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Gambit => Gambit => Topic started by: Nekobaghira on July 09, 2015, 10:01:51 PM
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Gambit's Film
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/15/gambit-exclusive-rupert-wyatt
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http://comicbook.com/2015/07/10/who-does-channing-tatum-want-to-play-rogue-in-a-gambit-movie-/
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I hope Rogue isn't in it. Maybe a cameo to set up him joining the X-Men, but I don't want her to be a big part of the movie.
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I think the movie should be about Gambit. No need for all sorts of extras. Set him up and let the rest follow if needed. I think he has more than enough material in his background to do allot.
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http://www.cinemablend.com/new/How-Taylor-Kitsch-Feels-About-Channing-Tatum-Playing-Gambit-72478.html
Kitsch revealed to The Daily Beast that he didn’t audition for Gambit again before Channing was cast, but believes the Magic Mike XXL star will be a worthy successor. He said:
Um…no, I didn’t have a go. Ever since we finished the movie, it’s never really been an option. But no, I wish [Channing] nothing but the best. It was a fun character to play, and I learned a lot working with Hugh [Jackman] and had an amazing time in Australia. I’m sure they’re doing their own thing with it, and I’m sure Channing will be great.
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http://entertainthis.usatoday.com/2015/07/02/channing-tatum-gambit/
I've said this before and I'll say again. This actor's enthusiasm is amazing and infectious. LOL
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I don't hate the guy but to be honest Tatum will be better I believe.
That's the second time Kitsch was asked about this.
I never personally enjoyed watching his performance as Gambit, as I felt it wasn't Gambit I was watching.
Good luck in future work but it's all on Tatum now.
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Kitsch didn't get a chance...
As much as I dislike Tatum being Gambit, I'll have to accept it... :(
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Kitsch did not play Gambit or Remy le Beau in Origins, he played Tim Riggins with a different name
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I'm disinclined to agree...
(Or in other words... I disagree... ;))
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I'm disinclined to agree...
(Or in other words... I disagree... ;))
lol shocker :P
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I hope Rogue isn't in it. Maybe a cameo to set up him joining the X-Men, but I don't want her to be a big part of the movie.
Even if she was in it, it wouldn't be a 'big' part. It is a movie about gambit after all. But have no fear, I know for absolute certainty that she will not be in it. Because I would like that and the movie people always do the exact opposite of whatever I want. You're welcome. ;)
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Well anya, they don't ever do what I want in a film either. I don't want Rogue to appear in this film... :P
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I kinda feel bad for Kitsch because let's face it he didn't get much to work with. It wasn't entirely his fault. He tried his best and nailed the bo staff and card training, and could pull off the charming scoundrel act, but the script sucked.
The thing that Tatum has against Kitsch is that he knows and loves the character, whereas Kitsch had only ever just heard of Gambit. So you had a guy that can act and looks the part but didn't know the character, versus a guy who isn't a great actor and doesn't look the part but knows the character inside out. It's a tough call.
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It wasn't entirely Kitsch's fault but I do not want to see his Gambit again. If Tatum wasn't casted then I would prefer to reboot Gambit with a new actor. Kitsch was a joke in Origins
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I like Taylor Kitsch, he had the right look for a younger Gambit and had some good scenes, but I don't think the portrayal convinced me that he'd work in a solo film, whereas as Channing is a little more robust and could go toe-to-toe in a fight with a Wolverine or a Sabretooth, where Taylor looked like a mismatch in those scenes. A rebooted Gambit sets him free from the 1970s/80s timeline trap. A present day Gambit has a brighter future.
I have no idea where this Gambit solo is headed. I'm expecting that they'll change a lot of his origin story, it may not have Guilds, it may be something completely fresh. I would like the ending to have a connection to the X-Men, maybe have someone like Rogue or Wolverine pop up and recruit him, or maybe have Cable convince him to join X-Force.
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http://youtu.be/q3dyN4YOfIk (http://youtu.be/q3dyN4YOfIk)
Tatum at ComicCon, wearing a Gambit T-shirt, takes a photo of the entire X-men cast on stage. :D
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http://youtu.be/q3dyN4YOfIk (http://youtu.be/q3dyN4YOfIk)
Tatum at ComicCon, wearing a Gambit T-shirt, takes a photo of the entire X-men cast on stage. :D
woulda been cool if he got to talk and say something different about the movie
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That was cool. Stan Lee is funny. Was glad to see Tatum in the T-shirt too. Nice.
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Images from another fan at the con.
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Another pic
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The Selfie that Stan Lee wanted.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/sdcc-stan-lee-foxs-x-men-take-greatest-superhero-selfie-ever
And information about the panel for Fox
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/sdcc-fox-presents-deadpool-fantastic-four-x-men-apocalypse
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I want that T-shirt Channings wearing! :)
His hairs slightly longer and shaven again at the sides.
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Thanks for showing the logo :) from a distance I thought it looked similar to a street sign but close up I can see it's a card (which makes more sense) ;D
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No problem with the image. Funny part is ... years ago those colors were the splash page for this site. I'm liking the image. It's definitely a back of a card. ;)
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I want that T-shirt Channings wearing! :)
His hairs slightly longer and shaven again at the sides.
i have it :D also...headgaurd/sock confirmed
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Arrgghh no head sock! See I told you guys the movies always do the opposite of what I like! :o
I'm also not feeling the title logo. It's kinda too complicated for a logo and especially next to all the other logo it just looks overly fussy.
That shirt was cute, though. Looks like something from welovefine.
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It would be nice to see some colour on the logo, like purple, similar to James Asmis design. :gambit:
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Great to see it starting to be promoted beyond Tatum. I too wish no head sock but I like the enthusiasm. The card logo is fine with me. It looks beat up and rough which is sort of what I think of Gambit's past.
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I think the headsock will work better than we think in live action...
What supporting characters do we want to see in this movie? Let's assume its almost completely separated from the X-Men universe so far (because I think they've said as much). What characters from Gambit's background and rogues gallery would you most like to see? Who would work well on the big screen, be engaging enough to be part of the story without dominating it with narrative to set them in place?
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I think the headsock will work better than we think in live action...
What supporting characters do we want to see in this movie? Let's assume its almost completely separated from the X-Men universe so far (because I think they've said as much). What characters from Gambit's background and rogues gallery would you most like to see? Who would work well on the big screen, be engaging enough to be part of the story without dominating it with narrative to set them in place?
Jean Luc, Lapin, Henri, Mercy, Bella, Tante as his support, Villians wise, Sinister , the entire Maruders...all of then, Julien and the Tithe Collector instead of working for Candra he works for Sinister
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My only wish is Sinister as the Villain.
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Jean Luc, Lapin, Henri, Mercy, Bella, Tante as his support, Villians wise, Sinister , the entire Maruders...all of then, Julien and the Tithe Collector instead of working for Candra he works for Sinister
I love Luc and Bella, but Henri, Lapin and Mercy? Kinda boring, no? I guess they'd be fine in passing but as possible focus points in a movie about super powered hero? I guess Tante could be interesting enough... I think I'd embrace the idea of Joelle or even Courier. I think Jessica Biel could pull Joelle off well...
But we still don't know exactly where the movie takes place... Exclusively in NOLA, just starting there and ending up in a bigger city, out of the country.... Want more information.
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I hope Tithe Collector will appear too. Gambit just entirely blow up him!
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LOL
Ryan Reynolds twitter:
It wasn't until I got home, I realized my keys, wallet and kidney was missing. #Gambit. #deadpool
1:02 AM - 13 Jul 2015
He posted it with this photo
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I love Luc and Bella, but Henri, Lapin and Mercy? Kinda boring, no? I guess they'd be fine in passing but as possible focus points in a movie about super powered hero? I guess Tante could be interesting enough... I think I'd embrace the idea of Joelle or even Courier. I think Jessica Biel could pull Joelle off well...
But we still don't know exactly where the movie takes place... Exclusively in NOLA, just starting there and ending up in a bigger city, out of the country.... Want more information.
Lapin is a good comedic relief character much like Courier who id like to see also played by Misha Colins, and id like to see them adapt some elements from the Titheing like Henri's death and Juliens resurrection, or show him with Remy in Paris
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I think I'd we're open to the Tithe then we got have Cassandra in it. But I guess she'd be pretty domineering in terms of development, unless Fox is going to use the Marvel route and have a "villain of the movie' type deal. Used once and then on to the next.
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I think it would almost be better to go the GOTG route and not put a big focus on his backstory. Show the Guild for the first ten-fifteen minutes, then snap to present day with shenanigans of some sort happening and then the rest of the movie can be like Ocean's Eleven where he's trying to pull off a heist. Maybe an X-Men character tries to stop him or joins in when they realize the stakes are a bit bigger than they previously thought.
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I think I'd we're open to the Tithe then we got have Cassandra in it. But I guess she'd be pretty domineering in terms of development, unless Fox is going to use the Marvel route and have a "villain of the movie' type deal. Used once and then on to the next.
Cassandra? do you mean Candra
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I think it would almost be better to go the GOTG route and not put a big focus on his backstory. Show the Guild for the first ten-fifteen minutes, then snap to present day with shenanigans of some sort happening and then the rest of the movie can be like Ocean's Eleven where he's trying to pull off a heist. Maybe an X-Men character tries to stop him or joins in when they realize the stakes are a bit bigger than they previously thought.
Gambits past being taken by the Guild and falling for bella could all be told in the credits or through V/O and open with the wedding and it going to hell real quick,
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;D I love Ryan Reynalds, his passion and support for Deadpool has been amazing. I'm sure he'll show the same support for the Gambit film. I know Tatum is going to do the exact same thing.
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Singer just posted a pic of him and Channing Tatum. Caption says "Always wanted to work with this guy."
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Gambits past being taken by the Guild and falling for bella could all be told in the credits or through V/O and open with the wedding and it going to hell real quick,
Exactly. Then, after that, it's present day and shenanigans are happening. We know that the script is described as being "fun" and while I would love to see Mr. Sinister on screen, he isn't "fun" and I think Gambit would really benefit from not touching the superhero vs. supervillain stuff and staying grounded. Heist movies are super fun.
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Yeah, wasn't the rumor that singer wanted Tatum for x3 (before he left and the script was completely changed...boo!)
Agree that the guild stuff should be smaller flasbacks and stick more to the present. Would love sinister to be the villian and to be a sort of anti-Xavier. Seemingly kind, English telepath/doctor who wants to 'help' but turns out to be a total psycho instead. Darn, now that I've written thT
at it won't happen... :D
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Exactly. Then, after that, it's present day and shenanigans are happening. We know that the script is described as being "fun" and while I would love to see Mr. Sinister on screen, he isn't "fun" and I think Gambit would really benefit from not touching the superhero vs. supervillain stuff and staying grounded. Heist movies are super fun.
Fun rumour was from unknown actor whom I do not trust at all.
So far nothing indicates that script is fun. Even Gambit logo has blood on it.
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Rumor was that it was some WWE guy in X3.
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Tatum auditioned for Gambit in X-men 3 but because of the script change they took Gambit out.
Tatum then was approached for Gambit again in X-men Origins Wolverine but was unable to do so because he was tied to G.I.Joe contract and couldn't get out.
3rd time lucky for Tatum. I feel like this guy was meant to play Gambit and I can't wait to see his take on him.
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I think the right beat for a Gambit film would be a generally fun film with a dark undertone as that is ultimately how I view the character. On the surface Gambit is seemingly a care free rogue in the vein of say a Jack Sparrow but underneath it all is the dark secret he is hiding. I would say being able to balance the two is what will make or break the film IMO.
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Cassandra? do you mean Candra
Yes, my bad, Candra.
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I think the right beat for a Gambit film would be a generally fun film with a dark undertone as that is ultimately how I view the character. On the surface Gambit is seemingly a care free rogue in the vein of say a Jack Sparrow but underneath it all is the dark secret he is hiding. I would say being able to balance the two is what will make or break the film IMO.
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I think the film should definitely not be too dark. Gambit is a fun loving, funny, free spirit, and making this film too dark would probably make it too heavy. Gambit has no problems with making fun of himself and can cover up many screw ups with comic relief.
The headsock is still a big no-no for me. It's just... I don't know... Wrong!
No problem with the image. Funny part is ... years ago those colors were the splash page for this site. I'm liking the image. It's definitely a back of a card. ;)
If we can get a better resolution of the logo, I could make a nice new splash page :) It's a cool logo.
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If we can get a better resolution of the logo, I could make a nice new splash page :) It's a cool logo.
Until more promotional material comes out, it make take a short bit to get a better resolution of that logo. :) I'll keep looking.
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Am I the only one who loves the head sock? ;D I think it's great on him.
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I think the head sock is just old. And after reading the Asmus/Mann Gambit solo and Gambit doing his thing without the head sock. It's just preferred now. While its a classic look for him to have the head sock. An updated look is most welcome.
And he didn't wear one in ANXF either and I thought he looked great. Again the art by CdG really made Gambit look great without the head sock.
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I don't mind the head sock. I think Mann drew it in that one issue wonderfully. It looks alright when his hair doesn't look stiff.
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I hope head sock will have at least little cameo.
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I think the one he had in X-Treme X-Men would translate into film well. The one that just covers the back of his head but doesn't cover his forehead.
(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/26147/1332392-490408_gamb__13_.jpg)
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I hope head sock will have at least little cameo.
A little cameo is fine with me :)
@ jellyfish
That's a look I dig... But I'm also a fan of the long hair. (I have thing for long-ish hair)
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I would be good with the XXM version of the head piece.
Channing Tatum is a nice guy. He helped Stan Lee after the picture was taken.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=122848
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He's a potato head!
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I would be good with the XXM version of the head piece.
Channing Tatum is a nice guy. He helped Stan Lee after the picture was taken.
hxxp: www. comicbookmovie. com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=122848
Also did a bit of a Gambit accent while saying hello to the crowd. Link you say? Of course!
https://youtu.be/NcUOY0GMYMo?t=2m1s
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Thanks AnimatedPhil. There is some running joke about not being the guy wearing the shirt of .... the clip is for a band. But it applies to anything.
https://youtu.be/GgFcl3BrJpU
Of course I'm teasing but it was fun seeing Tatum in a Gambit shirt.
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I would be good with the XXM version of the head piece.
Channing Tatum is a nice guy. He helped Stan Lee after the picture was taken.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=122848
I really respect such things
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English is not my native language so I would never understand Tatum words when he was doing his accent. But sometimes it was hard for me to undestand Gambit from XTAS too)
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Gambit for XTAS - was easier to understand when not referencing himself in third person. And I think Potter over acted with accent as well. Yeah, I know, blasphemy.
And even though English isn't your primary language there are those whose language it is and couldn't understand him. Any number of things, the register of voice too low, the recording too low, using poor wording to get the idea across.
Not sure how many retakes was available in the 90's either. The 90's rejuvenated the animated cartoon. In the 80's it was done as cheaply as possible and its noticeable. More flat art as opposed to moving art.
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I understand Tatum fine when he is doing interviews so I hope that in movie without translation I will understand his accent too)
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IMO - the accent should be light. However, with the film being set in New Orleans - Tatum has to do the accent well enough to be understood and not sound like he's got marbles in his mouth. It's probably why he's looking so hard for a person to coach him. He wants it right for the area and I appreciate that as long as all of us can understand him, it will be fine.
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hes going too southern hillbilly or Deliverance with it instead of French Cajun, in the comics he keeps getting mistaken for French or he used to because of his accent
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The thing about the accent is that does he want to sound like the comics/TAS, or does he want to be accurate? Someone with a Cajun accent isn't going to be mistaken for European French. He shouldn't have a heavy Cajun accent--he grew up in New Orleans, which has its own accent.
I hate the headsock, but don't mind the XXM look.
CT's accent shouldn't overshadow his performance.
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CT's accent shouldn't overshadow his performance.
agree, add to the character not detract from. ;)
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hes going too southern hillbilly or Deliverance with it instead of French Cajun, in the comics he keeps getting mistaken for French or he used to because of his accent
What's funny is. I never heard a true cajun accent until I was in college, so I went almost 20 years without knowing and thinking that XTAS Gambit was how all cajuns spoke. lol.
But I think that if he keeps a good southern twang with a mix of french in there, it will be good for a mass audience. As long as it stays consistent throughout.
But I do agree that it shouldn't overshadow his performance. I'm excited for each little step we get.
I'm thinking costume reveal has to be the next step.
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I'd put my money on casting news before a costume reveal.
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I'd put my money on casting news before a costume reveal.
Well with 2 and half months to go until shooting I think concept art is gonna start creeping up from somewhere pretty soon, cause they may already have their cast figured out and we wont know more until some photos from the shoot shows up
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http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2015/07/channing-tatum-helps-stan-lee-off-stage-melts-internets-heart/
While nothing new ... good pic of Chan Tatum.
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full video of this shows Stan not so greatful for his help, lol he waves his hand away, im fine im fine lol
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Well, that is because he's a proud old man. They do that, whether they want the help or not. ;)
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I agree, casting news will come first before we see an official image of Gambit.
But I'm sure Tatum will tease us with little things before hand. Well I hope so :)
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all these lovely dressed people and Tatum is like yup....im Gambit
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all these lovely dressed people and Tatum is like yup....im Gambit
LOL seriously.
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Lol yep that's Gambit right there ;D doing his own thing :gambit:
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The outlet has speculated that Tatum flying down to Comic Con just to take one selfie would not make sense. But there are possibilities that he could have flown down from some other location to San Diego. The location maybe could be a place somewhere in Canada.
Bryan Singer directed “X-Men: Apocalypse” has been shooting in Canada for quite some time now. Singer was to fly directly to San Diego from Canada to promote “X-Men: Days of Future Past- Rogue Cut” while the cast that was also flying with him was to be a surprise. The cast members of the movie including Michael Fassbender, James McAvoy, Jennifer Lawrence, Nicholas Hoult, Oscar Isaac, Olivia Munn amongst others surprised everyone with their presence when they joined Singer on stage. Since the cast has also been shooting for the movie in Canada, chances are even they flew in from the same location.
What proved to be a bigger surprise when Tatum joined the cast and others moments before the selfie was taken. Flying in just to take a random selfie seems a bit odd but what if he actually flew in with the cast from Canada?
http://www.movienewsguide.com/x-men-apocalypse-movie-update-channing-tatum-hints-gambit-cameo/74846
I do not know. I just think that Tatum wanted to make some hype around Gambit. His shirt is a good example of it.
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people really overthink things and speculate sometimes but it makes headlines and creates discussion, weather or not he is in Poccy Lips who cares, Gambit 2016 wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Flying in to take selfie that will circulated all over the Internet and start some early buzz for his movie, from one of the pop culture events of the year is actually plenty good reason to fly to San Diego. ;D I would not be against an after credits scene, though. Gambit would be next movie after apocalypse.
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Tatum had two reasons to be at San Diego Comic Con. The hateful Eight which is directed by Quentin Tarrentino was having a talk and of course X-men.
He would have went to show support for both and of course gain support and promotion for Gambit.
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It's all about promotion and you can't start soon enough...
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http://www.showbiz411.com/2015/07/21/marvel-gambit-movie-with-channing-tatum-looks-a-go-for-october-start-date
Based on this casting call, gonna guess thieves guild oriented.
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A lot of that seems super vague. Some of these could be members of the Guild, but some could also be people who help Gambit out with a heist. Like The Italian Job.
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Sure, its vague but ... its fun to wonder a little about it. If its like the Italian Job, I hope its better than that film. :)
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just change the first 4 names to Nathaniel, Bella, Julien (or maybe he's Nash), Jean Luc, so guilds then, sweet
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Awesome! I really hope Louis is Sinister.
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just change the first 4 names to Nathaniel, Bella, Julien (or maybe he's Nash), Jean Luc, so guilds then, sweet
Well I think you can do that. The whole production seems to be under a guise. I doubt they are using the real names for casting call. Comic fans are too knowledgeable and savy, we'd be able to deduce the whole plot by just knowing who's involved.
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Yes, I immediately thought Sinister (as Essex) and then Belladonna. Very cool. Tatum needs to work on his accent fast though, that line he gave us at Comic Con was dismal.
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Bah, my streak continues... Headsock, guild heavy and if that kid storm girl is kid storm, then movie set in the seventies...
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Maybe girl is kid Marrow.
I doubt it will be in 70's or prequel. I think it will be after Apocalypse in 90's or in nowadays.
I hope it will be with Deadpool in nowadays.
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Maybe girl is kid Marrow.
I doubt it will be in 70's or prequel. I think it will be after Apocalypse in 90's or in nowadays.
I hope it will be with Deadpool in nowadays.
It'll only be set in the 90s if the movie following Apocalypse is. Fox wants a connected movie universe and imo wouldnt just let Tatum's Gambit to exist on its own island seperated from the rest. I suspect it'll be linked to the current cast or part of a re-reboot with the younger of the last cast ala Paquin, Ashmore, Cudmore, Page etc. (respectively; Rogue, Iceman, Colossus, Kitty). Just my vision of their options.
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I think the same. Cudmore is not Colossus anymore so I think Rogue, Iceman and others would be recasted too.
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The only character that won't be recast is Wade Wilson. Because Ryan Reynolds was perfect for the part of Deadpool, they just f***ed it up horrifically. I think everyone else will be recast.
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With casting sides are showing up, it may even be possible that they already have their cast or most of it, or they have the main cast picked, and just need some some side characters to be cast.
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just change the first 4 names to Nathaniel, Bella, Julien (or maybe he's Nash), Jean Luc, so guilds then, sweet
That is exactly what I thought. I'm thinking it could be a bit origin, bit heist movie, maybe have some Sinister in there. Possibly set up the Massacre. Should be interesting.
I am glad they are going with the Guild stuff. It truly separates Gambit from the typical hero and gives these audiences who don't know the character, something unique to take away.
Headsock, guilds, possible Sinister. Yeah. I'm digging this.
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I never thought Sinister when I read Louis ( Louis– Male, any ethnicity, 40s-50s. Elegant and intelligent. An appealing entrepreneur with an unexpected
dark side and or Fritz– Male, any ethnicity, 40s – 50s. A professional thief. Charismatic con-artist. Warm hearted but untrustworthy) I read it and thought both could be Jean-Luc LeBeau depending on how they go with the character. But I was wondering if it could be Marius Boudreaux instead of Sinister. Just a thought
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I didn't think Sinister either - I also gravitated to Jean-Luc for the Louis part. Too early to tell.
I had to share this and Don - don't bust on me. This tumblr is making moola with calendars and books by pairing these two things together. ;) Oddly enough my friend, I am not alone in my like.
http://deshommesetdeschatons.tumblr.com/
Channing Tatum aka Gambit - and ...... kitten!
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I never thought Sinister when I read Louis ( Louis– Male, any ethnicity, 40s-50s. Elegant and intelligent. An appealing entrepreneur with an unexpected
dark side and or Fritz– Male, any ethnicity, 40s – 50s. A professional thief. Charismatic con-artist. Warm hearted but untrustworthy) I read it and thought both could be Jean-Luc LeBeau depending on how they go with the character. But I was wondering if it could be Marius Boudreaux instead of Sinister. Just a thought
My first reading was possible Jean Luc for both. But the more I read over it. I don't know if it's my own personal bia because Sinister is my favorite villain, but I think of the Gambit Weapon X Origin story where young Remy does a job for the Guild which Sinister hired them for. I think it's just a great plot twist too. Sinister & Gambit have such untapped story potential.
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I hope it will be Sinister. Most X fans would say that Sinister must be in Gambit movie.
No Rogue or X-Men in it - OK, but Sinister must have cameo in it, even if he will appear just as Essex.
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http://deshommesetdeschatons.tumblr.com/
Channing Tatum aka Gambit - and ...... kitten!
Lol, those cats appeal to me more than most of the men... ;D
I'm not gonna speculate on the characters, I really wouldn't know. We just have to be patient... Unfortunately...
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I do not know if it is legit, but it looks like the estimated budget for Gambit is $155million. I can't post a pic so I will post link
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=472819&page=32
Earlier producers told that this movie do not need to be big so I doubt it is true. What do you think?
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Here is the image from that link - thanks Purple.
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Warren Drummond has been added to the crew, working in the Art Department on the storyboard.
Excited to see this production grow
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On other forums there are speculation that Wolfgang (– Male, authentic French, 40s. A French criminal. Must speak fluent French) may be fantomex >:(
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On other forums there are speculation that Wolfgang (– Male, authentic French, 40s. A French criminal. Must speak fluent French) may be fantomex >:(
That's not nice--I just ate lunch.
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Who is fantomex?
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http://marvel.com/universe/Fantomex
He's a french thief.
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http://marvel.com/universe/Fantomex
He's a french thief.
He's not really thief though, he is Weapon 13 from the Weapon plus program and i seriously doubt he will be appearing in the film, Gambit is from the french quarter , his cajun accen gets him mistaken for french. so it could be someone from NO, or he could be someone who hires Remy to steal a necklace from a woman by the name Genevieve Darcenaux?
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so it could be someone from NO, or he could be someone who hires Remy to steal a necklace from a woman by the name Genevieve Darcenaux?
Oh, I would love it so much! My favourite story!
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http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/tatums-gambit-production-kicks-off-in-october-with-hefty-budget ......preety much what we know already casting list and budget, thats a huge budget
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I really hope that budgets wrong. That's a really big budget for a 'smaller' movie. Even Antman 'only' had a 130 budget. And that's from Marvel, whose had a great track record with solos and huge word of mouth reputation.
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My guess is that they've changed their mind and are going big with it to try and position Gambit as one of the main movie universe character, now that Jackman and Lawrence's times are coming to an end. Probably Gambit and Deadpool.
In some ways great because more Gambit and more exposure for the character. Cool. In other ways though, more chance to screw it up with all the Fox suits involved. I'm just trying not to think about it. In my head we're getting a Gambit film and that's it. I'll cross any other bridge that comes along when we get to it.
Edit: read the article after I posted that, just what I was saying!
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keep in mind that budget will include Marketing and they will market the s*** out of Gambit, its alos looking good that they are waiting till October to film, this gives them lots of time in pre production to work out the kinks
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keep in mind that budget will include Marketing and they will market the s*** out of Gambit, its alos looking good that they are waiting till October to film, this gives them lots of time in pre production to work out the kinks
I wonder what that last $309 are for... A cheese platter, perhaps?
I love the fact that they making sure at least 30 million will be going to Louisianian employees. He'll probably make a quarter of the budget back in that tri-state area alone. Like the angle of authenticity he's playing.
Also annoys me that most of this movie may be in the swamp...
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It will be good for the economy too, I don't believe NO has fully recovered from Katrina.
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I wouldn't say New Orleans hasn't fully recovered from Katrina, but it certainly isn't what it was pre-Katrina. Still a great place to visit though.
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I wouldn't say New Orleans hasn't fully recovered from Katrina, but it certainly isn't what it was pre-Katrina. Still a great place to visit though.
That is what I meant. :)
I know its a great place to visit, I've been there. I'm mean that it will be great for the economy. ;)
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Well....there may be a issue with the movie...A MAJOR ONE IF ITS TRUE
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/466381-channing-tatum-exits-x-men-spinoff-gambit
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Well, if true ... not good as in - no film. But Tatum has lobbied so hard and for so long that all I can think is creative differences with others on the project. But I think for myself I need another source. Guess we'll see.
http://comicsalliance.com/channing-tatum-has-left-the-gambit-solo-movie/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
Still, need more.
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I hear ya Neko, unless we get a rep from Tatum or Fox I aint gonna believe it, even more so with casting sides, among other things being leaked out over the last few days
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http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/channing-tatum-reportedly-planning-to-leave-gambit another source
seems "legit" un-named source me hole
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exactly and I would think tatum would say something before sites started jumping on it, but he is in the amazon right now so it could be a lie
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From what I read, they said with his two last big movies, Fox wanted to cut the budget nearly in half from the 150 and he would rather direct his own film if that were the case. Apparently it's due to the budget now.
Also, the movie is still going to move forward regardless of Tatum or not.
Josh Holloway anyone? haha.
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I have never heard an actor leave due to a budget before, it all seems fishy. Cause with production only being 75 days he could easily do both after Gambit is put in post production, many actors have done movies back to back so its not uncommon
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I have never heard an actor leave due to a budget before, it all seems fishy. Cause with production only being 75 days he could easily do both after Gambit is put in post production, many actors have done movies back to back so its not uncommon
I hear you. It sounds like a game of hardball to me. I'm just hoping somewhere in the Amazon, Channing is saying, "What's this now?" lol.
But if he is out. Then maybe Gaspard Ulliel?
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I hear you. It sounds like a game of hardball to me. I'm just hoping somewhere in the Amazon Cahnning is saying, "What's this now?" lol.
But if he is out. Then maybe Gaspard Ulliel?
Oh I hope to god, he responds to this madness. Cause SDCC wasnt even a month ago and he was all so hung go about it and even doing interviews talking about it, plus with the budget being release, and casting call it seems to me that someone may have over-read something and took it as "he is leaving.." And knowing the "fangirls" they might be wanting to get whats his face who played Remy in Origins
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Someone really needs to respond to this announcement.
People are going nuts!
What ever little faith people had in the production, whether it was for Gambit or Tatum, they're going to lose it real quick :-[
Talk about a spanner in the works >:(
I hope this is is not true and just some made up gossip or if it's about the budget, slash if needed. I hope Tatum fights his corner for this film as I've seen how passionate he is for this character.
At first I thought this may have been a similar case to Ryan fighting against Fox for Deadpool.
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Someone really needs to respond to this announcement.
People are going nuts!
What ever little faith people had in the production, whether it was for Gambit or Tatum, they're going to lose it real quick :-[
Talk about a spanner in the works >:(
I hope this is is not true and just some made up gossip or if it's about the budget, slash if needed. I hope Tatum fights his corner for this film as I've seen how passionate he is for this character.
At first I thought this may have been a similar case to Ryan fighting against Fox for Deadpool.
The one positive thing about this is the fact that soooo many people are talking about it. And a huge majority still wanting a Gambit film. Even people asking who would make a better Gambit. So the demand for the Cajun is in.
The bad news is that, think of what you will of Tatum, he loves the character and I can't think of anyone who would try their best as much as him. I hope he tweets when he gets back from the jungle, "Everyone can relax. Gambit has returned."
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Oh that would be a sight to see, but yes someone needs to set the record straight
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I hope it is not true(
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Fingers crossed it's not true, this was not the news I wanted to wake up to :'(
I'm actually hurt by this, my only hope is this will not be pushed back another year.
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Fingers crossed it's not true, this was not the news I wanted to wake up to :'(
I'm actually hurt by this, my only hope is this will not be pushed back another year.
Your telling me, its truly the only movie I would have go to see in the theater
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Okay, the original article that started all this.
http://www.thewrap.com/channing-tatum-superhero-movie-gambit-in-jeopardy-as-deal-unravels-exclusive/
Speculation is all we've got no matter how many places find a way to retell this story. Until Fox, and Tatum respond or state something, all we've got is a story running amok.
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I have never heard an actor leave due to a budget before, it all seems fishy. Cause with production only being 75 days he could easily do both after Gambit is put in post production, many actors have done movies back to back so its not uncommon
How many actor's are an active producer of the film they are in? A cut to the budget effects him and his company. Most of the time an actor is also producing, its because of the studio. Typically its a smaller studio, which gives the actor a lot of leverage. Not the case. This is a juggernaut in the form of Fox. Negotiations can be tricky because in the end, they don't really need him if push comes to shove... I personally don't want to lose Tatum.
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Already went to twitter and asked him to not drop Gambit off! XD
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I hope Tatum would stay. He deserves to be Gambit.
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yeah, me too! If it wasn't for him, nothing would show up... hope it ends well. People also pointed for Affleck leaving BvS, and also there was that HUGE Spiderman talk. And big sites where all about Asa Butterfield as a closed deal.
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His name has been removed from IMDB Gambit 2016.
Fingers crossed we get an up date about this soon.
If Tatum is no longer on board, how the hell will they make this film work?
Brining back Kitsch would be a horrible choice and let's be honest a step backwards. Tatums star pull has gone if he does leave.
If they bring in a fresh new face, it will be a bigger gamble.
It's sadly a waiting game now. It's such a shame as pre-production was going so well but actors dropping out can happen. My only hope is we still get a Gambit film.
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Tatum leaving the role does increase the risk or at least the perception of more risk moving on without him. I am hoping that him leaving or the possibility of leaving the role is just him playing hardball in order to make a better movie. I would like to see a Gambit movie, and he seemed so eagered to play the role.
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It's back up on IMDB. Over on those message boards and on tumblr people are celebrating and posting unknowns and has-beens for Remy. It kills me.
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Tatum was always polarizing for the role. As much as Gambit himself. I'll wait to see Fox gives the details.
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Brett White's open letter to Tatum:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/in-your-face-jam-in-your-face-jam-an-open-letter-to-channing-tatum
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thats hilarious the way he keeps changing his name
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thats hilarious the way he keeps changing his name
Exactly what I was thinking. haha.
I'm thinking it's going to all work out. I think this may really just be a way to see how much interest there is int eh film with this. And it lasted 15+ hours of news cycle. Trending #1 worldwide on twitter and Facebook. I think Fox has to give in to whatever he wants.
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There is the rumor that this was generated to hide FF's new film stuff, can't recall where I read that but I'm sure its one of the links in this thread. LOL
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Channing were born to play Gambit was my favourite part.
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It's always like this. Some site posts something and other sites just copy it without even researching it further. I'm not believing any of it until we hear it directly from an official source.
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There is the rumor that this was generated to hide FF's new film stuff, can't recall where I read that but I'm sure its one of the links in this thread. LOL
well all press is good press, people are talking about this, either way its not the end of the world, itll be made
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well all press is good press, people are talking about this, either way its not the end of the world, it'll be made
I hope that it will .... I agree with the press ... and it could be to keep the film top of mind. Its like testing the water as it were .. in general.
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i just can't see Channing Tatum dropping out of Gambit?!?
After watching the interviews I saw of him, talking about Gambit with so much passion and love for the character. Making sure they take there time with it and not to rush making the film. Even his appearance at comic con to promote the film shows him pushing the film out there.
He wouldn't just quit so easily because of a small disagreement.
What I would like to see him to do on social media, is to debunk these rumours with something of a Gambit tease.
I don't know, something like Ryan Reynolds dressed as Deadpool in front of Gambit, facing the camera and we can see the back of Gambits trench coat and head sock, holding cards in one hand maybe ;D
something to calm the situation and show support for Gambit. Let's be honest if everything goes well, these two characters will eventually meet down the line.
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Yeah, I'm not sure I'm really buying him dropping out of Gambit, he was (from what I gather) one of the driving forces in getting the movie started. Plus this is a role that he could really sink his teeth into in order to take his acting skills to a more serious level. Gambit character has enough gravitas that it's a nice step up from the lighter stuff he's been involved in with. It's a good progression. Oh and he also stands to make a large quantity of cashola. My guess is that maybe he's clashing with people on certain elements of the story, character or any such details and that's it. I really think he could pull off a good gambit despite maybe not 'resembling' Remy enough, people are just spoiled because Hugh Jackman is basically a totally spot on wolverine look alike. One thing I really like about Tatum is that he has that athletic ability that you know Remy exudes naturally
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time for a tinfoil hat moment, What if this is a distraction not from FF stuff previously mentioned but to hide the fact he is going to appear in Apocalypse and he's filming scenes now, what a big surprise that would be him showing up no one knowing. Unlike Antman blowing its Falcon surprise in its tv promotion a week before the films release
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I don't know, something like Ryan Reynolds dressed as Deadpool in front of Gambit, facing the camera and we can see the back of Gambits trench coat and head sock, holding cards in one hand maybe ;D
Oh, puh-lease!! Drop the head sock! A sock is meant for being around your feet, not your head! NO head sock!!! ;)
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Have to agree with the 'no headsock'. ;D
If I knew how to do gifs on my phone, this where I'd put a big one of stewie griffin saying 'what the deuce?!?' How did this happen?!?!? I'm not going the biggest fan of Tatum, but if he leaves the project does stand a good chance of dying. :o
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I like the theory that he is shooting scenes for something, but my best bet is that it could be for either Apoccy or Deadpool
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Because of the movie news, CBR did this story
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2015/07/30/top-five-most-embarrassing-gambit-moments/
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Because of the movie news, CBR did this story
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2015/07/30/top-five-most-embarrassing-gambit-moments/
Nah, nothing is worse then Gambit in Legacy
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Well that writer is a massive douche.
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Well that writer is a massive douche.
well he isnt saying anything new so who cares we know this s*** already we complained about this s*** before it was mainstream man, anyway on to more positive stuff like what cinemabland think of whos who http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Gambit-Reveals-Point-Film-Villain-Other-Major-Characters-73437.html
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also the day all the Tatum leaving stuff came out this artical got overlooked http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Gambit-May-Eyeing-Rising-Star-Its-Female-Lead-73927.html
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also the day all the Tatum leaving stuff came out this artical got overlooked http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Gambit-May-Eyeing-Rising-Star-Its-Female-Lead-73927.html
Belladonna)
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Since that was mentioned in the same article from The Wrap that started all this, I'm taking it with a grain of salt.
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Belladonna)
you bet your purplevit ass Belladonna :D
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I'm A-OK with Bella Donna. :)
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I'm A-OK with Bella Donna. :)
you bet purplevit's ass you are
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sorry Purplevit i had to
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LOL, everything is fine)
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http://www.ign.com/videos/2015/07/31/why-gambit-needs-channing-tatum-ign-keepin-it-reel-podcast?utm_source=IGN%20hub%20page&utm_medium=IGN%20(front%20page)&utm_content=16&utm_campaign=Blogroll
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IGN's podcast was okay. The only real point and probably more accurate is the money. I do think money is a factor and it could be the reason for the whole hoopla.
In the wrap article, there was screen tests - wonder how much if any ... of that factored in.
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Open letter to Channing Tatum via CBR
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/27-gambit-covers-that-will-convince-tatum-to-stay
The covers are cool.
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My bet is the screen test went damn good. And everyone eye$ start to $hine in how good this movie can be and how far from everything else it is. Yes, I'm pretty sure it's 1000% accurated thought!! haha
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http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/report-channing-tatum-fox-close-gambit-deal he is offically on board....AGAIN wasnt he officially on board before
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! haters gonna hate but we are the move again! Suck that, world!!! :gambit:
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As most guessed - moola was an issue and what not. But I'm glad its been worked through. Yay!
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Yes!!!!!!! I'm so happy it's back on!! :D
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As most guessed - moola was an issue and what not. But I'm glad its been worked through. Yay!
Thank goodness. Lol. I was reading that he wants compensation to push forward with toys and shirts and other merchandise. So not only is Channing giving us a Gambit movie, but toys and merch?! Thank you for making me add more to my Gambit collection. He's like our own Gambit Guild Santa Clause.
And he wants sequels. Thank you, C-Tates.
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I am relieved!!
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Thank goodness. Lol. I was reading that he wants compensation to push forward with toys and shirts and other merchandise. So not only is Channing giving us a Gambit movie, but toys and merch?! Thank you for making me add more to my Gambit collection. He's like our own Gambit Guild Santa Clause.
And he wants sequels. Thank you, C-Tates.
We gotta make him an honorary member here. He is like a GG Santa Claus ... its great. His enthusiasm for the character and his general love for him is great.
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Awesome news) He is really good GG Santa Claus, LOL
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Another source. I like having multiple sources, since other places went crazy with the "falling apart" stuff.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/channing-tatum-closes-his-gambit-812514
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http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/report-channing-tatum-fox-close-gambit-deal he is offically on board....AGAIN wasnt he officially on board before
Fox and Tatum had only every verbally confirmed a deal but they had never actually signed anything. So probably last minute postering.
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Fox and Tatum had only every verbally confirmed a deal but they had never actually signed anything. So probably last minute postering.
So he was down to act in it and produce , talked about this in interviews and even went to comic con, Donner confirmed he was in it and producing, Tatum talked about the script we have all seen the interviews, Fox put out a statement with him confirmed, yet he hadn't confirmed a deal? wtf
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So he was down to act in it and produce , talked about this in interviews and even went to comic con, Donner confirmed he was in it and producing, Tatum talked about the script we have all seen the interviews, Fox put out a statement with him confirmed, yet he hadn't confirmed a deal? wtf
I think that is where the confusion came in, everyone was on board but the paperwork wasn't done and there is always fine lines to go over with contracts.
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Promotion stunt, Perhaps? I don't think there was ever a real issue, and him walking out on the deal, not after having spent so much time and energy already on promoting it...
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Promotion stunt, Perhaps? I don't think there was ever a real issue, and him walking out on the deal, not after having spent so much time and energy already on promoting it...
And that $150 million budget. That's exciting too. And I think it was a stunt. It was a really good way to test the audience. I saw a lot of people who didn't want Tatum as Gambit wanting him back because they would rather have him as Gambit than no Gambit movie at all.
Most exciting of all, he signed a Jackman type deal to make him the face of the franchise. I feel like this is what is the biggest win of all. Maybe it does force Marvel to give the character some push in the comics. The character they have tried to bury for so long has persevered through his hardcore fans and now his most famous fan has a movie out of it. Suck it, Marvel. Haha.
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So he was down to act in it and produce , talked about this in interviews and even went to comic con, Donner confirmed he was in it and producing, Tatum talked about the script we have all seen the interviews, Fox put out a statement with him confirmed, yet he hadn't confirmed a deal? wtf
I just remember there were specific articles that mentioned it was confirmed and all parties had agreed in principal on the fact he would produce and star in it but there was never an article I saw that said a contract was actually signed.
It's not that infrequent in entertainment. Like the recent Mayweather and Pacquiao fight had a bunch of threats of the fight being canceled days before the fight because the lawyers for the two camps were arguing over the final agreement.
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Christmas came early for us this year!!!!!
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Well it was either a stunt or an overblown water cooler rumor but either way, I glad it's done. And I really, really hope he agreed to pay a multi picture deal and being even a little bit a the face of the franchise... ;D
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Well it was either a stunt or an overblown water cooler rumor but either way, I glad it's done. And I really, really hope he agreed to pay a multi picture deal and being even a little bit a the face of the franchise... ;D
According to the final reports, the big holdout was because he wanted to be the face of the franchise and that's why they are paying him as such. Woot woot!
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The character they have tried to bury for so long has persevered through his hardcore fans and now his most famous fan has a movie out of it. Suck it, Marvel. Haha.
Haha) That was funny)
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Recent photos of Tatum looking very very slim! :)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3182718/Jenna-Dewan-sizzles-dress-teasing-cutouts-Channing-Tatum-Step-Dizzy-Feet-Foundation-Gala.html :gambit:
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Slim but toned, right? :)
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Even reading from the original source (The Wrap), they never confirmed Channing was completely out, all it stated was that someone close to the production said that “something was up” …and made it sound more dramatic than what it really was. Then pretty much everyone else jumped the gun and assumed the movie was getting cancelled based on that comment, CBR even did piece on ‘Gambit’s Most Embarrassing Moments’
Anyway, this whole thing gave the movie a lot more publicity.
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CBR can't help itself and go the route of mocking. Especially when it comes to Gambit. But at least there were a couple of positive articles there in regards to Gambit.
The covers article and the open letter was good stuff. The embarrassing stuff wasn't needed but ... whatever.
Now, they're silly looking because of over reacting. LOL
And in this case, pub for Gambit. You are right on that. ;)
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I'm hearing Léa Seydoux is up for lead actress. I think that's a good cast, most likely Belladonna. Not a fan of Belladonna in the comics, but then again she never really had a lot of development, and the movies are always going to have a different take. One great thing about Belle is that she's just as unpredictable as Gambit (perhaps even more so).
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I hope it is the role of Bella Donna. Mostly because for Gambit's film, I want it to be about him and his history. I don't want skipping it (his history) because of any other character. His history is awesome and can translate well to the big screen. ;D
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I'm happy they will make the movie, and that tatum is so passionate about taking the role as gambit, but his face :/ I'm sorry, I'm not really that shallow in reality but gambit has always been thin and athletic, even if he loses weight, his face is just not gambits, it’s just too wide or something, I can’t describe it.
Credit to tatum for loving the character but I would have chosen a different actor if it was possible and still been able to make a gambit movie with Fox. Sorry, but it’s how I feel
At this point I hope the script is REALLY good to be able to get people to like the movie
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I guess we'll see how he does, he's still working on slimming down. :)
We can pick all sorts of actors that look more like Gambit but none of them really worked to get the part like Tatum has done. IMO - We're getting a film because of Tatum - not because Fox thought lets do a Gambit film.
