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Title: Changes 7-13-12
Post by: Nekobaghira on July 13, 2012, 12:12:47 PM
Hello GGuildies,

Gonna make some changes to the site.  Mostly paring down and utilizing the stuff that gets used the most.  Repository isn't really necessary considering all that is available and Marvel has their own bio page, in addition Uncannyxmen.net is a fantastic resource site for everything Xmen.  Lebeau Library is gonna go away.  Working on places for it to live and have been given a great idea on where it can be, will keep you up to date on where it can be found.  Fact is fanfiction.net is a better vehicle for fanfic, easier to use as well.  I won't move the LL until its got a good home, and if what I plan won't work, it won't go anywhere.

I suspect these changes will take more time than I like but the plan is to get started.  If there is something you really want and are worried about transition, grab it now.  While I will give a heads up for when things disappear, better to get it now than kick yourself later for not doing so.  

Doesn't change the forum boards and those who like to post fanfic there still can, I'm just freeing up space on the server.  The artwork takes up allot of space and its one of the things I like the most, so to accommodate it and its potential growth and along with redundancy in other places, it makes sense to consolidate the information and make better use of what is actually available.  An example being, Gambit's history becoming a link to Marvel's site.  

I have no concrete time table.  

If you want to suggest stuff or perhaps have an idea to update the front/home page, let me know.  

Thanks.
Title: Re: Changes 7-13-12
Post by: Mitch on July 13, 2012, 02:07:16 PM
I think there are some things that should still be kept like the fanfiction in Lebeau Library. Also for Gambit Guild, the same goes for the pages such as Do You Know, Myths and Truths, Gambit Vs (as well as Interpersonal section), Concept Art and Uniforms.
Why I think that LeBeau Library shouldn't be deleted is because some of the fanfics are not uploaded on fanfiction.net and other fanfic sites.
Title: Re: Changes 7-13-12
Post by: Nekobaghira on July 13, 2012, 02:27:10 PM
I think there are some things that should still be kept like the fanfiction in Lebeau Library. Also for Gambit Guild, the same goes for the pages such as Do You Know, Myths and Truths, Gambit Vs (as well as Interpersonal section), Concept Art and Uniforms.
Why I think that LeBeau Library shouldn't be deleted is because some of the fanfics are not uploaded on fanfiction.net and other fanfic sites.

I'll put those things on the list.  I had forgot about those and I agree should be kept.  I'll think of the best place for that material.  

I also appreciate your views on the Lebeau Library too.  Once I get some ideas worked out, I'll post here and see what you think, as in if the solution is good enough.  I'm actually trying to find an easier way to deal with the Library. 

Thanks again Mitch.   :)
Title: Re: Changes 7-13-12
Post by: NicoPony on July 13, 2012, 11:48:13 PM
I support you no matter what you decide.  This site is your baby, after all.  There's some growing pains involved, but it'll all be for the best.

Title: Re: Changes 7-13-12
Post by: Nekobaghira on July 14, 2012, 06:03:37 AM
Thanks, I like the idea we've got planned for the LL - it is gonna be good, a better vehicle, easier to get too and reach more people.  And most likely new readers of older really well done stories.

The other changes are small ones but even little ones help.
Title: Re: Changes 7-13-12
Post by: Nevaratoiel on July 14, 2012, 06:50:24 AM
Hello GGuildies,

Gonna make some changes to the site.  Mostly paring down and utilizing the stuff that gets used the most.  Repository isn't really necessary considering all that is available and Marvel has their own bio page, in addition Uncannyxmen.net is a fantastic resource site for everything Xmen.  Lebeau Library is gonna go away.  Working on places for it to live and have been given a great idea on where it can be, will keep you up to date on where it can be found.  Fact is fanfiction.net is a better vehicle for fanfic, easier to use as well.  I won't move the LL until its got a good home, and if what I plan won't work, it won't go anywhere.