This makes me think of Robert Downey Jr and Iron Man. I had reservations about RDJr playing Tony Stark. I thought - only two ways, flop or hit. Turns out, RDJr was great as Iron Man. While we can nit pick his 2 sequels. He was key in the Avengers movie. When they recast Iron Man, he will be a hard act to follow. It won't be like Spider-Man or Batman where film execs just look for someone to play the part.
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Yeah I see this happened many of times when certain actors take on the roles of famous superheros, Micheal Keaton had a huge backlash when he was cast as Batman to the point where batman fans were making petitions to WB to recast the role, and I believe everyone beloved Jackman at the time he was cast as Wolverine, they couldnt see it, but now...well I dont need to finish what happened now do I?
But I hope Tatum had in his contract to be shirtless for about 15 mins in the movie, we as the fangirls demand it!
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New York Post writer trashes Gambit and discourages Tatum from playing character on big screen:
http://nypost.com/2015/08/03/channing-tatum-is-making-a-huge-mistake-playing-gambit/
-Bad accent (this should offend an entire sect of people...)
-lame powers (obviously has no clue what they are talking about.)
-canceled solos (...90% of solos get canceled.)
It wont let me reply... maybe we should answer his questions.
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New York Post writer trashes Gambit and discourages Tatum from playing character on big screen:
http://nypost.com/2015/08/03/channing-tatum-is-making-a-huge-mistake-playing-gambit/
-Bad accent (this should offend an entire sect of people...)
-lame powers (obviously has no clue what they are talking about.)
-canceled solos (...90% of solos get canceled.)
It wont let me reply... maybe we should answer his questions.
you know what is also dumb having a character named ant-man and him being very tiny.....yet look at that movie the writer must obviously be an baka
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It's somebody who doesn't like the character and is butt hurt that he's getting a movie, but knows nearly nothing about Gambit. I've said as much in the comments.
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It's somebody who doesn't like the character and is butt hurt that he's getting a movie, but knows nearly nothing about Gambit. I've said as much in the comments.
Was there this much backlash with Deadpool? I think not! SUCK IT UP PEOPLE ITS COMING AND WE ALL KNOW ITS GONNA BE GOOD
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Unbelievable ... what a dumb article. Clearly the writer knows nothing about Gambit.
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We are talking about the NY Post, which is itself pretty trashy to begin with,
And of course the AV Club had to get their digs in, in a Newswire piece, no less. http://www.avclub.com/article/channing-tatum-officially-re-committed-playing-ter-223211
One of the commenters mentioned "electric playing cards"--sigh. It's gonna be a long ordeal having to see this BS.
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It wont let me reply... maybe we should answer his questions.
I had a real hard time with that too and they only give you five minutes to edit your comment before you can't anymore. Talk about frustrating. I got one line in and that was it.
I guess I should have wrote out what I think in notepad, then copy and pasted.
Doesn't matter the other posters nailed it as far as I'm concerned.
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Of course its people who dont a damn and dont to the research, they just know the basic which is sad. But I have a feeling when the movie is out next year everyone is gonna be saying "Why were there so much negative comments for it?" and hell even looking back at Origins, while it was a bad movie all together people dont really talk down on to like they should
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New York Post writer trashes Gambit and discourages Tatum from playing character on big screen:
http://nypost.com/2015/08/03/channing-tatum-is-making-a-huge-mistake-playing-gambit/
-Bad accent (this should offend an entire sect of people...)
-lame powers (obviously has no clue what they are talking about.)
-canceled solos (...90% of solos get canceled.)
It wont let me reply... maybe we should answer his questions.
I just LOLed at that article... ;D
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I had a real hard time with that too and they only give you five minutes to edit your comment before you can't anymore. Talk about frustrating. I got one line in and that was it.
I guess I should have wrote out what I think in notepad, then copy and pasted.
Doesn't matter the other posters nailed it as far as I'm concerned.
I'm "Phil P", was finally able to post. Neko, that was a classy statement. But I agree the other posters did a great job.
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I'm "Phil P", was finally able to post. Neko, that was a classy statement. But I agree the other posters did a great job.
I had a feeling you were "Phil P" .. because of what you stated was on CBR too. Another poster popped in and made a great comment on the NYPost article (about trolling and negativity).
I had no idea that NY Post trolled - or at least in this case - trolling.
I meant to say more but sometimes one line is all you need. And apparently no matter what else I wanted to say that one line was all I had. :)
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Another poster popped in and made a great comment on the NYPost article (about trolling and negativity).
That would be me :) I really liked the comments from both Neko and Phil!
I'm usually pretty quiet but felt I needed to get some stuff off my chest. Anyways there will always be people like this but who cares - we're getting a Gambit film by an actor who seems to genuinely like the character - a rare thing.
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There's always back lash and negativity when it comes to superhero castings but I have to admit, this one is starting to feel the same as Heath ledgers now. It's mirroring it in many ways.
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haters gonna hate but no matter what they say Gambit 2016 wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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haters gonna hate but no matter what they say Gambit 2016 wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I legitimately do not care if the movie sucks, just so long as a lot of people go to see it and prove to the studio this character can be successful.
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Spoonz posted too. Don't want to leave anyone out from here who made a comment on the NYPost article. A few more posts and really only one that didn't make sense as comments go.
As far as the movie goes, I want it to be good and successful. While the studio has some risk, Tatum does too. Or he wouldn't have all the "other" financial components in this film. Thats quite some incentive to make sure its right. :)
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It's a big budget for a Gambit origin movie. Either there's a Guilds storyline of a larger (worldly) scale, or maybe the involvement of Mr Sinister (the number 3 X-Villain) with some Marauders. I can't help think that there will be a couple of well known mutants involved in it.
There will be a new take on it, no doubt. They may even be creating completely new characters that aren't in the comics, which they already are with those character names that were listed a few weeks back. I'm all for that, I'd rather see new characters that suit the storyline rather than throwing in some fan-favourites that are unjustified like they did in 'Wolverine' ...unless of course these fan-favourites have a purpose, then that's fine.
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Not sure if this is the right place. . . So forgive me.
With all this talk of his power being lame and having free time on hand. . . . I figured I'd look what the science says. . . I figured I'd start with the maddest incarnation New Sun. Who has the greatest control over turning potential energy into kinetic and making stuff go boom. I assumed he'd be able to release 100% of the energy locked in matter (seeing as he has absolute control over kinetic energy). So looked that up apparently the max theorized energy in 1 kg of matter (Sorry metric) has 21. 5 megatons of energy (he maximum theoretical yield from 1 kg of matter by converting all of the mass into energy (by mass–energy equivalence, E = mc2) yields 89. 8 petajoules or the equivalent of 21. 5 megatons of TNT. No practical method (He's a mutant who needs practical) of total conversion exists today, such as combining 500 grams of matter with 500 grams of antimatter. However, in the case of proton–antiproton annihilation, approximately 50% of the released energy will escape in the form of neutrinos, which are almost undetectable. Electron–positron annihilation events emit their energy entirely as gamma rays. ). . . or very roughly 2 Hiroshima bombs in a 1. 8 g playing card. . . (kind of see why he wanted to Nerf that down. . . accidentally fully charge a card and boom no more New Orleans).
Then I figured well lets look at his ability to speed up objects what kind of damage could that inflict. No reference is made as to how much he can speed up things. So I assumed with his power being kinetic energy (speed of electrons all that) I'd link it to the speed of electricity which runs between 50-99% the speed of light (300,000,000m/s). I settled on 70% of the max which is about the speed electricity moves through cables. At that speed a 10 gram object would impact with the force of 220,500,000,000,000 joules or 0. 05 megatons (about 3 Hiroshima bombs)(I got that massive number with this formula 0. 5*0. 01kg*210,000,000m/s^2, Kinetic energy formula is joules = 1/2 * Mass (KG) * m/s^2) I started to figure out why he doesn't use a kinetically charged rail gun rifle effort. . . . . So new son = stupidly op. . . At this point of stupidly over powerful I tried to figure out normal gambit. . . .
Using a 1. 8 g playing card carrying the force of 100 grams of tnt which works out at 372,333 joules per gram (Based on 6,702 joules per 1 g of tnt). I worked out he only has 0. 000000414% of new sons max potential. . . . I wonder if he's holding back.
After this I gave up as the math was crazy and the idea of a man hauling around nuclear bomb equivalent cards / bullets seemed op even by comic standards. I decided current Gambit is plenty powerful and if he really wanted well we are all screwed.
Seriously can anyone tell me how much of an objects potential energy Gambit can tap.
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all of its potential, but Gambit is at like 40% power , 100% is New Son where he can manipulate time and space, fly , charge organic and inorganic matter and other stuff, as for the speeding up of objects Gambit cant do that, his abilities and speed are above average human because of his training with the Guilds from a young age, Gambit has never shown that his powers gave him superhuman agility and dexterity because even without powers he still had those
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It was alluded on the basketball court issue that his powers helped some with agility. However, I don't think it was really referenced after that.
As for his powers. He's pretty op when at full power, but he is one of those characters that has never relied on his powers. Yes, he has them, knows how to use them, but they aren't a crutch for him. I think that is an important thing to note. He's very self aware of the damage he can cause with them.
The movie might take a more offensive nature with his powers, guess we'll see.
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It was alluded on the basketball court issue that his powers helped some with agility. However, I don't think it was really referenced after that.
As for his powers. He's pretty op when at full power, but he is one of those characters that has never relied on his powers. Yes, he has them, knows how to use them, but they aren't a crutch for him. I think that is an important thing to note. He's very self aware of the damage he can cause with them.
The movie might take a more offensive nature with his powers, guess we'll see.
yup he has alot of powers that have been alluded to and never again mentioned or picked up by another writer or made cannon, yet wiki and marvel bio page add them in as cannon yet he has never used them, remember when he could see the future when he was blind that got dropped real quick but it happened on panel in continuity so theres more proof for it than any other powers alluded to, i always too the basket ball court as Rogue being made because they were losing and the fact that even powerless he is still as fast and agile, She says that Gambits powers give him natural agility how do they know if he is using them or not. i swear im not being a smart ass its a genuine question does Natural agility not mean like normal agility like nothing super?
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yup he has alot of powers that have been alluded to and never again mentioned or picked up by another writer or made cannon, yet wiki and marvel bio page add them in as cannon yet he has never used them, remember when he could see the future when he was blind that got dropped real quick but it happened on panel in continuity so theres more proof for it than any other powers alluded to, i always too the basket ball court as Rogue being made because they were losing and the fact that even powerless he is still as fast and agile, She says that Gambits powers give him natural agility how do they know if he is using them or not. i swear im not being a smart ass its a genuine question does Natural agility not mean like normal agility like nothing super?
It's the verbiage used to talk about his agility, when she says his powers give him natural agility. Does it mean, it adds to what he already knows or has been trained to do? Or is the question not really agility but stamina. He can continue to rely on his normal/natural agility that is fueled by his powers for length of time. I dunno.
We don't really get to see the full use of anything he can do, outside of the charging of cards.
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It's the verbiage used to talk about his agility, when she says his powers give him natural agility. Does it mean, it adds to what he already knows or has been trained to do? Or is the question not really agility but stamina. He can continue to rely on his normal/natural agility that is fueled by his powers for length of time. I dunno.
We don't really get to see the full use of anything he can do, outside of the charging of cards.
yeah its weird if she had said enhance or super itd make sense but she says natural agility, does that mean he had none to begin with this has opened up so many questions...damnit Rogue
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I always thought his powers did augment his natural agility and speed and also somehow give him the sense of when things are incoming. I mean he did have a bullet catch moment in x-men #1, and in marvel that may classified 'peak' human it's pretty close, but add that in to the upside bball shot that couldn't be blocked by wolverine plus holding his own in a hand to handish fight with skrull Gladiator in Uncanny #277 and also Fabian's Gambit #1 where he counts the bullets and understands they all missed makes me pretty feel safe in saying his powers do give him a definitive edge when added to his Guild Training. Of course this was all in his heyday, most recently he was killed by some ordinary gangster so..........
On a side note not that surprised to hear Tatum is on board with this though the 150 million budget does make me a little nervous since I don't want to rely on CGI for this movie, I woulda thought they could make it for half and given Fox's meh track record it does make me somewhat trepidatious but hopefully all the extra money will be put to good use.
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http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/469379-bella-donna-boudreaux-is-the-female-lead-in-gambit
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http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/469379-bella-donna-boudreaux-is-the-female-lead-in-gambit
awe yisss
its on cbr too
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/rebecca-ferguson-lea-seydoux-abbey-lee-testing-for-gambit-lead
Abbey Lee was terrible in Mad Max, i thought all the actresses in the heram (the brides or whatever they were) they were bad, the only downside to that film imo and she was the worst, Rebecca Ferguson is really good in MI5 (im also hoping she shows up in GoT flashback as Lyanna Stark)as for Lea Seydoux she was ok in MI4 cant remember her doing alot apart from fighting, i havnt seen here in anything else......so if its one of them i hope its Ferguson
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I just like the idea its Bella Donna in Gambit's origin film. Its starting where it should, imo.
Thanks Mythogma for the link, and Dantay for yours too. :)
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I'm personally hoping for Lea Seydoux. She's gonna be in Spectre which looks fantastic and she was previously in Blue is the Warmest Color which I've heard is fantastic but honestly doesn't seem like my kind of movie (I don't like foreign films).
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Exciting casting news. Either Rebecca Ferguson and Lea Seydoux would be great picks. Both are up-and-coming stars and more importantly great actors.
Not feeling Abbey Lee for the role though.
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Yep... If Gambit can't have Rogue (or what's left of her), I'd love to see him with her.
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So with Channing planning on doing a Cajun accent, do we think the other Guild cast members might too?
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I didn't watch Blue is the Warmest Colour after I read an interview where Seydoux said she seriously regretted doing such explicit sex scenes in the film since she thought afterwards they were unnecessary and she was ashamed or something along those lines, but I heard she's a great actress. So I'd hope for her really, if she can act and do action films then that's awesome! I figured that's one of the main reasons First Class and DOFP worked, Fassbender and Macavoy being really good actors. Plus I think Tatum needs somebody good to work off and maybe encourage him to act well.
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I hope they would choose Lea Seydoux,
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This woulda been a good question to put to Asmus back when he came to visit.
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Lea would seem like the better fit just from her background but good god I fell in love with Rebecca Ferguson in Rogue Nation so she's got my vote. I am sure either would be great in the role.
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So with Channing planning on doing a Cajun accent, do we think the other Guild cast members might too?
I do not think so. I hope at least Tatum will get a good accent.
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So with Channing planning on doing a Cajun accent, do we think the other Guild cast members might too?
Why wouldn't they?
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Wait! ...
I just realised something ...
2016 has two great things getting released ...
Gambit film AND Final Fantasy VII remake ... :o
Time travel, yes please!!! ;D
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oops totally misread that
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So with Channing planning on doing a Cajun accent, do we think the other Guild cast members might too?
I agree with cc008. They should all be speaking in the same sort of accent. Whether they all go Cajun or "southern" will be another story. But the fact that in the casting call, they are looking for actors who can speak French, that's a sign they are defintely doing French Quarter accents. Which is exciting.
I'm super excited with the direction of the film. And I may be naïve, but I think Tatum will do a good job with the accent.
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Wait! ...
I just realised something ...
2016 has two great things getting released ...
Gambit film AND Final Fantasy VII remake ... :o
Time travel, yes please!!! ;D
...the remake will be ready next year?! I was expecting 17, maybe 18. Profound happiness.
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Weeeeeelllll... From what I read online somewhere (don't ask me where and don't pin me down on it) that it would be released in December 2016. It could be a rumour... 2017 would be fine for me too, since that would mark the 20th anniversary of the game.
But if it's really 2016 it really gonna be a great year.
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ANYway, back to topic: I agree they really need the same accent. And the people who don't speak French should get lessons to at least get pronunciation right. Ask a random native English speaker to repeat a French sentence... Utter horror! If they can get that right, and have them all have more or less the same accent, there's hope.
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ANYway, back to topic: I agree they really need the same accent. And the people who don't speak French should get lessons to at least get pronunciation right. Ask a random native English speaker to repeat a French sentence... Utter horror! If they can get that right, and have them all have more or less the same accent, there's hope.
My fear from the announcement of this project was that they'd be in NOLA. I'm worried that they won't be able to find enough actors to pull off the same accent. I'd rather they all not do it, than force it.
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I'd rather they all not do it, than force it.
I think the same.
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The budget is good, they can afford some 'language' lessons...
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Cajun French can be hard to nail down, I'd rather some of the actors just use Southern accents if possible. If they cast Lea Seydoux, she can just use her normal accent and they can use a throwaway line about her being adopted from France.
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Taylor Kitsch used a generic southern accent and he got slated for it. Now people are saying they'd rather a generic southern accent than a bad Cajun one. Maybe that's the choice he made, I guess people will be unhappy no matter how Tatum speaks.
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The budget is good, they can afford some 'language' lessons...
LOL true story
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Taylor Kitsch used a generic southern accent and he got slated for it. Now people are saying they'd rather a generic southern accent than a bad Cajun one. Maybe that's the choice he made, I guess people will be unhappy no matter how Tatum speaks.
I actually didn't mind the southern accent, especially after reading that he had difficulty with the Cajun and settled for a southern one. And I do agree people are going to complain no matter what--mark my words, if CT does an impeccable accent, we'll still hear from fanboys and -girls b***hing that it's not like the cartoons.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaQ3WMqkxLU
Channing Tatum (2016) Gambit - 4 Things You Need To Know
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Taylor Kitsch used a generic southern accent and he got slated for it. Now people are saying they'd rather a generic southern accent than a bad Cajun one. Maybe that's the choice he made, I guess people will be unhappy no matter how Tatum speaks.
in the leaked version i coulda sworn his accent sounded better but it ended up being like his Texan accent on FNL, i think he got slated for not trying to do a Cajun having said thatTatum keeps doing swamp Cajun as seen on the Gator hunters tv show on the History channel, Gambit should sound more french than redneck/hillbilly/ swamp person which is how Tatum sounds anytime ive hear him try it
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in the leaked version i coulda sworn his accent sounded better but it ended up being like his Texan accent on FNL, i think he got slated for not trying to do a Cajun having said thatTatum keeps doing swamp Cajun as seen on the Gator hunters tv show on the History channel, Gambit should sound more french than redneck/hillbilly/ swamp person which is how Tatum sounds anytime ive hear him try it
You're so right about the leaked version. It is definitely different from the final version. Better too. They must've had him come back for dubbing it.
I always felt that Gambit's accent should be more of a mix between a French and a southern accent. It's hard to explain, but you should definitely heard the French undertone, but not like the French, or Canadian French, would speak English. A little bit more than slightly but not over the top. And since he is from the South, he should have a bit of that Southern drawl... ish...
I think it should be subtle, not the unintelligible mess that was XTAS...
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Only 2 months to go before we'll see an official photo of our new Gambit!!! :D
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I think we will hear soon who will play Bella and possible Sinister casting)
Interesting thing that Tatum never mentioned Gambit's red/black eyes.
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I think he mentioned in once in an interview.
I have a feeling he'll have the red and black eyes in the film
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I wouldn't be surprised if they cut them out or cut them down a lot. It's got to be an actors worst nightmare to have your eyes covered (or cgi'd) the whole time.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they cut them out or cut them down a lot. It's got to be an actors worst nightmare to have your eyes covered (or cgi'd) the whole time.
I really think Remy Lebeau will be wearing "contacts" every so often (X-Men films are grounded in realism and I can't imagine someone being able to walk around with red eyes, no matter how handsome they are), so Channing Tatum won't have to wear full eye contacts most of the time or have to use CGI which can be tricky and expensive. Covering his eyes with shades all the time isn't conducive for acting. Which is why Captain America's face is exposed 90% of the time, and we get to see Iron Man's face under the helmet.
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There is an option of making his eyes go red on black when he uses his powers, but still I have my hopes for Gambits red and black eyes through out the film. Tatum loves Gambit and he'll want to bring to life Gambit in every way possible. No matter what they go with, I'm excited to see the official image of him. :gambit: :smitten:
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the whole prophecy regarding the guilds is based around his eyes so if they are doing his origin hopefully they will keep his eyes red, him wearing contacts to look normal would be a cool idea
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the whole prophecy regarding the guilds is based around his eyes so if they are doing his origin hopefully they will keep his eyes red, him wearing contacts to look normal would be a cool idea
It's practical. Full eye contacts are irritating, I'm sure they'll want to limit their use as much as possible. But perhaps CGI has come further in the past few years?
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I've always felt that what really works here is that his eyes have a normal color unless someone is really looking at them and then they see that red glint which becomes more pronounced the more power he uses. Of course, I've always liked the idea that somewhere along the way he learns to use his ability to 'charm' most people into not actually paying attention to his eye color which could produce some extremely interesting visuals in a movie. I think the former is a more simple and easy to deal with premise but the latter idea is richer if they really know how to do it right.
I do think they definitely need to keep some aspect of the eye color though because it does tell the audience he is indeed a 'mutant' in regards to more than just abilities.
Shifting gears into the prophecy spiel the Gambit series is probably a good time for Fox to introduce magic/witchcraft into their universe, I mean they already have Doom, in the future they're going to have Magick and the new mutants in it might be smart to lay some groundwork for it in a Gambit origin flick.
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You know, Gambit typically wears glasses when he's out in public and not on a job for a reason.
He doesn't wear the glasses when he -wants- to draw attention to himself.
In a world where superheroes and mutants are a known quantity, having oddly colored eyes isn't as attention grabbing as, say, having blue skin/fur. I really hope they don't go with the 'world is ignorant about mutants' in the story.
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Rebecca Ferguson dropped out of the running
for Gambit to co-star in a movie with Emily
Blunt.
http://deadline.com/2015/08/rebecca-ferguson-the-girl-on-the-train-mission-impossible-rogue-nation-1201500894/
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Lea looks like a safe bet for Belladonna now
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So still nothing new? Gah, I starting to think this movie is an Internet rumor again... C'mon people this thing is supposed to be released next year for crying out loud!
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So still nothing new? Gah, I starting to think this movie is an Internet rumor again... C'mon people this thing is supposed to be released next year for crying out loud!
Most expensive internet rumor in history lol
The budget scares me. I dont think Tatum's production company has been in charge of movie this size before. Hope they can do the juggling act. With X3, Origins and Fantastic 4, Fox has shown they dont exactly have a handle when Singer isnt involved.
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Yeah but The Wolverine and First Class films (without Singers involvement) was a step up when it comes to X-men films. And with the look of Deadpool, it seems they are going in the right direction. Fingers crossed for Gambit
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There are sites now reporting that Lea has been cast, but Variety says she's still in talks: http://variety.com/2015/film/news/lea-seydoux-channing-tatum-x-men-spinoff-gambit-1201577226/
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I'd say it's a close bet, at this point. She's got the offer, and she has no real reason to not take it. Unlike Ferguson, who's career skyrocketed with Rogue Nation, it would be kind of a waste for her considering there's talks of her being able to front her own franchise. Also, Swedish people apparently view comics as being for children, unless it's political satire.
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Glad to hear she got the part, she was my favourite out of the 3 main females. Looking forwards to hearing about, who the rest of the cast is now.
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Lea Seydoux would be a perfect Bella Donna.
Interesting to see what they'll do with the character, 10 years ago I would never have thought a character like Bella Donna would ever be in movie, considering that Gambit couldn't get into 6 X-Men movies.
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http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/fox-picks-la-seydoux-for-gambit-female-lead
Bella Donna was created by Scott Lobdell and Jim Lee, and first appeared in 1992's "X-Men" #8. She's closely connected with Gambit, with the characters knowing each other since childhood and sharing a subsequently complicated relationship of being both lovers and (given her status as a member of the Assassins' Guild) enemies. Like Gambit, Bella Donna is also a mutant, with powers of astral projection and plasma blasts from the artical
why cant they say Bella is his ex wife its not a spoiler, also she had powers for an 4 issue arc and then they were gone she's not a mutant, ...rant over, all hail Belladonna :)
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Maybe they don't want him married in the film? I do agree that unifying the guilds though is a big deal. And I'm glad they are doing his back story.
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Well him being married to Bella is a spoiler because we don't know the direction the movie is going to take with respect to that point as no movie borrows from the source material 100% so I suspect they want to keep it under wraps for now.
As for her being a mutant, I wouldn't be surprised if they made a lot of the Thieve's and Assassin Guild members mutants or super powered as from a spectacle and special effects perspective, the more people with powers the better. If this really has a 150 million budget then they are going to need a lot more people with powers than just Gambit and it's quite easy to turn the TG and AG rivalry into some sort of super power rivalry where perhaps the TG has mutants while the AG has individuals that got their powers via other means or where both factions got their power via other means but then have a few people that have powers because they are mutants and hence are viewed as outcasts.
In any event, I think there is a lot of room to flesh out the TG and AG more than what was in the comics and would be interested in seeing a fresh take on it rather than just a straight up copy of the source material.
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Well him being married to Bella is a spoiler because we don't know the direction the movie is going to take with respect to that point as no movie borrows from the source material 100% so I suspect they want to keep it under wraps for now.
As for her being a mutant, I wouldn't be surprised if they made a lot of the Thieve's and Assassin Guild members mutants or super powered as from a spectacle and special effects perspective, the more people with powers the better. If this really has a 150 million budget then they are going to need a lot more people with powers than just Gambit and it's quite easy to turn the TG and AG rivalry into some sort of super power rivalry where perhaps the TG has mutants while the AG has individuals that got their powers via other means or where both factions got their power via other means but then have a few people that have powers because they are mutants and hence are viewed as outcasts.
In any event, I think there is a lot of room to flesh out the TG and AG more than what was in the comics and would be interested in seeing a fresh take on it rather than just a straight up copy of the source material.
Well, not everyone has to be a mutant. A lot of the thieves and assassins gained supernatural ability through tithing and magic. Buy I agree, that $150m has to go somewhere. Perhaps that's the whole budget including advertising (that would cut out about 10m)?
Maybe they plan to do a lot of on locale filming? Gambit's an international thief. He doesn't limit himself to the US. Besides, the area of New Orleans Gambit comes from was heavily effected by Katrina. Seeing as Tatum plans on doing as much business there as possible, the place will need face-lift, if not just built up entirely. You don't need to be in NOLA to use a green screen, so I expect more practical backdrops.
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Not saying everyone is a mutant. My point is I suspect there were be far more super powered individuals than the TG and AG that were in the comics and you could play up the conflict between the two groups more if one side had more supes and the other side had more mutants as it becomes a microcosm of the overal tension between super powered humans and mutants.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they made a lot of the Thieve's and Assassin Guild members mutants or super powered as from a spectacle and special effects perspective, the more people with powers the better.
Thieves and Assassins members as mutants could work. It links perfectly to the X-Men movies and it'll make the characters a lot more interesting.
For instance, if they bring in Julian, rather than having a campy sword fight, they could power him up and do something a lot more engaging.
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I think this is a very good casting. From reading reports from Variety and Hollywood Examiner, and the like, their only reservation about her was wondering if she could pull off a Cajun accent. And that's why she wasn't cast right away. She must have blown them away considering they are putting a lot of stock into the accents.
I am excited. I think she is going to play the role perfectly.
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Well him being married to Bella is a spoiler because we don't know the direction the movie is going to take with respect to that point as no movie borrows from the source material 100% so I suspect they want to keep it under wraps for now.
Yep, I agree with that. It could very well be a plot point in the film and I'm sure they also realize that their audience won't necessarily know that fact or look it up before hand.
Maybe they plan to do a lot of on locale filming? Gambit's an international thief. He doesn't limit himself to the US. Besides, the area of New Orleans Gambit comes from was heavily effected by Katrina. Seeing as Tatum plans on doing as much business there as possible, the place will need face-lift, if not just built up entirely. You don't need to be in NOLA to use a green screen, so I expect more practical backdrops.
Yeah, hope it's mostly filmed in New Orleans. It would be very smart to film it on location for the film's atmosphere and budget. Louisiana offers a pretty substantial tax break which is why many film there and in Cleveland. Unfortunately, last month it was voted to reduce the tax credits in Louisiana. It's probably still worth it for budget reasons.
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Yeah for me I wouldn't go overboard with locales. New Orleans, maybe Paris or England if Candra or Sinister are involved and to make that the international head of the respective Guilds but wouldn't go too far beyond that. If the movie shows his exile then I suppose he would end up in other US cities but those are usually easier and keep to recreate without having to go on location.
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I think it will be base in New Orleans and New York
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Not saying everyone is a mutant. My point is I suspect there were be far more super powered individuals than the TG and AG that were in the comics and you could play up the conflict between the two groups more if one side had more supes and the other side had more mutants as it becomes a microcosm of the overal tension between super powered humans and mutants.
I totally agree with the sentiment but I still don't think I can trust Fox to deliver something like that as of right now.
However I agree that perhaps we will see a power uppage within the story, I'm really not sure it's neccessary but I do like the idea of Julian being a mutant or having a power set very much. It would set up the conflict as a lot more serious and is also an area where the script has a lot of room to play since Gambit's origins are very much still vague to this very day.
@Donpricetag
Love this idea that it doesn't have to be mutant powers, it would play very much into the New Orleans setting if they go the route you are thinking.
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In other news, I think we'll see Gambut on a motorbike. Tatum announced today he just finished a riding course.
I'm guessing this has to do with the film.
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In other news, I think we'll see Gambut on a motorbike. Tatum announced today he just finished a riding course.
I'm guessing this has to do with the film.
It would be awesome!
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I hope there's a high-speed chase scene and Gambit manages to blow up a road or a bridge or something to escape his chasers.
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when i was in school around the time X-Men came out i wrote a script for the squeal and in it Gambit had a motor bike he charged up and jumped off as it went straight into the X- Jet blowing it up ....he starts out as a bad guy, always loved the idea of him charging up a bike and blowing something up with it
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Best example) Part 1
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And part 2)
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I totally agree with the sentiment but I still don't think I can trust Fox to deliver something like that as of right now.
However I agree that perhaps we will see a power uppage within the story, I'm really not sure it's neccessary but I do like the idea of Julian being a mutant or having a power set very much. It would set up the conflict as a lot more serious and is also an area where the script has a lot of room to play since Gambit's origins are very much still vague to this very day.
@Donpricetag
Love this idea that it doesn't have to be mutant powers, it would play very much into the New Orleans setting if they go the route you are thinking.
Well if the movie does get beyond Gambit leaving New Orleans (ie it ends with his exile and the fight with Julian) then I would think Julian would have to be powered up in some way.
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I hope there's a high-speed chase scene and Gambit manages to blow up a road or a bridge or something to escape his chasers.
If there's not a acrobatic motorcycle chase, then these people have no business making a gambit movie, but they clearly no nothing! ;D
Did they say bell could could Astral project? Plasma blasts I kinda remember but astral projecting?
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If there's not a acrobatic motorcycle chase, then these people have no business making a gambit movie, but they clearly no nothing! ;D
Did they say bell could could Astral project? Plasma blasts I kinda remember but astral projecting?
X-Men issue 8 when she first appears she fires a blast that hits Gambit Bishop and Rogue , useing here astral projection power is what killed her fighting the Brood in issue 9
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I do not want Bella to be a mutant. Just let her throw knives and be an awesome fighter.
Interesting if they will use story that thieves got life and assassins got power.
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I do not want Bella to be a mutant. Just let her throw knives and be an awesome fighter.
Interesting if they will use story that thieves got life and assassins got power.
Im cool with her being a mutant, I just dont want them overdoing it. A movie like this needs some subtly, and nothing helps an action flick like a good segment(s) of hand to hand combat. Not every movie can look like Born Identity or Winter Soldier in terms of choreography, but one that centers around highly trained assassins and thieves undoubtedly trained to at least be able to defend themselves against, if not beat an assassin, it fits perfectly. Who ever did the last aforementioned movies need to be a part of this movie.
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Bella needs to be kick ass and deadly dangerous , one of my favorite Gambit descriptions of her is this "Remy always loved her laugh, equal parts lust for life and threat of Danger", a bit further in the dialog theres this gem "He'd love to chat whit his ex-wife, but cant since Bella Donna would kill him before the word hello passed his lips"
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Well if they go the power route, I would want to have it be along the lines of Ninja type level powers you saw in anima of Japanese manga. Stuff like invisibility, powers of misdirection, super agility, durability, etc. Like I remember Ninja Scroll where you had Emi Shinohara who was immune to poisons and was the Imperial food taster and so her body was toxic to the point that anyone who so much as kissed her would die.
Point being it should be powers that would aid them in actually carrying out whatever role they have in the TG or AG.
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Well if they go the power route, I would want to have it be along the lines of Ninja type level powers you saw in anima of Japanese manga. Stuff like invisibility, powers of misdirection, super agility, durability, etc. Like I remember Ninja Scroll where you had Emi Shinohara who was immune to poisons and was the Imperial food taster and so her body was toxic to the point that anyone who so much as kissed her would die.
Point being it should be powers that would aid them in actually carrying out whatever role they have in the TG or AG.
Emi always reminded me of Rogue....wait didnt Jubei kiss Emi ?
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Like I remember Ninja Scroll where you had Emi Shinohara who was immune to poisons and was the Imperial food taster and so her body was toxic to the point that anyone who so much as kissed her would die.
Emi always reminded me of Rogue....wait didnt Jubei kiss Emi ?
I believe you guys mean Kagero. Emi Shinohara is a voice actress.
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I believe you guys mean Kagero. Emi Shinohara is a voice actress.
yup thats the one
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Yeah I got the names mixed up as I went to wiki to get her name.
And yes Jubei kissed Kagero but he was poisoned at the time so basically the poison in her cured him of the poison that was in him. It was right before she died.
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Here’s Why Channing Tatum’s Gambit Is The Hero The ‘X-Men’ Franchise Needs
The X-Men franchise needs the Cajun, now.
http://www.mtv.com/news/2226396/channing-tatum-leaving-gambit-rumor/
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It seems filming will start on November 9th
http://www.projectcasting.com/news/gambit-starring-channing-tatum-is-now-hiring-crew/
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Some crazy non sense of mine, BUT... Look at this! Stan says something about a new and special Cameo , with someone important to him. My bet? Mr. Tatum Cameo. Yeah, after all the Buzz on that Fox panel with Channing helping Stan getting out, I sense something cool on the horizon. Also, Singer did a photo with Channing after the CON.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/KingPatel/news/?a=124674
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Could you give the quote? the videos are private.
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also this!
http://screenrant.com/10-facts-you-need-to-know-about-gambit/
About the previous post, there's no mention about Gambit on the interview, just Stan saying he has a cameo on the next X movie, he thinks it's his best cameo so far, and he is with someone he likes a lot. ;)
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Gambit isnt even filming, its probably Hugh Jackman in X-Men or Ryan Reynolds in Deadpool where he works in a strip club, as its the next X-Men film im thinking Apocalypse
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Oh my God! It's far too quiet! They seriously need to release some new movie news soon. :-\
Give us some updates of who's playing who or a synopsis at least
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Talking about cameos, imagine Gambit sitting at a table playing poker and around the table is sitting Stan Lee and Chris Claremont. Add in Chris Potter and it would be amazing :smitten:
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Oh my God! It's far too quiet! They seriously need to release some new movie news soon. :-\
Give us some updates of who's playing who or a synopsis at least
It happened with the Deadpool movie too. After the casting calls came out, it got pretty quiet for a bit. It'll ramp up again in the coming months.
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Very true, I'm just so excited to see the Official image of Tatum as Gambit!
We're so close to seeing it :D I want to see the image and think..15 years was worth the wait to see Gambit.
I just hope it won't be a disappointment
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The crew on the film Gambit is starting to build up if you look at IMDB
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It is a calm before a Gambit storm :)
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Very true, it will explode after the official image is released of Gambit. I'm ready to fight Gambits corner hahaha ;D
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Very true, it will explode after the official image is released of Gambit. I'm ready to fight Gambits corner hahaha ;D
If filmimg really starts in november then we are still 2 month ftom our first official immage(
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To be fair, that was just one site that reported that. When another site comes out with the same info, I'll believe it.
Always get the double confirmation, no matter the circumstance.
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I still think they will start filming in October scenes. The last report said filming will begin in New Orleans in November. They'll shoot promotion photos for the film or maybe int shots in October.
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http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/comic-reel-hiddleston-says-what-he-knows-about-thor-ragnarok-kinberg-explains-shared-x-men-franchise
Shared Universe stuff.
GAMBIT
In an interview with MTV, X-movie universe producer Simon Kinberg talked about the shared nature of "Gambit," "Deadpool" and the "X-Men" films.
“The idea is that we’ve sort of reset the timeline after ’Days of Future Past’ in some ways, and if not erased, certainly allowed for change from ’X1,’ ’2,’ ’3,’ everything from ’Days of Future Past’ forward, 1973, everything we set now becomes canon,” he said. “So the ’Gambit’ movie, the ’Deadpool’ movie, will exist in a world that acknowledges whatever happened in ’Days of Future Past’ and moving forward. Doesn’t mean they’ll always interact with those characters, obviously, it’s not like every movie has all the characters, but they all have to exist within the same rules.” He then added, “There will be interplay between different characters in different movies.”
He also spoke about how he keeps all these films and their place in the new canon straight. “I don’t have it up on a wall, but I have it on my computer, and I have it sort of tattooed on my brain now too,” Kinberg said. “Nothing external, so that if I get knocked over the head, no one can read it. It’s literally behind my eyelids. But yeah, we have a clear sense of the directions we want to take them in and in my my mind at least, how we could start to cross-pollinate sort of with those characters that have their standalone movies.”
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http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/gambit-shakeup-director-rupert-wyatt-reportedly-leaving-film
So it looks like the director is out. To me, it's no big deal. I am a fan of Rupert Wyatt, but directors arent that important to comic films that they were in the past. Joss Whedon didn't exactly do that great on Avengers 2 and I can't even tell you who took over Edgar Wright's position on Ant-Man. I guess this is why we haven't heard too much about the film.
This movie just seems to keep going despite everything. haha.
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http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/gambit-shakeup-director-rupert-wyatt-reportedly-leaving-film
So it looks like the director is out. To me, it's no big deal. I am a fan of Rupert Wyatt, but directors arent that important to comic films that they were in the past. Joss Whedon didn't exactly do that great on Avengers 2 and I can't even tell you who took over Edgar Wright's position on Ant-Man. I guess this is why we haven't heard too much about the film.
This movie just seems to keep going despite everything. haha.
I disagree. I cant describe how much I disagree. A director can make the difference between X2 and X3, or Superman Returns and Man of Steel... Batman/ Batman Returns and Batman and Robin. Directors are a huge deal. And while Avengers 2 wasnt as jaw dropping as 1, it was still a damn good movie. I'm not enthused by this at all...
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hey (nudge) hey (nudge) remember a few weeks ago Channing was leaving the film....good times
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Now is Joss Wheadons chance :D
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I disagree. I cant describe how much I disagree. A director can make the difference between X2 and X3, or Superman Returns and Man of Steel... Batman/ Batman Returns and Batman and Robin. Directors are a huge deal. And while Avengers 2 wasnt as jaw dropping as 1, it was still a damn good movie. I'm not enthused by this at all...
Please don't take this as trolling, but I can't describe how much I disagree with you. Those movies knew they were changing shifts in direction of tone of the movie. But it's also same affect of The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises. Same director, two completely different films. DK was brilliant. Every bit. But DKR was a total mess. Total mess. Plot holes. Dragging plot. Pacing issues. Sound and visual issues. People seem to give it a pass because it is Nolan and his first two were brilliant.
And when it comes to this movie in particular, I see it more of what Ant-Man is/was. It is a film that is spearheaded by everyone but the director. It was a cog in the wheel of franchise films. This is a Channing Tatum and Reid Carolin movie who want to direct together and Channing wanted a big name director for the film.
And Wyatt also left because he felt the budget was getting too big. I quite frankly don't want a director who gets distracted by that type of thing. Can't take the heat, step out of the kitchen. I am ready to see who they are going to add in as director, but it's Channing's movie. He will probably get someone who he can work with.
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WHY NOW?! WHY SO CLOSE TO SHOOTING THIS GOTTA HAPPEN?! WE NEED SOMEONE LIKE IN THE NEXT 3 WEEKS TO SIGN!!!!!
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WHY NOW?! WHY SO CLOSE TO SHOOTING THIS GOTTA HAPPEN?! WE NEED SOMEONE LIKE IN THE NEXT 3 WEEKS TO SIGN!!!!!
Part of the issue was that filming was moved cal and it coincided with a film he was already attached to. So I think shooting will be more in November/December-ish.
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Part of the issue was that filming was moved cal and it coincided with a film he was already attached to. So I think shooting will be more in November/December-ish.
I hope so, I truly do, but they really need to get someone quick and sign before shooting even start
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I guess we should start proposing directors now.
Matt Reeves - Dawn of the Planet of the Apes
John Behring - Multiple episodes of Arrow
Thor Freudenthal - Multiple episodes of Arrow (he directed the mid-season finale of season three)
Christopher McQuarrie - Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation
Craig Zisk - Multiple episodes of Brooklyn Nine-Nine
Sylvain White - The Losers
David O. Russell - Silver Linings Playbook
If this list seems a little odd, keep in mind that Captain America: Winter Soldier was made by two people who were most known for directing sitcoms and look at how good that movie was. Just because they don't do a lot of action movies or are stuck with television doesn't mean they can't make a great movie.
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Mel Gibson, Joss Wheadon, Brian Singer, Mathew Vaughn , George Miller, Edgar Wright or Chris Miller &Phil Lord
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Mel Gibson
Okay now your just trolling lol
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Mel Gibson, Joss Whedon, Bryan Singer, Matthew Vaughn , George Miller, Edgar Wright, or Chris Miller & Phil Lord
I remember when Edgar Wright left Ant-Man I really hoping for Fox to snatch him up, not even really for Gambit, but still. He'd make a great X-Men or X-Men related movie.
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Okay now your just trolling lol
trolling would be suggesting Tommy Wiseau, Mel Gibson is a really good director
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Doug Limen. ::drops the mic::
Please don't take this as trolling, but I can't describe how much I disagree with you. Those movies knew they were changing shifts in direction of tone of the movie. But it's also same affect of The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises. Same director, two completely different films. DK was brilliant. Every bit. But DKR was a total mess. Total mess. Plot holes. Dragging plot. Pacing issues. Sound and visual issues. People seem to give it a pass because it is Nolan and his first two were brilliant.
And when it comes to this movie in particular, I see it more of what Ant-Man is/was. It is a film that is spearheaded by everyone but the director. It was a cog in the wheel of franchise films. This is a Channing Tatum and Reid Carolin movie who want to direct together and Channing wanted a big name director for the film.
And Wyatt also left because he felt the budget was getting too big. I quite frankly don't want a director who gets distracted by that type of thing. Can't take the heat, step out of the kitchen. I am ready to see who they are going to add in as director, but it's Channing's movie. He will probably get someone who he can work with.
FYI a difference in opinion is NOT trolling. :)
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or me i could do it, free too
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Why didn't I think of Steven Soderbergh? Throw him on the list.
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WHY NOW?! WHY SO CLOSE TO SHOOTING THIS GOTTA HAPPEN?! WE NEED SOMEONE LIKE IN THE NEXT 3 WEEKS TO SIGN!!!!!
The film was suppose to start shooting in November but it looks like filming is now moving to March 2016 as they are apparently trying to shoot it around Mardi Gras which I suppose makes sense. So probably not going to have much Gambit news for a while if filming has been pushed back 4 months. I suspect the October 2016 release is likely to move as well if this is true and perhaps if the budget is increasing they are planning for this to come out during the Christmas/New Years time frame or Feb/March 2017.
If Jackman is really leaving then perhaps the increase in budget is because they are trying to invest more into this film to turn it from an Ant-Man style budget to one more comparable to a summer blockbuster so they can position Gambit as the replacement for Wolverine. That was part of the rumor as to why Tatum's deal got held up is because he wanted to be compensated more for replacing Jackman. It probably also may mean more super powered guest appearances to showcase more summer blockbuster special effects.
http://deadline.com/2015/09/rupert-wyatt-channing-tatum-gambit-fox-x-men-1201530583/
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/channing-tatums-gambit-movie-loses-823992
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Why didn't I think of Steven Soderbergh? Throw him on the list.
Oceans Eleven... Nice. Can we mix Limen and Soderbergh and turn Gambit into a Ocean's Eleven- Bourne Identity hybrid?
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I want to see this film show the underworld of New Orleans.
I don't want it to be just light and fluffy, it needs to have a balance of light moments/humour and show dark serious moments.
If you put Gambit in the real world, let's be honest no one would like this guy.
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I am sad that Wyatt left. I hope new director will be really good.
Film shooting with Mardi Grass is interesting idea.
I think everything will be fine.
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I think a scene in Mardi Gras would be key! And a good nod to G's history.
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I am sad that Wyatt left. I hope new director will be really good.
Film shooting with Mardi Grass is interesting idea.
I think everything will be fine.
filming during Mardi Gras is an idiotic move, if it was staged you can control everything doing the real thing production is dealing with noise they have no control over and drunk people which is a disaster, this sounds bad
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Amy Westcott is the costume designer for Gambit. She has recently been added to the crew list on IMDB
I'm curious to see what she will do with his costume or which one they will use.
After seeing Deadpool, I hope we at least get to have Gambits costume.
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You know, everybody on that production team have worked on some great films. Except the X-men 3 guy. But yeah I'm seeing Avengers there, The Wrestler, Nightcrawler...looks promising.
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Anna Paquin confirms she will not be suing Rogue in the Gambit film
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Anna Paquin confirms she will not be suing Rogue in the Gambit film
was there any reason ever to believe Rogue would be in the film?
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I think it was the Romy fans hoping for their "beautiful ship" to made real on the big screen or some BS. Rogue won't be in this movie and I suspect that when she next appears, she won't be played by Paquin.
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Rogue shouldn't be played by Paquin. Her influence on Rogue's character has been awful. Yes, I know - the script and all that but still - she was not a good rendition.
I don't want Rogue in Gambit's film, at least not the first one. Gambit should be established on his own. Which is what is needed before expanding on his universe. And by then, find a better actress to play Rogue. Or better yet, a better script for Rogue's depiction.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/comic-reel-evans-talks-reason-behind-civil-war-division-paquin-denies-involvement-in-gambit
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Good as didn't want her or Rogue in that film. Too early for Rogue to appear IMO.
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Good. I never liked Paquin as Rogue. She
need to be recasted
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This is such non-news--why would she appear? [sarcasm]Oh, right. Because you can't have Gambit without her, no matter how flat her characterization.[/sarcasm] I think Anna gets more blame than she deserves for movie!Rogue; she's an otherwise good actress, but was given a thankless role.
Actually, I take part of the above back, since I'm not sure how many are aware that it's an origin movie. for some fans, Gambit and Rogue just go together--they can't imagine one without the other. I think I've been so sour on Rogue and Romy in the comics that any suggestion of her/them puts me in a bad mood. I need to keep reminding myself (among other things) that some fans interested in this movie either don't know/don't care about the comics and want to see a favorite pairing.
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was there any reason ever to believe Rogue would be in the film?
Probably some reason because of their very famous relationship in the comics. But she (Rogue) shouldn't be in the movie regardless of who would play her.
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Was there some sort of rumor going around the net that she would? I guess it makes sense... The vast majority of X-Men fans were fans of the animated series... Thinking of Gambit in that context does bring Rogue to mind in the general sense, its kind of natural the common fan would believe Rogue would be in it, in a vacuum (the movie goers actually do exist in a vacuum, no comics, no boards, no bias just nostagia). They haven't seen Gambit in almost 20 years, if you don't count Wolverine origin's or video games. But I didn't think it was getting around enough for this to have to be addressed. I told you guys... Fox is going to want that Romy money eventually.
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Was there some sort of rumor going around the net that she would? I guess it makes sense... The vast majority of X-Men fans were fans of the animated series... Thinking of Gambit in that context does bring Rogue to mind in the general sense, its kind of natural the common fan would believe Rogue would be in it, in a vacuum (the movie goers actually do exist in a vacuum, no comics, no boards, no bias just nostagia). They haven't seen Gambit in almost 20 years, if you don't count Wolverine origin's or video games. But I didn't think it was getting around enough for this to have to be addressed. I told you guys... Fox is going to want that Romy money eventually.
no, no rumor at all , some fans think you cant have Gambit without Rogue, its his Origin and his Origin is all about Bella.....suppose Remy should be in there too but dont be mistaken peeps this is all about Belladonna
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I've seen fangirls on tumblr straight up get salty at the fact that Rogue wasn't gonna be in the movie. For them when it comes to Gambit, Rogue has to be there too. Otherwise what's the point.
Maybe a new rumor started up when all the stuff with the shoot date getting pushed back came out and they figured that an increased budget must mean that Rogue would be appearing somehow. Which is a huge leap in logic, but I wouldn't put it past someone to go there.
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I've seen fangirls on tumblr straight up get salty at the fact that Rogue wasn't gonna be in the movie. For them when it comes to Gambit, Rogue has to be there too. Otherwise what's the point.
Maybe a new rumor started up when all the stuff with the shoot date getting pushed back came out and they figured that an increased budget must mean that Rogue would be appearing somehow. Which is a huge leap in logic, but I wouldn't put it past someone to go there.
Speaking of a huge leap in logic, they did screw with the timelines so like they said, a lot of characters will be born sooner or later than they were in the original timeline, but we saw a glimpse into where this new timeline ends up and we clearly see Kitty, Colossus (even though he's in Deadpool and I'm starting to believe Deadpool takes place mid 90s), Iceman and yes, Rogue in no more than their early 30s.
So the idea of Rogue being born earlier and getting a new younger actress due to it, is out of the question... From a logical standpoint. In the end Fox may do whatever they want. I still think the only way we get Rogue and other X-Men in a future movie with Gambit being of similar age is time travel. Whether accidental or on purpose.
With the idea of creating their own connected universe ala MCU, Fox is pretty much going to have to handcuff Gambit to the current X-Men movies thus be stuck in the 80s or 90s for quite some time. Perhaps Gambit takes place several years after Apocalypse? But that would invalidate Fox's new young cast. Some of these kids are actually kids and wouldn't be able to pull off being anymore than 19-20 years of age.
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Well, Xavier and mags are both suppose to be like fifty in apocalypse and they're not even trying to make them look older... And if Scott and Jean are teenagers now in 83, then that means they are supposedly like sixty in that 'future' shot (which obviously they don't remotely look like). The biggest age swaps so far have been Emma, angel and jubilee. Now jubilees was only a cameo so we can not count her. But Emma and angel were both 'noticeable' and their ages were completely changed. So they are playing loose with the aging, but it remains to be seen if they switch anyone else.
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Well, Xavier and mags are both suppose to be like fifty in apocalypse and they're not even trying to make them look older... And if Scott and Jean are teenagers now in 83, then that means they are supposedly like sixty in that 'future' shot (which obviously they don't remotely look like). The biggest age swaps so far have been Emma, angel and jubilee. Now jubilees was only a cameo so we can not count her. But Emma and angel were both 'noticeable' and their ages were completely changed. So they are playing loose with the aging, but it remains to be seen if they switch anyone else.
i think in first class they are in their early 20's DOFP late 20's early 30's and in Poccy they are the actors actual age
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I'm warming to the idea that it may be nice if he's not in the same time line as rogue and the others. It may be interesting to explore the character in a new way. His origin was never truely filled out and Fox could change his interactions to match a new team and give us something we haven't seen yet. If well written yes it's a big if it could be a whole new story and miss out the angst of a traditional romy retelling esp Given how badly it ended. And that as a romy fan.
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i think in first class they are in their early 20's DOFP late 20's early 30's and in Poccy they are the actors actual age
Xavier alright, they could say he's really smart and got his Ph.D. at 21-22. Mags though was like ten in WWII, which was twenty years before first class. He has to be pushing thirty. And mystique well they can say she's whatever age they want.
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I wish Tatum would start teasing us fans again like he did with the date of release.
I feel articles on the Internet and some Comic fans are trying to put this film in a negative light before filming even begins.
I want to see him tease the costume or a prop, similar to what Ryan Reynolds did with Deadpool.
I feel keeping quiet too long will be a bad move for this film.
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id say they are trying to get a director first
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id say they are trying to get a director first
Agreed.
Also, according to sources, Rupert Wyatt left the Gambit film due to Channing Tatum wanting more input because he knows how the character would act in certain situations. And Wyatt left due to not having his full vision carried out. I have to say, C-Tates really does love the character. Lol. So the next director better be willing to work with Channing. Hopefully his passion gets carried through in his acting. Lol.
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And lets keep in mind, its early. The shoot has been moved so that Mardi Gras can be used in the background. Its too early gang.
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No reason to show costume right now. Raynolds showed Deadpool costume right before filming.
I hope to hear news bout director soon.
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Agreed.
Also, according to sources, Rupert Wyatt left the Gambit film due to Channing Tatum wanting more input because he knows how the character would act in certain situations. And Wyatt left due to not having his full vision carried out. I have to say, C-Tates really does love the character. Lol. So the next director better be willing to work with Channing. Hopefully his passion gets carried through in his acting. Lol.
really? because the official word from Wyatts spokesperson is that he left due to schedual, filming was pushed to March and he has another film lined up and doesnt have time for the two
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This is a recent article that is being published about the film. Another article that is adding/fuelling to the negativity talk.
I maybe over reacting but it would be nice to see a small tease, like an image of one of Gambit solo comics on a table that may hint at the script or some cards on a table.
Little things like that will tease the fans with excitement, leading up to filming.
It will also peak their interests and keep the film in a positive light.
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I didn't get anything negative from that article. It was all about how Rupert Wyatt has ditched on movies because he's afraid of messing up and making a bad one. THR never said the Gambit movie would be bad, but that studios are hesitant in going for Wyatt's vision when they often already have their own and rather than find a way merge them both, he walks.
He walked away from Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, The Equalizer, and an unrealized movie. Really this situation is not all that different than Edgar Wright leaving Ant-Man. Wright had his vision and Disney had their own. Nothing jived, so he walked.
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http://www.newsarama.com/26107-gambit-director-comments-on-his-departure.html
Direcor Rupert Wyatt has been largely mum about his high-profile exit from 20th Century Fox's Gambit film. Blaming it on scheduling conflicts, Wyatt backed out of the project in mid-September.
Now, speaking to The Hollywood Reporter, Wyatt commented on his departue from Gambit.
"It's not necessarily acrimonious," said Wyatt. "The studios, with these big movies, have very specific visions of what they want. They don't necessarily want an auteur who's going to try to reinvent the franchise. Of course the studios would love it if a director did what they want, when they want, but it doesn't always work out."
According to the article from THR, Wyatt was reluctant to sign
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So it's the start of the new James Bond interviews. I'm sure Lea will be asked a few questions about Gambit.
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http://www.newsarama.com/26107-gambit-director-comments-on-his-departure.html
Does this not bother anybody else? Fox has a horrible reputation for meddling in it's films to the point that the director just gives up and makes a piece of trash, if they don't walk before filming. I'm really hoping they don't ruin Gambit, and F4 as an indicator does not bode well.
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Matthew Vaughn left DOFP and that movie turned out fine. F4 failed because the director was a tool. Not because Fox studios said he was but because the entire cast has said so. At one point there were reports he and Miles Teller almost got into a fist fight. So I wouldn't use F4 as any sort of indicator of things unless the Gambit film ends up with a director that is also a tool.
Further, no studio is going to help bankroll a $100 million film and not meddle. Would you turn over that kind of money to someone and not have any input into the process. At the end of the day, the studio is going to have a vision and the director is going to have a vision, and Tatum is going to have a vision, etc. The trick is to have people involved that can balance all the different ideas and make it work. That's how it is on all films and better to find out now that a Director may not be on the same page as the studio or the star rather than after filming starts.
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/10/12/nycc-2015-bryan-cranston-reveals-the-marvel-villain-he-wants-to-play?utm_source=IGN%20hub%20page&utm_medium=Movies&utm_content=3&utm_campaign=Blogroll
Bryan Cranston would love to play Mr. Sinister. Not sure where the movie is at right now but who knows. LOL. It's just a fun short article.
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...that would be to awesome to actually happen...
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I never thought about him as Sinister but he is really good actor so I would like it.
He would perform amazing transformaion from Essex to Sinister.
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if he could pull off an upper class British accent the sure, but fox should jump on this and get him hired before Marvel get him for something else out of spite
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I like him but I still would prefer Jason Isaccs in the role.
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if he could pull off an upper class British accent the sure, but fox should jump on this and get him hired before Marvel get him for something else out of spite
If they could get Cranston to be an overarching villain to start with Gambit and then move over to x movie they would be idiots not to -it is fox- so I guess anything is possible. He doesn't even need a british accent, for me that's something a redone Sinister doesn't actually have to have unless it's decided as the top way to go.
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RUMOR: Channing Tatum Courting Director Doug Liman For 'Gambit'
http://heroichollywood.com/home-1/2015/10/18/rumor-channing-tatum-courting-director-doug-liman-for-gambit
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Oceans Eleven... Nice. Can we mix Limen and Soderbergh and turn Gambit into a Ocean's Eleven- Bourne Identity hybrid?
I swear Fox and Marvel troll out boards...
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I swear Fox and Marvel troll out boards...
I thought the same)
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I swear Fox and Marvel troll out boards...
I for one, have no doubt :)
add: this def sounds like the person I would feel comfortable with directing a Gambit origin film esp if it does have a high budget. Great record for doing very solid stuff in this realm
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The Top 3 Contenders To Direct 'Gambit'
Along with Liman, the other two contenders are Attack The Block's Joe Cornish and Iron Man 3's Shane Black.
http://heroichollywood.com/home-1/2015/10/22/the-top-3-contenders-to-direct-gambit
I hope they will get Liman.
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any of those 3 would be awesome Black would touch up the script and he knows how to do action
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The Girl on the Train (starring former Bella candidate Rebecca Ferguson and released by Disney *ahem*) is opening opposite Gambit, if it stays on the intended release date.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2015/10/28/disney-pits-emily-blunt-rebecca-ferguson-thriller-girl-on-the-train-vs-channing-tatums-gambit/
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That no good swamp witch. ;). I heard Disney moved Alice 2 up against apocalypse, the mouse is getting ornery...
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That no good swamp witch. ;). I heard Disney moved Alice 2 up against apocalypse, the mouse is getting ornery...
haha Alice 2 will fail the first one was dire
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I didn't even know a sequel was being made. Honestly, the first was too weird for kids and too childish for adults, if that makes sense.
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I hope when they release new news or updates with the Gambit film, I hope they announce some casting first and the new director.
If the next bit of news is the film has been moved to 2017, that's another update the media and fans are going to make negative about the film.
I wish someone from Fox or even Tatum himself would talk about Gambit or start teasing us with a photo.
Start bringing some positive news and excitement to the film.
Keeping quiet I feel will harm the production of this film while in pre-production.
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I think it's almost certain the release date gets moved as they pushed filming back to March 2015 which makes it highly unlikely for an October 2016 release. I would think Christmas 2016 is the earliest it can be released by more than likely it's probably going to be March 2017
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I wouldn't put it past them to put it in Fantastic Four 2's spot and just quietly cancel FF2.
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haha Alice 2 will fail the first one was dire
Dante, just want you to know I'm probably stealing this for future poetic phrasory, possibily word for word :). First part, like the assonance but will obviously need to change it.
As for the movie I'm quite happy to let it go back burner for a bit, SPECTRE's first sequence is supposed to be one of the best scenes in all of Bondage so let's hope they can use the time to really make some beautiful mardi gras shots esp as we wont look for a Remy return to Orleans til a 3rd movie at the earliest. Plus more time to work on the script.
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http://www.superherohype.com/news/358573-edge-of-tomorrow-director-to-helm-gambit-movie
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Hopefully this doesn't fall through... This movie could use some good news
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appareantly according to CBR and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvcRdDvb8A8 Lea Seydoux has not signed on for Gambit.......but according to my sources, which is me in a hat...she will
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She was probably about to sign and then Wyatt left. But rather than write it off completely she kept it on the table (so to speak). She was probably just waiting for another director to sign on and now that Liman is close she'll probably go for it.
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She was probably about to sign and then Wyatt left. But rather than write it off completely she kept it on the table (so to speak). She was probably just waiting for another director to sign on and now that Liman is close she'll probably go for it.
Liman Liman Liman Liman Liman!
I'm really excited that after all this, we MIGHT get the man that made first Bourne Identity and Edge of Tomorrow.. Two of my favorite movies of all time. Yes, Edge of Tomorrow ranks up there despite its newness.
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So it's not even confirmed yet? More Hollywood rumors?
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So it's not even confirmed yet? More Hollywood rumors?
Confirmed? Hell no. They are in the "courting stage". No ones attached, but Liman is one of Tatum's top targets. Which is still awesome in my book. Not to mention he's been brought up in several Hollywood podcasts I listen to. Wheres there is smoke... But it might die down just as quick as it sparks.
Fun fact... Limen also directed Mr and Mrs Smith as well as Jumper. A lot of people didn't like Jumper, I thought it had potential and the scope of the story was awesome, though the lead actor could have been better.
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Liman/ Fox close to inking deal for Gambit movie
https://youtu.be/LCbIA0eIt5I
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http://comicbook.com/2015/11/16/channing-tatums-gambit-described-as-heist-movie-and-sexy-thrille/
All but official now for Liman and now we finally start getting the movie going. Loving the fact that Channing Tatum really does love the character and I think with everyone feeling that superhero movie fatigue, the fact he is going with a heist/thriller flick. It's just what we need. It's a winning formula i.e. White Collar.
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Sounds a good start for the character. It suits him and is the perfect way to introduce him to a new audience.
I'm curious if this is the start of Mr.Sinister. Gambit is stealing something for a reason.
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Sounds a good start for the character. It suits him and is the perfect way to introduce him to a new audience.
I'm curious if this is the start of Mr.Sinister. Gambit is stealing something for a reason.
If they go the Sinister route I hope Cranston gets the role. He actually wants it. Even if its a different actor portraying Sinister to start, it'd be awesome to see him shapeshift and reveal Cranston as his true form. My wish is that they ground the character as much as possible, don't call him Mr Sinister, but Essex or his whole name if he starts out as a supporting character and not the "big bad".
Sinister isn't a throw away villain. He should be able to stick around and cross over back and forth throughout the franchises. I have high hopes. I just hope the script is good and not forcing too much synergy amongst the shared universe like Marvel is starting to do.
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Everything sounds really good so far :D
I hope they will announse Liman soon
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I'd be happy with a heist, sexy thriller type film. That works for Gambit quite well, imo.
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also might be pushed back to 2017
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also might be pushed back to 2017
Make sense, if they are planning on shooting in February to May then work on post-production stuff we could be seeing it getting the same slot deadpool is getting this February
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt82scj6qcc#t=2797
46:40 about Gambit movie. They heard that script is fantastic. The character is fun so they do not want it to be really dark movie.
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Well thank god, I feel like people arent really happy about this movie for a few reasons, one of which not having rogue in it, cause lord knows we cant have something for just the gambit fans and that there are other x-men that deserve it more then Remy....WHICH THEY ARE WRONG
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Well those two sentiments come from similar sources. The vast majority of people that hear that Gambit's getting a movie, but are disappointed about not having Rogue in it are the 90s fans; the fans that started reading because of the show (small minority), and those who never read but love the X-Men because of the show (the vast majority). The small voices yelling in the crowd "he doesnt deserve a movie" stem from the same fans that didn't like that he was in the show over the likes of Iceman, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Dazzler and Kitty. They have younger acolytes that echo their sentiments, and sadly a few of these became writers who did their own thing, despite a lot of negative fan reaction (a lot of the more damning things they'd do to Gambit would be eventually fixed by the following writer or flat retconned by the editors). In the end it's all very small in terms of the amount of people that will ultimately see the film(s). All they do is piss off producers via cyber harassment, and spook studio types that put too much emphasis on the anonymous internet reaction. Take "Edge of Tomorrow" for example. It turned out to be one of the best movies of the year, but was nearly a financial failure due to preconceptions.
End of the day, its an X-Men movie with a recognizable character being played by an a-lister, directed by a man that has several franchise worthy hits under his belt. It'll be OK.
*I edited because of to some grammar issues and unclear thoughts. Sorry, my phone has a mind of its own and I sometimes possess clumsy thumbs!
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If they go the Sinister route I hope Cranston gets the role. He actually wants it. Even if its a different actor portraying Sinister to start, it'd be awesome to see him shapeshift and reveal Cranston as his true form. My wish is that they ground the character as much as possible, don't call him Mr Sinister, but Essex or his whole name if he starts out as a supporting character and not the "big bad".
Sinister isn't a throw away villain. He should be able to stick around and cross over back and forth throughout the franchises. I have high hopes. I just hope the script is good and not forcing too much synergy amongst the shared universe like Marvel is starting to do.
That Sinister shapeshifter idea has some sweetness. I mean, ideally it's time for Fox to stop following Marvel very soon from now, after AoA what's really left? I mean except to sign a deal with Marvel where the Avengers get beat down? :)
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I mean except to sign a deal with Marvel where the Avengers get beat down? :)
Noooo we cant have that because everyone will cry "Avengers can totally kick the x-men a$$es"
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Don-yeah, general movie/cartoon fans don't really care about a lot of the stuff in the comics. Because honestly, some of it doesn't make sense or is just too 'wierd' and sometimes had cover art that they wouldn't be caught dead holding. ;). They don't know about gambit getting shafted by a string of writers who hated the 'the 90's'. or that rogue got favored because she was a more 'classic' character, who they all wanted to hook up their 'favorite' character. Even if they did know, they'd likely say ' well don't use that in the movie because it's dumb anyway' 'make it more like the cartoon because that was 'better''
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Liman directing, Seydoux Belladonna!
https://youtu.be/l9rN_ECK0Uk
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I haven't seen this news anywhere else, so either there's an announcement planned later this week and Collider jumped the gun or nothing is official still and Collider jumped the gun.
Kids, this is a friendly reminder to always get double confirmation, that's what I'm waiting for.
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I hope we will get the same news but official soon
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I hope we will get the same news but official soon
The guys at Collider dont say something is "official" if it's not. They dont even report on the BleedingCool stuff until after its official or been shot down. Not to mention they headlined the episode with the News.
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I liked this video and I understand that they know more than we ;)
I am just glad that Liman is gonna be a new director and hope to hear smth new soon. I would love some concept art but I doubt it is possible
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I want to hear some more casting news. It will give us a glimpse in to what characters/story we can expect.
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I would love to hear what they are gonna do with his eyes.
Also remember that Ismahawk interview about Gambit web series? I can`t find any update on this :(
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I would love to hear what they are gonna do with his eyes.
Also remember that Ismahawk interview about Gambit web series? I can`t find any update on this :(
Brother from another mother, thats been my question Purp. Traditional red on black? 100% CGI? 50/50? Red contacts? Any shimmering?
My biggest concern right now is Fox. I keep hearing that the script is awesome, but if Fox doesnt let Liman make the movie he wants, he may walk. The fact that it's gotten this far means he and studio have probably reached some common ground. I dont have a problem waiting a bit longer for a good movie, however, I too would like more casting and plot news. I wonder what the costume is going to look like? Any guesses, wishes? Personally, I want a more grounded approach. Clay Mann's design would fit the best IMO.
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My first thought was no way they will do red/black eyes all the time.
But look at Deadpool. It seems he will be with burned skin in movie much longer then with normal.
It would be awesome if Liman would be able to make red eyes work for sexy thriller. Mayve they need to change the contrast of eyes through movie, like very red/slightly red but still red
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My first thought was no way they will do red/black eyes all the time.
But look at Deadpool. It seems he will be with burned skin in movie much longer then with normal.
It would be awesome if Liman would be able to make red eyes work for sexy thriller. Mayve they need to change the contrast of eyes through movie, like very red/slightly red but still red
As far as I can see they have options:
1. Red and Black (practical) - This can be done through the use of a full eye contact. Only issue is, they can be very uncomfortable for the actor.
2. Red and Black (CGI) - The can render the eyes to be red and black. Probably wont look the best though.
3. Red and Black (50/50) - A red contact and render the whites of his eyes to black via CGI. In terms of the look, it can go either way.
4. Red and White- Just have red eyes via contacts. It grounds the movie, doesnt take away attention from Tatum's money maker (his face lol)
5. Plain ol eyes, only red in flashes during action scenes (similar to how they worked Storm in the movies)
Once they figure out what they are going to do with the eyes, the next question is, how are they going to treat them. He cant very well walk around in broad daylight in full Gambit glory. The 5th option plays well with this reality. To save on plot holes and Tatum's eyes while staying true to Gambit, they can say his eyes are truly Red on Black but GAMBIT (the character) is wearing special full eye contacts that make his eyes appear to be normal. They can save Tatum (the actor) from wearing the uncomfortable lens' all the time, only having them in possibly at the beginning, a small section in the middle and at the end during the movies climax for whatever final showdown or endgame they may have planned, where he will have lost his coat, his clothes are all torn to shreds, his staff is broken and he's all out of cards (much to the delight of female fandom). If all goes according to plan and Liman is allowed to make a movie he wants, we may have the "Captain America: Winter Soldier" equivalent for Fox's X-Men line.
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I can think of a movie that was done during the early 2000s where there were a bit of a drastic change the the eyes, anyone remember the live action Grinch movie? I'm sure what they might do in for Remy's eyes is do contacts in close up shots, and do digital from far away shots
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Pretending he has fake contacts in most of the time would be easiest and work the best. Because, yes the Full contacts are painfully and CGI would probably end up with a 'dead eyes ' bad animation look.
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He may were sunglasses from time to time. I think eyes need to be painted in the way not to annoy viewers.
I always liked white Riddick eyes in movies. I think such effect may work the best.
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his eyes are red on black so his eyes should look black and glow red when in the shadows or darkness or if they want when he is using his powers, when you think about it you can never tell what an actors or actress's eye colors are in a film unless its a close up shot , we know they have eyes but unless we focus in we don't know or care what color they are, so Gambit should have red on black his eyball should look black
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He may were sunglasses from time to time. I think eyes need to be painted in the way not to annoy viewers.
I always liked white Riddick eyes in movies. I think such effect may work the best.
If they don't pretend that Gambit's wearing contact to disguise his eyes, then yeah I think we'll have two to a handful of scenes where Gambit is wearing shades during public scenes in daylight.
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http://www.ign.com/videos/2015/11/21/were-looking-forward-to-gambit-despite-its-problems-the-superhero-show?utm_source=IGN%20hub%20page&utm_medium=IGN%20(front%20page)&utm_content=1&utm_campaign=Blogroll
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http://www.ign.com/videos/2015/11/21/were-looking-forward-to-gambit-despite-its-problems-the-superhero-show?utm_source=IGN%20hub%20page&utm_medium=IGN%20(front%20page)&utm_content=1&utm_campaign=Blogroll
Aside from him being my favorite X-Man, I'm looking forward to it for a lot of reasons I'm so looking forward to Deadpool. The "super hero" genre can really be any genre. And this will be something new. Maybe not to the extent of Deadpool "new," but still fresh from the hum drum super hero stuff.
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Aside from him being my favorite X-Man, I'm looking forward to it for a lot of reasons I'm so looking forward to Deadpool. The "super hero" genre can really be any genre. And this will be something new. Maybe not to the extent of Deadpool "new," but still fresh from the hum drum super hero stuff.
I agree. While I understand the comparison with Ant Man, I think Gambit is in the element of a heist/thief type. That is the neat thing about "super hero" film, it can be anything.
Dracula The Untold Story - good, bad or indifferent. It was taking a classic horror type character and making him a hero while still keeping to his "dark" roots as it were.
I think the sexy thriller part is what will set the film apart or at least I think it should set it apart.
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I'm starting to wonder if this film will ever be released...
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I'm starting to wonder if this film will ever be released...
Why? Because it got pushed back a year or actually a few months?
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I think we will hear more about Gambit movie, director and release date om December 4th at Comic-Con.
Everything will be fine ;)
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Check out a recent photo of Tatum, he's slimmed right down. :gambit:
http://m.publimetro.pe/movil/entretenimiento/noticia-channing-tatum-finalmente-compartio-foto-su-estancia-peru-40277
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Check out a recent photo of Tatum, he's slimmed right down. :gambit:
http://m.publimetro.pe/movil/entretenimiento/noticia-channing-tatum-finalmente-compartio-foto-su-estancia-peru-40277
He looks like Ryan Reynolds :)
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Wow he sure did. Looks real young too. LOL
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It is 4 months until Gambit filming and he is already so slim. Hmm, maybe he is gonna be in Apocalypse reshoots?
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He looks good!
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http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/anna-paquin-wants-to-come-back-for-more-x-men-movies-if-it-makes-sense aaaaaaaaaaaaaand que the she's going to be in Gambit or put her in Gambit talk
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http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/anna-paquin-wants-to-come-back-for-more-x-men-movies-if-it-makes-sense aaaaaaaaaaaaaand que the she's going to be in Gambit or put her in Gambit talk
Never liked her as Rogue
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Slow news days to rehash this stuff. LOL
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more of the same "And lastly, Kinberg gave an update on the hunt for a director for "Gambit," which was kicked off when previous director Rupert Wyatt left the project. "That we have a director in and I don’t know if I’m allowed to say who it is yet because his deal isn’t done, but it’s somebody we’re excited about, and somebody I adore, and hopefully we can make an announcement soon about that. But we’ve been spending a lot of time together -- Channing, [Reid Carolin, Tatum’s producing partner], [screenwriter Joshua Zetumer], the director, and myself -- just working on the script, and we hope to start shooting next spring." With the speed bump, "Gambit's" October 2016 release date will also most likely be bumped back, Kinberg said. "Unless we were to accelerate, it would be really hard to make that date."
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/kinberg-gives-new-mutants-update-teases-apocalypses-comic-connection
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http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/anna-paquin-wants-to-come-back-for-more-x-men-movies-if-it-makes-sense aaaaaaaaaaaaaand que the she's going to be in Gambit or put her in Gambit talk
I really like Paquin's character and professionalism. She means what she says. I also follow her on twitter and she appears to be one of the most well balanced former kid actors. People make scenarios on her simple statement that she will return IF there is a reason to return and do not consider the rest of the statement which shows her character and her professionalism.
I have seen recently the Rogue cut and I completely agree that the movie was better without her in storytelling terms. However, she could have been written from the beginning as part of the "old team", but thats another discussion.
I have also been disappointed with how Rogue has been portrayed but its not Paquins fault. Its how it has been written. She can do kickass if need be.
PS: Long time no see Guild, being busy with getting used to Germany and PhD research... :)
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I have also been disappointed with how Rogue has been portrayed but its not Paquins fault. Its how it has been written. She can do kickass if need be.
PS: Long time no see Guild, being busy with getting used to Germany and PhD research... :)
i too agree i feel bad for her and Rogue fans the character got a bad showing in the films, the character never grew or had a good character arc , all she was was a plot point like after the first movie what was the point of her?
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Her part in X-Men 2 was not bad. It showed some growth. she was more confident and dating Iceman.
X3 ruined her...
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Her part in X-Men 2 was not bad. It showed some growth. she was more confident and dating Iceman.
X3 ruined her...
Who didnt X3 ruin?
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Hmmm...beast? He was kinda a bright spot in the whole movie.
CBR's news bot does pick random stuff sometimes.
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Hmmm...beast? He was kinda a bright spot in the whole movie.
CBR's news bot does pick random stuff sometimes.
Tru dat. Perfect casting with Kelsey Grammer
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http://youtu.be/tKARMYp-ml4
2.40 mark Tatum does a Cajun Accent :D
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http://youtu.be/tKARMYp-ml4
2.40 mark Tatum does a Cajun Accent :D
I have to say. He pretty much effin' rocked it. And he held it too. Goodness. Channing is spoiling me this Christmas. Haha.
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Wasn't as bad as I thought. I hope he has it locked down before shooting begins, but it doest sound silly. He's been working on it.
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Wasn't as bad as I thought. I hope he has it locked down before shooting begins, but it doest sound silly. He's been working on it.
He has definitely improved since the SDCC snippet.
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bits sound Jamaican lol but it sounds good
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I can see results of his training :) Sounds good to me.
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bits sound Jamaican lol but it sounds good
Actually being Jamaican, I'm going to have to disagree. If I had to compare it to a Caribbean island... I'd say Bahamian or Virigin Island.
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I'm Bahamian and I would say it didn't sound too Bahamian to me. I thought the second sentence he got a little Jamaican but for the most part I would say it sounded like people from Louisiana even if it wasn't full on Cajun.
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I'm Bahamian and I would say it didn't sound too Bahamian to me. I thought the second sentence he got a little Jamaican but for the most part I would say it sounded like people from Louisiana even if it wasn't full on Cajun.
I dunno... I have a few friends from Bimini, that say "Tru" rather than "through" (and actually my dad's side of the family is from Cat isle, but he's born and raised in Opalocka MIA, so it doest count LOL), but maybe he'd have to add "boy" at the end ;). And remember, I said "if I had to", which means I wouldn't say it sounds Caribbean at all, at least not my first comparison. It just didn't sound Jamaican at all to me. With my wife and her family being from Mo-Bay and mine from St Elizabeth/Kingston, I'm fairly saturated in the accent LOL.
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Nah I hear you. It was just that second line of his that had a faint hint of Jamaican to me but yeah I suppose it's probably a situation where for me it would sound a but Jamaican and for you a but Bahamian because for both of us we don't think it sounds like the accent we are most familiar with.
I am more surprised that all this time and it didn't come up before that we both have Caribbean connections. I was born in Freeport and grew up in Nassau. I came to the US for college and bounced between living in the US and Europe ever since. Actually just landed back in the Bahamas for Christmas as all my family is still here.
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Nah I hear you. It was just that second line of his that had a faint hint of Jamaican to me but yeah I suppose it's probably a situation where for me it would sound a but Jamaican and for you a but Bahamian because for both of us we don't think it sounds like the accent we are most familiar with.
I am more surprised that all this time and it didn't come up before that we both have Caribbean connections. I was born in Freeport and grew up in Nassau. I came to the US for college and bounced between living in the US and Europe ever since. Actually just landed back in the Bahamas for Christmas as all my family is still here.
Both my wife's and I family are all stateside now. Any of our family get together occur here in Miami with acceptation of my uncle in Houston and aunt in Brooklyn. But, yeah that makes sense. I'm just glad the accent he's working on is further along and a bit more developed than what I had thought. For a while I thought he'd just pull a Halle Berry in X2 and just 86 it altogether. But its thick enough where I can almost picture him using it full time.
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Just watched "The Hateful Eight." Tatum damn sure has been practicing his Cajun.
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Just watched "The Hateful Eight." Tatum damn sure has been practicing his Cajun.
one of the worst films i've ever seen but Tatum was very good in it
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It definitely wasn't one of Tarantino's better films but I didn't think it was horrible. And yeah, Tatum did give a really good performance.
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Walton Goggins is in that, right? Ever since Justified I've been mildly obsessed.
But yeah, if it's got Channing playing a Cajun I may just have to see it!
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Walton Goggins is in that, right? Ever since Justified I've been mildly obsessed.
But yeah, if it's got Channing playing a Cajun I may just have to see it!
Yeah, he's in it. He sure plays some great douchebags.
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So Fox is making an X-Force film. I'm assuming colousses and who appears in Deadpool is part of that team. Do you expect someone from X-Force to appear in Gambit?
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So Fox is making an X-Force film. I'm assuming colousses and who appears in Deadpool is part of that team. Do you expect someone from X-Force to appear in Gambit?
The idea's been floating around for a while now. There's a script or 2. A director. Nothing official though. It all depends on what takes place in what time line really. I feel like X-force will take place in the preset day with Deadpool. Until we find out when Gambit takes place for certain, we won' know.
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Here's some concept art. But I agree until more details come out, we won't know much of anything.
I suppose Fox could taking the Avengers approach and make all these characters intertwine in some way with the solo films and stuff.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/concept-art-hints-potential-x-force-movie-lineup
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The idea's been floating around for a while now. There's a script or 2. A director. Nothing official though. It all depends on what takes place in what time line really. I feel like X-force will take place in the preset day with Deadpool. Until we find out when Gambit takes place for certain, we won' know.
I don't think Deadpool is "present day". I keep hearing music and seeing props that place it in the 90s. But that could always be Deadpool's qwerkiness because I did see NSW with touch screen phone... So my post is pointless.
But if it is present day, I think that may be the reason Tatum wasn't in Apocalypse. Because that would force Gambit to be in that timeline. I'm sure if Deadpool is going to be the hit Fox wants it to be, they are going to want to cross him over with other potential hits. I was getting used to Gambit being in the early 90s but I'm cool with a present day take. It gives the opportunity to see him alongside a proper X-Men team.
I'd be kind of surprised because it means one of two things; 1. The current younger cast thats portraying the X-Men will only have this movie that's coming out, and then they'll be recast for older characters or just replcaed with the former cast, Femke, Berry, etc. 2. The next couple X-Men films will be set in the past while, Gambit, Deadpool, and X-Force take place in the present. That could get confusing to the general audience.
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I don't think Deadpool is "present day". I keep hearing music and seeing props that place it in the 90s. But that could always be Deadpool's qwerkiness because I did see NSW with touch screen phone... So my post is pointless.
Deadpool is set in the present day, never go by music in trailers, like you said NSW has a touchscreen phone, the vehicles are present day vehicles, he mentions tweeting and shake weight , plus Reynolds has stated its set in the present day as has the director along with a tidbit that Wade Wilson pre Deadpool will not break the 4th wall
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Deadpool is set in the present day, never go by music in trailers, like you said NSW has a touchscreen phone, the vehicles are present day vehicles, he mentions tweeting and shake weight , plus Reynolds has stated its set in the present day as has the director along with a tidbit that Wade Wilson pre Deadpool will not break the 4th wall
Not the trailer music, Deadpool was singing "shoop" (Salt n Peppa, around 95ish?) off of a Sony Walkman... When was the last time you heard that song or seen a Walkman LOL.
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Could see deadpool having prolonged flashbacks (cuz he doesn't age, right?) so some '90's scenes, so present day.
I'd rather have gambit in the present day than stuck in a period piece (I'd also like that rest of the x peeps back in the present time ;D ) Seriously Xavier and mags 'aged' twenty years in the the past trilogy and they didn't even bother with age make up. Do the same thing with the 'x-kids'.
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Not the trailer music, Deadpool was singing "shoop" (Salt n Peppa, around 95ish?) off of a Sony Walkman... When was the last time you heard that song or seen a Walkman LOL.
He's not exactly the wealthiest of people lol. Plus he tells Negasonic Teenage Warhead to finish her tweet in the trailer.
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He's not exactly the wealthiest of people lol. Plus he tells Negasonic Teenage Warhead to finish her tweet in the trailer.
Yes, I mentioned that and how it made my post unnecessary. LOL
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McAvoy is gonna stay as prof X so I don`t think that new X kids will be recasted for future movies with older cast. I would like Gambit solo to be in moder day with Deadpool but I think solo will take place after Apocalypse and before new X-Men trilogy.
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Just an interesting article. Nothing new
‘Gambit’ Release Ultimately Being Pushed Back To 2017
http://www.omegaunderground.com/2016/01/01/gambit-ultimately-pushing-back-release-date-to-at-least-2017/
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I hope they release news after news soon with the casting.
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Ugh they should be starting to shoot within the next few weeks since they wanted the Mardi gras to work in since that's the 9th of next month
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It is frustrating not knowing any news on the film. Mardi Gras starts from late January to February right?
If that is the case I would expect them to announce more casting in the next week or so.
I hope nothing bad is happening with the film.
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Strange. I do not know why but I thought they will start shooting in March.
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Could just be exterior shots of the parade. Now I know to take IMDB with a pinch of salt because it's not always accurate, but I noticed they haven't got the cinematographer listed yet in the crew list.
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Well, if they want to get it out by next Jan or Feb then they need to get moving!
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I remembered.
In previous interview Kinberg told: "We hope to start shooting next spring."
http://collider.com/gambit-movie-heist-film-sexy-thriller-channing-tatum/
So I doubt that shooting will start in January or February :(
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Mardi Gras doesn't have a set date each year--this year it's on February 9. If it's supposed to start shooting in spring, then I would think March. If they're doing a Mardi Gras scene, then I'd say mid/late January.
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New Update
Now that Channing Tatum superhero vehicle and X-Men spinoff film Gambit has a director again, and its star its officially locked in, the project is full steam ahead and still scheduled for an October release.
Speaking to Empire Magazine, producer Simon Kinberg describes Gambit as “a sexy PG-13 heist film,” and says that Tatum will be drawing inspiration from the comics he loves.
“Channing is a big fan of the comic,” Kinberg says, “so the accent, the attitude, the costume in many way, will be in the film. And he’s a character with a complex backstory – we’re playing him as a thief in the film, and that’s a big part of the story.”
Gambit’s had a number of costumes in the comics, so it will be interesting to see how they translate that to film. We’re assuming that, if they’re playing him as a thief, the bright pink breastplate and metal boots will be toned down a bit.
As for Gambit’s backstory, Kinberg may say “complex,” but “convoluted” may be more accurate. Remy’s origin involves rival guild’s vying for favor with an X-Ternal, some kind of godlike, immortal mutant. It’s a bit much for a heist film.
However, if they do want to go the heist route, they should really look towards the most recent Gambit solo comic for inspiration. Written by James Asmus, the series was basically a mutant version of the Thomas Crown Affair.
I hope it's not all based on the new Gambit Stories, they are too squeaky clean. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed them but I would prefer to hear about Sinister and the mutant massacre. I want Gambit to be slight gritty and dark in tone but with light bits. After all he grew up in and around the underworld.
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Interesting to see Gambit costume. I think they will use X-treme X-men headsock(half of head covered) + Mann`s purple suit+trenchcoat.
I hope they will make eyes red/black.
Surprised that movie is still scheduled for an October release.
Sinister is a must be. Even is it is just a cameo as Essex.
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I hope it's not all based on the new Gambit Stories, they are too squeaky clean. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed them but I would prefer to hear about Sinister and the mutant massacre. I want Gambit to be slight gritty and dark in tone but with light bits. After all he grew up in and around the underworld.
Its still possible for Sinister to play a part, even if its small. The fact that hes a shape-shifter helps, he can be anybody, but I doubt it with approach they are taking in this one "sexy heist film". The massacre would be nothing but a total mess for this project. This is practically the first time audiences will be seeing Gambit outside of the Origins. The massacre story line would dominate the whole movie, which means no room to set Gambit's world and the supporting characters that make it up. A sequel, following a team movie, that helps put the parts in play may be more realistic (like Age of Ultron set up Cap: Civil War), but in the end I seriously doubt we'll see a Gambit movie based on the
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New Update
I hope it's not all based on the new Gambit Stories, they are too squeaky clean. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed them but I would prefer to hear about Sinister and the mutant massacre. I want Gambit to be slight gritty and dark in tone but with light bits. After all he grew up in and around the underworld.
its got Belladonna in it so i doubt itll be based on the recent comics although it might take inspiration from them , its a sexy heist thriller i highly doubt its going to be dark and gritty in tone, itll probably be more like Oceans 11
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Is anyone concerned that this is being made to be a pg13 film? In so far as it may limit the films options?
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Is anyone concerned that this is being made to be a pg13 film? In so far as it may limit the films options?
I was disappointed to see that,
but profits-wise it makes more sense.
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PG 13 is exactly what Gambit movie needs. It can be dark movie even with such rating. I think Suicide Squad is a PG 13 movie
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Is anyone concerned that this is being made to be a pg13 film? In so far as it may limit the films options?
What do you mean limit? Deadpool is the only modern comic book movie made above pg13, other than Blade, the Sin City movies and Watchmen but none are really considered "modern" to me... The books are written along the lines of PG13, why would they need to exceed that to make it good? I think PG13 is just fine.
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For a Gambit film a PG13 works out fine for me. I would not expect it to be anything else when it comes to the rating.
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Deadpool is the only superhero movie that needs to be R rated. What were people expecting out of Gambit? Naked Channing Tatum?
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X-men Days of Future Past was a 12A
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Deadpool is the only superhero movie that needs to be R rated. What were people expecting out of Gambit? Naked Channing Tatum?
I am sure there are some who expecting naked Tatum in Gambit. No one asked for naked Wolverine in DOFP but he was there.
But I would like to see naked Psylocke in Apocalypse :P
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Collider talks about Gambit movie progress
https://youtu.be/4oSZE_KrhYo
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I still can't see the film release as October 2016. It has to be moved to 2017.
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It will definitely be pushed back. Fox just hasn't announced it yet as they are most likely trying to finalize the new release date as they not only need to fit it in they overall movie schedule but also consider what other movies are being released in 2017 as they likely want it to be the big headline movie whichever week it is released.