I suspect these changes will take more time than I like but the plan is to get started.  If there is something you really want and are worried about transition, grab it now.  While I will give a heads up for when things disappear, better to get it now than kick yourself later for not doing so. 

Doesn't change the forum boards and those who like to post fanfic there still can, I'm just freeing up space on the server.  The artwork takes up allot of space and its one of the things I like the most, so to accommodate it and its potential growth and along with redundancy in other places, it makes sense to consolidate the information and make better use of what is actually available.  An example being, Gambit's history becoming a link to Marvel's site. 

I have no concrete time table. 

If you want to suggest stuff or perhaps have an idea to update the front/home page, let me know. 

Thanks.

I read all of this and my first thought was; You're taking everything away! But then I decided, sometimes you have to get rid of things to make other things better. So, I'm all for change.

But, as you can see, I've highlighted two things, to which I have comments about.

1. The Repository: To be completely honest, the reason why I came to the Guild was because of this very same repository. Sure you can find this information everywhere... but not all together in one place! I think the repository needs to stay.

2. The Library: I agree with Mitch, the Library should be kept. It's the one place where one can find the old stories. But, as you said, you're going to find it a good home. I trust you completely on that.  ::)  ;)
Title: Re: Changes 7-13-12
Post by: Nekobaghira on July 14, 2012, 07:19:03 AM
I read all of this and my first thought was; You're taking everything away! But then I decided, sometimes you have to get rid of things to make other things better. So, I'm all for change.

Thanks, I appreciate that.  


1. The Repository: To be completely honest, the reason why I came to the Guild was because of this very same repository. Sure you can find this information everywhere... but not all together in one place! I think the repository needs to stay.

I'm only going to make small changes to the repository, it is saved though there is some changes coming to it.

2. The Library: I agree with Mitch, the Library should be kept. It's the one place where one can find the old stories. But, as you said, you're going to find it a good home. I trust you completely on that.  ::)  ;)

*chuckles* - you wound me woman!  Trust me, the plan for the LL is good.  It will also give it more readers, potentially new readers, and it will still be part of the GG.  It's the GG thats building the new home.  I don't want the stories lost but I do want them showcased in a natural place where people actually go to read.   If it all works out, it will have easier access, easier uploads, and those who love to read fanfic will have a ton more say in what stories can be included to the library.  And if the plan fails (which I highly doubt it will), then the LL will stay where it is.  
Title: Re: Changes 7-13-12
Post by: Nevaratoiel on July 15, 2012, 04:58:10 PM
I wound you?! *lol* I've been trying to help you since... I don't know how long! Gosh! You wound me woman! ;) I really wanted to help and I still do! (My fingers still itch to make a new design for the guild, with this lovely (existing) logo)

But seriously, I'm sure you'll make the best of it. :)
Title: Re: Changes 7-13-12
Post by: Nekobaghira on July 15, 2012, 06:40:19 PM
How about the redesign of the "home" page.  The opening one before clicking on stuff? ;D  Perhaps with some Clay Mann art?
Title: Re: Changes 7-13-12
Post by: Beej on July 16, 2012, 10:36:10 AM
I'm excited to see what you do to the place, Neko. Your plan for the library actually has me excited! It's been forever since I've read anything there and all this talking about relocating has got me looking forward to seeing it's new home and rereading old favorites again.

Court's Lediableblanc  also has a treasure trove of information. I don't know if everything here is covered there, but that's usually where I head for information (sorry!) so the Repository IMHO does seem like a good place to find extra space for the site.

Again... just *my* opinion.  ;)
Title: Re: Changes 7-13-12
Post by: Nevaratoiel on July 16, 2012, 01:03:20 PM
I had to look up the Clay Mann art and it's not half bad.... Well, half of it... ;)
Title: Re: Changes 7-13-12
Post by: NicoPony on July 16, 2012, 01:17:49 PM
Hey, Neva...could you make an icon/avatar in keeping with your proposed redesign that is 200x200 that we could use to represent the LeBeau Library? 
Title: Re: Changes 7-13-12
Post by: Nevaratoiel on July 16, 2012, 02:44:58 PM
With my proposed redesign? Hehehe. I could make you an avatar, but I have no proposed redesign. I got several no's on my request already. ;)

Lol!
Title: Re: Changes 7-13-12
Post by: Nekobaghira on July 16, 2012, 03:35:38 PM
The other design was interior art, I was thinking of the splash page on the front.  We've already talked about the interior design stuff.  ;)  And the issues with it and why I haven't done anything with it.   ;)

I still don't have photoshop.