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This was my post over in CBR. Just a theorized timeline of coming X-Men movies
Deadpool (feb)
X-Men Apocalypse (may)
Gambit (early - mid 2017)
Wolverine: Old Man Logan (March 2017)
X-Force (late 2017 - early 2018)
X-Men: Untitled (2018) <---- might include Gambit
Deapool 2 (late 2017 - 2018) <---- Deadpool was filmed fairly quick, might be able to do another before 18'.
Gambit 2 (early - mid 2019)
Gambit might even be as far down as June 2017 IMO.
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This was my post over in CBR. Just a theorized timeline of coming X-Men movies
Deadpool (feb)
X-Men Apocalypse (may)
Gambit (early - mid 2017)
X-Force (late 2017 - early 2018)
X-Men: Untitled (2018) <---- might include Gambit
Deapool 2 (late 2017 - 2018) <---- Deadpool was filmed fairly quick, might be able to do another before 18'.
Gambit 2 (early - mid 2019)
Gambit might even be as far down as June 2017 IMO.
Need to add Wolverine 3 and New Mutants.
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Need to add Wolverine 3 and New Mutants.
Forgot about Wolverine or Old Man Logan... When did they plan to premier that?
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Forgot about Wolverine or Old Man Logan... When did they plan to premier that?
March 03, 2017
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has Deadpool 2 or Gambit 2 even been confirmed yet?
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They wanna do Deadpool 2, but it's too soon to say if we will get a Gambit 2.
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has Deadpool 2 or Gambit 2 even been confirmed yet?
Just a theorized timeline of coming X-Men movies
No. Just playing possible schedules if everything goes according to plan or wishes.
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A lot of tweets about Tatum`s Gambit hair ;D.
Some are not very good :(
Example
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/entertainthis/2016/01/10/channing-tatums-golden-globes-hair-everything-wrong-world/78605600/
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From what I heard the Wolverine film is likely ahead of Gambit in the release schedule now since it will be Jackman's final hurrah. So I think that's the problem right now March 2017 is likely pegged for Wolverine and they probably don't want both it and Gambit coming out close to each other so the question is does Gambit move to Summer 2017 or later to do they put Gambit in March 2017 and move Wolverine back.
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I think they'll move Wolverine back. It's a bit of a risk to drop a movie like Gambit in the Summer when all the really big blockbusters are coming out. GOTG Vol. 2 and Star Wars Episode VIII are coming out in May. Can you see Gambit making any money when it has to go against those two?
The safe bet is to put Wolverine against those movies because it's already established as a series, as well as the fact that there's a lot riding on Gambit compared to Wolverine 3. Fox wants Channing Tatum to become either one of the new leads or the main lead for the X-Men films and if Gambit doesn't work that might not happen. Wolverine 3 is just meant to close the book on Hugh Jackman's character, the previous lead of the X-Men films.
Another option is to move one of them into September 2017, because there's nothing there except for a LEGO film about those stupid Ninjago figures.
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A lot of tweets about Tatum`s Gambit hair ;D.
Some are not very good :(
Example
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/entertainthis/2016/01/10/channing-tatums-golden-globes-hair-everything-wrong-world/78605600/
Yeah, he needs a stylist or a haircut or a shampoo or SOMETHING.
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Well that's just it I don't think they necessarily want either film to be in the Summer hence why I said Summer 2017 or later so the question becomes which one to move and where.
They also need to make sure a film isn't sitting in post production for too long as if both shoot in the Spring, then that will be well over a year in post for whichever film gets moved. I would be surprised either that if both end up shooting close to each other that they may cameo in each others films. So a lot for Fox to think about before announcing dates.
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Yeah, he needs a stylist or a haircut or a shampoo or SOMETHING.
LMAO at that last comment but seriously it looks stupid ....head sock confirmed
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LMAO at that last comment but seriously it looks stupid ....head sock confirmed
It's not the final product guys. Its not like the photo was taken off of the set or something. They havent even done principle, much less nailed down a shoot sight. I'm sure he's growing it (his hair) out so that it can be styled in the manner in which the role requires. Remember, Gambit's gone through several hair styles over the years. We dont know if the movie will take place in one era and transcend forward in the future or just be contained within a single day.
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Collider crew talks Gambit: https://youtu.be/jtV-ldj1Jdw
According to a source, filming starts in March. The crew talks if its still possible for them to keep the October premier date.
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Collider crew talks Gambit: https://youtu.be/jtV-ldj1Jdw
According to a source, filming starts in March. The crew talks if its still possible for them to keep the October premier date.
LOL Now they say it is possible to release it in 2016 and in previous show they all told it was impossible ;D
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It's possible, it'll just be crap.
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It's possible, it'll just be crap.
Not necessarily. You can shoot a good movie in 8 months... But this is a superhero movie that's being handled like action-thriller heist flick with a rumored 150mill budget (that includes production, advertising etc). It could be less but even 100m is a huge movie and if the script is written with that in mind, there's no way it'll be ready for October. Fox wouldn't invest that much capital in a project and have it rushed out. I don't think that is Limen's style either. It'll get pushed back to early 2017 as we suspect. At least I hope it does. For the films sake.
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Okay we got a little bit of news, so they said shooting will start in March, so I'm guessing about 3 to 4 months of shooting, then the rest will be post
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And reshoots, can't forget the reshoots (if I had to guess, I'd say that'll happen around September-October).
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Bit off topic.. Hugh Jackman teased what could be a fourth Wolverine movie. Wonder if there's any chance of Gambit showing up there. Depending on the timeline of course. That timeline thing is a real b!tch.
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Bit off topic.. Hugh Jackman teased what could be a fourth Wolverine movie. Wonder if there's any chance of Gambit showing up there. Depending on the timeline of course. That timeline thing is a real b!tch.
He keeps talking about "Old Man Logan". That takes place in the distant future. In that story they had Hawkeye escort him across the country. Seeing as that's unlikely, maybe they could use Gambit (Tatum)? Or maybe Gambit, but not played by Tatum... I don't know. It's a possibility.
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He keeps talking about "Old Man Logan". That takes place in the distant future. In that story they had Hawkeye escort him across the country. Seeing as that's unlikely, maybe they could use Gambit (Tatum)? Or maybe Gambit, but not played by Tatum... I don't know. It's a possibility.
in a fox version of Oldman Logan Gambit could replace Hawkeye
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in a fox version of Oldman Logan Gambit could replace Hawkeye
yea... I just said that.
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In IMDb the name of the movie changed to 2017.
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yea... I just said that.
yes yoy did totally missed it, i was half asleep sorry dude
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I don't know about anyone else but for me, I'm going to have 90's nostalgia seeing Tatum dressed as Gambit. :D I'm so excited! It's not long now until we see him in the official image. God I hope he has the head sock and red&black eyes :smitten: Aaahhhh'
Hurry up March! :gambit:
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I don't know about anyone else but for me, I'm going to have 90's nostalgia seeing Tatum dressed as Gambit. :D I'm so excited! It's not long now until we see him in the official image. God I hope he has the head sock and red&black eyes :smitten: Aaahhhh'
Hurry up March! :gambit:
I know. I will probably cry when I see it. I never thought I would see a Gambit movie in my lifetime. And it will be very overwhelming. What excites me the most is the dedication of Channing Tatum. He fought for the headsock (hence the haircut), he said that he can't wait to put on the trench coat. The way he has done the Cajun accent practicing nonstop. It's just great to see.
Good or bad. Fox is dedicated to the character. Never as much as we all are. But I am ready for this ride. So ready. :gambit:
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Headsock.... I'm going to have a fit if he wears the headsock.... ???
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Yeah, Channing loves Gambit as much as we :)
I think Gambit movie news will start to pop up soon.
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Headsock.... I'm going to have a fit if he wears the headsock.... ???
Headsock is an important part of his iconic look. I always thought we should have at least cameo with it.
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Once Deadpool is out the way come Feb, it's all Gambit news and photos :gambit:
If they film for 4 months from March, we will see some footage at San Diego Comic con 2016 also.
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Headsock is an important part of his iconic look. I always thought we should have at least cameo with it.
Cameo, sure. But that should be all of it.
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Cameo, sure. But that should be all of it.
I'm now picturing it is part of a costume montage. I've got a (bad) feeling it'll be apart of his main costume. I guess I don't mind if it's done like in XXM but not Full Headsock--you never go Full Headsock. *ducks tomatoes for tired reference*
ETA--Just to clarify my earlier post about the rating--I've always known it would be PG-13, so I can't really say why I was initially disappointed--probably all those descriptions about it being a sexy thriller. But it serves the story and character better the way it's going. Bring on the double entendres!
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You guys are really harping about this headsock... This is his first outting as Gambit. We didn't see Gambit without the headsock until 2002 (in action). Didn't make you like him any less. There has to be a progression in character and costume. All characters do this. Even the Hulk didn't have the same pants from one movie to the next. Just chill. Chances are because of the nature of the movie we'll only see him "suited up" in the beginning and end of the movie. The vast majority will have him in civilian/casual clothing. Just my view on it.
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Yeah I agree, he won't be in his main costume throughout the whole film but still to see it in a film version of him will be exciting. :D
I'm thinking they'll have two different costumes for Gambit and the his normal, everyday clothes.
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If you will google pic with Gambit, at least first 30 of them are gonna be his 90`s costume with headsock. It is important part of him that makes him recognizable as comic book character.
If they will able to make that headpiece work on Tatum then it will be really awesome!
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If you will google pic with Gambit, at least first 30 of them are gonna be his 90`s costume with headsock. It is important part of him that makes him recognizable as comic book character.
If they will able to make that headpiece work on Tatum then it will be really awesome!
I agree with this 100%
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The 'funny name' and super powers make him recognizable as a comic character. And it doesn't really matter if we as fans like it or not, the movie has to sell to a much wider audience than us. If the audience is going 'wtf is on his head?' that doesn't help the movie succeed.
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Why would the audience think that? ???
The movie audiences have never asked that about any other superhero character on screen.
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Movie audiences don't care. They aren't invested in looks or persona via books. All they want is a good movie story. They know hokey when they see it too and it shows in box office receipts.
Movie audiences need to suspend belief - whether the hardcore fan likes what that is or not isn't the issue. Its the films success. I care more about that, than if Gambit has his headsock or not.
Gambit should win, survive - be the character I see. He doesn't need the props for that. IMO
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The 'funny name' and super powers make him recognizable as a comic character. And it doesn't really matter if we as fans like it or not, the movie has to sell to a much wider audience than us. If the audience is going 'wtf is on his head?' that doesn't help the movie succeed.
I actually think the opposite. A huge chunk of the American audience seeing this movie will have not seen him since the 90s show (ignoring Origins, most people loved he was in it but we're confused about everything else lol). If they don't see him in something familiar at least once they might say "doesn't really look like Gambit, but ok". But I guess the title screen, accent and the trenchcoat might be be enough LOL.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZcWzTBpOVc
FanMade Gambit Trailer with alligators, Sinister and Tatum with black/red eyes :gambit:
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I actually think the opposite. A huge chunk of the American audience seeing this movie will have not seen him since the 90s show (ignoring Origins, most people loved he was in it but we're confused about everything else lol). If they don't see him in something familiar at least once they might say "doesn't really look like Gambit, but ok". But I guess the title screen, accent and the trenchcoat might be be enough LOL.
Yeah, the accent, coat and likely eyes should be enough. ;) audiences managed with wolverine not having giant ears on his head. Heck even superman and batman both no longer wear their underwear outside their pants anymore. They didn't change those things because of the comic fans, they did it because they thought movie audiences would like it much better.
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http://comicbook.com/2016/01/21/simon-kinberg-explains-deadpool-gambit-fantastic-fours-place-in-/?utm_source=Comicbook.com&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=160121_143242_Comicbook.com%20Daily%20Newsletter&utm_content=Link
So it appears Gambit will be in modern day. That's a relief.
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http://comicbook.com/2016/01/21/simon-kinberg-explains-deadpool-gambit-fantastic-fours-place-in-/?utm_source=Comicbook.com&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=160121_143242_Comicbook.com%20Daily%20Newsletter&utm_content=Link
So it appears Gambit will be in modern day. That's a relief.
Not sure. After DOFP And Apocalypse do not mean modern day. He could bein 90`s.
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So he'll be placed in the Future we saw at the end of X-men Days of Future Past?
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So he'll be placed in the Future we saw at the end of X-men Days of Future Past?
not necessarily that future exists but it may be in its own universe as Singer has stated that anyone of those people we seen in the end can be killed off earlier in the timeline which sounds like there is a new timeline being created different to that one http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/bryan-singer-weighs-on-x-mens-timeline-anything-can-happen
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not necessarily that future exists but it may be in its own universe as Singer has stated that anyone of those people we seen in the end can be killed off earlier in the timeline which sounds like there is a new timeline being created different to that one http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/bryan-singer-weighs-on-x-mens-timeline-anything-can-happen
I don't think that's what he meant. The timeline Wolverine returned to wasn't "pre-Phoenix" (he was graying, so it happened years after the last X-Men movie). It was the same time as if that event didnt happen or happened slightly differently. By his own description, that timeline Wolverine went back to was set. The only thing thats in "danger" of changing are the happenings prior to that. And by changing, I mean by how we first saw it. By saying that, if he wanted to, he can retell Phoenix Saga altogether, or ignore it completely. Could be wrong, but thats how I saw it.
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Something I mocked up of how I view it. IMO anything else would prove that they arent time traveling but dimension jumping.
(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h263/Lawdaman/timeline_zpsrxugzp4z.jpg) (http://s66.photobucket.com/user/Lawdaman/media/timeline_zpsrxugzp4z.jpg.html)
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Movie audiences don't care. They aren't invested in looks or persona via books. All they want is a good movie story. They know hokey when they see it too and it shows in box office receipts.
Movie audiences need to suspend belief - whether the hardcore fan likes what that is or not isn't the issue. Its the films success. I care more about that, than if Gambit has his headsock or not.
Gambit should win, survive - be the character I see. He doesn't need the props for that. IMO
Couldn't have said it better.
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I don't think that's what he meant. The timeline Wolverine returned to wasn't "pre-Phoenix" (he was graying, so it happened years after the last X-Men movie). It was the same time as if that event didnt happen or happened slightly differently. By his own description, that timeline Wolverine went back to was set. The only thing thats in "danger" of changing are the happenings prior to that. And by changing, I mean by how we first saw it. By saying that, if he wanted to, he can retell Phoenix Saga altogether, or ignore it completely. Could be wrong, but thats how I saw it.
The last part of Singer's quote makes it clear that any of the characters Wolverine saw at the end of DOFP could die.
As to the New Future Wolverine saw at the end of "Days of Future Past," he said, "I'll kill any of those characters any day I want. They're all fair game. Anything can happen. When two things are happening simultaneously in quantum physics it's what’s called the Super Position and when the Observer finally observes the outcome that's called the 'Collapsing of the Super Position' which is what happened when Wolverine woke up and saw all the happiness. So yes that is the outcome we hope for, that is the outcome we aspire to, and that’s the outcome we are moving towards, but we saw in 'Days of Future Past' another dark world. What says that can’t happen again? What says the awakening of a being that has such power and can acquire the power to destabilize that? So anything is possible."
Dimension jumping is not different from time travel but rather a mechanism by which time travel is possible. There are two standard interpretations of Quantum Mechanics, the Copenhagen Interpretation which is basically what Singer is talking about here and the Many Worlds Interpretation which as it relates to time travel would suggest that multiple universes exist and the act of time travel results in you entering an alternate universe in order to avoid the Grandfather Paradox/Causal Loop ie you can't travel back in time because if you did and killed your grandfather you would never have been born and hence could not travel back in time. The way you solve for that is by saying that when you traveled back in time you entered an alternate universe and hence the universe where you were born still exists and thus when you kill your grandfather you did so in a different universe from the one you were born in.
The problem with Singer's statement is that the Collapse of the Superposition in the context of time travel would potentially result in the Grandfather Paradox/Causal Loop which many time travel stories simply ignore or they simply follow the many worlds interpretation without explicitly stating that they are to avoid the audience getting confused. But yeah, anyone can die according to Singer and frankly that would include Wolverine himself.
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Singer will either direct or produce his version of the Phonix Saga and Dark Phonix Saga and do it all in the next trilogy, calling it now
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The last part of Singer's quote makes it clear that any of the characters Wolverine saw at the end of DOFP could die.
As to the New Future Wolverine saw at the end of "Days of Future Past," he said, "I'll kill any of those characters any day I want. They're all fair game. Anything can happen. When two things are happening simultaneously in quantum physics it's what’s called the Super Position and when the Observer finally observes the outcome that's called the 'Collapsing of the Super Position' which is what happened when Wolverine woke up and saw all the happiness. So yes that is the outcome we hope for, that is the outcome we aspire to, and that’s the outcome we are moving towards, but we saw in 'Days of Future Past' another dark world. What says that can’t happen again? What says the awakening of a being that has such power and can acquire the power to destabilize that? So anything is possible."
Dimension jumping is not different from time travel but rather a mechanism by which time travel is possible. There are two standard interpretations of Quantum Mechanics, the Copenhagen Interpretation which is basically what Singer is talking about here and the Many Worlds Interpretation which as it relates to time travel would suggest that multiple universes exist and the act of time travel results in you entering an alternate universe in order to avoid the Grandfather Paradox/Causal Loop ie you can't travel back in time because if you did and killed your grandfather you would never have been born and hence could not travel back in time. The way you solve for that is by saying that when you traveled back in time you entered an alternate universe and hence the universe where you were born still exists and thus when you kill your grandfather you did so in a different universe from the one you were born in.
The problem with Singer's statement is that the Collapse of the Superposition in the context of time travel would potentially result in the Grandfather Paradox/Causal Loop which many time travel stories simply ignore or they simply follow the many worlds interpretation without explicitly stating that they are to avoid the audience getting confused. But yeah, anyone can die according to Singer and frankly that would include Wolverine himself.
In other words, he's a kid playing in sandbox and he's telling the world he won't be held to results of his own story. That's cool, but without further disruptions in time, its nonsense. If you go further in a timeline and see it, it can't be changed unless you interfere with it via more time travel. Unless hes stating that his timelines are constantly shifting... Interesting, but implausible. The present is already predestined if not provided with information of the future (time travel) or interfered with by the past (more time travel).
Or throw all this out of the window and except that breaking the quantum barrier is moving from one dimension to another. Thus would mean, you can't change the future, but divert your present. The witnessed future is its own stream and will continue on as it was found and the new "future" creates by the disruption is now a completely new dimension. So if someone traveling back in time, they still return to their future as they left it. But Singer isn't using this model... He's using the Singer Model.
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From the perspective of the time traveler, he doesn't know he is in another universe. I live in 616. I go back in time and alter the history that I am aware of from 616. The act of my going back in time actually puts me in universe 617 but I have no way of knowing that as I time travel. So when I kill my grandfather I don't disappear because my grandfather in 616 still exists and I actually killed poor gramps in 617.
So the past and future Wolverines goes to and returns too were not the past and futures from his original timeline. And you could easily solve the issue of Wolverine already seeing the end of his new timeline at the end of DOFP with Apocalypse. In the many worlds interpretation, alternative universes are created all the time based on decisions we make irrespective of time travel. So if I am deciding whether to go to the store today or not, under the many worlds interpretation, that potential choice means that an alternate universe is created so that there is one universe where I decided to go to the store and another universe where I decided to stay home.
So there is more than one universe where Wolverine went back in time because subsequent to him doing so, other decisions made by other people within that universe would have caused other alternate universes (all with a past where Wolverine went back in time) even without time travel. So the end of DOFP is simply one of those universes while it's like DOFP would be set in another one of these universes where presumably Apocalypse woke up.
This would become confusing for an audience and kill the suspense as if we are just switching between different versions of a character that exists in different alternate universes, the audience can't really connect with any one character because we have such an individual concept of identity. So the easy solution from a story standpoint is to simply ignore the fact you are following the MWI as most audiences aren't going to care.
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Something I mocked up of how I view it. IMO anything else would prove that they arent time traveling but dimension jumping.
(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h263/Lawdaman/timeline_zpsrxugzp4z.jpg) (http://s66.photobucket.com/user/Lawdaman/media/timeline_zpsrxugzp4z.jpg.html)
This looks pretty accurate. Nice job.
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Intersting where next Wolverine movie will fit in this timeline.
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Intersting where next Wolverine movie will fit in this timeline.
I think fitting into the current timeline following DoFP would be nearly impossible. Too much to set up unless he spins off Gambit and Deadpool set up. I suspect the 3rd Wolverine movie will be Old Man Logan. Set in a far dystopian future where they can set their own board and play however they like.
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I think Patrick Stewart is gonna be in this. So I think it may be in DOFP ending time.
Should they really have dystopian future for this too? Just a road trip would be ok for me.
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I think Patrick Stewart is gonna be in this. So I think it may be in DOFP ending time.
Should they really have dystopian future for this too? Just a road trip would be ok for me.
Maybe... but I believe Jackman is the one that brought up the idea of Old Man Logan. If your concerned about the inclusion of other actors/characters, well they can be in the movie, without having a pivotal role (lots of flashbacks). A lot of Old Man Logan's story comes about because of things that happen in the past. He's ultimately the cause of the death of the X-Men, mind you in the books its Mysterio (switch him out for Mastermind) that fools him into slaughtering his friends, but he lives with the memory and the guilt. So much so that he refuses to even use his claws. I think the idea of the story makes his claws like that of the aliens in Alien. You dont really see them until the end of the movie so when you do its instant adrenaline for the viewers. It also calls for less obvious actions beats and much more character development in terms of problem solving. I'm sure being able to flesh Wolverine out in this way appeals very much Hugh. I look forward to this if it comes to pass. While Singer has said he isnt holding himself to the future we saw in DoFP, I doubt as executive producer of all things foX-Men, he's going to sign off on yet another movie being set in that time which might further confuse audiences. We take for granted that we know more about the set ups than the common viewer. In other words, people arent as smart as you think they are.
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http://www.omegaunderground.com/2015/12/27/watch-gambits-channing-tatum-speak-french/ (http://www.omegaunderground.com/2015/12/27/watch-gambits-channing-tatum-speak-french/)
Here is a tease of what we will hear of Gambit's accent :smitten:
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Don, I really like your aliens/claws idea. It would be perfect!
I really hated when he was popping up his claws every three minutes in Origins.
I think Old Man Logan story can work without him murdering all x-men. It is ridiculous. I like Wolverine but it is ridiculous that he can kill all x characters at he same time.
It would be better if Mastermind would make him kill suporting love interest and red head girl from The Wolverine. He killed Jean before so now he do not want to use them again ever.
I just do not see him be able to kill all x-men.
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http://www.omegaunderground.com/2015/12/27/watch-gambits-channing-tatum-speak-french/ (http://www.omegaunderground.com/2015/12/27/watch-gambits-channing-tatum-speak-french/)
Here is a tease of what we will hear of Gambit's accent :smitten:
I think he will use different accent for Gambit movie. I can't wait for some concept art!
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Don, I really like your aliens/claws idea. It would be perfect!
I really hated when he was popping up his claws every three minutes in Origins.
I think Old Man Logan story can work without him murdering all x-men. It is ridiculous. I like Wolverine but it is ridiculous that he can kill all x characters at he same time.
It would be better if Mastermind would make him kill suporting love interest and red head girl from The Wolverine. He killed Jean before so now he do not want to use them again ever.
I just do not see him be able to kill all x-men.
Oh I never liked the back story of OML! The sheer idea of Wolverine being able to just rip through all his teammates at the same time irked me to no end. Not very believable at all. Too many heavy hitters and high level psionics to deal with all at once. Could he take down several? Sure, but every single one? Let's not ask why they all just happened to be in one room... But it was written. At the height Marvel's god level Wolverine marketing whoring- I mean campaign. He was then what Deadpool is now.
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Kurt LeBeau`s post at CBR:
"seems like Gambit movie will be set in present time after all:
https://twitter.com/smichaelmadden/status/690211069042667520
in case u didnt know, he has a source at Fox and has been posting little tidbits about the x-men universe in the last two years or so. Or he's now working/writing for Heroic Hollywood too."
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I'm glad it's set in present day. I honestly think they won't do a nineties movie and go straight to present day for the X-Men films.
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So anyone know how 'reliable' this guy is? is he usually right? You know I'm all for an end to this period drama nonsense. But I'm not sure if I can be 'happy' yet. 8)
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Thought you might enjoy this (if you hadn't seen it already)
http://moviepilot.com/posts/3712237
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Gambit might look like Casino Royale?
http://www.lawyerherald.com/articles/30252/20160128/gambit-updates-doug-liman-named-director-l%C3%A9a-seydoux-bella-donna-boudreaux-casino-royale.htm
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Sounds good, looking forwards to the announcement of the cast
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The wait is killing me!!! They really know how to keep us Gambit fans waiting! >:(
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The wait is killing me!!! They really know how to keep us Gambit fans waiting! >:(
Me too, I know. We will get more news soon. It is Deadpool`s month :)
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I'm happy for Deadpool but I hope it goes quiet in the next week. ;D so we can start the Gambit love train:gambit:
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Here is a Good article on what we want to see in the Gambit film.
http://www.designntrend.com/articles/70075/20160213/gambit-movie-5-huge-things-2017-channing-tatum-marvel-film.htm
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Along with kinetic power, he also possesses a hypnotic charm. He often uses his version of "the force" on women. not debating the charm power again, but um What women has he used "the force" on?
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It seems hypnotic charm debates are returning every quarter of the year ;D
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I liked Brutal Fight Scenes and Destruction in this article the most!
I want sooome news to speculate about :gambit:
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It seems hypnotic charm debates are returning every quarter of the year ;D
no, no debate, just wondering, as the artical stated he often uses "the force" on women, what a lovely sentence that makes , i know its star wars and all but comeon that sounds so rapey, like you know where i stand on the debate of charm, but say i was on the other side of the debate i would say his first appearance he uses his charm on the woman working with Shadowking, that is one woman, 1, who are the other women, while we all love that Remy is a ladies man this wording bugged the hell out of me infact the whole statement did, so i did a very quick flick through of some of my comics and Remy is seduced more so than we have seen him seduce, Working backwards , X-Factor 8 Angela , Gambit V5 10 with Joelle that seems more mutual if something happened, we dont know what happen with Mystique but he was resisting her seduction, then Gambit V4 3 Lili Penrose doesnt take no for an answer , again thats a quick flick through, and im not debating the charm power, if someone says he charmed such and such i dont care, its more about OFTEN USES on women, what women, in Xtreme he had no powers and seemed to charm one of Bogans hench people, other issue where Gambit is making out with a woman we dont see the set up like UXM 381, or in Victims with the defective it glossed over it but it was a relationship, with Genevieve XM33 he was in a relationship, probably would have been quicker to charm her to get what he wanted.
i repeat this is not about the power its about that statement and where it comes from? does anyone have anything that might add to it or an idea where it comes from, if you say he charmed such and such im not going to argue or debate with you over it
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I'd prefer 'naturally' charm too. The rapey subtext is too unavoidable. Even if it's a subtle telepathy type thing, say he never uses it on woman just people trying to kill him. Like shadow kings hench women, he was just trying to get away and save kid storm. (Natural charm still works there and would be preferred.)
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Channing Tatum is naturally charming, like Joel McHale or Oscar Isaac. He, and his portrayal of Gambit, don't need a dumb charm power. In fact, Gambit never needed it in the first place, he sure as hell never used it.
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It was just a dumb reference in an article from someone that probably doesn't know any better. I don't care if he has the charm power or not but he has never used it on women in the manner suggested. If it exists, it has only been used on people trying to kill him and he tried it on Iceman to try and tell him where Rogue was.
In fact, on the TV show Lucifer, Lucifer basically has a charm power of sorts and the actor pulls it off well IMO so something akin to that is perfectly fine IMO although I don't think it matters either way.
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It was just a dumb reference in an article from someone that probably doesn't know any better. I don't care if he has the charm power or not but he has never used it on women in the manner suggested. If it exists, it has only been used on people trying to kill him and he tried it on Iceman to try and tell him where Rogue was.
In fact, on the TV show Lucifer, Lucifer basically has a charm power of sorts and the actor pulls it off well IMO so something akin to that is perfectly fine IMO although I don't think it matters either way.
Lucifers power you refer to is people cant lie to him they just want to tell him their deepest darkest twisted fantasies, i find the actor a bit over the top at times especially the beginning of the last episode with the street performer. what you wrote got me thinking, though and i swear im not starting or trying to debate a charm power here but apart from the Iceman thing every example ive been given in favor of Gambit having a charm ability, i kinda noticed a pattern, Gambit isnt so much charming someone or getting them to do what he wants so much as he is distracting them or put it this way he is keeping the focus on himself while he speaks, like his first appearance, or with Vargas as someone used, just food for thought i could be utterly wrong
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I got the feeling that this person doesn't really know Gambit too well. Sure it's great that people are paying attention to the movie and writing about it. But to say that he has been seen with a bo staff in the past? And that he should lose the bo staff for the film? Dude. Dude no. That's like...his thing. That and other little details.
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They called Cyclops an anti-hero...
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Design and Trend isn't some well known or major news/entertainment source. It's nice to have places talk about the film because I think anything that keeps it top of mind is good, but also consider the source. :)
No Dantay - Gambit has never used his "charm" as in a power on women. Women find him charming and want to help him. E.g. The librarian lady in Fab's run. All the chicks kissing him when he was in a bar with Wolverine. They like him because he is eye candy. There is no instance beyond his schmoozing Iceman for a ride and Vargas to save his own life. He's exotic looking via his eyes. While Storm has called him a charmer in Xmen, it is because he's giving her compliments and she recognizes his "game" as it were. And she was flattered by his compliments. What he is ... is a listener, its part of the con that he does.
His 'charm' is more his personality than anything else. Not to get anyone going, but the whole mental rape idea is a thing/label now because of over reaction to stuff. Heck, basically anyone with telepathy can be labeled in that manner. Who the heck would want that power now. Its a negative connotation and not something that needs to associated with Gambit.
IA with you Spoonz, the bo-staff is important to the character. Its his main weapon, since he doesn't crutch on his powers.
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Lucifers power you refer to is people cant lie to him they just want to tell him their deepest darkest twisted fantasies, i find the actor a bit over the top at times especially the beginning of the last episode with the street performer. what you wrote got me thinking, though and i swear im not starting or trying to debate a charm power here but apart from the Iceman thing every example ive been given in favor of Gambit having a charm ability, i kinda noticed a pattern, Gambit isnt so much charming someone or getting them to do what he wants so much as he is distracting them or put it this way he is keeping the focus on himself while he speaks, like his first appearance, or with Vargas as someone used, just food for thought i could be utterly wrong
Lucifer says he is usually irresistible to women hence why his therapist basically ignores all professional decorum in front of him and the female cop. In fact he is drawn to the female cop because she is immune not only to his deep dark desire power thing but because she isn't falling over herself to sleep with him.
Now I suppose one could argue he is just naturally charming but he is the devil and the way women react to him isn't really natural IMO.
I agree the dude is over the top but I think it suits the character.
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Design and Trend isn't some well known or major news/entertainment source. It's nice to have places talk about the film because I think anything that keeps it top of mind is good, but also consider the source. :)
No Dantay - Gambit has never used his "charm" as in a power on women. Women find him charming and want to help him. E.g. The librarian lady in Fab's run. All the chicks kissing him when he was in a bar with Wolverine. They like him because he is eye candy. There is no instance beyond his schmoozing Iceman for a ride and Vargas to save his own life. He's exotic looking via his eyes. While Storm has called him a charmer in Xmen, it is because he's giving her compliments and she recognizes his "game" as it were. And she was flattered by his compliments. What he is ... is a listener, its part of the con that he does.
His 'charm' is more his personality than anything else. Not to get anyone going, but the whole mental rape idea is a thing/label now because of over reaction to stuff. Heck, basically anyone with telepathy can be labeled in that manner. Who the heck would want that power now. Its a negative connotation and not something that needs to associated with Gambit.
IA with you Spoonz, the bo-staff is important to the character. Its his main weapon, since he doesn't crutch on his powers.
Jean Grey and Xavier are telepaths and there is no real negative connotation for them. I don't think there is really a negative connotation at all. I just think haters have used it as an excuse to bash the character and some fans are weary of it as a result.
There is nothing wrong with him having it. There is nothing wrong with him not having it. There are more examples of Xavier and Jean Grey abusing their powers in the comics than there are of Gambit abusing this alleged power.
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Jean Grey and Xavier are telepaths and there is no real negative connotation for them. I don't think there is really a negative connotation at all. I just think haters have used it as an excuse to bash the character and some fans are weary of it as a result.
There is nothing wrong with him having it. There is nothing wrong with him not having it. There are more examples of Xavier and Jean Grey abusing their powers in the comics than there are of Gambit abusing this alleged power.
My bad for not being more concise and clear. The ideology of mental rape is a negative concept. Yes, haters have used the ideology to bash the character and yes fans are weary as a result.
It is a preference for me for Gambit to not have the power because its not worth the debate with the haters.
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My bad for not being more concise and clear. The ideology of mental rape is a negative concept. Yes, haters have used the ideology to bash the character and yes fans are weary as a result.
It is a preference for me for Gambit to not have the power because its not worth the debate with the haters.
Fair enough, I simply think it's a victory for the haters if we allow Gambit's powers to be defined based on their hating but to each his/her own.
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Still no news >:( unbelievable!
All I'm hearing about is Deadpool, Guardians of the Galaxy 2 and Wolverine 3 in the news and yet still no Gambit news?!?
What the hell is going on? They better make this wait worth it.
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Yeah I mean it's close to filming a little bit of news will help with getting people hyped for next year
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I hope they start releasing something soon. It's the perfect time to tease us fans with Gambit.
From what I've read so far on the Internet, there is so much confusion with what is happening with the Gambit film. Some people think it has been cancelled, people still think Tatum dropped out, even some people think it doesn't have a director etc.
After the success of Deadpool, you would think they would use this to their own advantage.
Show us a tease of Tatum as Gambit, exactly like Fox did with Deadpool.
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Go to the forum section of Comic Vine / X-Men. Someone put up a poll asking if Gambit should have a movie. I've been arguing yes on it, with my ideas for three, yes three, movies. Need so Gambit support over there!
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Fox or Channing need to release some information soon on the Gambit film.
These are actual comments that are floating around.
"i heard that the director quitted because the studio is interfering."
"I heard they switched the guy playing gambit. Like he actually has a Louisiana accent now loL"
"It was Channing Tatum, Not sure if they picked someone else"
"I don't see Gambit being released this year. Last i heard the director quit"
"What's up with Gambit? I haven't heard anything about it.Even though I think will do the least out of all the films"
The interest in the film is there overall but Fox need to release some news soon to clarify things. Tease the fans so they show more interest in the film and it catches their curiosity. I believe Gambit will be a hit if they do all the marketing for this film correct.
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Fox or Channing need to release some information soon on the Gambit film.
These are actual comments that are floating around.
"i heard that the director quitted because the studio is interfering."
"I heard they switched the guy playing gambit. Like he actually has a Louisiana accent now loL"
"It was Channing Tatum, Not sure if they picked someone else"
"I don't see Gambit being released this year. Last i heard the director quit"
"What's up with Gambit? I haven't heard anything about it.Even though I think will do the least out of all the films"
The interest in the film is there overall but Fox need to release some news soon to clarify things. Tease the fans so they show more interest in the film and it catches their curiosity. I believe Gambit will be a hit if they do all the marketing for this film correct.
tease them with what? they haven't even entered production yet, they just got a new director, those comments you posted are old and true...is , so far there is a director , leading male and female actors and a silly hair style, thats all there is, where there is more im sure we will all see or hear it, we have all the information we need which is They are making a Gambit film and there is an A-Lister heading the film with a decent script and a good director
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These comments aren't old, they are comments from people who don't follow Gambit and from some people who don't know who Gambit is but the curiosity is there. This is showing people who are t your typical Gambit/Marvel fans are interested in the film but aren't aware of the news with the film.
By now a costume should be made or partly, they can easily show a tease of this just to get us more excited or release some casting info to start the Gambit promotion.
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These comments aren't old, they are comments from people who don't follow Gambit and from some people who don't know who Gambit is but the curiosity is there. This is showing people who are t your typical Gambit/Marvel fans are interested in the film but aren't aware of the news with the film.
By now a costume should be made or partly, they can easily show a tease of this just to get us more excited or release some casting info to start the Gambit promotion.
again though production hasnt even started yet so there is nothing to show , like every comic movie once it starts we will be flooded with stuff
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Patience people, patience. To get too much too soon isn't good anyway. IMO. Makes it seem like they're working too hard to get audiences.
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;) ;D haha yeah I know you're right, I'm just excited for the film to start filming and see our first glimpse of Gambit :D
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Well, casting news wouldn't hurt, though.
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I think the more you wait and expect and get upset that we haven't heard anything, the longer it's going to seem to take. We know that the movie is definitely happening. Nothing we can do but chill and wait for the day when the news finally hits :)
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Plus there's, what, more than a month until filming starts? No big.
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I suppose we, Gambit fans, are just impatient. Nothing wrong with that... but knowing the film is coming is making us even more patient. I'll just sit and wait until we get the real stuff. It will come... it will come... :)
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Well, we have been waiting 16 years for a live action Gambit now, since 2000 X-men. I think we Gambit fans have earned to be impatient now ;)
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Correction. We've seen Gambit at least once live action.. Just because the role wasn't the best doesn't mean it didn't happen. Taylor didn't make a half bad Gambit, the script was just trash. His presence was simply pandering fan service. He served no real function.
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I don't personally see that as Gambt, it was a a young kid in a purple shirt with 2 elements of Gambit thrown on him. It could have been anyone in that film.
Taylor did ok with what he was given but what he was given was not Gambit. Taylor couldn't even master a Cajun accent, he found it too hard.
Personally I'm glad he has been replaced.
We want to see Gambit from the comics and from what we have heard so far, it looks like we may finally get him.
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Correction. We've seen Gambit at least once live action.. Just because the role wasn't the best doesn't mean it didn't happen. Taylor didn't make a half bad Gambit, the script was just trash. His presence was simply pandering fan service. He served no real function.
Yes, thank you.
Although, I wouldn't say he served no real function since he lead Wolverine to the bad guys location(and even flew him to the island), saved Wolverine from being smashed, and helped the mutant escapees get away with Xavier.
I don't personally see that as Gambt, it was a a young kid in a purple shirt with 2 elements of Gambit thrown on him. It could have been anyone in that film.
And I disagree. I enjoyed Kitsch as Gambit, and I enjoyed his part in the film(aside from the elbow to the face part). He may not have perfectly captured the comic version of Gambit, but aside from Patrick Stewart as Xavier, has any other X-Man comic character been perfectly captured in film? Just because you personally don't see him as Gambit doesn't mean that there hasn't been a film version of Gambit.
Personally I'm glad he has been replaced.
Not me. Kitsch may not have been perfect as Gambit, but at least he looked the part. I may end up enjoying the upcoming Gambit movie(I truly hope I will be able to), but right now I'm not excited at all. Tatum doesn't make me think Gambit at all. He doesn't have the look, and right now, for me personally, just doesn't seem right for the role.
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Saw this thread had a bunch of new replies, got kind of excited...only to see people talking about how there is no news.
So far, I'm more excited about the non-CT people involved (well, the screenwriter gives me pause, even though the script is supposedly good), and I'm curious to see what characters will be in it and what the exact plot will be--how will it compare/contrast with his comics origin, and all that.
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It's really strange, some people find Tatum is starting to look more like Gambit recently, and then some people don't see it at all.
I guess it all depends on which Gambit version Comics or Animation you are comparing with.
Personally, I don't see Kitsch as Gambit, he doesn't look like him in my opinion. Too young for the role I felt.
Kitsch had no red and black eyes, no Cajun accent, no personality of Gambits and no costume. The only part I thought Kitsch looked like Gambit, is the bottom part of his face in the scene, just before he takes off his hat.
I think what will make Tatum stand out more in this role is he is doing everything Kitsch didn't do or have. Which is great for us Gambit fans, as we are finally going to see the Gambit we want.
Its strange to say, as we have only been given little info so far but I have more faith in this adaptation. This news gives me faith
"Channing is a big fan of the comic,” Kinberg says, “so the accent, the attitude, the costume in many way, will be in the film. And he’s a character with a complex backstory – we’re playing him as a thief in the film, and that’s a big part of the story.”
This film and character can't be worse than what we got in Origins, that was lowest for Gambit I feel.
People who are still on the fence with this film or Tatum himself will find what they need in their own time to like this adaptation and hopefully enjoy it.
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Everyone says he's a bad actor, but he's so good now. He used to be crap, but now? Look at Foxcatcher, The Jump Street series, Side Effects, Hail Caesar!, and The Hateful Eight. He's amazing in these films and for some of those projects the only way he could've gotten a part in them was if he at the top of his game.
And then people argue about other actors and whether or not Tatum's too large for the role (apparently, he's an inch shorter and weighs a pound more than Gambit does in the comics, I saw that on a thread somewhere).
I always get mad when I see people throw out Gaspard Ulliel as Gambit because, sure he can speak French, but there's got to be a Southern accent alongside it. That's how Cajuns sound. It would be impossible for him to do that (I worry a little about how they're gonna handle Belladonna with Seydoux playing her because of this) and I've heard he isn't all that good of an actor in the first place.
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There's more to Gambit than just his good looks, theirs his attitude, his accent and of course his fighting skills.
Most people who throw out other names for Gambit are only thinking of their looks.
Tatum has grown in the last 5 years as an actor and it shows. He has proven what a good actor and dancer he is in films such as The Hateful Eight, Hail Caesar and Foxcatcher.
His dance background will lend a big hand to Gambit when it comes to the fight scenes.
I've heard him do a tease of a Cajun accent and it sounds fantastic. Very promising for the character. And on the plus he already has the southern charm pinned down.
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I really liked Tatum in his latest films and The Hateful Eight and always supported him as Gambit. I think he will do fine.
Deadpool had awesome action scenes. I hope Gambit will have even better fights and I am sure Liman with do his best.
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im not a Tatum hater but the films most have listed The Hateful Eight & Hail Caesar he's not in for long and Foxcatcher he is outshined in that film by Carell and Rufflo, 21 jump street its a double act and he is the better of the two, he doesnt look like Gambit but he has passion for the character, i dont think he is a very good actor but i feel he will nail this part and ill take that over someone who looks like Gambit anyday someone who will get the character right unlike Taylor Kitsch who i dont 100% blame for his Gambits short comings, he was lazy ore than anything, it was more on the director and studio see the extras where Hood talks about Deadpool
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I always get mad when I see people throw out Gaspard Ulliel as Gambit because, sure he can speak French, but there's got to be a Southern accent alongside it. That's how Cajuns sound. It would be impossible for him to do that (I worry a little about how they're gonna handle Belladonna with Seydoux playing her because of this) and I've heard he isn't all that good of an actor in the first place.
Get out of my head. Cajun=/=French. And excited as I am about who might be in this, I fear that not everyone will take care to try for a good accent.
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Big or little role, he shows what a good actor he has become compared to when he started out. I mean he was a dancer starting out in a new profession. He's been working hard for over 10 years now and it's showing. The man has put his head down and worked in front and behind the camera.
Anyways, because Tatum we are getting our Gambit film. His passion sure does shine out for Gambit and I think once that official photo is released of him dressed as Gambit, I think it will shock people how much he will look like him.
From recent pictures I've seen of him, he looks more and more like Gambit. For me what I'm looking forwards to the most is hearing his accent.
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http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/gambit-loses-release-date-as-fox-shuffles-marvel-movie-lineup
heres some news it loses its release date
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It's not anything we didn't already expect, let's be honest. We knew with a filming date of 16th of March, it would be another year until we see the film.
My only issue with this news is most of the Internet now is feeding the negativity once again on the Gambit film, calling it another "issue" the film is facing.
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I have no problem with it. If the release date were october 2016 then everyone would tell that this movie is gonna be a crap because they has not got enough time.
I just need a good movie and not a fast one.
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Have to agree. Many films get rushed, and the final product ends up being blah. WB raced to get Green Lantern out, and looked how well that did (yet Fox took their time with Deadpool). Fox does not want another Fantastic Four on their hands. Better to learn from previous mistakes than just plow ahead and assume it will be a hit just because it's a comic book movie.
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Have to agree. Many films get rushed, and the final product ends up being blah. WB raced to get Green Lantern out, and looked how well that did (yet Fox took their time with Deadpool). Fox does not want another Fantastic Four on their hands. Better to learn from previous mistakes than just plow ahead and assume it will be a hit just because it's a comic book movie.
I don't think Fox took their time with Deadpool at all. They just werent confident in the project and ignored it until the "leaked" footage set the internet on fire. They shelved it for so long Reynolds and company literally had years to develop the story and script. So much so, only about 25% of it got cut or changed before final shooting. The script that ended up online back in 2011 is really close to what we saw this year. Because of that, it was shot fairly quick. By time we got set photos, it was more than 75% done.
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Gambit movie talk on Collider... https://youtu.be/AzY81N5tsZE
Gambit movie in trouble..? :'( But admittedly, a lot of us were concerned about the budget. 150m is a bit much for a sexy-heist-action-thriller.
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Gambit movie talk on Collider... https://youtu.be/AzY81N5tsZE
Gambit movie in trouble..? :'( But admittedly, a lot of us were concerned about the budget. 150m is a bit much for a sexy-heist-action-thriller.
Will see. Just a speculation. No real info.
FOX won`t be able to use Deadpool in all movies so I am sure everything will be ok and we will see Gambit in 2017.
It is so hard to stay positive sometimes.
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I hope they cut the budget. Not as much as they did with Deadpool, but enough where they can stack the cast with talented people and get the effects needed for Gambit. $150 million is too much for a character that admittedly has popularity trouble and, in his last live action appearance, was portrayed by the box office poison known as Taylor Kitsch.
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Ant-man had almost the same budget. Ant-man...
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Ant-man had almost the same budget. Ant-man...
Yeah, Antman has a lot more reasons to have a bigger budget than Gambit. Not because of his popularity or appeal but because what the plot involves. Changing size, creating new levels of reality and perception. Gambit can be very practical and may benefit from it. Look what Doug did with Bourne (60m) and Edge of Tomorrow (175m). Bourne was 100% practical while Edge of Tomorrow was effects heavy. A balance in between may be the best move for the film. Mr and Mrs Smith (another Limen film), another down to earth action-thriller with some comedic notes, had two A-listers and still only costed 110m. If we want a successful movie series, the movie needs to double or triple it's cost. Is Gambit going to pull in 500m? 300m? But the fact that Limen has done low budget and high makes me confident in what he can do.
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Of course once we get the official word that the release date has been moved, the rumor mill starts running. They wouldnt start this crap up now cause its so close to shooting, so keep positive folks
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Gambit movie talk on Collider. . . https://youtu. be/AzY81N5tsZE
Gambit movie in trouble. . ? :'( But admittedly, a lot of us were concerned about the budget. 150m is a bit much for a sexy-heist-action-thriller.
Aren't those guy were always positive about the movie before. I don't understand their attitude. They wanted to push the date back and now it happened. The guy on the middle is a typical Gambit hater profile and I want to see his face when shooting photos come.
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Do we know when Fox will be announcing the names of the films and dates?
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Got pissed off with some of Their comments about the Gambit film.
I hope Fox bring out some news soon and start the positivity.
I agree about the budget, but I hate them sucking up to Deadpool. I remember when Deadpool was first announced, their was still negative comments from fans over the project until the official photo was released.
The problem is Fox aren't delivering positive news about the film. They really need to start releasing the release date and casting news. The fact nothing has been said from Fox or Tatum is the worrying part.
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It's just speculation but the success of Deadpool has likely changed things. Prior to, Tatum and Gambit seemed like the more likely successor to Wolverine but now with Deadpool's success, they don't necessarily need Tatum and Gambit like they did before. Doesn't mean they will stop it altogether but it's a fair point to make.
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Well, Lea Seydoux lists "Gambit" as one of her upcoming films in her Twitter profile, so I guess she's officially onboard.
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Well, Lea Seydoux lists "Gambit" as one of her upcoming films in her Twitter profile, so I guess she's officially onboard.
Well nothings been canceled. But the idea of it being scaled back is a real possibility. Again, we've seen Limen work with a big budget and a smaller one. Gambit is more James Bond than Star Wars. It wont be hurt too much by a smaller budget... unless they were planning on filming on different locales (ie NOLA, NYC, LA and maybe even Paris or Madrid; all locations we can see Gambit visiting).
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I'll admit to being concerned... When deadpool blew up, at first I thought, well that's going to be a tough act to follow. But now with still nothing new, I'm worries they're just going bag it and concentrate on deadpool: :/
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This is what really angers me. Since the year 2000 they didn't put Gambit in the original X-men films because they said he was too much like Wolverine. Then when they finally put him in a film, they just threw him in X-men Origins Wolverine just because Hey! We haven't used Gambit yet. Let's just throw in the worse version of him.
And now, we get promised a Gambit film but hey because another character was out the gate first and has done so well, they are still treating Gambit like he is not worth using. Very similar to the comic writers I feel.
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I would say X-Force do not need Gambit but X-Men still need him a lot. Deadpool was awesome but he won`t work in movie like Apocalypse as lead character.
Everything will be good with Gambit but I think movie will be not in present like Deadpool.
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This is what really angers me. Since the year 2000 they didn't put Gambit in the original X-men films because they said he was too much like Wolverine. Then when they finally put him in a film, they just threw him in X-men Origins Wolverine just because Hey! We haven't used Gambit yet. Let's just throw in the worse version of him.
And now, we get promised a Gambit film but hey because another character was out the gate first and has done so well, they are still treating Gambit like he is not worth using. Very similar to the comic writers I feel.
thats not whats happening at all, Gambit simply wont be ready for October, good films take time especially one's with lots of SFX , it will get a new release date probably Feb 17 , its a good sign that its taking its time and not rushing
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thats not whats happening at all, Gambit simply wont be ready for October, good films take time especially one's with lots of SFX , it will get a new release date probably Feb 17 , its a good sign that its taking its time and not rushing
Agreed, seriously guys, visiting little sites with small community groups does not mean much. Its a small group like this site, only with those other places you are not going to find throngs of fans. Movie goers don't care about all this stuff. The want to be entertained.
Remember it is Tatum who made this film happen, he loves the character. He has the pull to keep it going.
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We all know that the movie was going to be delayed. This isn't a big deal at all, but just like people jumped out the window and said that Channing Tatum quit, people are jumping out the window and reporting about what they don't know about. THIS month they will start shooting and we'll post a million NON SPOILER pictures on here.
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This is what really angers me. Since the year 2000 they didn't put Gambit in the original X-men films because they said he was too much like Wolverine. Then when they finally put him in a film, they just threw him in X-men Origins Wolverine just because Hey! We haven't used Gambit yet. Let's just throw in the worse version of him.
And now, we get promised a Gambit film but hey because another character was out the gate first and has done so well, they are still treating Gambit like he is not worth using. Very similar to the comic writers I feel.
Movies are not the comics. They cost tens of millions if not hundreds of millions to produce and market so Fox would be stupid to not reevaluate things as new information such as the success of Deadpool comes in.
Prior to Deadpool, all the info was that it was going to be a big budget 100 million+ PG-13 blockbuster which several people had questioned if that made sense. Now that Deadpool has shown you can do a modest movie with a 50-60 million budget with a R rating to boot then Marvel would be silly not to consider the impact that new information has on a Gambit film.
It also is quite possible, that they may figure they have the solo star to replace Wolverine now that Deadpool blew up so maybe they don't need a Gambit solo and they can simply just introduce him in a team movie like say X-force but there is no point worrying about that because that's just pure speculation right now.
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Movies are not the comics. They cost tens of millions if not hundreds of millions to produce and market so Fox would be stupid to not reevaluate things as new information such as the success of Deadpool comes in.
Prior to Deadpool, all the info was that it was going to be a big budget 100 million+ PG-13 blockbuster which several people had questioned if that made sense. Now that Deadpool has shown you can do a modest movie with a 50-60 million budget with a R rating to boot then Marvel would be silly not to consider the impact that new information has on a Gambit film.
It also is quite possible, that they may figure they have the solo star to replace Wolverine now that Deadpool blew up so maybe they don't need a Gambit solo and they can simply just introduce him in a team movie like say X-force but there is no point worrying about that because that's just pure speculation right now.
By "Marvel", you surely mean "Fox", correct?
But I concur. It'd be absolutely ludicrous for Fox not to reevaluate their plans for the direction of the X-Men films. Who knows? This may lead to a complete genre Renaissance. Before Deadpool I think studios believed comic property based films had to be colossal budgeted, flashy, summer blockbusters to be successfully made. Using Deadpool as an example they may start green lighting more passion projects with lower budgets. Smaller budgets equal less risk of loss. But it could also be a start of over saturation of bad comic book movies due to a lack of vision. Teams like Ryan Reynolds assembled don't come along every day. To clarify, I'm not saying a comic book movie needs a big budget to be good nor am I saying low budget passion projects are the future. Just some possibilities that may come to pass thanks to this past February.
Hollywood heads have a pension for being copycat, boot licking cowards after all.
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Yes, exactly. There's no way the suits at fox aren't rethinking everything after how well deadpool did. Maybe it will encourage they to take more chances on 'passion' projects or maybe they will just decide they have their new wolverine and not take anymore chances.
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My assumption is that in typical business fashion Fox will copy Marvel's widely successful model of "introduce individual heroes then pull them together into team film". Conceptually this way each hero can be individually introduced making team films less awkward and more meaningful and provided you keep some standards around each film you're developing a very flexible set of IP to repackage and sell and rotate through.
I haven't seen anything just yet that makes me think their strategy isn't that simple :) . They have no reason to collapse on Deadpool unless the Gambit film doesn't fare well. They're probably realizing they don't want "Wolverine" they want 8 "Wolverines".
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So do you guys think we will hear or see something from tomorrow about the Gambit film?
Last we heard from Kingberg, filming was suppose to start officially from tomorrow.
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I do not think we will hear something tomorrow. It seems October 2017 is the new release date so I assume shooting will start at September.
One poster at CBR told that movie is alive and they are in the middle of casting now. It is not checked info but I believe him. A few monthes ago he told that he would try himself in Gambit movie casting.
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So tomorrow was that date? I was going to wait until the end of the month to start complaining about how we got screwed. Ugh, wasn't the point of the solo movies to expand the universe ala avenegers and JLA. Now that they got one big hit, and they stop? If they want to make deadpool the 'center' of the universe, fine but don't stop the rest of the universe from expanding!
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So tomorrow was that date? I was going to wait until the end of the month to start complaining about how we got screwed. Ugh, wasn't the point of the solo movies to expand the universe ala avenegers and JLA. Now that they got one big hit, and they stop? If they want to make deadpool the 'center' of the universe, fine but don't stop the rest of the universe from expanding!
how have we got screwed? nothing has happened yet, the film is still a go, when production starts we will know. in regards to this film people need to relax and be patient before jumping to conclusions and saying we got screwed when we haven't,
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There is absolutely NO SENSE for us to start hand-wringing over conjectures! We may need to make separate threads, one for rumors and one for actual verified news.
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how have we got screwed? nothing has happened yet, the film is still a go, when production starts we will know. in regards to this film people need to relax and be patient before jumping to conclusions and saying we got screwed when we haven't,
I have the same opinion.
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I understand the excitement and wanting all details now but we should exercise patience and not stress over every small thing. The movie was pushed back, we shouldn't be expecting anything yet. Let the process occur. :)
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I haven't heard much for the Wolverine movie either and it's release date is currently next March so I wouldn't be overly concerned.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3501229/Channing-Tatum-enjoys-romantic-date-night-glamorous-wife-Jenna-Dewan-Los-Angeles.html
New photos of Tatum, looking more and more like Gambit. Still has the hair.
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Good that he still has longer hair. Can hope that shooting is delayed not for too long)
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From IMDb boards (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3729594/board/thread/255043681):
Gambit Movie will film in June 15, 2016 in New Orleans, LA., according to myentertainmentworld.
http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu/160321/Gambit_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg
I unable to connect to myentertainmentworld, is it a reliable source?
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Great. I hope it is true.
Also the name is X-Men:Gambit
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myentertainmentworld is a site for people in the industry to see what's out there in terms of roles. The bottom of this page has the entry for Gambit that was updated March 16 most likely for the shooting date.
One correction, the title they have there which is likely to change is X-Men: Gambit (aka Chess). If you are a subscriber, I believe you can login and get more info on the movie including if there are any roles they still need people for.
http://myentertainmentworld.com/feature-films/page/5/
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If this is true ( and I do hope it's true, and all y'all can say I told you so ;) ) but if it is true, June in New Orleans...Dayuuum... this is going to be the sweatiest movie ever. Tatum's been living in California too long and forgot how hot 'back home' can be. ;D
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So what do you think about the name of movie X-Men:Gambit? Should it be X-Men:Gambit or just Gambit? Do you think X-Men part in name will help Gambit movie?
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It should just be Gambit. He hasn't met the X-men yet, so he's not an x-man till later.
Deadpool is part of the X-men universe but he didn't have X-men Deadpool as a title.
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Wolverine wasn`t an X-Man in Origins too.
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While I'm certain "Chess" is for secrecy or something. I actually like that name. Gambit: Chess seems alright. I'd be fine with just Gambit. However - there is a much older film with that title, so something that would his film stand out so that people find him easier than the other film would be good.
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While I'm certain "Chess" is for secrecy or something. I actually like that name. Gambit: Chess seems alright. I'd be fine with just Gambit. However - there is a much older film with that title, so something that would his film stand out so that people find him easier than the other film would be good.
Meh... Sounds silly to me. "Gambit: Chess"? Calling it simply "Gambit" is probably whats most likely seeing as this is the first movie. In the next movie I hope its him doing a Indiana Jones act and perhaps finding something that links the X-Men universe to or puts them in contact with the Shi'Ar. Perhaps it kicks off an encounter that forces the Shi'Ar and the X-Men to work together to fend off the Brood or Phalanx. With the X-Men being the only super heroes in their universe (thanks to the toddlers that run Fox and Marvel), its not such a ridiculous idea.
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Deadpool and Gambit are two new solo films, which are set in the same timeline.
Both of these films will lead up to new X-men films.
X-men Origins: Wolverine was part of the old X-men films and I rather not be reminded of how bad that film/version was of Gambit.
I feel they should just have Gambit as the title. If they want x-men mentioned then have an X-men character appear in the film. (Similar to Deadpool)
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We still have no real confirmation when Gambit movie is based. He can be after Apocalypse but before Deadpool.
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Can we PLEASE get an update, cause I'm tired of looking for pictures of Channing Tatum to see if he had a hair cut.
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While I'm excited as you are to see more news of the Gambit, I fear there won't be anything on it until they start filming. And even then the information will be scarce... Unfortunately that's always the case with films being made. I can't stand it, it's annoying, but it's the way it is, unfortunately.
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Can we PLEASE get an update, cause I'm tired of looking for pictures of Channing Tatum to see if he had a hair cut.
Lol it is funny)
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Another delay... We were suppose to see the movie before that starting time in the first place. :'(
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/doug-liman-direct-wall-before-877926
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It's a pain to wait but I rather them do the film correct and with all the time they need.
Unfortunately this will be seen as another negative issue amongst general comic book fans. Fed up of them saying "This film needs to be cancelled already" Or "no one wants this film made"
Ugh..
My guess is the script and the production is getting another look over since Deadpools success.
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It's a pain to wait but I rather them do the film correct and with all the time they need.
Unfortunately this will be seen as another negative issue amongst general comic book fans. Fed up of them saying "This film needs to be cancelled already" Or "no one wants this film made"
Ugh..
My guess is the script and the production is getting another look over since Deadpools success.
You need to renew your signature lol. I am starting to hate Deadpool >:( I am expecting that they will delay Gambit movie again when Deadpool sequel starts filming. We will be lucky if they will put Gambit somewhere like Weasel or NTW in new Deadpoolverse.
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It is sad. It seems movie won't start shooting this Summer.
So R rated Gambit with smaller amount of money? Or what is the reason to rewrite it.
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Probably gonna stay PG-13, but they're gonna take out all the stuff that made the budget $150 million.
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Yeah this is getting very bothersome, and another reason for the delay our director is working on a film at the moment for amazon....AMAZON!!! I can say why even bother wanting to do a movie that may or may not be good...
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That was Rupert Wyatt who was worried about stuff not being good, not Liman. And this movie is probably gonna be really easy to make. It's about two snipers facing off against each other in the Iraq War. Seems to be one of those really tense movies with a limited cast, like Gravity or Buried.
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That was Rupert Wyatt who was worried about stuff not being good, not Liman. And this movie is probably gonna be really easy to make. It's about two snipers facing off against each other in the Iraq War. Seems to be one of those really tense movies with a limited cast, like Gravity or Buried.
I mean thats the movie I'm saying that may or may not be good. All to get a nom at the awards show, seem kinda low-key if you asked me. But hopefully, HOPEFULLY we will hear some good news about the movie around the time of SDCC or sooner
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Collider guys talk about the delay... Kind of insulting to Gambit fans because they act as if they don't exist.
https://youtu.be/ptO0923diwc
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You know I know this is a bit off topic....but why havnt anyone pointed that that despite a March of next year release date Wolverine 3 havnt even started to shoot yet....I dunno everything seem to be at a stand still over on the fox side of things, people are taking deadpool 2 but they said a script is being written for it now, but thats it. Everyone is saying "OH DEADPOOL 2 NEXT YEAR." but they would have to be starting to shoot if they want to get it into the same release spot as they did this year, so no deadpool 2 next year more like 2018...its just me thinking but maybe this is something we all need to think about
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Eh Reynolds lobbied for years for a Deadpool film and it was a success. Delays don't really matter as long as the movie is good.
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Eh Reynolds lobbied for years for a Deadpool film and it was a success. Delays don't really matter as long as the movie is good.
True, but difference is Deadpool was a relative unknown. I don't think I have even one friend around my age and even older (32, only one in my circles that reads) that doesn't know the name Gambit (mostly thanks to animated series, seriously that thing made throngs of fans from nonreaders). He's much more of a house hold name and can even be considered a X-Men staple for a lot of people coming out of the 90s. No one wanted to take a chance on a no name comic book character totting a once thought to be unmarketable R rating. Reynolds wasn't getting a budget, casting, getting moved, delayed, and losing directors. It was just sitting on a shelf. The script is years old and only got minor changes before shooting. I'll temper my expectations on production but still hold hope as I'm looking forward to it, especially with Limen helming.
The director is taking other jobs, ordering rewrites, and recasting from scratch reportedly. Let's just wait and see how this turns out. Could all be for the better.
P.S. I tweeted Jon Schnepp to lighten up on us fans and he "liked" my tweet lol. Not sure if he's messing with me or not...
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So many emotions when it comes to any Gambit movie news :D, whether it be delays, casting or budget. I don't care when they start filming. I will start paying attention to the Gambit movie once they actually start producing content. There really isn't a reason why Fox can't pull out a good movie with the Cajun.
I think they went against popular advice of introducing him in a full X-Men movie and going straight to the solo film first.
It all remains to be seen, but I am more hopeful than apprehensive.
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More Gambit talk. For a bunch of guys that don't believe much in it, they sure like talking about it... But I guess there no such thing as bad press?
https://youtu.be/CL-8_aYJ2hg
But I'm not opposed to a scaling back of the project. The 150-200m tag always made me a bit weary. I've seen Limen work with a 70m budget (Bourne). He can do it.
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True, but difference is Deadpool was a relative unknown. I don't think I have even one friend around my age and even older (32, only one in my circles that reads) that doesn't know the name Gambit (mostly thanks to animated series, seriously that thing made throngs of fans from nonreaders). He's much more of a house hold name and can even be considered a X-Men staple for a lot of people coming out of the 90s. No one wanted to take a chance on a no name comic book character totting a once thought to be unmarketable R rating. Reynolds wasn't getting a budget, casting, getting moved, delayed, and losing directors. It was just sitting on a shelf. The script is years old and only got minor changes before shooting. I'll temper my expectations on production but still hold hope as I'm looking forward to it, especially with Limen helming.
The director is taking other jobs, ordering rewrites, and recasting from scratch reportedly. Let's just wait and see how this turns out. Could all be for the better.
P.S. I tweeted Jon Schnepp to lighten up on us fans and he "liked" my tweet lol. Not sure if he's messing with me or not...
My point is delays don't tell you anything about how successful a film is going to be. There is plenty of reason for Gambit to be delayed. Deadpool fundamentally changes everything about how they view films IMO and I think it is obvious they are completely rethinking their movie strategy. So wouldn't be shocked if Gambit is seriously delayed or put on hold indefinitely as they try and focus on Deadpool and X-force. Perhaps even deciding to debut Gambit in X-force first instead of a solo film. Who knows. In the end, all this angst and worrying is pointless. It will come out when it comes out if at all and all that will matter is whether it was good or not. All this other stuff is stuff that goes on in Hollywood from time to time.
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More Gambit talk. For a bunch of guys that don't believe much in it, they sure like talking about it... But I guess there no such thing as bad press?
https://youtu.be/CL-8_aYJ2hg
But I'm not opposed to a scaling back of the project. The 150-200m tag always made me a bit weary. I've seen Limen work with a 70m budget (Bourne). He can do it.
Their logic is pretty dumb. No one was clamoring for Deadpool. That is revisionist history as it took years for the movie to be made. People only starting clamoring for a Deadpool movie once it was done filming and the marketing was so great. So Deadpool blowing up completely invalidates all their crying about no one clamoring for a Gambit movie as it doesn't matter if they are or not. All that matters is whether it ends up being a movie audiences want to see based on the marketing and the actual quality of the film.
The logic is dumb for the further reason that they talk about script issues and it being a mess when the fact is I don't think any of this is the result of the Gambit movie itself. In a world prior to Deadpool, the script was said to be fantastic and a big budget Gambit movie to replace Wolverine as the star of the franchise perhaps made perfect sense. In a world where the Deadpool movie was made for 56 million, was R-Rated, and made 740 million, a script that supports a bid budget Gambit film probably doesn't make as much sense. That is not an indication that the Gambit film is a mess. That is an indication that new information was provided to them and it obviously makes sense for them to revisit things because of it.
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Well no one was "clamouring" for a Deadpool movie at first, but after the CGI test footage "leaked" with the caption reading along the lines of "test shot of proposed Deadpool movie Fox shelved" people went nuts. The fact that it basically hit the internet during SDCC helped I suppose. The thing spread like wildfire.
But I made the same point to Schnepp in my tweet. No one, NO ONE, asked for a Blade movie. And that thing changed the perception of comic book movies forever. It quite likely heralded in the whole genre into the new century.
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It's funny, cause I thought Lyman was a better choice anyway, so I have no problem with him coming in and working on the script and pushing things back until he is ready. I don't understand why the budget is an issue for people. If the studio wants to spend money on blowing things up, then kaboom haters!
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The problem with the budget is that Gambit, while we all love him, is not as well known as Wolverine, same as Deadpool. The general audience doesn't read comics, so they may have heard about characters, but they don't know them. The studio didn't trust Deadpool to do well, so they slashed the budget multiple times and it wound up making a ton of money. They did more than break even. On top of that, it looks good for it's budget. You could easily do the same for Gambit, but keep it PG-13, which is less risky.
Also, Liman was apparently rewriting Edge of Tomorrow while on set or something like that. He turned that movie into a masterpiece.
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That budget thing will drive me crazy. Noone knew who Ant-Man and Guardians of the Galaxy were. Most people still do not know who Ant-Man is.
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That budget thing will drive me crazy. Noone knew who Ant-Man and Guardians of the Galaxy were. Most people still do not know who Ant-Man is.
But they are part of a recognizable brand, the MCU. People trust Marvel Studios to deliver a good superhero film. Fox has released a few stinkers over the years, and they're not as trusted when it comes to superhero movies. They're trusted more than WB, who failed when they put Snyder in charge of DCCU, meanwhile Fox is still trying gain people's love back.
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A big budget Gambit film can do well and a small budget Gambit film can do well. It doesn't matter if something is well known or not as there are plenty of movies made that are original to the movies and hence have no built in audience. They do well based on how well the project is made and marketed and how much Star power the leads have. The brand recognition of a Wolverine or Gambit or X-men is obviously helpful but it's not a requirement.
Deadpool didn't make a ton of money because he is a better known star than Gambit or Wolverine. It made a ton of money because it was a well made and marketed movie. I have never read a Deadpool comic and neither did the vast majority of my friends most of whom don't read comics period. That's not what drives a film's success. There wasnt a single person I know who gave a crap about whether Deadpool got a film or not. The fans that care about stuff like that don't make a movie a success.
What makes a movie a success surprise surprise are the people actually involved in making and marketing it which is why collider and others that say stuff like this completely miss the mark.
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Well no one was "clamouring" for a Deadpool movie at first, but after the CGI test footage "leaked" with the caption reading along the lines of "test shot of proposed Deadpool movie Fox shelved" people went nuts. The fact that it basically hit the internet during SDCC helped I suppose. The thing spread like wildfire.
But I made the same point to Schnepp in my tweet. No one, NO ONE, asked for a Blade movie. And that thing changed the perception of comic book movies forever. It quite likely heralded in the whole genre into the new century.
Which still proves my point. No one gave a cap about a Deadpool movie until a piece of marketing created interest. It was not some spontaneous clamoring. This movie was made because Reynolds never gave up on it not because a bunch of people were clamoring for it. Remove Reynolds and Fox likely would not have given a crap about this just like they didn't give a cap about a Gambit film until Tatum ie a movie star forced the issue.
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But they are part of a recognizable brand, the MCU. People trust Marvel Studios to deliver a good superhero film. Fox has released a few stinkers over the years, and they're not as trusted when it comes to superhero movies. They're trusted more than WB, who failed when they put Snyder in charge of DCCU, meanwhile Fox is still trying gain people's love back.
Exactly, but I'd disagree with your earlier statement of Deadpool and Gambit being similar. While Gambit isnt Wolverine, Wolverine wasn't Wolverine until Hugh Jackman got a hold of him. Prior to X1, people knew Wolverine in passing due to product placement, video games and advertising, but mainly because of the animated series. At that point, you could say the same about Gambit with a slight difference seeing as Wolverine was still the most popular character on that series (many would say Gambit was 2nd but no less than 3rd most popular). The seperation came when Gambit didnt make the cut for the 1st movie and then not even the 2nd (and thank goodness not the 3rd), sans a easter-egg name placement while Mystique was hacking Stryker's computer. But I digress; while Wolverine has stayed in the limelight since then, Gambit has been basically out of the public eye other than the small part in Origins and popping up in Evolution and the short-lived Wolverine and the X-Men series. However, from what I can tell from my co-workers and friends who have never picked up a single book (which is all of them), Gambit still has fans, as he's typically the 1st or 2nd name that comes up when talking about the 90s show. He doesnt have any new fans, probably very little under the age of 25-26 but those who were kids in the 90s watching Fox kids on saturday mornings still have him etched into a warm spot in their minds that pumps out the feel-good memories.
@NewSun17
The budget matters a lot and was making people nervous because of the possibility of failure is higher the more it costs to produce. If they spend 150m to make the movie and it only racks in 130m, 145m (domestic) or hell even breaks even, itll be seen as a flop. But if it does those same numbers and only costs 60, 70 or 80m to make and is critically acclaimed? Well, it's a success. Maybe not a resounding one, but it'll get a sequel and probably make another 50m on the back-end, not counting international sales.
I was onboard with the movie, still am, I'm defending it against naysayers and critics. However, I always had reservations about the budget and not introducing him in ensemble movie beforehand but it seemed like Fox was really worried about Jackman leaving and not having someone to fill the void. Limen directing helped a lot of my concerns because I'm a huge fan of his. I dont have a problem with Deadpool persay, but I dont believe he's a good fit as the main attraction of the XCU unless they are going for parodies.
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Which still proves my point. No one gave a cap about a Deadpool movie until a piece of marketing created interest. It was not some spontaneous clamoring. This movie was made because Reynolds never gave up on it not because a bunch of people were clamoring for it. Remove Reynolds and Fox likely would not have given a crap about this just like they didn't give a cap about a Gambit film until Tatum ie a movie star forced the issue.
Yeah... I wasnt trying to disprove your point. I was just kind of commenting. We're in agreement.
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Their logic is pretty dumb. No one was clamoring for Deadpool. That is revisionist history as it took years for the movie to be made. People only starting clamoring for a Deadpool movie once it was done filming and the marketing was so great. So Deadpool blowing up completely invalidates all their crying about no one clamoring for a Gambit movie as it doesn't matter if they are or not. All that matters is whether it ends up being a movie audiences want to see based on the marketing and the actual quality of the film.
The logic is dumb for the further reason that they talk about script issues and it being a mess when the fact is I don't think any of this is the result of the Gambit movie itself. In a world prior to Deadpool, the script was said to be fantastic and a big budget Gambit movie to replace Wolverine as the star of the franchise perhaps made perfect sense. In a world where the Deadpool movie was made for 56 million, was R-Rated, and made 740 million, a script that supports a bid budget Gambit film probably doesn't make as much sense. That is not an indication that the Gambit film is a mess. That is an indication that new information was provided to them and it obviously makes sense for them to revisit things because of it.
Yeah that was my problem with them last time this came up. The first thing they did was agree that it wasn't going to make the October date and that they all thought it was inevitable that it would be pushed back. Then, for some reason, the next conclusion they decided to draw was that this meant it was cancelled and wasn't getting one of the 2 unannounced spots for X-Men movies that had been announced. I don't know how they got from it being obvious that Gambit wasn't going to make October to the fact that it didn't means it's cancelled. :-\ So I haven't gotten around to watching this one yet because it sounds like more of that. I mean they may not end up being wrong because a lot of weird delays and things keep happening with this movie but the fact that it did something you expected isn't reason to call it dead yet.
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http://myentertainmentworld.com/feature-films/page/2/
Posted: July 19, 2015 at 12:52 pm EST Updated: April 3, 2016 at 1:37 pm EST
TITLE: Gambit (aka Chess)
CATEGORY: Feature Film
GENRE: Action / Adventure / Fantasy / Sci-Fi / Thriller
SHOOT DATE: September, 2016
LOCATION: New Orleans, LA
STORY:
The adventures of the X-Men world’s favorite mutant thief, Remy LeBeau, aka Gambit.
This is posted on IMDb Message Board by a user named as lajohn. The movie delayed only for 3 months actually. Only small number of people were aware of previous June date and they assume that it is delayed from March. Lea's name removed from Cast in IMDb, but she still has GAMBIT in her twitter profile and her last tweet posted 23 hours ago. I hope she didn't forget it there and consciously left it there.
Production starts September 2016: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3729594/board/thread/255769522
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September is great if true! It is sooner then I expected.
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September is also right before October.
As for Lea Seydoux, I'm not sure if that's her actual twitter. I'm not even sure she has one. If it were her's, there'd be a blue checkmark by it, considering she's a pretty well known actress.
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Lea has been taken off the cast list on IMDB.
>:(
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Lea has been taken off the cast list on IMDB.
>:(
yes and X Men Apocalypse IMDB page hat Channing down as Gambit for ages, don't go by that, im sure if she has dropped out there will be official word popping up somewhere like CBR
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Dang. I'm sort of glad I only keep up with the movie news on a monthly basis. The ups and downs are diminished that way. ;)
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John Campea talks briefly about Tatum and Gambit movie on his podcast. Starts about 34 minute mark; https://youtu.be/yaViHVGLj5s
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Gambit is delayed at least till september.
Kingsman 2 is supposed to start shooting this Spring or evem this month. It is more then enough time for Tatum to play his role in Kingsman and then start Gambit shooting.
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I've heard Channing Tatum only has a supporting role in Kingsman 2 (apparently as a "Statesman," which is the US version of the Kingsman organization. He'll also be Southern).
Anyway, he won't be there long. Five weeks tops, if I had to guess.
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I've heard Channing Tatum only has a supporting role in Kingsman 2 (apparently as a "Statesman," which is the US version of the Kingsman organization. He'll also be Southern).
Anyway, he won't be there long. Five weeks tops, if I had to guess.
On the bright side, it's a Fox movie. Which means he isn't cutting ties with the studio. Ending the project outright would most definitely leave a bad taste in his mouth, but this shows us the studio is still on the Tatum train. Kind of like "hey, we know there are some bumps in the road to Gambit but we have another project to tide you over until we can get this straight." Just my opinion.
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Kind of like "hey, we know there are some bumps in the road to Gambit but we have another project to tide you over until we can get this straight." Just my opinion.
Yep ;) My thoughts exactly.
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Simon Kinberg talks Gambit:
http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2016/05/exclusive-gambit-solo-movie-update-weve-got-to-get-the-script-right-says-producer-simon-kinberg/
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It's good to know it is still going ahead but I hope this time they stick to that date! Haha
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Like I said on CBR... Those comments made me much more optimistic for the movie. I was never really in doubt that it would eventually happen (I impatiently waited 8+ years for Deadpool to be made), but it's nice to get updates. Especially updates where the producer that has his name on all things X-movies says they want to get it right and are continuously working on the script.
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The movie HAS to be good based on what we know. All of us could write a decent script.
problem is Singer far as i know, he can't handle
a new character in 'his arc'
thats my take
whatevs
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The movie HAS to be good based on what we know. All of us could write a decent script.
I think 10 Gambit fans would write 10 different scripts with different feeling and type of movie.
Gambit is a really comlex character so sometimes it is hard to make him fun, serious, mysterious, charming, dark and self-loathing at the same time.
That is why fans has different opinions about Asmus` Gambit.
Some fans really love it and think that it was perfect. Some like me think that it was good but not good enough. And some really hate it because it wasn`t Gambit that they were expecting.
I think the same situatuon will be with movie. One fans would say I want him to be with Rogue, others would say I want pop-corn movie about thief and third group of fans would love to see Mutant Masscare drama.
Deadpool was a great mix of humour, drama and action with some erotic. Gambit movie need to be the same great mix of different things.
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http://www.superherohype.com/news/374133-channing-tatum-spotted-filming-kingsman-the-golden-circle#/slide/6 um looks like Tatum has short hair under that hat
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I think 10 Gambit fans would write 10 different scripts with different feeling and type of movie.
Gambit is a really comlex character so sometimes it is hard to make him fun, serious, mysterious, charming, dark and self-loathing at the same time.
That is why fans has different opinions about Asmus` Gambit.
Some fans really love it and think that it was perfect. Some like me think that it was good but not good enough. And some really hate it because it wasn`t Gambit that they were expecting.
I think the same situatuon will be with movie. One fans would say I want him to be with Rogue, others would say I want pop-corn movie about thief and third group of fans would love to see Mutant Masscare drama.
Deadpool was a great mix of humour, drama and action with some erotic. Gambit movie need to be the same great mix of different things.
I agree with you 100% Purplvt!
Wht hurts is that WE as fans really just want a good movie. It's like Deadpool in that sense, though Gambit is great as a pg-13 charcter
I'm watching these Apocalypse commercials and they hurt my eyes ya know? Too much juice not enough flavor, sure I'll see it, but we x-fans love our stories and our characters right?
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http://www.superherohype.com/news/374133-channing-tatum-spotted-filming-kingsman-the-golden-circle#/slide/6 um looks like Tatum has short hair under that hat
I don`t think that his hair is completely short. I think it is the same haircut like in hateful eight or this video. His latest interview I suppose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a34qMg0aF6w
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I agree with you 100% Purplvt!
Wht hurts is that WE as fans really just want a good movie. It's like Deadpool in that sense, though Gambit is great as a pg-13 charcter
I'm watching these Apocalypse commercials and they hurt my eyes ya know? Too much juice not enough flavor, sure I'll see it, but we x-fans love our stories and our characters right?
Gambit is good as pg-13 charcter but he can work as R rated too. He is blowing up things. His explosions need to be like grenades smashing everything and everyone.
And not like in Origins when 52 cards into Wolverine`s chest weren`t even possible to destroy his t-shirt.
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I disagree in the fact they can keep alot of that out of sight. Gaining the pg-13 rating. Not that it didn't happen, but I fail to recall the toast that Gambit wrote on that stuff :crazy2:
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I think 10 Gambit fans would write 10 different scripts with different feeling and type of movie.
Gambit is a really comlex character so sometimes it is hard to make him fun, serious, mysterious, charming, dark and self-loathing at the same time.
That is why fans has different opinions about Asmus` Gambit.
Some fans really love it and think that it was perfect. Some like me think that it was good but not good enough. And some really hate it because it wasn`t Gambit that they were expecting.
I think the same situatuon will be with movie. One fans would say I want him to be with Rogue, others would say I want pop-corn movie about thief and third group of fans would love to see Mutant Masscare drama.
Deadpool was a great mix of humour, drama and action with some erotic. Gambit movie need to be the same great mix of different things.
Yes, this is very true. Trying to balance all the different versions of Gambit people have in their head is the challenge. With a character like Deadpool, I think it is slightly easier because over the years his darker elements have been downplayed and made into something he can still make fun of.
The darker elements of Gambit like the MM is not something that you can make light of but it is something that for me drives his personality so it is something I would expect to see eventually on film.
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Got some unfounded Gambit movie gossip. Rumor has it a DC director may be courting him to play a role in the upcoming Flash movie.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/justice_league/is-channing-tatum-about-to-leave-gambit-for-a-role-in-the-dc-films-a142334
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I highly doubt he would go to the bomb blowing movies that is DC i mean look at all of the dc movies that bomb that isnt batman, plus if it ain't a main role I highly doubt he will leave
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Well, Apocalypse results are not so good too.
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No, Channing Tatum Isn't Jumping From The XCU to The DCEU
http://www.latino-review.com/news/no-channing-tatum-isnt-jumping-from-the-xcu-to-the-dceu
We reached out to a deeply-embedded source, who spoke with us on a condition of anonymity. The source referred to the speculation as totally off-the-mark, and assured us that Fox was moving forward with GAMBIT, with Tatum fully committed.
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Last photos of Channing Tatum are a bit discouraging. He cut his hair and he has belly. I hope he get back his form until end of this year.
photo: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/06/01/18/34D3196E00000578-3620412-image-m-13_1464803614205.jpg
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Last photos of Channing Tatum are a bit discouraging. He cut his hair and he has belly. I hope he get back his form until end of this year.
photo: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/06/01/18/34D3196E00000578-3620412-image-m-13_1464803614205.jpg
Why care how he looks now, he probably gained weight for another movie ,actors gain and lose weight all the time for movie roles
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Two Tatum`s movies are filming now: Kingsman 2 and Logan Lucky.
Also he has announced movies: Untitled Musical Comedy, Man in Black/Jump street and Gambit :gambit: ofcourse)
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I'm pretty sure MIB/Jump Street was supposed to be filming by now. Also, you'd be surprised what magic those Hollywood trainers are able to work.
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No Creditable Source Suggests Channing Tatum Is Leaving ‘Gambit’
I’ve also checked-in with a Fox source from time to time, who has never mentioned Tatum leaving a possibility since locking-in his producing role on the project has given him a lot of creative say. This led to the hiring of his friend Reid as a screenwriter, he also had input on the hiring of Liman.
http://www.omegaunderground.com/2016/06/06/no-creditable-source-suggests-channing-tatum-leaving-gambit/
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When is supposed to be out anyway? I'm getting confused by this lack of information and contradictory 'news'...
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When is supposed to be out anyway? I'm getting confused by this lack of information and contradictory 'news'...
Most likely October 6, 2017 but it is not official.
They planned to start shooting at the end of 2016 or start of 2017
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I know that we are miles away from the first Gambit movie but I wanted to share the idea for sequel) Or for next X team movie after Gambit solo.
What if in sequel he is working for Sinister and infiltrates X-Men to destroy them. But during this movie he needs to decide where his loyalties really lie when he meets Rogue and finds a possible chance for redemption.
It could be a great mix of X-Men/Point Break/ and first The Fast and the Furious.
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I know that we are miles away from the first Gambit movie but I wanted to share the idea for sequel) Or for next X team movie after Gambit solo.
What if in sequel he is working for Sinister and infiltrates X-Men to destroy them. But during this movie he needs to decide where his loyalties really lie when he meets Rogue and finds a possible chance for redemption.
It could be a great mix of X-Men/Point Break/ and first The Fast and the Furious.
Definitely no thanks to Rogue. It'd be interesting if he ends his film in a bad way, like he starts off like normal arrogant Gambit but Bella dies and he gets kicked out of New Orleans so he ends the movie as more of a grey character with nothing to lose, maybe a cliffhanger ending is the Marauders assembling under Gambit. And so initially X-Force starts with Gambit as almost a villain because of what happened to him in his solo but he quickly comes round and joins X-Force to beat his fellow Marauders and ends the film back to his old self but more grown up or whatever.
I'd like that.
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Is it technically a double post when you write the second one a few days later?
Anyway, looks like Gambit is delayed further:
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/06/10/gambit-director-doug-liman-lines-up-ya-thriller-chaos-walking-for-late-2016-shoot
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that they are making sure to get it right but...come on. Start filming the damn thing already!
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Is it technically a double post when you write the second one a few days later?
Anyway, looks like Gambit is delayed further:
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/06/10/gambit-director-doug-liman-lines-up-ya-thriller-chaos-walking-for-late-2016-shoot
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that they are making sure to get it right but...come on. Start filming the damn thing already!
I am not surprised. Kinberg told that they are planning to start shooting late 2016 or yearly 2017
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John Campea talks about the Gambit Movie. First topic.
https://youtu.be/JF0X81G8J7Q
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I hope they cut the budget too...
I really like Gambit's director, and they have a big name playing the lead. So yeah, there's potential.
If Mr Sinister's in this, then we've really got something here...
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I hope they cut the budget too...
I really like Gambit's director, and they have a big name playing the lead. So yeah, there's potential.
If Mr Sinister's in this, then we've really got something here...
That would be interesting. To have Sinister be the linchpin in all this. I'd be a funny twist, because Wolverine played that role for so long. The guy that went from movie to movie, but what if in a different way, that guy is now Sinister. Playing puppet master behind the scenes, if you will..
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Nothing new from John there.
I'm amazed how people still feel Gambit doesn't have a good story to make for a film.
So much opportunity with the character.
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Nothing new from John there.
I'm amazed how people still feel Gambit doesn't have a good story to make for a film.
So much opportunity with the character.
Most people don't know Gambit's story. Even of you watched the show, you wouldn't know. All it told us is he's from New Orleans, while most everyone else got a full back story
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They are moaning about Gambit`s budget like they are paying their money to make it.
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They are moaning about Gambit`s budget like they are paying their money to make it.
lol true...
But I think a budget cut will ease the pressure when it comes to it's performance in the box office...because if it doesn't (at least) make it's money back, then there's no sequels or anymore appearances of Gambit in other X-Men movies.
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lol true...
But I think a budget cut will ease the pressure when it comes to it's performance in the box office...because if it doesn't (at least) make it's money back, then there's no sequels or anymore appearances of Gambit in other X-Men movies.
I agree. That budget was a bit much. While I was excited that Fox would put that much behind it, it concerned me that that much expectation would be counter productive to its chances of being successful, at least without global sales and back end coming in.
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Lindberg giving some news
http://collider.com/gambit-simon-kinberg-channing-tatum/
Movies Web has another view on the subject
http://movieweb.com/gambit-movie-struggling-tone-x-men-franchise/
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Aannnd Variety...
http://variety.com/2016/film/news/x-men-producer-delays-channing-tatum-gambit-1201831988/
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They are really close to finish script.
I am sure almost a month ago he told in a video they they had amazing finished script.
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Vulture adds their view on the subject
http://www.vulture.com/2016/08/gambit-suicide-squad.html
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Vulture adds their view on the subject
http://www.vulture.com/2016/08/gambit-suicide-squad.html
Lol this guy
A Gambit origin story could set the tone for an entire Fox Cinematic Franchise.
Still, a nice Bond type flick wouldn't be too bad
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The Director has officially dropped out of the Gambit film
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Yeah, crap news :(
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/director-doug-liman-exits-gambit
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At least it wasn't over "creative differences". Could be worse. At this point, we'll be lucky if this movie gets made. Trying not to be too negative but, we aren't getting good news and all this does is fuel the hate at CBR. TBH - I'm so done with that (the hate, and its not just there but I digress).
Here's hoping Tatum gets this taken care of as it were. Since he's the sole reason its being made to begin with.
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Yeah. It seems everything is on Tatum's shoulders now.
I wasn't surprised with this news. Final result still can be good :)
Hope for some good news soon.