Though with the library moving, it may be much easier for me to work with, since the new location completely rocks thus far for the LL.  While its a work in progress still, as we are waiting on people to get back to us, you can find some of the stories at http://www.fanfiction.net/community/Gambit_Guild_LeBeau_Library/101440/

Currently 68 stories already moved.  The collection should stay together since its in the community portion of the comics section.  The great side is the attention the older stories will get just by being on ff.net.  

Here is the current splash page I was hoping you'd want to redesign.  
Title: Re: Changes 7-13-12
Post by: pastella on July 16, 2012, 03:55:08 PM
Size for the splash page Neko?

I kinda have an idea...
Title: Re: Changes 7-13-12
Post by: Nekobaghira on July 16, 2012, 04:09:37 PM
Current one is 800 x 600.  It can be larger, I don't want it smaller than that though. 
Title: Re: Changes 7-13-12
Post by: pastella on July 16, 2012, 04:24:59 PM
Size is no problem, I work on photoshop. I think i will try to simulate the new font to make the words THE & GUILD for the home page using Clay Mann's art on the new series.

I'll make a suggestion the following days. Now that my arm has almost recovered from tendinitis, I need to create :D
Title: Re: Changes 7-13-12
Post by: Mitch on July 16, 2012, 05:32:47 PM
Hello GGuildies,

Gonna make some changes to the site.  Mostly paring down and utilizing the stuff that gets used the most.  Repository isn't really necessary considering all that is available and Marvel has their own bio page, in addition Uncannyxmen.net is a fantastic resource site for everything Xmen.  Lebeau Library is gonna go away.  Working on places for it to live and have been given a great idea on where it can be, will keep you up to date on where it can be found.  Fact is fanfiction.net is a better vehicle for fanfic, easier to use as well.  I won't move the LL until its got a good home, and if what I plan won't work, it won't go anywhere.

Doesn't change the forum boards and those who like to post fanfic there still can, I'm just freeing up space on the server.  The artwork takes up allot of space and its one of the things I like the most, so to accommodate it and its potential growth and along with redundancy in other places, it makes sense to consolidate the information and make better use of what is actually available.  An example being, Gambit's history becoming a link to Marvel's site.  

Thanks.

Great, this gave me a perfect time to panic and I am now working frantically to save every piece of fanfics in the LeBeau Library chapter by chapter.
Title: Re: Changes 7-13-12
Post by: NicoPony on July 16, 2012, 05:59:30 PM
Hi All,
I am looking for these writers:

Adrienne
Alexandra Nigro
Alicia McKenzie
Amanda Sichter
Ascian
Belle Bayard
Broadway
Cassandra Fraser
Cat Smith
CrystalWren
Diamonde
Dorell
Elena Zovatto
Em Snyder
Enyo
Ephiginia
Evaryn
Faith Barnett
Fred Garber
HF
Indigo
Irual
Iruku Tenshi
JB McDragon
Jacque Koh
Jenn
Jintain
K-Nice
KB
Karolina Phillips
Kaylee
Keith Chism
Keri Wilson
Key
LA
Lady Shalott
Leigh
Lomas
Lori McDonald
Loup Garou
Madelein Villerot-Taylor
Matt Nute
The Moment
Nicole Wagner
Northlight
Onyx
Painted Eyes
Patty
RV Bemis
Ratmist
Revel
Reverdy
Sandman
Sarah Watkins
Sascha
Sigel Phoenix
Souba
Spade
Starspirit
Steve Paul
Supersoul
Syvan Coyne
Theoren Marceaux
Vendetta419
Verin Haley
X-Treme
Xenokattz
Wingy

Are you one of the writers above, or do you know how I could get in contact with any of these writers?  If so, please PM me.  Your e-mail on the LeBeau Library is no longer a valid address.