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OK no more waiting, all those comics book movies are crap anyway. If stupid Fox will start this project someday I want Tatum to be kicked too now. I really think that this movie will never gonna happen but if they try in the future I want no big directors or actors. Thats it.
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Production is mount forward in January, so Fox probably has someone already lined up or the shortlist of directors they're looking at.
If I were Fox though, I'd got after Justin Lin or Paul Feig.
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Production is mount forward in January, so Fox probably has someone already lined up or the shortlist of directors they're looking at.
If I were Fox though, I'd got after Justin Lin or Paul Feig.
I agree. There probably is a short list .... I hope Zack Snyder isn't on the list. LOL
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I agree. There probably is a short list .... I hope Zack Snyder isn't on the list. LOL
Zack Snyder is stuck at DC, thank god. If Wonder Woman tanks, JLD won't even get made, so Doug Liman has potentially screwed himself.
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January is what surprised me.
Maybe they were planning to start shooting at the beginning of Spring because of Liman?
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Perhaps, they could have also realized that Springs and Summers in the South aren't comfortable at all and moved up the timetable.
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I've lost interest in this Gambit project.
It's probably a better idea to introduce him an X-Men/Sinister movie, and recast him with a younger actor around the same age as Scott and Jean.
Either that, or re-introduce him in the next Deadpool film.
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So apparently Liman isn't leaving because of production issues or anything of the sort, but rather because Stacey Snider is now head of Fox (as of yesterday) and the two butted heads when Liman was making The Bourne Identity at Universal, which she was the head of at the time.
So, the "mutual agreement" was to let him leave the film so him and Snider wouldn't have to put up with each other. And I'm willing to bet that it was Kinberg who made this deal with Liman, as the two of them are buddies after they worked on Mr. and Mrs. Smith together.
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Good god...ugh can we get any good news about this movie for once other then the fact is will possibly be made? I'm avoiding tumblr for a while til people forget about it come on Fox get someone good and pay them really good so they won't leave
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Zack Snyder is stuck at DC, thank god. If Wonder Woman tanks, JLD won't even get made, so Doug Liman has potentially screwed himself.
I have hopes for WW movie but after several Zack Snyder stuff ..... I know I'm in a world of pain.
I hope Fox does better for Gambit. ;D
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No Gambit news more Mr.Sinister new, apparently he will be in the third Wolverine film and played by Richard E. Grant, who is an awesome actor, here is a Dr.Who clip of him in victorion era cloths saying names Storm, the Beast :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RqOQlMNhJg its not great quality and theres a link to CBR source on the possibility of him playing Sinister
http://www.cbr.com/x-men-apocalypse-commentary-confirms-wolverine-3-villain/
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Damn, every time someone is posting smth in Gambit movie thread I am thinking that finally we have some news.
And then... Sinister is in Wolverine movie(
Well, maybe they will at least make this Wolverine a great movie
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Damn, every time someone is posting smth in Gambit movie thread I am thinking that finally we have some news.
And then... Sinister is in Wolverine movie(
Well, maybe they will at least make this Wolverine a great movie
Sinister is a generational kind of villain. He's basically immortal, and because he's in Wolverine 3 doesnt mean he can't be others (because it's set in the future). I think him being in Wolverine may be a good thing in the long run if he's a hit. I mean if we like the idea of him possibly being in a future Gambit movie, the fact that he's connected to the character that stole the show in Wolverine, could only help if they choose to include him (Sinister) in it.
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I think the next few movies are gonna have something to do with Sinister. Except for maybe the next actual X-Men movie, but Deadpool 2, Gambit, and Wolverine 3 will feature him or allude to him.
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So how did we say October 7, 2016 in Cajun? >:(
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So how did we say October 7, 2016 in Cajun? >:(
I think the correct pronunciation is "lies".
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So how did we say October 7, 2016 in Cajun? >:(
Damn, time flies so fast.
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Heart breaking 😟
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Liman refused to answer any Gambit related questions during an interview;
https://youtu.be/MhfMyQj10Dc
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Liam refused to answer any Gambit related questions during an interview;
https://youtu.be/MhfMyQj10Dc
Not surprised. We heard from him nothing when he was attached to project so why for him to bother now.
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Remember that stupid rumor about Channing Tatum leaving Gambit to join The Flash that started because Famuyiwa followed him on Twitter?
What if Famuyiwa directed Gambit?
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Havent seen 'Dope' yet. So I couldnt tell you. But I hear nothing but good things about it.
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I've been meaning to watch Dope myself, but my friend raves about the movie and was disappointed when I told him he was leaving the Flash.
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I saw it on Netflix, it was pretty good. Not an action film, but had good suspense/tension in the scenes that needed it. And it wasn't afraid of having a sense of humor, something a gambit film would needd(and all x movies not named deadpool, desperately need.)
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Tatum's latest movie Logan Lucky is at post production now.
It seems his schedule is free now but now he has short hair again.
Not a good sign(
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Shirt hair? or Short Hair. I don't think having short hair is a big deal. TBH - Tatum looks better with short hair. He doesn't sport the longer locks as well.
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Shirt hair? or Short Hair. I don't think having short hair is a big deal. TBH - Tatum looks better with short hair. He doesn't sport the longer locks as well.
Short) I edited it.
Yeah but I think it means they do not plan to start shooting soon.
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I dunno - I think it might be looking too deeply into it. Seriously, Tatum looks bad in long hair, better for it to be short for Gambit. A good looking Gambit with short hair is better than a poor looking one because its deemed his hair should be long. IMO
Lets see where it goes.
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I'm with you there, if Tatum looks better with short hair, than just keep it short rather than look weird with long hair
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I'm with you there, if Tatum looks better with short hair, than just keep it short rather than look weird with long hair
Well Gambit did have short hair during his entire most recent solo run and the world didn't end.
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He got a better outfit to suit it too.
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Not only was Gambit's hair short in the last solo, but it was short in ANXF too. And I thought Gambit looked great.
I do hope they go with the suit from the solo, sure some iconic stuff should be there but I don't want Gambit to look too goofy on the big screen.
Some of his looks - looks great in comics but might not translate well in other mediums.
An example would be that TV show that featured Generation X with Emma Frost from 1996. The Mutant X TV (2001) took a more realistic look for the characters.
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Not only was Gambit's hair short in the last solo, but it was short in ANXF too. And I thought Gambit looked great.
I do hope they go with the suit from the solo, sure some iconic stuff should be there but I don't want Gambit to look too goofy on the big screen.
Some of his looks - looks great in comics but might not translate well in other mediums.
An example would be that TV show that featured Generation X with Emma Frost from 1996. The Mutant X TV (2001) took a more realistic look for the characters.
I didn't think anyone remembered Mutant-X... Now that I think of it, wasn't that origin of mutants more akin to that of the Ultimate Universe? By that I mean, mutants were engineered by scientists.
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I doubt you can count Gambit's hair as short in last solo and X-Factor.
Colossus has short hair not Gambit)
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Not only was Gambit's hair short in the last solo, but it was short in ANXF too. And I thought Gambit looked great.
I think we all have different definitions of short and long. That solo hair was short-med on a woman, but definitely medium-length on a guy. Solo length was perfect for Gambit and much better than '90s ponytail length.
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http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/content/channing-tatum-gambit-movie-back-development
Looks like we're back on, folks!
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Well good. I'm glad to get some good news. :)
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http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/content/channing-tatum-gambit-movie-back-development
Looks like we're back on, folks!
A New Hope!
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Fox Gives Release Dates to New Marvel Movies, But Doesn't Say Which Ones
The studio has revealed that the Marvel movies will arrive on March 2, 2018 and June 29, 2018. This is addition to the previously announced dates of November 2, 2018 and February 14, 2019.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/fox-gives-release-dates-to-new-marvel-movies-but-d/1100-6445718/
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My guess:
March 2, 2018 - New Mutants
June 29, 2018 - Deapool 2
November 2, 2018 - Gambit
February 14, 2019 - Deapool 3
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Fox Stirs Gambit Speculation With New Movie Release Dates
http://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/fox-stirs-gambit-speculation-new-movie-release-dates/
Nice article with the same info.
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New Director attached to the Gambit film.
Check out IMDB
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It is just a rumour yet.
Information is not confirmed so far.
But I would love Frank Darabont as director.
He would be able to add real emotions to this movie.
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http://omegaunderground.com/2016/12/11/big-rumor-frank-darabont-might-directing-rewriting-gambit/
BIG RUMOR: Frank Darabont Might Be Directing and Rewriting ‘Gambit’
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http://omegaunderground.com/2016/12/11/big-rumor-frank-darabont-might-directing-rewriting-gambit/
BIG RUMOR: Frank Darabont Might Be Directing and Rewriting ‘Gambit’
Holy Shiz net, if this is real or true it would be awesome
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Green Mile and Shawshank Redemption... Pretty awesome pedigree. Downside that was more than 20 years ago. I would hope this guy knows what he's doing, but approaches it like he would anything else and is not so out of touch with Comic Book movies are now, he doesnt give us something like Shumakers Batman's. Directors and writers like this tend to look down on the genre typically calling it "mindless". I just hope this isn't his approach and thinks anything will work. Please keep this guy away from X-Men 92' and maybe even the XTAS. Give him Mackie, Layman, Asmus and Fabian's runs as examples please... even though I don't think someone like this is going to take the time to read several dozen issues of comic books. Kind of afraid that committee of Marvel folk are providing him info. Lot of bias there these days.
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He developed and executive produced the Walking Dead which is literally a story centered around mindless zombies. Yet he certainly infused a sense of intelligence that probably has never been seen before in a Zombie film which is precisely why that show is so well received. Not to mention, the TV show is based on a comic and Robert Kirkman (writer of the comic) is on record talking about how Darabont respected the source material.
So I don't think he would have a problem respecting the comics and frankly if he actually is interested I would expect it to be because he sees something in the source material he can bring to the big screen that would make it unique just like he did with Walking Dead.
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Yeah, I wasn't going to bring up Walking Dead because he didn't do any of the writing or direction, he was the showrunner. He got abruptly let go, I believe due to internal beef with AMC. But that's probably why he hasn't been active since then. He's still going to court over those matters.
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Yeah, I wasn't going to bring up Walking Dead because he didn't do any of the writing or direction, he was the showrunner. He got abruptly let go, I believe due to internal beef with AMC. But that's probably why he hasn't been active since then. He's still going to court over those matters.
I'm one of those people that prefer the older seasons of the Walking Dead so maybe this would be a good thing for me? Although if it's somebody that's been inactive do we want them directing this film if they're rusty?
Either way though, it's about time we got some news on whether or not this movie is actually going to move forward.
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Yeah, I wasn't going to bring up Walking Dead because he didn't do any of the writing or direction, he was the showrunner. He got abruptly let go, I believe due to internal beef with AMC. But that's probably why he hasn't been active since then. He's still going to court over those matters.
The showrunner is essentially the Director of the whole TV show. The episode directors and writers are more of the footsoldiers. He essentially put the formula together that made that show a success and AMC basically fired him because they wanted to keep more of the profits since it was the first AMC show where they ultimately owned it outright. Their split was because they cut the budget per episode down and pocketed the difference and Darabont was upset because he felt they were overworking and underpaying the cast and crew. As the below notes, the biggest beef AMC had with him beyond the budget was because he takes a "feature film approach to television," which is one of the reasons the show was so well received.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/walking-dead-what-happened-fired-221449
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"feature film approach to television,"
I guess "feature film approach" can also mean; money and time. And since "time" means money in the film/tv industry, the show may have been more expensive with him at the helm.
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I guess "feature film approach" can also mean; money and time. And since "time" means money in the film/tv industry, the show may have been more expensive with him at the helm.
Well here is the direct quote. Again the main issue was the first season had a budget of about 3.75 million per episode. Darabont obviously delivered on that as Walking Dead became AMC's biggest commercial hit and then AMC responded by cutting the budget by about 500k per episode. And all AMC did with that savings was pocket it as profit. You would think with a successful show, they would reward the people involved but instead they opted for a money grab. AMC is notorious for doing this as the creator of Mad Men doesn't even talk to the guy in charge over at AMC anymore because they had a falling out. AMC simply can't get rid of him because they co-own Mad Men. Whereas for Walking Dead, they own it outright. Their killing off of characters on the show also has the added effect of making it difficult for the actors to fight for a bigger piece of the pie because they can simply be killed off and replaced with cheaper actors.
An agency source says Darabont is "notoriously a pain in the ass" known for "taking a feature-film approach to television," which is meant to suggest that he didn't manage the brisk pace of television well. But an insider says Darabont's approach was what made Walking Dead special. "Frank fights for the show," says an insider. "He doesn't just do what the network wants him to do. … He's a filmmaker, and that's why the show was as good as it was." Sources with ties to the show insist it was on schedule and on budget.
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Not much in the way of News, but Forbs mentioned it during an article about the state of the Fox X-Men movie franchise.
"...While Hugh Jackman may be finished with Wolverine, the successes of Deadpool and Logan have established a template going forward. Take a fan-favorite character, do a deep dive into a specific genre, keep the budget under $100 million and go for a fan-friendly R-rating. Under these circumstances, a $70m, R-rated Gambit movie, with Channing Tatum having Thomas Crown Affair-ish sexually-charged capers, might be a smart idea. Just make sure the film is tilted toward the female gaze, with that R-rating coming from male nudity from the Ragin' Cajun. It would certainly align with the unique model that served Logan and Deadpool so well-"
Full article here:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2017/03/21/thanks-to-logan-and-deadpool-the-x-men-franchise-has-an-identity-crisis/#1cd2067c56eb
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I agree with that right up until they said the film needs to please the female gaze. I mean yeah sure, show off Tatum's abs to the ladies or whatever but come on, Gambit has male fans too. If you make the films USP that women like Channing Tatum then this is just going to be Superhero Magic Mike and seriously, that's not a good formula.
If you make the entire film a sexy crime/heist thriller with superheros that appeases BOTH sexes then it's win/win. Why does it have to be one or the other?
I mean, look at Asmus' solo. He gave both the boys and girls eye candy, it was great.
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I agree with that right up until they said the film needs to please the female gaze. I mean yeah sure, show off Tatum's abs to the ladies or whatever but come on, Gambit has male fans too. If you make the films USP that women like Channing Tatum then this is just going to be Superhero Magic Mike and seriously, that's not a good formula.
If you make the entire film a sexy crime/heist thriller with superheros that appeases BOTH sexes then it's win/win. Why does it have to be one or the other?
I mean, look at Asmus' solo. He gave both the boys and girls eye candy, it was great.
Yeah, I get the intentions, but the whole "tilted toward the female gaze"- thing isn't what I'd want either. A steady balance is a better path IMO. If they do go the "70mil" route, I would have loved to see Doug Liman take on it. But there's more going on than just "scheduling conflicts". There's talk of a feud or disagreement between Liman and a new Exec that came in right around the time he was getting ready to re-write the script.
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I mean, look at Asmus' solo. He gave both the boys and girls eye candy, it was great.
or his fight and interaction with Daken that was awesome
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Tatum is a male fan. No way he will make a Gambit movie just for ladies.
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Tatum has made Magic Mike movies. And who do you think the target was for those? LOL
But I agree, the Gambit film should be more balanced for the male and female audience.
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My hope is that Fox won't be stupid enough to target mainly women. They should know that they'll be alienating half of their potential audience that way. Plus don't forget that some guys would see it just because it's a superhero film or it looks good, even though they're not necessarily fans of Gambit, but they'd be turned off it was targeted towards women. Heck, I'm really not a Wolverine fan but Logan looked awesome so I went to see it.
You know, it's a shame that John Wick already did what it did and that Deadpool got its director. That would've been immense for a Gambit film!
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So Deadpool was modeled after a black comedy. Wolverine after a Western. And Gambit may be a thriller ala 90s like the Thomas Crown Affair or sexually charged like Basic Instinct? Would something like that be better than something in the vein of Mr. and Mrs. Smith?
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Mr and Mrs Smith was okay but a bit too silly for Gambit to borrow it's tone. But I think definitely for the way that it catered to both male and female audiences, with Pitt and Jolie the Gambit movie could use that.
How about The Man from U.N.C.L.E? Even the remake wasn't awful. I know it's spy stuff but put a bit of thievery in there and it's good stuff for Gambit?
But definitely a thriller vibe yes, high stakes danger stuff. Like mission impossible meets oceans eleven?
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I think more of a James Bond feel without all the tropes of that franchise. :)
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James Bond isn't a bad reference. But Basic Instinct comes first to mind when it comes to the feel of the movie I hope Gambit goes for.
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Basic instinct might be a little too dark.
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Basic instinct might be a little too dark.
oh yes, but I didnt mean in tone but content... but you're probably right. Basic Instinct may be a bit of stretch, however when I did a search on Netflix for the Thomas Crown Affair, Basic Instinct came up as "related". But I agree, it's little further right on the spectrum than the Thomas Crown Affair.
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Fan made Gambit movie trailer
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/04/01/fan-trailer-friday-the-gambit-movie-gets-a-trailer/
Pretty silly but entertaining enough.
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Doug Liman On Why He Left Channing Tatum's Gambit
http://lrmonline.com/news/exclusive-doug-liman-talks-about-leaving-channing-tatums-gambit
Liman: “I'm all about the script, and I just wasn't feeling it,” he told us. “I've gotta connect to the script. On Bourne Identity, Matt Damon was always referring to himself as a 'script whore,' and I'm with Matt on that. It's like, you feel the script, that's everything. We make movies because we want to tell great stories. The Wall started with a contest Amazon ran, and Dwain's script rose to the top, and then it got handed to me.”
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See, I knew the Robocop guy was a bad choice! Superhero films are so saturated right now you need a good script.
So this is why the delay, they're starting from scratch because the script was actually rubbish? Maybe in a way that's good, otherwise a bad movie would have been made and the nay sayers would feel justified. So they were forced to make it better. On the other hand, it means we lost a good director.
How do you guys feel at this point? Right now I don't know, people are going to trash this movie unless it's AMAZING. It's like folk want it to fail and these delays don't give me much hope.
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3 years is more then enough to make a great script. I don`t understand what is happening.
Robocop reboot was a trash.
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Yeah the Robocop reboot was a trashy popcorn flick, and I guess you can say that about most superhero films as well but the ones that stand out are more than that.
At this point, I don't think it will go ahead. I reckon they'll just let it slowly fade out of existence and then one day somebody will make a passing comment about how it's gone. I mean, the Deadpool movie didn't go through THIS much trouble, did it? After the Wolverine Origins one, both Gambit and Deadpool had their movie discussions begin, and Deadpool has number 2 coming out already.
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Yeah the Robocop reboot was a trashy popcorn flick, and I guess you can say that about most superhero films as well but the ones that stand out are more than that.
At this point, I don't think it will go ahead. I reckon they'll just let it slowly fade out of existence and then one day somebody will make a passing comment about how it's gone. I mean, the Deadpool movie didn't go through THIS much trouble, did it? After the Wolverine Origins one, both Gambit and Deadpool had their movie discussions begin, and Deadpool has number 2 coming out already.
Deadpool took 10 years to get right and before that on Blade 3 Goyer had intentions of doing a DP move so it was in development even longer, i dont care how long it takes as long as they get it right
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Here's another take on the situation
http://movieweb.com/gambit-movie-director-doug-liman-exit-no-personal-connection/
I saw at least two more, news sucks but it's getting a lot of traction. I think the attention will do one of two things. Get it scrapped completely, or encourage Fox to get a decent scribe for the film.
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Here's another take on the situation
http://movieweb.com/gambit-movie-director-doug-liman-exit-no-personal-connection/
I saw at least two more, news sucks but it's getting a lot of traction. I think the attention will do one of two things. Get it scrapped completely, or encourage Fox to get a decent scribe for the film.
This take is completely different from first one
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The Gambit movie is in a interesting place. Fox is currently in a hit or miss mode when it comes to the X-Men. X-Men Apocalypse was a surprise critical dud. Deadpool was a surprise hit. Logan did well but was Hugh Jackman's swan song. Let's face it Fox has produced more duds critically than not. It's not a Gambit problem in my problem but rather a overall a lack of cohesive vision for the X-Men franchise as a whole. Which is why the time line is a mess in the movies. Time will tell.
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Is Gambit still part of that plan?
HUTCH PARKER (X-Men movie producer): It is. It is. I don’t have any news on that but there’s still a desire and a passionate interest to see that movie made
http://screenrant.com/x-men-dark-phoenix-hutch-parker-interview/
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Well, that something at least. Now they just need to find a director.
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I heard that Doug Liman exited from Justice League Dark too. I'm not sorry for him. I also don't expect for a Gambit solo movie. Tatum gone bald and fat. It's bad for him that he had to live with that bad semi-gambit hair look in past two years.
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I heard that Doug Liman exited from Justice League Dark too. I'm not sorry for him. I also don't expect for a Gambit solo movie. Tatum gone bald and fat. It's bad for him that he had to live with that bad semi-gambit hair look in past two years.
Bit harsh... At this point, I love Tatum's zeal but it takes more than that to pull out a good movie and Gambit has to be that, a good movie. Still think a series based on his younger years would be better but with it having to be on Fox, scares me.
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I'm still expecting news the Gambit movie is not going to happen..... :'(
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I'm still expecting news the Gambit movie is not going to happen..... :'(
It's stuck in what I like to call the "Ross and Rachel" Phase of movie making. Something Deadpool was also stuck in for a while.
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Not much info, but another take on the matter
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/06/03/x-men-producer-offers-update-on-gambit-movie/
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I know it likely won't happen, but I finally watched 'Logan'; and my first thought was they should include Gambit in the X-23 sequel. (With no Tatum). Have him be Laura's next mentor with Logan dead, and follow the theme from the X-23 book a few years back.
I feel like it'd be an excellent opportunity to introduce the character into the movie-verse. Give him a kick-ass role and get fans excited for a solo movie after that.
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I still think this movie is going to happen. It just makes too much sense. I think Simon Kinberg said by the end of the year they should have everything they need set and look to start production early-ish 2018. But first they have New Mutants, Deapool 2, and the next X-Men movie to shoot. So they have a lot on their plate at the moment so I wouldn't expect too much big news on this for a while.
I think shoving Gambit into to someone else's movie to "try him out" is a dangerous move. That's basically what they did with Gambit and Deadpool with X-Men Origins: Wolverine and that completely killed the idea. If you wind up sticking him in a bad movie it could ruin things for the future.
It's a shame there are still people who are down on Tatum. He is so instrumental to this working.
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Though I'm not a fan of Tatum, he's shown so much enthusiasm about playing Gambit, I'll take him over not having a Gambit movie at all.
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I think Tatum has the chance to pleasantly surprise some people. The writing and direction is what concerns me the most. If they can get those two things nailed down, I think Tatum will handle the rest.
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Yeah that is the most important. I'm definitely opening to giving Tatum a shot...if he ever gets a shot...
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I think Tatum has the chance to pleasantly surprise some people. The writing and direction is what concerns me the most. If they can get those two things nailed down, I think Tatum will handle the rest.
I think Tatum has already pleasantly surprised people up until now. But I agree. We need a solid story and direction.
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Gambit Guild Script Collaboration: Ready, Go!
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I think Tatum has already pleasantly surprised people up until now. But I agree. We need a solid story and direction.
For sure he has won many people over as an actor now. I more so meant all the doubters of him as Gambit. The people who say things like "he doesn't have the charisma" or "he can't pull off the Cajun accent" or "he's too big". That one makes me chuckle a bit. I bet that if they were to release an early and somewhat slick promo shot of Tatum in full wardrobe and black and red eyes, half the naysayers would flip instantly.
I'm down Meliorist. 8)
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Haters will still hate no matter what.
I always supported Tatum as Gambit but I understand why it may be hard to make this movie.
Remy is very complex character and 10 Gambit fans will make 10 mostly different movies that they would like to see first one.
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I agree that we all might come up with different stories for a Gambit film but we'll all pretty much be on the same page on how we feel the character should be portrayed and how his personality should be and how his powers and abilities are handled. And if that is done right(the character himself) I think most of us could be flexible on the exact story they tell. It's about getting the character right first. Something FOX doesn't have the greatest track record of but has shown promise recently with Deadpool and Logan.
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Gambit Guild Script Collaboration: Ready, Go!
Think we did this?
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I agree that we all might come up with different stories for a Gambit film but we'll all pretty much be on the same page on how we feel the character should be portrayed and how his personality should be and how his powers and abilities are handled. And if that is done right(the character himself) I think most of us could be flexible on the exact story they tell. It's about getting the character right first. Something FOX doesn't have the greatest track record of but has shown promise recently with Deadpool and Logan.
I think Gambit has a huge challenge as character becuase of his sad and selfloathing part and fun part at the same time.
Neko would love brighter Gambit as written by Asmus and such feeling for movie. Don would be even ok with popcorn movie if it will be succesfull and make money. Remydat would do a fun Gambit with more dark/selfloathing in third act. I would be more then ok with Gambit more as villain in drama/thriller movie about his past.
The pefect solution is really to find this golden middle between comedy and drama, so we can see fun, mysterious, cool, selfloathing and dangerous Gambit in one movie.
Fixed font size issue- Don
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I think Gambit has a huge challenge as character becuase of his sad and selfloathing part and fun part at the same time.
Neko would love brighter Gambit as written by Asmus and such feeling for movie. Don would be even ok with popcorn movie if it will be succesfull and make money. Remydat would do a fun Gambit with more dark/selfloathing in third act. I would be more then ok with Gambit more as villain in drama/thriller movie about his past.
The pefect solution is really to find this golden middle between comedy and drama, so we can see fun, mysterious, cool, selfloathing and dangerous Gambit in one movie.
Fixed font size issue- Don
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I think Gambit has a huge challenge as character becuase of his sad and selfloathing part and fun part at the same time.
Neko would love brighter Gambit as written by Asmus and such feeling for movie. Don would be even ok with popcorn movie if it will be succesfull and make money. Remydat would do a fun Gambit with more dark/selfloathing in third act. I would be more then ok with Gambit more as villain in drama/thriller movie about his past.
The pefect solution is really to find this golden middle between comedy and drama, so we can see fun, mysterious, cool, selfloathing and dangerous Gambit in one movie.
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You said it. Gambit is all of those things. But A lot of what you mention reflects tone and style of the movie. Those character traits can all be represented in the movie but depending on the tone and over all idea of the film some things might be highlighted more than others. This is why sequels would be great. But honestly, as long as they stay true to Gambit in the scenarios given, I think we would all be satisfied.
Maybe I should just speak for myself. I have my own ideas for Gambit in a movie but I also am open to all those options you mentioned as well. As long as they respect the character and get him right.
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We'd have to settle on a plot, a love interest (if any), tone of the film, villain(s), era (timeline), locale(s), and budget, which kind of determines everything else, if this was a spy flick, we going for "Mr and Mrs Smith" level or "James Bond Spectre"?
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We'd have to look at it from the perspective of a producer and writer and attempt to create something that honors the source material and appeals to superhero/marvel/dc movie going crowds as well as general movie going crowds. If we look at it from a nerdy Gambit fanboy/girl trying to make the perfect Gambit movie perspective, we'll be doing it FOREVER. ;)
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SIX MYSTERY MARVEL FILMS COMING FROM FOX
https://geeksofcolor.co/2017/06/30/six-mystery-marvel-films-coming-from-fox/
June 7, 2019
November 22, 2019
March 13, 2020
June 26, 2020
October 2, 2020
March 5, 2021
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Yikes. I like to think FOX is learning their lesson with these movies. Deadpool was pitch perfect and Logan was good(a bit overrated in my honest opinion) but I am not a fan of their X-Men movies at all. And that seems extremely ambitious for a studio who, in my opinion, has still not gotten the X-Men right. So I definitely have concern but we know FOX doesn't mind changing or dropping dates. Just as long as the Gambit movie is first in line after New Mutants, Deadpool 2, and X-Men "whatever" are finished, I'll be happy. People keep talking about X-Force like it's a definite and Gambit is still up in the air. I think Gambit is way further along in development than X-Force.
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Well, X-Force has a director and main stars. Maybe even first draft of script.
About Gambit we know so far only about Channing.
It seems old date Feb 14 2019 is valid too. I hope it is for Gambit.
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After you think about it, it's not as surprising as 6 dates may seem.
New Mutants 2
Deadpool 3
X-Force
Cable
X-23 (Logan sequel or something like it)
Gambit maybe
Main X-Men movie
Fantastic Four
Any other property they have
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Well, X-Force has a director and main stars. Maybe even first draft of script.
About Gambit we know so far only about Channing.
It seems old date Feb 14 2019 is valid too. I hope it is for Gambit.
Director is rumored and main stars are just people we assume will transition from deadpool 2.
Gambit has Tatum and we know there is a script(possibly 2) and rewrites. Imdb also has more listed in the crew for gambit. X-Force would be a big undertaking and Gambit SHOULD be a much simpler movie to make and should certainly come out before X-Force.
I agree Feb 14 2019 is a great date for Gambit to come out. Early in the year like Deadpool and Logan were.
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Collider talks X-Men/ FF slate; Harloff claims no one wants to see Tatum as Gambit; Calls for return of Taylor K to role
https://youtu.be/iVHgvF4qXig
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Collider talks X-Men/ FF slate; Harloff claims no one wants to see Tatum as Gambit; Calls for return of Taylor K to role
https://youtu.be/iVHgvF4qXig (https://youtu.be/iVHgvF4qXig)
Even the people that don't want Tatum would rather have someone other than Taylor "Box Office Bomber" Kitsch. Please tell me someone had some sense and called him on that.
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Collider talks X-Men/ FF slate; Harloff claims no one wants to see Tatum as Gambit; Calls for return of Taylor K to role
https://youtu.be/iVHgvF4qXig (https://youtu.be/iVHgvF4qXig)
It made me mad >:(
Posted commet for video that Harloff should only talk for himself.
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Ugh, you know, these people and all their ilk do know their films, they know the business, but really what impact do they have? None. They're just commentators. Ignore them if they say stuff you think is silly.
Tatum isn't my first choice at all but he's grown on me. Watched the trailer for Logan Lucky and it looks like he's still becoming much better of an actor. I also watched that Hateful Eight movie the other day and I reckon he's actually better than I thought at doing the charm act.
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I can't stand those guys at Collider and I can't really watch them anymore. He says no one wants Tatum. No one wanted Ben Affleck as Batman either when he was announced. Then they released that photo of him in the Bat suit and half the people flipped. Then they did their marketing campaign and a teaser then trailers and everyone was declaring Affleck the best Batman ever before Batman v Superman even came out. Harloff and team should know better then to trust the opinion of the internet of a casting choice so early on in production. Internet opinion can change drastically further into the process. If it was one of their favorite characters they'd be much more open minded.
And to keep harping on Taylor Kitsch is just ridiculous at this point. Kitsch did the best he could but he was not a good Gambit. Not to mention he's pretty much considered box office poison at this point. The ship has sailed on Kitsch.
Did anyone here like Kitsch as Gambit in XMO:W?
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And to keep harping on Taylor Kitsch is just ridiculous at this point. Kitsch did the best he could but he was not a good Gambit. Not to mention he's pretty much considered box office poison at this point. The ship has sailed on Kitsch.
Did anyone here like Kitsch as Gambit in XMO:W?
I was never a fan, but he has fans of his portrayal. He tried to hard imo. But he was okay enough that when that film is on TV, the only scenes I watch are his. That says something, there was some really good effects and I liked the gambling aspect. But getting decked by Wolvie was lame.
Funny - SBB (my hubby and tech guy here) busts my chops when that film is on ... he know which section I'm watching and knows I'll change the channel when its done. LOL
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If that movie is on. those are the only scenes I watch as well but it's really only because it's Gambit in live action movie form. So, I've watched that scene many many times. At the time I stood up for him and his portrayal. I give him credit for doing his best but after all is said and done, in my opinion, he is not the guy. I can literally break down the entire appearance of Gambit in that movie shot for shot and go on and on about all things I don't like, can't stand, or hate and the things I like. The bad far out ways good. And in my opinion that appearance of Gambit was a massive failure all around.
I just don't understand people who think Kitsch was great or say "Gambit was the best thing in the movie". To me that's what has helped bury Gambit as a character in the years since. People hardly remember Gambit in the movie and for fans to say Gambit was "awesome" or "pretty good" or "done well" I think criminally underscores how awesome Gambit really is. I think Deadpool got a bigger push coming out of that movie because of how butchered he was and everyone knew it and complained to no end. Gambit just kind of resembled himself and overall it was just a lame outing and excitement for him in movies just kind of faded into the background.
Thanks to Channing Tatum and FOX realizing they screwed up the possibility of establishing a major fan favorite character they are trying it again. But it's a bit more of an uphill battle than it originally would have been in part due to the disappointing showing from him the first time in a disappointing movie. These are just my opinions and feelings on the matter.
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Well, Gambit WAS the best thing in that movie. Problem is, it was an awful movie from start to finish so it's not a very high bar to clear :P
I think Kitsch had the right look for Gambit and honestly I think as an actor he had the ability to pull it off. But the problem was that he really didn't know Gambit, he said in interviews he'd never heard of the character before the audition. Now fair play to him he went out and tried to do his research but maybe he just didn't read enough issues (he only ever mentioned the issue where he talks to Storm on the roof then beats up Sabertooth), because his Gambit could've been any cocky teenager in a casino if you took away the cards and the staff. But I think it's unfair to lay it all on Kitsch since that script and direction was pretty bad for the character. He won the plane in a game? Why not have him steal it?
Anyway, I would've been curious to see Kitsch try again with a much better script and a better director. Maybe a director who loves the character. Everybody rips on John Carter but I liked it and thought Kitsch didn't do too badly. Everything that came after that...pretty bad, yeah I can see what he's not in a lot of stuff these days.
But as it is, Tatum love Gambit and seems to know Gambit pretty well so I'm happy for him to have a go. If only we can get to it happening!!
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I think that Tatum was excited at first but after delays he lost his interest and started to look his other projects.
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I think that Tatum was excited at first but after delays he lost his interest and started to look his other projects.
Don't agree. I think Tatum is the main reason movie is still somehow in development and not completely dead
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I agree that he focused on his other projects.. but I don't believe he's lost interest. He can only do so much to get the green light. Still gotta pay the bills, too.
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Well, Gambit WAS the best thing in that movie. Problem is, it was an awful movie from start to finish so it's not a very high bar to clear :P
I think Kitsch had the right look for Gambit and honestly I think as an actor he had the ability to pull it off. But the problem was that he really didn't know Gambit, he said in interviews he'd never heard of the character before the audition. Now fair play to him he went out and tried to do his research but maybe he just didn't read enough issues (he only ever mentioned the issue where he talks to Storm on the roof then beats up Sabertooth), because his Gambit could've been any cocky teenager in a casino if you took away the cards and the staff. But I think it's unfair to lay it all on Kitsch since that script and direction was pretty bad for the character. He won the plane in a game? Why not have him steal it?
Anyway, I would've been curious to see Kitsch try again with a much better script and a better director. Maybe a director who loves the character. Everybody rips on John Carter but I liked it and thought Kitsch didn't do too badly. Everything that came after that...pretty bad, yeah I can see what he's not in a lot of stuff these days.
But as it is, Tatum love Gambit and seems to know Gambit pretty well so I'm happy for him to have a go. If only we can get to it happening!!
He may not have read much, but at least he read 90s era Gambit. And let's be serious, he didn't go out and find that issue himself, he was given that book and probably more, but only read that. It says even Fox producers know what era of Gambit is the most suitable.
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This guy wants the Gambit role.
http://m.tmz.com/#article/2017/07/09/nick-bateman-gambit-bo-staff/
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He is younger looking than Tatum .... I'd be alright with this guy in the role. :)
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This guy wants the Gambit role.
http://m.tmz.com/#article/2017/07/09/nick-bateman-gambit-bo-staff/ (http://m.tmz.com/#article/2017/07/09/nick-bateman-gambit-bo-staff/)
It is funny that in comments on youtube people are excited to see Bateman as Gambit and don't like idea of Tatum as Gambit. I don't think that Bateman has more Gambit look then Tatum but he is cool with Bo.
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Love the outfit too... big fan of the button up vest. Kind of like what he wore in XMO Wolverine.. except this one's better.
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It is funny that in comments on youtube people are excited to see Bateman as Gambit and don't like idea of Tatum as Gambit. I don't think that Bateman has more Gambit look then Tatum but he is cool with Bo.
I find youtube comments to be very negative in general and it doesn't matter what the subject matter is ... its like the old CBR. LOL
That aside - its still on Tatum so far if we're ever going to see a film. :)
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Channing Tatum Confirms He’s Working On Gambit Right Now
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/07/20/x-men-gambit-movie-channing-tatum/
It was there we asked if the actor was still playing Gambit, and here’s what the actor had to say: “Yeah, of course. We're working on it right now."
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The way he says it makes it seem like there's never a doubt that he'll be playing the character. Which is good news.
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A lot of new interviews with Tatum on Gambit. He is positive :)
Channing Tatum hopes to bring the Gambit panel in next year Comic Con in a interview with cinema blend and talks more about Gambit
https://amp.cinemablend.com/news/1683329/why-channing-tatum-feels-great-about-the-gambit-movie-right-now (https://amp.cinemablend.com/news/1683329/why-channing-tatum-feels-great-about-the-gambit-movie-right-now)
Channing also mentions that there were certains thing which they weren't allowed to do until Deadpool and Logan came out. Channing adds that he isn’t ready to commit to making Gambit an R-rated film: “We’re not quite going there, because I enjoyed Gambit as a kid so I don’t want to rule out PG-13 but there are some things which might be a little Rated R.”
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/channing-tatum-gambit-giving-bit-rethink-thanks-logan-deadpool-011545036.html (https://www.yahoo.com/movies/channing-tatum-gambit-giving-bit-rethink-thanks-logan-deadpool-011545036.html)
Channing Tatum in an interview with MTV talks regarding the delay and how Logan and Deadpool have inspired him. Channing mentions that it was the luckiest thing in the world that we had some bumps in the road and I think the bumps in the road came at the time that there was a paradigm shift in these movies," Tatum told MTV News' Josh Horowitz at a press event for Kingsman: The Golden Circle Thursday (July 20). "We got to witness and learn from two really beautiful change in guard from movies, Logan and Deadpool. It did break some ground for us and now we have to figure out what our version of that is and not just try to go and do whatever that is."
http://www.mtv.com/news/3026457/channing-tatum-gambit-hope-comic-con/ (http://www.mtv.com/news/3026457/channing-tatum-gambit-hope-comic-con/)
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I did, yes.
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WEll, I guess that's something at least. Especially since there was barely any x-movie news...
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Loved everything Tatum said. He said pretty much everything I was thinking was going on. Great to hear Tatum finally asked about it in an interview. Tatum's not going anywhere people, he wants this role and this movie BADLY. If they need to take their time to get it right, then I am more than fine with that. :gambit:
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Loved everything Tatum said. He said pretty much everything I was thinking was going on. Great to hear Tatum finally asked about it in an interview. Tatum's not going anywhere people, he wants this role and this movie BADLY. If they need to take their time to get it right, then I am more than fine with that. :gambit:
Me too! I hope Tatum will find a good director who will be pationate for this movie too.
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With Tatum's passion, a good director that has good chemistry with him and a solid script and I think we are in store for something pretty special.
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What does everyone think...should a Gambit movie be R or PG-13? Deadpool & Logan made sense, and they both worked, but I'm on the fence on this one.
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Shumar and Tatum have both said several times even a week ago that they don't believe they'll go beyond PG13. They might push the boundary in some places but in terms of language and graphic violence (the main reasons Deadpool and Logan got their rating), but that's it. If it goes R it'll probably be due to sexual content, but that would need to be a whole lot of it, not generally something we've seen from Tatum... outside of Magic Mike. I'd expect "Thriller-level" sexual content. Lots of it, but not lude and graphic... trying to think of a movie that has the level I'm talking about and all I can think of is Basic Instinct (not the tone, but the amount of sexual content that made it rated R. Wasn't shy on language either).
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Of the 3 characters, Gambit needs an R rating the least.
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I've always said Gambit really doesn't need an R rating. But if they decided to go that route I would embrace it. I have to say that it would be really interesting to see the physical destruction Gambit's powers could produce. That mixed with sexual scenes, nudity, and some hard language would definitely interest me. But it doesn't have to be hard R.
I liked what Tatum had to say. He said, he doesn't want to exclude kids from being introduced to Gambit because that's what he was (as most of us were) when he fell in love with the character. But depending on how everything plays out and where it takes them, they're not opposed to an R rating. That's pretty much exactly what I want to hear.
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Pg-13's can get away with a lot of physical destruction, just not a lot of blood.
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They can use R for his powers too. I want cards to be like grenades.
Carmine in X-Factor was always drawing Gambit throwing cards near his oponents.
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Pg-13's can get away with a lot of physical destruction, just not a lot of blood.
That's really what I meant to say. The damage done to a human body by a powerful projectile explosive thrown from Gambit. That can't be done in PG-13. It would be interesting but it's not necessary. I also like the idea of Gambit throwing kinetically charged objects near his enemies to take them out by fallen debris, blocking off an escape, or just knocking the foe down with an intentional near miss. None of this hitting them directly and they get up nonsense. They have to establish his powers as formidable. If it's a direct hit on a human, it should definitely be a kill.
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Outside of a couple instances, mostly in AoA, Gambit's explosions have typically always blown his targets BACK not up.
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Yeah well that's mainly because Gambit is not normally featured in comics that are allowed to be graphically violent. Gambit has used many charged projectiles to blow up objects like walls or cars etc. If Gambit hits a human with a charged brick there will be pieces of that person scattered all around. Not something they could do in the T-rated comics he's usually in but if they went with an R-rating for the movie I'd be interested in seeing a scene or two like that. A charged card blowing up a wall but only knocking a person back is not very consistent. That's why I like him using the cards in an intentional "near miss" style and non lethal way to incapacitate opponents if they want to avoid killing/graphic killing.
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I don't know. Gambit grew up on the streets, was adopted by thieves, one of his best friends and eventual wife was an assassin. Despite all of that he doesn't kill people with his powers. I spoke with a childhood friend recently and she said one of the reasons Gambit was a favorite of her's was because he wasn't gritty and gloomy.
If they were going to show the damage his powers can cause, I would rather it be in a flashback and use it to show why he isn't dropping people like Deadpool and Wolverine. It even be a quasi innocent scene where he and Belladona are throwing knives at a tree and Remy charges one, with the knife causing massive damage when it explodes, injuring Bella. They joke but Remy is worried and makes a comment like 'Maybe I stick with cards next time' as he stares at the tree.
Give him a 'I hate/don't use guns' kind of line. A way of informing the audience that he is being nonlethal without making us have a weird dialogue about it.
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If David Leitch is directing Deadpool 2, Fox should give Gambit to Chad Stahelski. Especially after John Wick 2.
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If David Leitch is directing Deadpool 2, Fox should give Gambit to Chad Stahelski. Especially after John Wick 2.
Would love too. Loved both John Wick movies a lot. Second even better.
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I think you should get the idea of Gambit blowing people (the human form) up in a live action-movie, out of your heads. If it does happen, it'll be once, more than likely to set up the story or conclude it. He isn't going to be making human confetti left and right. That's not the Gambit character and it'd be impractical to show on something south of NC-17, much less, R.
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I think you should get the idea of Gambit blowing people (the human form) up in a live action-movie, out of your heads. If it does happen, it'll be once, more than likely to set up the story or conclude it. He isn't going to be making human confetti left and right. That's not the Gambit character and it'd be impractical to show on something south of NC-17, much less, R.
Sometimes I wonder if my whole posts are being read. I made mention of it happening once or twice probably at the end to kill off a main baddie or two. Never implied he would be killing muthas left and right. If they go with an R rating then it is totally likely we could get a scene like that. I'm not sure where this "Gambit never kills" idea came from but I don't buy into to it. As an X-Man he is trying to do the right thing but if the situation calls for it, I can totally see him having to put someone down.
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I'm not sure where this "Gambit never kills" idea came from but I don't buy into to it. As an X-Man he is trying to do the right thing but if the situation calls for it, I can totally see him having to put someone down.
It isn't that he can't kill but chooses not to, kind of...
His first meeting with Magneto, he says he isn't going to charge the cards enough to kill but in one of the solos, he leaves a guy to a demon's mercy.
My introduction to Gambit was very low realism. A Sega game first, then the cartoon, and finally the comics. None of them took a realistic approach to what an explosion would do to the human body. We already discussed this a bit with the Cap vs Gambit fight. In the Age of Apocalypse comics, which sealed the deal on Gambit and Blink being two of my favorites, Gambit never really came off as serious about everything until he drops Colossus. Which was a pretty cathartic scene, so I can definitely see how him doing that to the main villain would also be appealing. I don't find the idea of it necessary though, primarily because I think they will mess it up.
Sure, with a Gambit movie, they have a great chance to give a rebuttal to all the people that say Gambit has stupid powers and does nothing. It is just that most creative teams seem to go for style when drawing and not give due consideration to what they are showing. Most of the time Gambit's cards cause larger explosions than grenades and the can of beans did better than some missiles but I don't see that being conveyed properly, so I'd rather them avoid it.
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Sometimes I wonder if my whole posts are being read. I made mention of it happening once or twice probably at the end to kill off a main baddie or two. Never implied he would be killing muthas left and right. If they go with an R rating then it is totally likely we could get a scene like that. I'm not sure where this "Gambit never kills" idea came from but I don't buy into to it. As an X-Man he is trying to do the right thing but if the situation calls for it, I can totally see him having to put someone down.
I don't buy "Gambit never kills" too. But this idea was shown in Nicieza's solo where Remy could blow villains into pieces with his eyes but refused to do so like in fights with NEO and Bullseye.
Gambit always was afraid of his powers so I think he will faster kill someone with normal knife then with charged card.
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Good stuff. For me, I feel in a movie they need to do a decent job representing his powers and the strength he possesses. He is going to be represented as a solo character and only the the third one at that in the X-Men movie-verse. He has to be a formidable solo character. Wolverine is basically un-killable with an adimantium skeleton and matching set of claws. He will always win because he is virtually unstoppable. Deadpool is virtually un-killable as well but mixed with super-fighting abilities as well as guns and swords. Third now is Gambit who can be killed and isn't unstoppable. So they have to make up for it else where like his speed and agility and ability to escape situations. As well as his impressive power set. That's what he has over the other two. Having him hitting mortals with projectiles and merely knocking them back isn't very impressive. He's basically useless if a more powered foe comes along. Like I said, a direct hit from his kinetic explosive projectiles should be enough to kill a mortal or at least send them into the intensive care unit. So I see him using them for indirect hits just taking people out of the situation for the time being. Unless they want to give him a mastery over his powers in the movie where he can control the force of the explosion in the objects he charges. That could fix things.
Just off the top of my head I can think of three instances where Gambit kills. Julien Boudreaux was killed by Gambit straight up in a duel(not counting that lame retcon where it was an accident), Gambit also killed the tithe collector in the Mackie miniseries, and Colossus in AoA. I think the stuff with him not wanting to kill just depends on the writer and what story they want to tell. I honestly don't have a problem with Gambit killing the occasional foe especially if it's to save someone else. I think that's within the characters scope. Not to mention, you would think Gambit is going to be played as a morally ambiguous character in the film. If they want to get into him being more hesitant about killing, maybe that can be an arc for him that spans a few films as he becomes more and more of a "good guy".
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I get where you are coming from and agree to an extent. I do have my own bias but will be more specific; Gambit has always seemed skittish at the thought of killing with his powers and not that he doesn't kill at all. Honestly, if they tweaked the Ultimate introduction of Gambit and still ended with him using his powers to fry the brain of the bad guy, I would have no issue with it. More than that though, I would rather them emphasize Gambit's combative pragmatism, cleverness, and ingenuity. Controlling his powers to do time delayed shape charges, also awesome.
My concern is that is that with Gambit's powers, they decide to go rule of cool and it turns out like, "Hey, Michael Bay, we got this character..."
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I really don't want some Michael Bay-esque popcorn flick. I want something thematic and enthralling, and outside of the Dark Knight trilogy, there aren't very many PG-13 rated super hero films like that.
Aside from the examples of him using deadly force already given, I remember him killing a clone of Scalphunter in Fabian's solo and I think I remember him killing a couple of goons and the main villain in Asmus' solo. That being said, I don't think he should have high body count in this film because that would make him too similar too Logan and Wade. Now, I would have no objections to Belle and the Assassins Guild indulging in some bloody mayhem because that's what I expect from Assassins.
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Now, I would have no objections to Belle and the Assassins Guild indulging in some bloody mayhem because that's what I expect from Assassins.
Agreed, that would work really well. They could have Gambit leading a team of thieves on a job and they bring Belle along as muscle in case everything goes pear shaped. Which it will.
I want something thematic and enthralling, and outside of the Dark Knight trilogy, there aren't very many PG-13 rated super hero films like that.
Agreed on this as well. Let some Marvel movies have emotional sincerity. The characters can banter and bicker but save it for the mooks if it is in a fight. If it is Sinister/ Marauders/ Hell Fire Club, let it have drama without undercutting it with quips.
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Just off the top of my head I can think of three instances where Gambit kills. Julien Boudreaux was killed by Gambit straight up in a duel(not counting that lame retcon where it was an accident), Gambit also killed the tithe collector in the Mackie miniseries, and Colossus in AoA. I think the stuff with him not wanting to kill just depends on the writer and what story they want to tell. I honestly don't have a problem with Gambit killing the occasional foe especially if it's to save someone else. I think that's within the characters scope. Not to mention, you would think Gambit is going to be played as a morally ambiguous character in the film. If they want to get into him being more hesitant about killing, maybe that can be an arc for him that spans a few films as he becomes more and more of a "good guy".
Yeah, Gambit was a better swordsman then Julien and killed him in a duel. Carey was the one who made lame retcon with charged knife.
Not sure, but I think that Tithe Collector has survived explosion in first mini and appeared in Rogue mini.
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LOL, Michael bay would definetely handle Gambit`s powers ;D
It reminded me Titanic video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJxj1mou03M
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More than that though, I would rather them emphasize Gambit's combative pragmatism, cleverness, and ingenuity. Controlling his powers to do time delayed shape charges, also awesome.
My concern is that is that with Gambit's powers, they decide to go rule of cool and it turns out like, "Hey, Michael Bay, we got that is character..."
100% agree. That's definitely what I mean to imply when I say they need to display Gambit's "power set" well. They need to get into his enhanced agility, speed, dexterity, etc due to his powers. I'd love to see him dodge/deflect bullets. I'd love to see him use his staff as a boom stick. I'd love to see a time delayed charge as well. They can get real creative with his powers if they have the imagination. I want to see him use his ability to con and trick people too. Like I said, if they gave him control over how much charge he puts in an item I'd be ok with him hitting mortals and not killing them. I hope this is at least part of the reason for taking their time with the movie. That they want to do more than a character with generic powers and really put together something unique and interesting. Honestly, not only would he be different than Wolverine and Deadpool, but he'd be more unique than the characters in the MCU.
purplevit, It doesn't really matter if a character showed up again later. Julien did too and if AoA wasn't just an alternate storyline that had an end, Colossus would be back too. Point is, for the purposes of those stories the objective was to kill. Nobody stays dead in comics. ;) No problem with Gambit killing the occasional bad guy.
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You get me wrong. I am ok with Gambit killing Jullien.
I am not ok with Carey's story in Origins where Gambit was worse fighter then Jullien and was lucky that he killed him with charged knife.
Gambit must be a great h2h fighter in movie with speed and agility. So everyone will remember that he is dangerous.
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Sometimes I wonder if my whole posts are being read. I made mention of it happening once or twice probably at the end to kill off a main baddie or two. Never implied he would be killing muthas left and right. If they go with an R rating then it is totally likely we could get a scene like that. I'm not sure where this "Gambit never kills" idea came from but I don't buy into to it. As an X-Man he is trying to do the right thing but if the situation calls for it, I can totally see him having to put someone down.
You took my reply personally.. I didnt quote your post or anyone else's so this wouldn't happen funny enough. I was addressing everyone that thought it'd be okay to make Gambit rated R due to the nature of his powers. If it makes it any better, Purp feels similarly to you, but I disagree with him as well. My point had less to do with Gambit the character, and more to do with how ratings work. Violence against the human form is what counts as violence to the ratings setters. Only way to avoid that would be to cut away every time before the explosion set off. It's why you can have movies like John Wick (ignoring the language) Rated-R, but if they did a Gears of War movie (keeping the language under control) it could still be kept at PG-13. For instance, the Transformers movies stay under PG-13, but there's tons of violence and adult language and sexual situations, but that violence is padded because its fictional non-human beings and there's little to now blood spilt in the process. If you have Gambit using his powers in a lethal manner more than handful of times (in full view of the audience), it'd immediately get a "R" or at least PG-13, and then they'd have to tiptoe for the rest of the movie to keep there. It'd limit what they could do while trying to market it. Fox still wants a leading man to take Wolverine's spot. That is not Deadpool. They cant market Deadpool to kids as a movie to take them to. Keeping Gambit PG-13 allows them to market differently, have more screenings at different times of the day. It's much bigger than you all think.
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As for this "Gambit never kills" thing... who came up with that? I never did. But I can assure you, unlike Wolverine, I can recall every time he has on panel. Gambit can kill to defend his life or those around him, but he's not a killer. If any of you think otherwise, you never understood his character. He's more than his powers and shouldn't be defined by them. His powers are actually the opposite of who he is. They are brash, loud, and flashy. Gambit is smooth, charming and stealthy. It gives him depth. In a way you can say he doesnt even want his powers, at least not in the way most think. He tried to have them watered down and when he lost them after XXM, he didnt go on any journey to get them back. I can argue he adjusted and didnt really want them back all that much.
My outlook... If Gambit is going to be rated R for anything, it should be other things rather than violence. It's a new era Fox X-Men franchise, following Deadpool and Logan, it'd be expected. An R rating IMO should be because of content such as sexual situations. Now because that can easily push it up to PG-13 alone, they have room to tip it over by using language and THEN they can go over the top with a few scenes of graphic violence. But if anyone thinks it should get an R rating just due to his powers, then your asking for a movie that may not represent the Gambit you and I know, and most certainly not the one Fox, or Tatum want. It doesnt need to be Deadpool. If I'm looking at this right, they will use this as much a genre flick as they others. They got a Western in Logan, the action-comedy in Deadpool; Gambit is probably going to be something all its own. Most likely an action-thriller with healthy helpings of romance. It may even be a "caper" like the Thomas Crown Affair (but not nearly as stuffy, the main character makes things blow up lol) or crime-action-drama (again, not as serious though, still dealing with Channing Tatum here).
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Noone says that Gambit is a killer or should be a killer.
I was saying that Gambit explosives must be dangerous so I added a few posts ago link from X-Factor where Gambit always throws cards near enemies.
I hated Origins when Gambit threw deck of cards into Logan and it did no damage even to his clothes. He was just thrown through wall.
I doubt that Gambit will throw a lot of cards in movie but as for me they must be like grenades. He may throw them only in cars, near people or into robots but they must make big damage.
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Also I doubt that Gambit will be R.
If some characters will appear in it or sequel then it will be X-Men characters and not X-Force characters like in Deadpool.
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Noone says that Gambit is a killer or should be a killer.
I was saying that Gambit explosives must be dangerous so I added a few posts ago link from X-Factor where Gambit always throws cards near enemies.
I hated Origins when Gambit threw deck of cards into Logan and it did no damage even to his clothes. He was just thrown through wall.
I doubt that Gambit will throw a lot of cards in movie but as for me they must be like grenades. He may throw them only in cars, near people or into robots but they must make big damage.
That's the funny thing about Gambit's powers. What we saw in origins is actually within the scope of his abilities. Increasing an object kinetic potential doesnt necessarily mean "explosion". There are levels to his charging abilities. Look at his staff. Gambit charges his staff on numerous occassions, but not to explode. Increasing its kinetic potential allows him to hit an object with many times the force than he's physically capable of. When he charges a card it doesnt have to explode, but the explosion itself isnt because of it's stuffed with C4. The force coming from it a result of outward momentum, the molecules within the object moving away from each other violently creating an explosive reaction. For instance, he once charged a cage of basketballs and knocked it over. They werent moving at super speed, but once they made contact with a frenzied mob, it knocked everyone down and away like they all pushed back by firehose. Wolverine in the movie went through the wall 1; because he's effing heavy. 2; because of the applied force from the charged cards being thrown and making contact, not due to explosion. In a way, Gambit can turn his cards into razor blades, much like what happened when he threw a hand of them at Bullseye... he caught them and threw them back (still charged) and they sunk into his armored arm like they were made of metal.
And yeah purp, I get you. I responded to those pic by pointing out how the enemies are being blown away, not up. I would think that's on purpose seeing how much control he has over his powers. Gambit isn't out to kill anyone, but he also isn't allergic to the result, especially if the target has bad intentions.
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That's the funny thing about Gambit's powers. What we saw in origins is actually within the scope of his abilities. Increasing an object kinetic potential doesnt necessarily mean "explosion". There are levels to his charging abilities. Look at his staff. Gambit charges his staff on numerous occassions, but not to explode. Increasing its kinetic potential allows him to hit an object with many times the force than he's physically capable of. When he charges a card it doesnt have to explode, but the explosion itself isnt because of it's stuffed with C4. The force coming from it a result of outward momentum, the molecules within the object moving away from each other violently creating an explosive reaction. For instance, he once charged a cage of basketballs and knocked it over. They werent moving at super speed, but once they made contact with a frenzied mob, it knocked everyone down and away like they all pushed back by firehose. Wolverine in the movie went through the wall 1; because he's effing heavy. 2; because of the applied force from the charged cards being thrown and making contact, not due to explosion. In a way, Gambit can turn his cards into razor blades, much like what happened when he threw a hand of them at Bullseye... he caught them and threw them back (still charged) and they sunk into his armored arm like they were made of metal.
And yeah purp, I get you. I responded to those pic by pointing out how the enemies are being blown away, not up. I would think that's on purpose seeing how much control he has over his powers. Gambit isn't out to kill anyone, but he also isn't allergic to the result, especially if the target has bad intentions.
The same kinetic potential was shown in Gambit short with Daken. If they will use similar visual skills for movie then we will see even more scenes in comics where Gambit's explosions don't do any damage to Cap and others.
Also remembered Gambit vs Daken fight from comics when Remy blow up Daken's hand.
If Assassins would have powers in movie then I hope someone will be able to regenerate to use similar scene on him.
It was a really cool moment that shows how dangerous Remy's powers are.
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But that's my point. Because he's not defined by his powers and what they are capable of, the use of them does not denote the necessity or even the need for the movie to be Rated-R while in use of said powers. Just because he can, doesnt necessarily mean he should or world. Gambit has more potential to be deadly than he actual is. I think because he shows off what they are capable of, combined with how he carries himself, his red eyes and words, he bluffs more than threatens. He's hoping you take his warning, rather than wishing you wouldn't.
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Whoa, a lot to attempt to respond to.
purplevit, we are pretty much on the same page here. I was just trying to make a joke about how no one stays dead in the comics.
DonPriceTag, I don't mean to take things personally but when you say things like, "It's much bigger than you all think", "If any of you think otherwise, you never understood his character", "I think you should get the idea of Gambit blowing people up in a live action movie, out of your heads." etc it seems at least partially directed at me because I'm bringing it up in my posts. Is anyone saying it'd be ok or a good idea to make it rated R due to the nature of his powers? All I have said is if they do go for an R rating I'd be interested in a scene where he kills a big baddie using his powers. That is a totally possible scene if the movie is R. I feel that his powers have to be represented in a lethal way so he doesn't come off useless like in Origins. R or PG-13 I think direct hits from charged objects should be fatal. In an R rated movie the scene would of course be more graphic. I've explained ways for them to use it in non-fatal ways.
I've already said, that I don't think the R rating is necessary and should probably just be PG-13. I'm just talking about the possibility of it getting an R and something I think would be interesting to see in the movie. Blowing up a bad guy in a fun R rated action movie is usually very satisfying. As far as the where the "Gambit never kills" thing came from... all I did was bring up the fact that Gambit's charged projectiles should kill mortal humans to establish how deadly he is. That was met with "Gambit's not a killer" or "he's not Deadpool or Wolverine". Never said he was. But I think it's reasonable to have him kill a bad guy or two to establish how strong his powers are. Especially now being introduced to him before he's even on X-Men or anything. I just really don't want to see him hitting bad guys with cards or whatever just knocking them down and they get back up. It makes him look weak. By the way this can be done in PG-13 or a more graphic R.
We can agree to disagree on how his powers were portrayed in Origins. I think they made him look like a chump. Totally useless against Wolverine who is a character in the movies known to get his ass kicked all the time. And I totally understand your point about Gambit's cards not exploding, but you're coming at it from a nerdy Gambit fan perspective. As we all do. But for general audiences they should probably give it some type of really interesting colorful explosion. Ya know, to help the average Joe's fully understand the powers. Also a visual that separates him from Wolverine and Deadpool. And to come back to a previous point, even without the explosion, the cards have the force to knock a 300lbs Adimantium skeletoned man across the room and straight through through a brick wall. Those cards should easily smash straight through a mortal man's chest leaving a pretty massive hole or just obliterating his entire upper torso(should've hurt Wolverine a bit more as well. Just a bit ;) ). I remember thinking that was a bit un-characteristic of Gambit. Just because someone knows his name and knows something about his past, Gambit attempts to brutally kill them in public?
I don't think anyone is saying the movie needs to be R to properly portray Gambit's powers. Honestly, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that. So, I don't think that's something you need to worry about. If they wind up making the movie R it's probably due to sexuality/nudity and language like you said, and probably most blood and graphic violence would probably come from the villains. If that's the case I still can imagine a pretty satisfying bad guy death.
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So who should be big bad for frist movie?
Noone kne who Ajax from Deadpool was so I would go with Jullien with assassins and Candra.
Would love Sinister to appear only as Essex or villain from shadows.
Some marauders like Sabretooth or Scalphunter would be cool too. Sabretooth would alow to show Gambit`s powers in more brutal way because he can regenerate.
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purplevit, we are pretty much on the same page here. I was just trying to make a joke about how no one stays dead in the comics.
Yeah, we have similar view on that one ;)
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Whoa, a lot to attempt to respond to.
purplevit, we are pretty much on the same page here. I was just trying to make a joke about how no one stays dead in the comics.
DonPriceTag, I don't mean to take things personally but when you say things like, "It's much bigger than you all think", "If any of you think otherwise, you never understood his character", "I think you should get the idea of Gambit blowing people up in a live action movie, out of your heads." etc it seems at least partially directed at me because I'm bringing it up in my posts. Is anyone saying it'd be ok or a good idea to make it rated R due to the nature of his powers? All I have said is if they do go for an R rating I'd be interested in a scene where he kills a big baddie using his powers. That is a totally possible scene if the movie is R. I feel that his powers have to be represented in a lethal way so he doesn't come off useless like in Origins. R or PG-13 I think direct hits from charged objects should be fatal. In an R rated movie the scene would of course be more graphic. I've explained ways for them to use it in non-fatal ways.
I've already said, that I don't think the R rating is necessary and should probably just be PG-13. I'm just talking about the possibility of it getting an R and something I think would be interesting to see in the movie. Blowing up a bad guy in a fun R rated action movie is usually very satisfying. As far as the where the "Gambit never kills" thing came from... all I did was bring up the fact that Gambit's charged projectiles should kill mortal humans to establish how deadly he is. That was met with "Gambit's not a killer" or "he's not Deadpool or Wolverine". Never said he was. But I think it's reasonable to have him kill a bad guy or two to establish how strong his powers are. Especially now being introduced to him before he's even on X-Men or anything. I just really don't want to see him hitting bad guys with cards or whatever just knocking them down and they get back up. It makes him look weak. By the way this can be done in PG-13 or a more graphic R.
We can agree to disagree on how his powers were portrayed in Origins. I think they made him look like a chump. Totally useless against Wolverine who is a character in the movies known to get his ass kicked all the time. And I totally understand your point about Gambit's cards not exploding, but you're coming at it from a nerdy Gambit fan perspective. As we all do. But for general audiences they should probably give it some type of really interesting colorful explosion. Ya know, to help the average Joe's fully understand the powers. Also a visual that separates him from Wolverine and Deadpool. And to come back to a previous point, even without the explosion, the cards have the force to knock a 300lbs Adimantium skeletoned man across the room and straight through through a brick wall. Those cards should easily smash straight through a mortal man's chest leaving a pretty massive hole or just obliterating his entire upper torso(should've hurt Wolverine a bit more as well. Just a bit ;) ). I remember thinking that was a bit un-characteristic of Gambit. Just because someone knows his name and knows something about his past, Gambit attempts to brutally kill them in public?
I don't think anyone is saying the movie needs to be R to properly portray Gambit's powers. Honestly, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that. So, I don't think that's something you need to worry about. If they wind up making the movie R it's probably due to sexuality/nudity and language like you said, and probably most blood and graphic violence would probably come from the villains. If that's the case I still can imagine a pretty satisfying bad guy death.
Purp and several of us have been talking about this for weeks now... I also believe your adding connotation or emotion to my posts where there is none. I promise you, there is no emotion on my part. I'm not being condescending, I'm talking. If I'm talking to you directly, you will know because I'll quote your statement. You're pointing out things I said in a prior a post AFTER I quoted you. My original post was addressing your statement about "not knowing if people read your posts", as you were assuming I was talking or referring to you. I was not. Not really. I really can't help you if you think I'm taking some sort of "shot" at you. I'm not but... again I cant do anything but say that "I'm not". I'm talking about how ratings work and how willing Gambit, the character, would be to use his powers to kill without cause along with what Fox is looking for in a Gambit character played by Channing Tatum (never brought up this thing about him needing to kill a villain... I don't see how that would be different from anything else we've seen, so it's basically a given). The kind of violence necessary for an R rating isnt what Gambit is... maybe for the short period in time before he turned into Mr. Romance, but he's been Mr. Remorse much longer. If you're not talking about what I'm talking about... why are you taking anything I'm saying to heart? Especially if I'm not quoting anything your saying? I'm not combative. I like discussion and the challenging of ideas. Nothing more. And the "r" rating as it relates to his powers, I wasn't the one that brought that up. Again, we've been going back and forth for months now, it may have been Purp that originally brought up the notion and then it was brought up again recently.
I also never mentioned my "feelings" about Origins. I merely talked about how his powers worked. If you must know, I hated X3 and Origins. Watched both once and will never watched either ever again. I think you may be reading too far into my posts?
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Purp and several of us have been talking about this for weeks now... I also believe your adding connotation or emotion to my posts where there is none. I promise you, there is no emotion on my part. I'm not being condescending, I'm talking. If I'm talking to you directly, you will know because I'll quote your statement. You're pointing out things I said in a prior a post AFTER I quoted you. My original post was addressing your statement about "not knowing if people read your posts", as you were assuming I was talking or referring to you. I was not. Not really. I really can't help you if you think I'm taking some sort of "shot" at you. I'm not but... again I cant do anything but say that "I'm not". I'm talking about how ratings work and how willing Gambit, the character, would be to use his powers to kill without cause along with what Fox is looking for in a Gambit character played by Channing Tatum (never brought up this thing about him needing to kill a villain... I don't see how that would be different from anything else we've seen, so it's basically a given). The kind of violence necessary for an R rating isnt what Gambit is... maybe for the short period in time before he turned into Mr. Romance, but he's been Mr. Remorse much longer. If you're not talking about what I'm talking about... why are you taking anything I'm saying to heart? Especially if I'm not quoting anything your saying? I'm not combative. I like discussion and the challenging of ideas. Nothing more. And the "r" rating as it relates to his powers, I wasn't the one that brought that up. Again, we've been going back and forth for months now, it may have been Purp that originally brought up the notion and then it was brought up again recently.
I also never mentioned my "feelings" about Origins. I merely talked about how his powers worked. If you must know, I hated X3 and Origins. Watched both once and will never watched either ever again. I think you may be reading too far into my posts?
Listen, I am not adding any emotion to your posts. All I am trying to do is have a dialogue and address the idea that people feel the film should be R rated due to the nature of Gambit's powers and the idea people think Gambit's a killer using my own personal take on it. Personally, I think perhaps you are putting a bit of emotion in to my posts because I am talking to you directly. I'm just trying to understand your take on it that is still a little hazy TO ME. Trust me, it's all love in here for me and never did I feel like you took a shot at me. I just love talking about this stuff and I'm just trying to figure out your point on that it because it doesn't seem like purplevit feels that way either. Once again, just giving my take on things and certainly don't mean to come off like I've been slighted or disrespected or anything. Because I certainly don't feel that I have. :cheers:
Definitely my mistake about Origins. I thought you were defending how they portrayed Gambit's powers in that movie as a good idea. Which you were not. But take out that first sentence and it's still a decent point.
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Tatum has a new TV show on Amazon. He'll be busy at least until we actually do get some Gambit movie news. At this point, I'm not holding my breath.
It took a very long time before Deadpool was made ... who knows.
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Tatum has a new TV show on Amazon. He'll be busy at least until we actually do get some Gambit movie news. At this point, I'm not holding my breath.
It took a very long time before Deadpool was made ... who knows.
It seems he is just voicing character for this show.
Well he is just an actor. If FOX will be able to start production at the beginning of 2018 then I think everything will be ok.
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Like I've said in the past.. the guy's gotta pay his bills in the meantime lol.
I'm confident the movie will happen. With Tatum.
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So who should be big bad for frist movie?
Noone kne who Ajax from Deadpool was so I would go with Jullien with assassins and Candra.
Would love Sinister to appear only as Essex or villain from shadows.
Some marauders like Sabretooth or Scalphunter would be cool too. Sabretooth would alow to show Gambit`s powers in more brutal way because he can regenerate.
Good question. I'm really not sure. It all depends on the story they decide to tell. If I had it my way, the movie would take place after Gambit had been exiled from the guild and is out on his own. I would tell his back story in flashback. I guess there could be some assassins after him for payback. Maybe a Julien brought back from the dead. I love the idea of Candra being involved. I definitely think there should be some sort of female villain because gambit shines when he has to deal with women especially foes. But the assassins after him wouldn't be his only challenge as I still like the idea of it being a heist thriller. Maybe some shady characters he has to work with and cast Bryan Cranston as Sinister to be the big baddie in the background(for now). Something along those lines. I like the idea of Sabertooth in it but I'm not sure if they would do that.
Hey Neko, are you not holding your breath for this movie to happen anytime soon or ever?
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You can't tell what's on the minds of these execs but if I were up there I'd start using Sinister. He's a puppet master. I'd give him his first appearance in Gambit and start connecting dots that would eventually wind up in an X-Men movie with a him as the headline villain. But in the case of this movie he wouldn't be known as Sinister. I'd utilize his shapeshifting for a reveal at the end. I'd have him be manipulating everything around him, possibly using the Externals as a motivation (have him chasing immortality). On the surface, make villain of the movie be members of the Assassin's Guild (to build up Gambit's world) but set Sinister up for a end credit or cliffhanger reveal.
Because of Tatum's age we aren't going to be able to focus too much on his early years. They can have his reasoning for not being in NOLA the conflict with Julian but it can't be the center unless they are going to have more than one actor (playing young him), spend a good chunk in flashbacks or mangle his backstory. Again, only because Tatum doesn't look 18, and a late 20s Gambit just getting kicked out of NOLA is kinda boring. I hope we catch up with him after years of being away. The movie can have him return and the audience can discover as he gets reacquainted.
The pure origins story is probably left to a episodic format with a young actor and cast.
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Hey Neko, are you not holding your breath for this movie to happen anytime soon or ever?
*chuckles* I'm skeptical. Priorities changed for the Fox movie house. As time goes by, Tatum gets older. This movie needs to be underway.
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I think that Amazon thing is just a movie. And he's only doing voiceover for it.
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I hope we catch up with him after years of being away. The movie can have him return and the audience can discover as he gets reacquainted.
Definetely the best way to make first movie for me. And it will create some mystary.
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Yup... best way to go about this would be the way of Deadpool and Cable. Throw Gambit right into the fire and if you want, reveals his origins sporadically or leave it a mystery.
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Agreed with you guys. Make a movie, we don't need origins. That can be touched upon later. I would like to keep the mystery too. :)
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not like they have a choice. Unlike Deadpool, who's origins began well into adulthood, Gambit's active origins started in his teens. Just not going to work unless they want half the movie to be played with different actors. Tatum and anyone around him (Julien, Bella, assuming there will be anything shot in NOLA) probably arent going to look youthful enough to be believably in their late teens or early 20s. The more time this takes (the older Tatum gets), the less likely it'll be an origins, which imo is a good thing. It also makes it less likely he'll be joining up with the current crop of younger X-Men, making it way more likely for his movie to take place in the same timeline as Deadpool and possibly New Mutants (no way New Mutants takes place in the current X-Men timeline, that being the 80s-90s).
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We may not see him in his teens (although the issue where we learn why he uses throwing cards is one of my favorites), but we COULD see a scene or two of him as a baby with the red and black eyes.. a la X-Men Origins: Gambit.
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I think an origins story can still work if its similar to "Batman Begins," meaning it chronicles his childhood, early 20s (yeah, I think Tatum could drop some weight and pass for early 20s) and late 20s.
As for the villain? I'd go with Julien and introduce Sinister in the after credit scenes.
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Sinister's been hinted at a lot but still hasn't been revealed... and I doubt it'll come in Dark Phoenix. So maybe finally showing up in the Gambit movie could be where we see him.
Personally, I want Liev Schreiber back. He was originally supposed to be back for LOGAN, but they ended up not using him. So he's obviously game to reprise the role.
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Channing Tatum thanks Deadpool and Logan for helping Gambit ‘buck the system and do something different’
http://metro.co.uk/video/channing-tatum-doing-gambit-1522421/ (http://metro.co.uk/video/channing-tatum-doing-gambit-1522421/)
Channing admitted that the film is still moving forward but that ‘it’s not ready until it’s ready and the studios have to play a chess game with real estate and giving dates and scaring people off certain dates and grab as much real estate as they can’.
‘I’ve never told anybody when we’re going to make this thing [but] we’ve got really lucky in a way, it’s been a blessing in disguise because we were making a certain type of movie that was really hard to reinvent and you get a lot of push back when you try to do something different,’ he added, ‘but then Deadpool and Logan came through and lit a stack of dynamite in that door and blew it off for us so now we’re going off and really able to buck the system and do something different.’
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Thanks for the update. It's good to see his excitement for the project.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9jCaRfnFjQ
Logan Lucky Producer Reid Carolin on Soderbergh's latest and Gambit movie
Reid Carolin: We are working on Gambit. We have a new script coming soon. I am pretty confident and excited about it.
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Soderbergh is a good director and seems to enjoy working with Tatum, I'm surprised they haven't convinced him to direct Gambit.
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http://www.cbr.com/gambit-film-started-over/
more of the same
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Soderbergh is a good director and seems to enjoy working with Tatum, I'm surprised they haven't convinced him to direct Gambit.
I've thought the same thing.
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John Campea briefly chats about the Gambit movie. Start at about 44 min mark.
https://youtu.be/qh5swdCV99k
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*shrug* Another "development hell=dead" opinion. I'll believe it's dead when we get some form of confirmation from someone actually involved with it.
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Channing Tatum Reveals Why Gambit Will Be Different To Any Other Marvel Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iczej0h3qcA
Tatum: We rebooted the entire thing. It shouldn`t feel like a big superhero movie and that`s my hope for it. It will feel more like a very tiny sort of New Orleans, crazy, just insane film.
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Not a big super hero movie is fine, he's more of a 'street level' type character. Not so sure about 'very tiny'...
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I also agree that it doesn't need to be a superhero movie. I think it needs to lean in a James Bond or Indy Jones sort of thing but more grounded to New Orleans.
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Yup. The trick is to make the movie a different genre with superhero elements. Not the other way around.
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CBR article about the film
http://www.cbr.com/gambit-x-men-spinoff-film-history/?utm_source=CBR-TW&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=CBR-TW&view=list
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CBR article about the film
http://www.cbr.com/gambit-x-men-spinoff-film-history/?utm_source=CBR-TW&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=CBR-TW&view=list (http://www.cbr.com/gambit-x-men-spinoff-film-history/?utm_source=CBR-TW&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=CBR-TW&view=list)
Fine summary
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It's too bad that all we still get are summaries though. I need newwwwwssssss.
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It's too bad that all we still get are summaries though. I need newwwwwssssss.
With the last update we got a few months ago I have assumed we won't be getting any real news until possibly the very end of this year. At least we now have confirmation that they are hard at work at it. With them finishing up the script and getting the story pieces together as we speak it really seems like we shouldn't expect real news just yet. I'm still thinking hopefully by the end of the year.
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Why Channing Tatum Loves Gambit So Much
https://www.cinemablend.com/news/1699969/why-channing-tatum-loves-gambit-so-much (https://www.cinemablend.com/news/1699969/why-channing-tatum-loves-gambit-so-much)
Tatum: “There wasn’t a comic store, but the cartoon was on TV and he was this cool Cajun guy, and he was the easiest person to play as a kid because you could just unscrew the broom handle, get a pack of cards and wrap a bandana around your head. We had a lot of fun throwing cards and trying to take our friends’ eyes out across the living room. He is just cool, man. He is one of the few superheroes that has an actual culture to him. He doesn’t talk like a vanilla American. He is from a specific geo-location, New Orleans, which is a really specific thing.”
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This is one of the many great things about this show. It really got a lot of kids interested and a lot started looking into the comics. Even me, I liked comics but this show definitely started to get me focusing more on X-Men. It was a simple transition. For the most part you could go from watching the show and then go pick up an X-Men book and pretty much get what was going on. Kind of brilliant.
Honestly that's a big misstep in my opinion today with comics. Marvel currently has such popular movies but if you were a kid and decided to pick up some current comics you wouldn't understand anything or anyone. It seems like it would just be a turn off.
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http://www.cbr.com/gambit-plot-details-mr-sinister/ sounds ok and Meh at the same time especially ih his recruits are Multiple Man and Moonstar, should just go with the Marauders ...i mean come on
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http://www.cbr.com/gambit-plot-details-mr-sinister/ (http://www.cbr.com/gambit-plot-details-mr-sinister/) sounds ok and Meh at the same time especially ih his recruits are Multiple Man and Moonstar, should just go with the Marauders ...i mean come on
I bet Purp would love Madrox to show up in this :P lol. Weird that he'd recruit Dani, though. I'd prefer Laura. Or even Jubilee. OR Frenzy.
Pumped for the prospect of Sinister. My favorite villain of all time.
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I say we ignore this. CBR says they're "rumors", yet the site they link to that provides a more detailed summary does' appear to cite any sources. (Or I'm not looking in the right spot...)
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Don't believe it.
Yes, Madrox could be fan in it:)
The truth is that Gambit never shared panels with Madrox or Dani.
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More info about how I understand "old" script
https://www.google.com.ua/amp/splashreport.com/exclusive-gambit-story-details/amp/
Actually, wasn't a fan. Not sure if Gambit was stealed as baby at all. All this didn't really excites me so I am glad they decided to make it from the beginning
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Don't believe it.
Yes, Madrox could be fan in it:)
The truth is that Gambit never shared panels with Madrox or Dani.
Eh.. It's totally understandable to not believe the rumor, but not because of the other characters mentioned. Deadpool never shared panels with Colossus never shared panels with Negasonic Teenage freaking Warhead lol.
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Didn't Gambit interact with the New Mutants during Second Coming in Limbo? That whole Deathbit thing? But I like the idea. If it's real... I think if it wasn't someone would have been able to disprove it before publishing it or after. I'm not betting on it but sometimes this is done intentionally to get a feel for the fan response. Have no clue if this, is that. But CBR and Screenrant both reporting it gives it a bit more cred.
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I don`t remember Dani in Limbo squad.
It is just a possible short plot. It could be a good movie or could be a bad. I wasn`t a fan of his origin plot or how they described it.
Second part of movie soubnded better for me.
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Eh.. It's totally understandable to not believe the rumor, but not because of the other characters mentioned. Deadpool never shared panels with Colossus never shared panels with Negasonic Teenage freaking Warhead lol.
Yeah, Deadpool movie is a good example.
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Interesting. If this is true and that is an accurate description of the script it seems like an early version. And I have to say they seemed like they were on the right track from the beginning. I remember after the first script was written and went around to actors and agents there was a buzz that it was a good script. So I'm very interested in what it looks like now and how they feel they've improved it.
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Wasn't there some time where the script wasn't right? Its so confusing. Wished there was more concrete news for the film.
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If I remember right, the news was first that Chris Claremont wrote a treatment and then Josh Zetumer wrote the screenplay. I remember a couple sources saying that it was a good script and they started auditioning Rebecca Ferguson, Abby Lee, and Lea Seydoux for Belladonna and articles reported that it was a highly contested role. Lea Seydoux landed the role and I believe after this is when the rumor of Channing Tatum leaving the project came out. And even though it was reported that that rumor was totally false a few days later after he officially signed on, from that point on all the negativity and delays followed including Rupert Wyatt dropping out months later.
So I wonder if the script being reported on was this first script they seemed to be going with for a bit. Seems likely.
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I think it was old script too.
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It could be from the new script, it could be from the old script, it could be some guy in his basement making stuff up just see how many people believe him... ;)
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Sure. But I believe the point we're making is if someone did read a Gambit script and leaked the plot details to these sites, then it would most likely be the early version of the script due to the fact it apparently went out to people. There was even a casting call that was online for the movie. Honestly, when there was buzz going around about the Gambit script being good, I remember thinking that the script might leak online at some point. But I haven't thought about it in a while until these alleged plot details of the Gambit movie script came out.
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True or not but now I really want to see Remy and Madrox on heist. At least in comics.
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True or not but now I really want to see Remy and Madrox on heist. At least in comics.
Agreed. Would be so much fun.
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Maddrox would be such an asset being able to multiply and create distractions. :D
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Black Bolt Actor Had Wanted to Play Gambit
http://screenrant.com/inhumans-anson-mount-gambit/
Anson Mount: “I wanted to be Gambit for a really long time, and then Channing Tatum ruined that for me! But I think he’s gonna do a great job.”
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And now he has to play Black Bolt.
Poor guy. :crazy2:
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And now he has to play Black Bolt.
Poor guy. :crazy2:
Ha ha)) Definetely ;D
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If I hadn't watched the Inhumans the other night, I wouldn't have known who you were talking about. He would have made a good Gambit I think.
As for Black Bolt ... wow, do I not get that character! LOL
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http://splashreport.com/exclusive-daniel-craig-lucky-bond-gambit/
EXCLUSIVE: DOES DANIEL CRAIG HAVE A “LUCKY BOND” WITH GAMBIT?
THERE ARE “CONVERSATIONS” ABOUT LOCKING UP DANIEL CRAIG TO BE NATHANIEL ESSEX, A.K.A. MR. SINISTER IN GAMBIT AND ALSO IN OTHER X-MEN MOVIES.
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Good find purplevit. Daniel Craig seems like a great fit. I thought after Bryan Cranston announced his interest to play Sinister they would go after him considering how much everyone loves him. But I like this option too. We'll see what happens.
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If it is true then it is good that FOX are looking for someone big as Sinister.
But I am not a fan of Craig.
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Please please please Fox, make this happen. He'd be as good as it gets for Sinister.
Ugh I'd be freaking thrilled.
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Yet another director, Gore Verbinski this time.
Know for
Pirates of the Caribbean 1-3
Rango
The Ring
The Lone Ranger
A Cure for Wellness
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Wow! Crazy!
https://io9.gizmodo.com/report-channing-tatums-gambit-movie-may-have-a-new-dir-1819197825 (https://io9.gizmodo.com/report-channing-tatums-gambit-movie-may-have-a-new-dir-1819197825)
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Great news! Thanks. It seems project is moving :)
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Regarding Gambit movie, do you think it will be in present timeline (Deadpool 2, X-Force) or past (Dark phoenix)?
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Present if they're smart. It would make no sense to put him in the past.
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Cool Gambit fan poster
?tagged=gambit
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Present if they're smart. It would make no sense to put him in the past.
I hope present too. But all X-Men movies are in past. It seems only Deadpool and X-Force are in present.
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LOL, found it after news about Gore Verbinski for GAMBIT
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7wTyMoVsAEIvOg.jpg (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7wTyMoVsAEIvOg.jpg)
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I have lurked on this board for like 10 years (maybe longer?), and I have been following the Gambit movie drama since day one. I'm probably like everyone else here and have been dreaming of a Gambit movie since the early 90's. I was blown away when it was announced that Fox was actually going to produce it. Dream come true.
Anyway, what prompted me to finally make an account is the fact that I am ecstatic with all of the latest news of what's going on with the Gambit film.
1. I was bummed when we lost Doug Liman, I thought he would have been a good fit. But then I just got the news that they found a new director. I clicked the article hoping for someone halfway decent, and when I read the name Gore Verbinski, my jaw almost hit the floor. He is seriously one of my favorite directors of all time. Few directors can create movies as saturated with atmosphere as Gore. Not to mention that he proved he can do action just as well. So pumped that he's on board (now let's just hope he stays on board, lol).
2. Just the fact that Mr. Sinister, one of Marvels greatest villains, will be making his debut in the Gambit film is so freaking perfect. And I never thought about Daniel Craig playing him, but as soon as I read that I instantly realized that would be perfect casting.
3. I'm a big fan of the rumor of all the supporting X-Men characters that might show up in the film. If they treat the supporting cast the way the Deadpool film did, it'll be amazing.
I don't know. I just feel things are finally moving along in a really positive direction for the Gambit film. The wait I think will totally be worth it.
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Pro: director of Pirates of the Caribbean, my fav movie
Con: directed the first two sequels
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Pro: director of Pirates of the Caribbean, my fav movie
Con: directed the first two sequels
He directed the sequels, didn't write them lol. I thought the directing was good, but it's overshadowed by s***ty scripts.
Oh yeah, which is another reason I'm excited with the Gambit movie. It seems like they really took their time with getting the script right. Now, yeah. . . that coulda totally just been an excuse they told people as the reason for the delays. But I'm hopeful.
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I have lurked on this board for like 10 years (maybe longer?), and I have been following the Gambit movie drama since day one. I'm probably like everyone else here and have been dreaming of a Gambit movie since the early 90's. I was blown away when it was announced that Fox was actually going to produce it. Dream come true.
Anyway, what prompted me to finally make an account is the fact that I am ecstatic with all of the latest news of what's going on with the Gambit film.
1. I was bummed when we lost Doug Liman, I thought he would have been a good fit. But then I just got the news that they found a new director. I clicked the article hoping for someone halfway decent, and when I read the name Gore Verbinski, my jaw almost hit the floor. He is seriously one of my favorite directors of all time. Few directors can create movies as saturated with atmosphere as Gore. Not to mention that he proved he can do action just as well. So pumped that he's on board (now let's just hope he stays on board, lol).
2. Just the fact that Mr. Sinister, one of Marvels greatest villains, will be making his debut in the Gambit film is so freaking perfect. And I never thought about Daniel Craig playing him, but as soon as I read that I instantly realized that would be perfect casting.
3. I'm a big fan of the rumor of all the supporting X-Men characters that might show up in the film. If they treat the supporting cast the way the Deadpool film did, it'll be amazing.
I don't know. I just feel things are finally moving along in a really positive direction for the Gambit film. The wait I think will totally be worth it.
After possiblr leaked story and new rumoured director there are more possitive comments about Gambit movie on sites where he was hardly hated before. So I think it goes in right direction.
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He directed the sequels, didn't write them lol. I thought the directing was good, but it's overshadowed by s***ty scripts.
I know and I agree—but he’s still guilty by association for having any involvement. :-p
Honestly, I’m not worried about him, but i’m still cautious about this whole thing.
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I liked Wyatt and Liman options but I think Vebinski is better choice for Gambit movie. I think he can make Gambit more spectular character.
But movies from Liman I like more.
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I liked Wyatt and Liman options but I think Vebinski is better choice for Gambit movie. I think he can make Gambit more spectular character.
But movies from Liman I like more.
Same. I think the tone Limen would have brought would have been perfect seeing what he did with Mr and Mrs Smith and Edge of Tomorrow. Tense with a constant presence of humor each with it's own personally and identity.
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Daniel Craig as Sinister.
Gore Verbinski as director.
Still too bad that Tatum will be Gambit (I think he's too old now).
But with all this star power maybe this thing will finally get made.
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Daniel Craig as Sinister.
Gore Verbinski as director.
Still too bad that Tatum will be Gambit (I think he's too old now).
But with all this star power maybe this thing will finally get made.
I think he's going to lose a gang of weight and rock it out to the best of his ability. I think he's going to surprise us. But this is definitely going to be a fully formed Gambit in terms of his the age he'll be portraying. I always saw Gambit as being in his late 20s, early 30s. Tatum can pull that off
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Daniel Craig as Sinister.