We are making an attempt to reach out to all the authors whose stories we were unable to find on Fanfiction.net.  Here is our proposal:

    * Option 1: You can create an account for yourself under your pen-name, submit your story to fanfiction.net, and let us know so we can connect it to our C2 (LeBeau Library Community).  You will be in charge of managing your stories, as well as receiving all the reviews and praise you rightly deserve!
    * Option 2: You can allow us to submit your story, currently hosted on the LeBeau Library, under our site's penname: LeBeau Library.  We will handle the uploading, reformatting, and posting of your story, as well as adding it to the Library.  Any reviews received will come to the LeBeau Library account.
    * Option 3: Your story will be added to the Gambit Guild Forum on the Fanfiction Board.
    * Option 4: You can make the decision to have the story taken down entirely.  The story will no longer be hosted at the Library or on Fanfiction.net.

Good night and have a pleasant tomorrow.
Title: Re: Changes 7-13-12
Post by: Nekobaghira on July 16, 2012, 06:06:36 PM
Having a better vehicle for the stories is actually better for the story and writer.  The amount of feedback from here is nowhere near what a writer would get at ff.net.  

The library is moving is all, there is a better place for hosting that type of content.  In addition the older stories will get new attention.  And as Nicopony has already asked, we're looking for cooperation with allot of the writers.  It would appear to be allot of story abandonment.  

http://www.fanfiction.net/community/Gambit_Guild_LeBeau_Library/101440/

Title: Re: Changes 7-13-12
Post by: Nevaratoiel on July 16, 2012, 06:17:24 PM
I'll have a go at the splash page... :)
Title: Re: Changes 7-13-12
Post by: Nekobaghira on July 16, 2012, 06:26:28 PM
Looking forward to your ideas Pastella, and cool Neva, thanks.

I think the stories will at least get some new readers, get more reviews and its actually easier for those who write to use ff.net.  It's an easier system, and more say for those who enjoy fanfiction as to what gets included into the library.  There are allot of pluses of moving the Library to fanfiction.net.

Title: Re: Changes 7-13-12
Post by: winterwolfen on July 16, 2012, 07:29:15 PM
I do like the idea of gambit guild changing but as long as the gambit stories never disappear I'm fine with it, or else I have to collect them.

If this happens, I want to be informed.

But in a way I feel very sad the library is placed somewhere else, sure, ff is bigger and better, but GG is more gambit centered with a great commuinty, and a great meeting point for fans and fanfic authers, this can't be done in a same way on ff.net.

I know I'm a bit crancky, but most of my romy shipment comes from fanfic and therefore the library and the forum are the most importatnt places on this site.
If it's a question about explanding, I'm willing to be a sponsor to keep the library alive.

/winterwolfen :-)
Title: Re: Changes 7-13-12
Post by: Nekobaghira on July 16, 2012, 08:03:36 PM
The community is still Gambit Guild, as in it is handled by those here.  (I will back up the entire library anyway.)  And the library lives, its just going to live where it gets more attention, easy submissions, more say in whats included in the library.  The link will be here and will direct to the community that GG has created at ff.net.  GG will get all the reviews or comments for those without emails and handle anything else that needs to be dealt with as an owner of the community that we've created.  It's not moving to be abandoned, its being moved for more attention and we are still running it from here.  It will still be monitored by those here.  I do think the love and enjoyment you get out of the LL can be shared by a much larger group of people than what this community has, and I want those writers to get the praise they so deserve for putting together really good stories to read. 

I don't know what to say to help ease your minds.  I really do think we're doing what is best for the library.  And I swear, promise, do a blood pact if needed the entire library will be backed up and archived.