Gore Verbinski as director.
Still too bad that Tatum will be Gambit (I think he's too old now).
But with all this star power maybe this thing will finally get made.
I think Tatum will be great and really surprise everyone.
Really doubt that Daniel Craig will be Sinister and hope that Gore Verbinski will stay as director
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I think he's going to lose a gang of weight and rock it out to the best of his ability. I think he's going to surprise us. But this is definitely going to be a fully formed Gambit in terms of his the age he'll be portraying. I always saw Gambit as being in his late 20s, early 30s. Tatum can pull that off
I agree. He'll get cut up a little bit for the role and look the part. And I think being full-fledged Gambit already is the way to go for the movie. If they want, they can cast a young Gambit to show flashbacks... kind of like in the Uncharted series with a young Nathan Drake. But Gambit's always been on the older side of the X-men anyway, in my view, so the movie starting with him already at that age makes sense to me.
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I think he's going to lose a gang of weight and rock it out to the best of his ability. I think he's going to surprise us. But this is definitely going to be a fully formed Gambit in terms of his the age he'll be portraying. I always saw Gambit as being in his late 20s, early 30s. Tatum can pull that off
Yeah, he said in this article (https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/entertainthis/2015/07/02/channing-tatum-gambit/77523954/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/entertainthiS/2015/07/02/channing-tatum-gambit/77523954/)) from a couple years ago that he's working to lose some muscle mass, so he's even aware that he's a little too bulky for the role.
Personally, I hated the idea of him as Gambit when it was first announced but he's really won me over the last couple years with how dedicated he is to getting this movie made. Throw in Craig as my favorite X-Villain and I'm sold.
Edit: For some reason it's not letting me hyperlink.
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Edit: For some reason it's not letting me hyperlink.
It's a default setting to avoid spammers. You need to reach a certain number of posts before you are able to link with no problem. Just keep posting, once the magic number is met, good to go. I'll fix for now. :)
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The prospect of actually getting Mister Sinister in this movie has got me WAY too giddy.
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Channing Tatum’s ‘Gambit’ Gets A Working Title
https://heroichollywood.com/channing-tatum-gambit-working-title/
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http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/895353-gambit-release-set-for-february-2019
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Yay!!!! It is time for happy dances :D
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A working title and a release date in the same afternoon. More giddiness!
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I thought Chess was just the name on the casting call they did.
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John Campea talking about the news.
https://youtu.be/1-RFt2vQdak
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It's a shame there's already a movie called Gambit because man, Chess just does NOT do it for me. But by working title it's probably likely to change?
But yeah FINALLY!!
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John Campea talking about the news.
https://youtu.be/1-RFt2vQdak (https://youtu.be/1-RFt2vQdak)
Ha ha) I remember how he told a month ago that he thinks Gambit movie is dead :)
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It's a shame there's already a movie called Gambit because man, Chess just does NOT do it for me. But by working title it's probably likely to change?
But yeah FINALLY!!
Working title is just what they call it during production. It's not going to actually be called "Chess"
Deadpool 2's working title is "Love Machine"
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It's a default setting to avoid spammers. You need to reach a certain number of posts before you are able to link with no problem. Just keep posting, once the magic number is met, good to go. I'll fix for now. :)
Ah, thank you! That makes sense
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Working title is just what they call it during production. It's not going to actually be called "Chess"
Deadpool 2's working title is "Love Machine"
Just a working title. I doubt that'll end up the name. More than likely it'll be Gambit with a subtitle like; King of Thieves, or something
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It's a shame there's already a movie called Gambit because man, Chess just does NOT do it for me. But by working title it's probably likely to change?
But yeah FINALLY!!
That movie you are talking about is OLD. And I've tried watching it and I could get past the first 15 minutes. I think the only worry is anyone thinking its a remake or something. :)
Working title is just what they call it during production. It's not going to actually be called "Chess"
Deadpool 2's working title is "Love Machine"
As working titles go, again its good. I doubt “Chess” will be the title … its too vague in general.
Ah, thank you! That makes sense
No problem.
Agree with you Don, it will be more Xmen sounding as far as titles go.
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Just a working title. I doubt that'll end up the name. More than likely it'll be Gambit with a subtitle like; King of Thieves, or something
I'm kind of thinking they will attach the X-Men name to the title somehow. I feel like the GA isn't super familiar with Gambit and Fox will want to associate him with the franchise as a whole. Of course, now that I'm thinking about it, Legion, The Gifted, and New Mutants don't have it either, so who knows.
I do hope it has a subtitle like King of Thieves though. That would be so bad ass.
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That movie you are talking about is OLD. And I've tried watching it and I could get past the first 15 minutes. I think the only worry is anyone thinking its a remake or something. :)
It's an old film, yeah, I've never seen it. BUT they did a remake sort of recently, starring Colin Firth I think. Funny story, I was lurking on some forum or another, maybe CBR, and somebody absolutely LOST IT because they saw that there was a Gambit movie coming out, in just a few short months. And everybody was like, no dude, nothing to do with the X-Men, but he wouldn't accept this at all, he was overcome with joy that there was a Gambit movie coming out, even though everybody was telling him it's something else entirely. Plus, no casting, no buzz, nothing, but somehow it was coming out in a month or so. Some people, huh?
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Collider talks about it at length during their show. I remember Schnepp saying it was "dead" just a while ago and how no one wants to see a Gambit movie. No Schnepp, you 80s rose-colored glasses wearing snobs don't want to.
https://youtu.be/oG0crDTEbWs
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All Gambit solos and minis were just "Gambit". Not Astonishing Gambit, Mighty Gambit or Gambit: King of Thieves. So movie must be just "Gambit" too.
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Collider talks about it at length during their show. I remember Schnepp saying it was "dead" just a while ago and how no one wants to see a Gambit movie. No Schnepp, you 80s rose-colored glasses wearing snobs don't want to.
https://youtu.be/oG0crDTEbWs (https://youtu.be/oG0crDTEbWs)
Remember it too!
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It's an old film, yeah, I've never seen it. BUT they did a remake sort of recently, starring Colin Firth I think. Funny story, I was lurking on some forum or another, maybe CBR, and somebody absolutely LOST IT because they saw that there was a Gambit movie coming out, in just a few short months. And everybody was like, no dude, nothing to do with the X-Men, but he wouldn't accept this at all, he was overcome with joy that there was a Gambit movie coming out, even though everybody was telling him it's something else entirely. Plus, no casting, no buzz, nothing, but somehow it was coming out in a month or so. Some people, huh?
So, I had to look up this remake! Wow, there really was one. :) And it didn't do well. LOL
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All Gambit solos and minis were just "Gambit". Not Astonishing Gambit, Mighty Gambit or Gambit: King of Thieves. So movie must be just "Gambit" too.
Gambit the most mysterious x-man of all :D
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All Gambit solos and minis were just "Gambit". Not Astonishing Gambit, Mighty Gambit or Gambit: King of Thieves. So movie must be just "Gambit" too.
I agree.. I see it just being called Gambit as well
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Got an audition tape from Gambit and Candra is supposed to appear in the movie.
http://omegaunderground.com/2017/10/14/exclusive-gambit-audition-tape-explores-remys-relationship-with-bella-donna-candra/
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Thanks for that. Interesting to see that they were considering other actresses besides Lea Seydoux.
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I hope Seydoux stays she's a good actress and very pretty (not that the latter is very important but hey the ladies are getting Tatum so why not!)
I also hope they keep Candra maybe as a secondary villain?
Although holy cow I'm glad they're changing that script, ugh, it's almost painful!
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http://omegaunderground.com/2017/10/15/exclusive-immortal-supervillain-candra-expected-gambit-externals-coming/amp/
EXCLUSIVE: Immortal Supervillain Candra Expected For ‘Gambit’ – Are The Externals Coming?
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I'm loving the incoming rumors and news we're getting. Whether some of it's true or not, it means the wheels are spinning on the project.
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Hey Purp,
For some reason that particular site when copy and pasting link, leaves off the beginning of its address. Which is why your linking isn't working.
All that is missing is the http://
Took me a few to figure it out on the first one. :)
RE:
As for the content, yeah, I agree with the rest of you, good to hear some stuff. It seems like we were in a drought. I also thought that audition was painful. LOL
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Audition tapes are weird because more often than not we don't see the two characters interacting with each other. We get stuff like this, where we see one character and then hear Rando #1, in a totally different accent nonetheless, probably a producer or casting member, and there's negative chemistry between them lol
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Hey Purp,
For some reason that particular site when copy and pasting link, leaves off the beginning of its address. Which is why your linking isn't working.
All that is missing is the http://
Took me a few to figure it out on the first one. :)
RE:
As for the content, yeah, I agree with the rest of you, good to hear some stuff. It seems like we were in a drought. I also thought that audition was painful. LOL
Thanks for changing it, Neko :)
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Haven't posted in here in a while. A lot of stuff going on and I'm all over it. Here it goes.
February 14th 2019 is a perfect date for this movie. Pretty much exactly what i was hoping for. That has been a successful time of year for movies like this. So we can assume filming will start sometime early 2018. By the end of this year they should have most pieces in place for production and casting.
I would really like to hear confirmation on Gore Verbinski from FOX themselves soon.
Don't worry everyone, this movie is not going to be called "Chess". This is the same working title from the first go around. I would expect them to just call the movie "Gambit". It fits the best and no one is going to confuse it with another film. I highly doubt they will put "X-Men" in the title. That would just be an awful decision and defeat the whole purpose of what they're trying to do by establishing Gambit on his own. Personally I think they are going to line up the Gambit film with the Deadpool movies. Just a much better idea at the moment.
Great find on that audition tape purplevit. Really fun to watch. I kind of liked her. Auditions like that are odd and don't necessarily represent what the finished product would be. I wonder if there is any truth to FOX still liking Lea Seydoux for Belladonna. And if there is any truth to Candra being in the movie, that is very interesting. A Gambit movie with Belladonna, Candra, and Sinister in it?... Sign me up.
I really hope it's mostly good news from here on out. This production really can't afford anymore bad press at this point.
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What a lovely day :gambit:
Gambit Movie Recruits Mad Max Costume Designer
http://screenrant.com/gambit-movie-costume-designer/
Omega Underground is reporting that Beavan has joined the Gambit team and will be providing the costumes for Tatum’s namesake, among other mutant characters in the movie. Beavan not only won her second Oscar for her Mad Max: Fury Road costumes, she has also provided the striking outfits for several noteworthy period dramas over the years; ranging from Guy Ritchie’s Sherlock Holmes movies to Best Picture Oscar-winner The King’s Speech.
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Hey purplevit, you are right on top of this stuff. I love it. thank you. I love this news. Even though I am not a fan of Mad Max Fury Road(mainly because I love the original three so much) the costumes and look of everyone is terrific. I think that's a great fit and really gets me excited for the look of this movie now.
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Definitely a nice pickup. Please deliver the coat, gloves, headpiece (maybe), and some purple.
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Very good news indeed.
I actually hope they go with a totally non-superhero costume and more of a like, underground New Orleans crime getup, y'know?
Anyway how long before we start getting pictures?! I almost can't handle it!
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Hey purplevit, you are right on top of this stuff. I love it. thank you. I love this news. Even though I am not a fan of Mad Max Fury Road(mainly because I love the original three so much) the costumes and look of everyone is terrific. I think that's a great fit and really gets me excited for the look of this movie now.
Thanks. Yeah, recently we gwt some great Gambit movie news. It was a great week for sure:)
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Very good news indeed.
I actually hope they go with a totally non-superhero costume and more of a like, underground New Orleans crime getup, y'know?
Anyway how long before we start getting pictures?! I almost can't handle it!
Hmm, I don't agree here. I want Guilds to have unique costumes that will show who are thiefes and who are assassins among them. So Gambit in costume won't be ridiculous there.
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I agree that I would like Gambit's "operating" outfit to be some sort of Thieves guild armor/gear for when they're on the job. That way his look can easily translate over to an X-Force movie or whatever and still make sense as his "combat" gear with other heroes in superhero suits.
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'Life is a world of opportunity'
Sounds more like a leaning toward a first movie rather than an original origin
I like whoever said 'bend the mind'
not too much lol
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I'm not saying I don't want it guild themed but I am saying don't want a crazy superhero outfit. He's a thief after all.
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That's why Mann's design is perfect.
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Idk if this was ever confirmed before, but Gambit will be filming in New Orleans, officially.
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Wow, that’s a lot of news all of a sudden. Basically means I’ll be hogging this topic. ;D
I’m not sure what to think about Daniel Craig as Sinister, I thought he was horrible as James Bond. Has this been officially confirmed yet?
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Nothing official with Craig yet. He'd bring some extra star power to the movie if cast, and that would be a huge plus.
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Wow, that’s a lot of news all of a sudden. Basically means I’ll be hogging this topic. ;D
I’m not sure what to think about Daniel Craig as Sinister, I thought he was horrible as James Bond. Has this been officially confirmed yet?
I think his angler face would be perfect for a cerebral villain with upper-class tastes and a lack of a moral compass.
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Nothing official with Craig yet. He'd bring some extra star power to the movie if cast, and that would be a huge plus.
That's one of the reasons I'd like him to be cast as well. Plus, the dude's got some range - I'd love to see him play Sinister.
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That's one of the reasons I'd like him to be cast as well. Plus, the dude's got some range - I'd love to see him play Sinister.
Agreed. Plus it'd mean Craig as Sinister for a wide array of X-Men films. Not just the Gambit ones. Imagine a movie with Craig as Sinister pulling the strings, Schreiber back as Sabretooth, and Tatum's Gambit?
Ugh.. more giddiness.
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Agreed. Plus it'd mean Craig as Sinister for a wide array of X-Men films. Not just the Gambit ones. Imagine a movie with Craig as Sinister pulling the strings, Schreiber back as Sabretooth, and Tatum's Gambit?
Ugh. . more giddiness.
Oh god that sounds amazing. The X-Movies in general could use another recurring villain or 2 like that since Mystique and Magneto are both basically good guys now. Maybe not as prominent as those two were in the original X-Movies, but Sinister pullings strings behind the scenes, like you said, would be great
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Nothing official about Craig. In fact someone tweeted about how that rumor was untrue. Don't know who it was or if what they tweet is valid but some article quoted it. We will see though. I agree another big name would be great for this movie. No better character for that than Sinister. And easily a role that can transition to other movies.
There's been some speculation that Candra being the baddie in this Gambit movie is a set up to use the Externals in the X-Force move. That would be pretty cool. They could also throw Sinister in there and they could both segue into the Externals for X-Force.
Actually Verbinski hasn't been officially confirmed yet either but that seems to hold more water right now than Craig. FOX never officially confirmed Doug Liman either but we do know he was officially on board at some point.
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http://thathashtagshow.com/2017/10/exclusive-gambit-movie-character-breakdowns-for-thieves-guild-assassin-guild-and-other-possible-x-men-characters/
Gambit's new casting call. Some with sequels planned
Excited that we might see Pig too!
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Will paste link again. Previous post went crazy:)
http://thathashtagshow.com/2017/10/exclusive-gambit-movie-character-breakdowns-for-thieves-guild-assassin-guild-and-other-possible-x-men-characters/
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http://screenrant.com/gambit-movie-characters-x-men/ (http://screenrant.com/gambit-movie-characters-x-men/)
Here's one. The second link you posted seemed like it went away.
Super excited if this casting list is accurate. Hey purplevit who did you think was pig in that casting list?
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Boris :)
It was idea from broken link.
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I see. Could be. I think I know who Lewis is but I have to admit the female roles are making me go back and forth on who I think it is.
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Yeah, he ia definetely our big bad for movie.
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Finally feels like the movie is actually happening. I'm ready for the hype!
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This is exactly how I felt when the Deadpool movie started rolling. It's real, people!
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I fixed the links, no clue why ... but its all good now.
Its nice having news about the movie after such a long drought of nothing or negative stuff. yay!! I'm also ready for the hype.
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I never stopped my hype train but now it is just awespme to see all these news :D
A little bit even scary that I will find too many spoilers)
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Yeah, I'm so excited. With X-Men Dark Phoenix finished with principal photography, their main creative focus shifts to Gambit. It should be an interesting couple of months. Maybe the closer we get with more and more info coming out we will finally start to see more optimism and not so much negativity all over the place.
On imdb I used to get out my frustrations on posters who would say stupid things like "Gambit's a minor character" or "Nobody wants this film" because there are a lot of dumb comments like that. Imdb was a good place to set people straight but now there is really no place for that anymore. I'll just have to read dumb comments and deal with it now. But oh well, on with the movie news! This should be a fun ride for us.
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I think once the big roles start to get filled things will really start moving. I think they'll wait to see who's playing before they start putting together sketches and concepts. I believe the big fish will be whoever get's the Sinister role, and then Bella seeing as she'll most likely be the love interest here. I'm really interested in seeing what kind of style they'll be using in terms of costume and set design.
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‘Gambit’ Hires Coen Brothers Production Designer Jess Gonchor
http://omegaunderground.com/2017/11/01/gambit-hires-coen-brothers-production-designer-jess-gonchor/#0TX5VAUD59kL81A6.99http://omegaunderground.com/2017/11/01/gambit-hires-coen-brothers-production-designer-jess-gonchor/ (http://omegaunderground.com/2017/11/01/gambit-hires-coen-brothers-production-designer-jess-gonchor/#0TX5VAUD59kL81A6.99http://omegaunderground.com/2017/11/01/gambit-hires-coen-brothers-production-designer-jess-gonchor/)
Omega Underground has learned that the studio has hired Oscar-nominated production designer Jess Gonchor, best known for his work with the Coen Brothers.
His credits include True Grit, No Country For Old Men, Inside Llewyn Davis, Burn After Reading, Live By Night, A Serious Man, and Moneyball. Jess has previously worked with both Gore Verbinski and Channing Tatum on films such as The Lone Ranger, Foxcatcher and Hail, Caesar!
Gambit is expected to begin filming sometime between January and February with some of the production filming in New Orleans. Fox has slated it’s release date for February 14th, 2019.
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Nice! Pretty big Coen Bros fan so this is good news as far as I'm concerned
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Another great hiring for this project in my opinion. The article makes mention of filming beginning January or February. Definitely seems like they are going to utilize Mardis Gras for the movie. Which just seems like a great idea for a sequence in the movie.
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Every movie set in New Orleans is required by law to have at least one Madi gras scene. ;) of course, Jan and feb are probably the only months they really can film in New Orleans, because after march it's too hot and the cameras will melt. ;D
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;D yeah. But in my mind I can picture a really excellent action/heist sequence using the Mardis Gras as a guise in a Gambit movie. Sounds really entertaining and fun and could be a real stand-out part in the movie.
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Seems to me that could be a good introduction.
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I like that this is getting done.
mind-bending with voodoo/new orleans/go from there
I think most of us don't want a big budget film to start it off
one day though, one day
#f***Marvel
sorry my bad, I don't endorse that hashtag
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So Disney might buy Fox... I think if this happens before Gambit goes into production, we don't get a Gambit movie, but a X-Men movie with Gambit in it to introduce the X-Men to movie goers... I want my Gambit movie darn it. Don't sell, Fox.
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New Thor was terrible movie. Everything was like from Lego and in bright colors. Just for kids.
I don`t wont such trash X-Men.
Apocalypse was lame but it wasn`t a lego movie at least.
I hope FOX don`t sell.
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This is crazy news. Even if it does go through the transition might not take place for a couple years. And I don't see how Marvel/Disney would not want Channing Tatum's Gambit a part of their universe. I believe this movie will happen regardless. We will see.
Personally, I like the idea of Marvel Studios having a hand in the X-Men movies. The X-movies have been getting screwed up for far too long and I feel Marvel Studios will handle them with love and care.
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This is crazy news. Even if it does go through the transition might not take place for a couple years. And I don't see how Marvel/Disney would not want Channing Tatum's Gambit a part of their universe. I believe this movie will happen regardless. We will see.
Personally, I like the idea of Marvel Studios having a hand in the X-Men movies. The X-movies have been getting screwed up for far too long and I feel Marvel Studios will handle them with love and care.
Oh I don't think Tatum is going anywhere. If it happens I think they'll retain his contract but roll him into the X-Men. I don't think the first thing Marvel would do while reintroducing the brand is put out a Gambit solo where the concept of Mutants in the MCU doesn't exist... Unless they play into the whole multiverse angle and allow the X-Men universe to remain and then start doing crossovers or at least cameos via Doctor Strange. But I highly doubt we'd get any more hard R movies like Deadpool and Logan.
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I'm kind of torn which way I'd like this to play out. On one hand, the X-Men joining into the MCU would be fan-freakingtastic. I think I'm in the minority on this board, but this deal could mean we lose Tatum, which I'd love. I'm just not a fan of his acting. Although I am fully on board with his movie as he has shown dedication to the role.
On the other hand, Fox has stepped their X-game up lately. Logan and Deadpool were incredible, The Gifted is great, the story/plot of Apocalypse was awful, but the casting choices, outfits/colors were a step in the right direction. Losing a Gambit movie would suck though.
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Wow, you really are conflicted. :D
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New Thor was terrible movie. Everything was like from Lego and in bright colors. Just for kids.
I don`t wont such trash X-Men.
It made loads of money, which mean the Marvel comic publishing division will survive for the foreseeable future.
Disney buying Fox is amazing news for the X-franchise, but I'm a bit wary of having fewer, bigger production companies. That's not good for anyone but Disney.
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FOX started to lose shares after rumour. It seems possible deal is cacelled and I am really glad.
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Talks stalled with Fox and Disney.
Two articles at the Washington Post. I'd link but the WP won't let me. However, you can google it.
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I'm kinda torn about all this as well. On one hand, I'm glad it seems the talks have stalled bc I'm okay with Fox doing it's own thing. On the other, I can't help but feel that if Disney had acquired the rights to the X-Men, we'd see a resurgence in video games, action figures, cartoons, etc.
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Some boss logic art;
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Those are pretty great. I really like the eye effect in the first one. And how the pink/purple is there in both, but not obnoxiously so.
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Some boss logic art;
Love all in pic.
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Love all in pic.
It's too bad "All In" is being used by Justice League bc it works really well for Gambit.
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It's too bad "All In" is being used by Justice League bc it works really well for Gambit.
In a year and half noone will remeber it.
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In a year and half noone will remeber it.
True, at least for the GA. I could see some DC fans going crazy over another superhero using that tag line though haha
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True, at least for the GA. I could see some DC fans going crazy over another superhero using that tag line though haha
Haters will hate and always find ridiculous reasons to hate no matter what :)
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Channing Tatum Teases ‘Gambit’: 'Wait Till You See What We’re Going To Do'
http://www.huffingtonpost.in/entry/channing-tatum-gambit-war-dog-doc_us_5a032b9ce4b06ff32c950ba1
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Thanks purp. Every time Tatum talks about this movie I just get more and more excited. I really can't wait.
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Haters will hate and always find ridiculous reasons to hate no matter what :)
So true
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Thanks purp. Every time Tatum talks about this movie I just get more and more excited. I really can't wait.
Same here. His enthusiasm for the film/character is contagious
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Yeah, Tatum really loves Gambit.
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"Unlike other franchise leads, Tatum says he’s more focused on presenting an interesting story, rather than making millions at the box office. "
That worries me a little, If a marvel superhero film does not do really really well, its not considered sucessful, and it wont get a sequel. I think they both Box office and Story should be considered.
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That worries me a little, If a marvel superhero film does not do really really well, its not considered sucessful, and it wont get a sequel. I think they both Box office and Story should be considered.
You're being too paranoid. He's merely making the point that they first and foremost set out to make a good movie and let everything fall into place from there. He's not implying they don't care if the movie flops or isn't financially successful.
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You're being too paranoid. .
Probably ;) .
This quote from him I love. .
"I have a personal, historical relationship with him at a time in my life when I needed fantasy, and that’s who he is to me. ”
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Probably ;) .
This quote from him I love. .
"I have a personal, historical relationship with him at a time in my life when I needed fantasy, and that’s who he is to me. ”
This is a great quote, and I'm glad that Gambit has resonance with Tatum. It explains his passion for the character and that is something I really like about Channing Tatum. :)
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It is a great quote from him. That's exactly the type of thing you want to hear from the man bringing the character to life and shows how deep his fanhood runs.
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Absolutely, would much rather have an actor with a personal and sentimental history with Gambit than one who was just simply doing it for the money.
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Absolutely, would much rather have an actor with a personal and sentimental history with Gambit than one who was just simply doing it for the money.
It is a great quote from him. That's exactly the type of thing you want to hear from the man bringing the character to life and shows how deep his fanhood runs.
We (Gambit fans) as a group already know there will be detractors, but you really can't dismiss the enthusiasm. Tatum lobbied, has put his "investment" in and I think that is great.
I will say, Channing Tatum was never my "ideal" for Gambit, but I'm in the - "you like the character and want to do right by him. Bring it!" group.
He's completely won me over from the get-go with his positive attitude and Tatum hasn't let up, he's been patient and working it through. Gotta love that.
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I am 100% "all in" with Channing Tatum on this movie and have been for a long time. And the longer it goes on and the more I hear the more confident I get.
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Though initially I was sceptical about Channing Tatum playing Gambit, over time I’ve grown to love his enthusiasm about it and the effort he’s putting in to make this happen. I’m hopeful, and if there’s a good script with the right actors playing the right roles, this could make for a interesting and ‘box office material’ film.
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Same here. I still think there could be better actor, but not one who can beat his enthusiasm.
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IF this thing starts shooting in a couple months or so surprised there is so little in casting as of now.
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I am sure we will get casting news soon.
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I just wish they would hurry up already. I want to see photos! :D
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For what it’s worth...
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/11/14/gambit-production-designer-jess-gonchor/ (http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/11/14/gambit-production-designer-jess-gonchor/)
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Any actor suggestions for Mr Sinister? I think Craig is a long shot, since it looks he is doing another Bond film soon
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Any actor suggestions for Mr Sinister? I think Craig is a long shot, since it looks he is doing another Bond film soon
Speculating is so much fun ... ;D
For no real reason other than he plays a villain well, I think Benedict Cumberbatch. He just looks like he could be the part.
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Idris Elba is too good to be true, but that's my dream.
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For some reason I got the picture of Lee Pace in my head as Sinister. I remember him from Guardians of the Galaxy where he played a villain with looks slightly Sinister-like. And I’ve seen him in Halt and Catch Fire. He seems like a good choice for the role. He’s tall and can look imposing. I might be completely wrong, but somehow he looks the part.
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Bryan Cranston wants to play Sinister. Everyone loves him and he would bring some much needed positive buzz to this film. I wouldn't hate him.
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Bryan Cranston
Should I feel stupid for not having a clue who he is?
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For some reason I got the picture of Lee Pace in my head as Sinister. I remember him from Guardians of the Galaxy where he played a villain with looks slightly Sinister-like. And I’ve seen him in Halt and Catch Fire. He seems like a good choice for the role. He’s tall and can look imposing. I might be completely wrong, but somehow he looks the part.
He would be a solid choice. The guy's got some range. He'll always be Ned the Pie Maker to me though haha
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Cranston is too old.
Would like Luke Evans as Sinister.
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He would be a solid choice. The guy's got some range. He'll always be Ned the Pie Maker to me though haha
Ha! I loved Pushing Daisies. Forgot about it...
I think he’s proved himself well enough in various roles.
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I'm still holding out for Daniel Craig.
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http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0186505/?ref_=nv_sr_1 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0186505/?ref_=nv_sr_1)
Here you go Nevaratoiel. I'm sure you know him from something. He's a very popular actor.
Hey purp, going by the casting call, the character that appears to be Sinister is mentioned to be aged 40's-50. I think Cranston fits that. Cranston is not exactly who I envision exactly for the part but I could see him doing a good job. Personally I feel the role of Sinister show go to a bigger name type of acot. I think that just makes sense all around. Not that I personally need that.
I do really like the idea of Daniel Craig though. I can really see him doing a good job.
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Fox Changes ‘Gambit’s Working Title To ‘Forevermore’
http://omegaunderground.com/2017/11/15/update-fox-changes-gambits-working-title-forevermore/ (http://omegaunderground.com/2017/11/15/update-fox-changes-gambits-working-title-forevermore/)
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I doubt Craig as Sinister would happen. Only if he will be a big bad for X-Force and Deadpool 3.
As for Cranston, he is a great actor but not a Siniter for me.
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Craig probably wouldn't do it unless he could be in multiple movies view, but I would be totally ok with that. They have milk magneto's man pain story beyond dry and are in desperate need of new blood. I think Cranston could be great and sunny is character that can be 'old.'
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Fox Changes ‘Gambit’s Working Title To ‘Forevermore’
http://omegaunderground.com/2017/11/15/update-fox-changes-gambits-working-title-forevermore/ (http://omegaunderground.com/2017/11/15/update-fox-changes-gambits-working-title-forevermore/)
Well that sounds kinda...whimsical or romantic
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Well that sounds kinda...whimsical or romantic
Well, february 14 is release date:)
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Strong rumors sinister is the villain in deadpool 2. . . so maybe he's alteady cast
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Well that sounds kinda...whimsical or romantic
And slightly creepy since it's from The Raven...
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And slightly creepy since it's from The Raven...
It's OK because many things related to The Raven and Poe are fitting for Gambit.
"All along I was searching for my Lenore"
"I am a natural entertainer, aren't we all
Holding pieces of dying ember"
"I'm a shape shifter
At Poe's masquerade
Hiding both face and mind
All free for you to draw
I'm a shape shifter
Chained down to my core
Please don't take off my mask
My place to hide"
;D :smitten:
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Strong rumors sinister is the villain in deadpool 2. . . so maybe he's alteady cast
Nah, that'd be the best kept secret in the world unless the big bad in the movie is Sinister and it's revealed at the very end in sort of psyche-out. Deadpool 2 is basically finished with principal shooting if the teaser didnt say enough. I believe they are in post production at the moment.
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I doubt that they were casting some big actors for villain for Deadpool 2?
Maybe Sinister will be a villain for X-Force and Gambit will join it after solo?
Where is Cc? He is our Deadpool expert.
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I believe Gambit will be a part of X-Force so I would not be surprised if Sinister began in Gambit movie and moved on to X-Force.
They announced James Franco will play Multiple Man in a solo movie. Does everyone remember when the supposed Gambit script leaked and in the team Gambit assembles is Multiple Man? Wonder if that means James Franco's Multiple Man will be in the Gambit movie.
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Should I feel stupid for not having a clue who he is?
Lol, I don't follow actors much either. He was the lead in Breaking Bad (and the dad on Malcolm in the Middle, so he has range.) Someon asked him at a con somewhere what character he'd like to be in a comic book movie and he said Mr. Sinister. So that's why his name keeps popping up.
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I believe Gambit will be a part of X-Force so I would not be surprised if Sinister began in Gambit movie and moved on to X-Force.
They announced James Franco will play Multiple Man in a solo movie. Does everyone remember when the supposed Gambit script leaked and in the team Gambit assembles is Multiple Man? Wonder if that means James Franco's Multiple Man will be in the Gambit movie.
Yeah, I think he will appear. That is ehy there were no Madrox in casting call for Gambit movie.
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I believe Gambit will be a part of X-Force so I would not be surprised if Sinister began in Gambit movie and moved on to X-Force.
They announced James Franco will play Multiple Man in a solo movie. Does everyone remember when the supposed Gambit script leaked and in the team Gambit assembles is Multiple Man? Wonder if that means James Franco's Multiple Man will be in the Gambit movie.
CT was announced as Gambit in 2014, it has yet to begin filming. so, who knows how long it will take for the Franco movie to develop.
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CT was announced as Gambit in 2014, it has yet to begin filming. so, who knows how long it will take for the Franco movie to develop.
Yeah sure but I'm really just commenting and speculating on James Franco's possible inclusion in the Gambit movie. I think it's very interesting. Don't really care about the Multiple Man solo at the moment.
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... Don't really care about the Multiple Man solo at the moment.
Ditto.
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Took.a quick look at imdb, so the same writer who wrote magic mike and magic mike xxl , and the guy who did the remake of robocop is writing Gambit. . ???
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I didn't check IMDB - but if that is the case, this guy is probably close to Channing Tatum. While Tatum wasn't in Robocop, he certainly was the main man in Magic Mike. Interesting ... but I don't hold a ton of stock in IMDB. ;)
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Chis Claremont wrote the original treatment. Josh Zetumer who wrote the Robocop remake, wrote the first screenplay. Which was rumored to be good. Then Reid Carolin, Tatum's producing and writing partner(who wrote and produced the Magic Mike movies among others) did rewrites on the movie. This is what I know as far as the writing for this movie goes.
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lizzy Caplan female lead
http://www.tracking-board.com/lizzy-caplan-to-play-female-lead-in-gambit-opposite-channing-tatums-superhero/ (http://www.tracking-board.com/lizzy-caplan-to-play-female-lead-in-gambit-opposite-channing-tatums-superhero/)
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Hmm, interesting. I like Caplan in what I've seen her in, though I haven't seen her in a lot.
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lizzy Caplan female lead
http://www.tracking-board.com/lizzy-caplan-to-play-female-lead-in-gambit-opposite-channing-tatums-superhero/ (http://www.tracking-board.com/lizzy-caplan-to-play-female-lead-in-gambit-opposite-channing-tatums-superhero/)
Cool! She is sexy and charismatic.
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Love the casting... no matter what the role is. She's great. Glad she'll be in the X-Men universe.
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I've had a low-key "thing" for her, for a while now. Female lead can only mean what? Bella Donna or... Ms Sinister? That'd be a twist. We've been asking Mister this whole time, what if it's Miss? Women can honestly be much scarier than men.
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I've had a low-key "thing" for her, for a while now. Female lead can only mean what? Bella Donna or... Ms Sinister? That'd be a twist. We've been asking Mister this whole time, what if it's Miss? Women can honestly be much scarier than men.
;D I agree!
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That...never even occurred to me but I am sold
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Miss Sinister would be very interesting. And I'd immediately fall in love and do whatever she wanted me to do to notice me.
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I have no idea why so many on Twitter think/hope shes playing Rogue. Its an ORIGIN story lol
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Is that confirmed? (origin story)
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Is that confirmed? (origin story)
Good question, I guess I just assumed it was based on the previous plot details. Bella Donna etc.
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Question, whats with the sarcasm of this article from Bleeding cool? As I recall Deadpool was in pre production for a decade, but with Gambit its "Development hell"
"Supposed casting in Supposed Gambit film",
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/11/20/lizzy-caplan-role-channing-tatum-gambit/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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Miss Sinister would be very interesting. And I'd immediately fall in love and do whatever she wanted me to do to notice me.
That was funny... And very sad. Probably do the same.
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I have no idea why so many on Twitter think/hope shes playing Rogue. Its an ORIGIN story lol
I think it's more of a present day kind of thing with flashbacks to explain the origin. No way Tatum can pull off anytime under 25. He needs to get the ball rolling though. He's not in the greatest of shape. Saw him host the tonight show and he had a gut for sure.
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I think it's more of a present day kind of thing with flashbacks to explain the origin. No way Tatum can pull off anytime under 25. He needs to get the ball rolling though. He's not in the greatest of shape. Saw him host the tonight show and he had a gut for sure.
I saw him as well on that, he did mention before he only gets in shape for movies that require it otherwise he does not work out, because I bet money they will have him take his shirt off in the film lol It's Interesting, I always tought CT was popular -or are comic book fans always this really critical about casting?
-You think they would recast Rogue? She would fit Rogue better IMO than Bella Donna.
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Question, whats with the sarcasm of this article from Bleeding cool? As I recall Deadpool was in pre production for a decade, but with Gambit its "Development hell"
"Supposed casting in Supposed Gambit film",
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/11/20/lizzy-caplan-role-channing-tatum-gambit/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/11/20/lizzy-caplan-role-channing-tatum-gambit/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
Deadpool was called the same.. don't worry about Bleeding Cool too much. They post multiple reviews of the same issues by different reviewers with vastly different opinions. It's weird there.
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I doubt she would be in this movie, but Caplan could pull off a great Rogue.
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IGN does one of their infuriating tiny videos about it;
https://youtu.be/n6IOLE2hPL0
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Deadpool was called the same.. don't worry about Bleeding Cool too much. They post multiple reviews of the same issues by different reviewers with vastly different opinions. It's weird there.
Indeed, as a newer Gambit fan just getting used to the negative stuff about him :( .Kinda reassuring to know deadpool took some of the same abuse.
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Don`t care about Bleedingcool or Collider thoughts. Everything will change if mobvie will be good. I remember how Collider were saying on repeat that movie is dead and noone wants it. And then next week we have director and release date and Collider already was always excited for Gambit, LOL ;D
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Indeed, as a newer Gambit fan just getting used to the negative stuff about him :( .Kinda reassuring to know deadpool took some of the same abuse.
Oh, you know nothing about the abuse Gambit has gone through over the years! ;D
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Indeed, as a newer Gambit fan just getting used to the negative stuff about him :( .Kinda reassuring to know deadpool took some of the same abuse.
Deadpool took it on the chin for a real long time. Add on top of that all the hate he got from comics readers for being this mainstream hit with all non-comics readers.
If Gambit is as good as I think it'll be, it's worth it
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Did the two previous directors ever explain why they left the film?
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Did the two previous directors ever explain why they left the film?
Liman's reasoning:“I never formed a connection. Many of these movies, I don’t have the connection on day one, but I find the connection,” Liman said. “I just never find it. I don’t always find a connection. I want to make a movie that, if anybody else made it, it would be different.”
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/05/16/gambit-movie-director-doug-liman-comments-on-leaving/ (http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/05/16/gambit-movie-director-doug-liman-comments-on-leaving/)
Wyatt I think had scheduling issues
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I never formed a connection. Many of these movies, I don’t have the connection on day one, but I find the connection,” Liman said. “I just never find it. I don’t always find a connection. I want to make a movie that, if anybody else made it, it would be different.”
hmm, interesting
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Wedding Scene Expected For ‘Gambit’ – Will James Franco Appear?
http://omegaunderground.com/2017/11/21/wedding-scene-expected-gambit-will-james-franco-appear/amp/
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That line of dialogue from Bella Donna makes me glad they did rewrites
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Be cool if they filmed in Paris. Hope the museum heist is still in the script.
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That line of dialogue from Bella Donna makes me glad they did rewrites
Same here. That one tape that surfaced of Ali Rodney reading for the part was...less that great
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That line of dialogue from Bella Donna makes me glad they did rewrites
Yes, I thought the dialogue was terrible
The writers are really the only stress point I have about this film. Not the greatest pedigree.(MMXXL, Robocop)
Hope we get word on a director of photography.
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This is all very fascinating. Lizzy Caplan doesn't exactly fit the bill for Belladonna bit's still possible. But if it's not her I wonder who it could be. Rogue would be an interesting twist. Lizzy has been in 4 films with James Franco so it seems like an obvious connection and just makes me think more that he will pop up in this movie.
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. Lizzy has been in 4 films with James Franco.
Were they any good?
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This is all very fascinating. Lizzy Caplan doesn't exactly fit the bill for Belladonna bit's still possible. But if it's not her I wonder who it could be. Rogue would be an interesting twist. Lizzy has been in 4 films with James Franco so it seems like an obvious connection and just makes me think more that he will pop up in this movie.
I actually think she is Rogue. And maybe it leans heavily on Gambit’s first solo mini that opens up with Gambit and Rogue in the danger room?
I know it’s woshful thinking. But I believe in C-Tates. Haha
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Were they any good?
The Interview was hysterical. And she was very very good looking.
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The Interview was hysterical. And she was very very good looking.
Speaking of frequent co stars would not be surprised to see Jonah Hill pop up in Gambit and/or MM.
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http://omegaunderground.com/2017/11/22/fox-eyeing-february-july-production-shoot-gambit/
Fox Eyeing February-July Production Shoot For ‘Gambit’
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A lot of interesting stuff coming out now. And there's only more to come. ;) Very curious about Lizzy Caplan's role now.
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This is a fun period... when news starts trickling in and things get revved up.
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Hopefully Sinister news is next.
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‘Gambit’ Adds ‘Logan’ and ‘Stranger Things’ Concept Artist
http://omegaunderground.com/2017/11/23/gambit-adds-logan-stranger-things-concept-artist/
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Well the movie is sure going for a stylized approach. Kinda surprised they aren't passed this point. Typically they wait until they have an idea of what the characters are going to look like (casting). Unless if it's heavily CGI, that is, which it is not from what I can tell. By "heavy" I mean movies that are like 75% animated where it doesn't matter who you cast because they are basically doing voice acting or motion capture.
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CT made a surprise apperance on Ellen yesterday to promote a animated film of his., he actually looks a bit slimmer than on Kimmel. Maybe shedding weight for the movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_9TGfv0OKg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_9TGfv0OKg)
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Cinematographer Bojan Bazelli Reunites With Gore Verbinski On ‘Gambit’
http://omegaunderground.com/2017/11/28/cinematographer-bojan-bazelli-reunites-gore-verbinski-gambit/
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Just read Franco is making a "Hard R rated" film and will bring the superhero movies into a "new genre"
CT said he was unsure about rating because he still wanted kids to be able to see it, bet he goes PG 13
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Interesting choice. Not sure I've seen any movies he's worked on that the cinematography was especially good. Maybe The Ring?
bet he goes PG 13
I'm willing to bet you're right. Gambit's never really struck me as a hard R character anyways.
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Though I still wouldn't be surprised if this wound up being R anyway.
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Though I still wouldn't be surprised if this wound up being R anyway.
I mean, with how popular Deadpool and Logan were I could see it (especially if Deadpool 2 is successful, which I'm betting it will be). On the other hand, though, I think they're going to want Gambit to be as accessible as possible since he's not exactly as popular as Wolverine or Deadpool in general. Idk. Fox is in an interesting place right now, especially since the talks of them being bought by Disney has been picking up steam again
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Best bet is to get Gambit in production before ownership switches hands. As long as contracts are signed and work is begun, the movie will be completed. But if this Disney purchase goes through before they start shooting, production may be put on hiatus or shelved indefinitely.
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It'll be interesting to see what happens over the next couple months. I mean, if talks for this deal is going as fast as everyone is saying, I feel like the wait for Feb when Gambit starts shooting is an eternity.
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I think everything will be ok.
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Been awhile since I have seen Logan, but I assume the R was for gore/violence/swearing. Some will disagree, But I dont see Remy as a big swearing type.
I think you can get away with quite a bit under PG-13 though.
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CONFIRMED: ‘Gambit’ Production Start In New Orleans Is Bumped To March
http://omegaunderground.com/2017/12/02/confirmed-gambit-production-start-new-orleans-bumped-march/
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It's nice to have a confirmed start date. It's funny too because recently I was thinking that I wondered if they would begin in March instead to give themselves an extra month for pre-production. I really can't wait for this to start filming and Comic-Con 2018 should be exciting for us.
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Wonder what is taking so long on the casting front? Captain Marvel which was announced several months back has already cast all its main parts(Jude law, Ben Mendelsohn, Bree Larson).
JL and Ben I think both would have made great Mr Sinsters :(
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It's really not taking that long considering they only began the casting process fairly recently. Logan had a similar casting process where not much was known even well in to filming.
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Hmmmm. https://www.thewrap.com/disney-fox-close-to-a-deal-report/
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Hmmmm. https://www.thewrap.com/disney-fox-close-to-a-deal-report/ (https://www.thewrap.com/disney-fox-close-to-a-deal-report/)
Game changer for the Xmen and Fantastic 4 and any other "rights" currently in possession of Fox. Fox Studios is really the biggest thing in this merger.
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This is crazy. I do hope they keep 20th century FOX as a separate branch so they can continue making un-disney like movies. Disney will inherit a lot of great R rated franchises. Don't want such a major studio to vanish who gives us much different content than Disney does.
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I do hope they keep 20th century FOX as a separate branch so they can continue making un-disney like movies.
It will be interesting to see what happens, but I have a feeling Feige would want to put the X-Men in the MCU, especially since Inhumans hasn't exactly been successful
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(sigh) Hoping the merger wont kill Gambit.
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FOX extends it's partnership with IMAX for 5 more films and "Gambit" is one of them. So I'm thinking Gambit is safe.
http://variety.com/2017/film/news/fox-imax-partnership-x-men-movies-1202632825/ (http://variety.com/2017/film/news/fox-imax-partnership-x-men-movies-1202632825/)
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Great news!
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FOX extends it's partnership with IMAX for 5 more films and "Gambit" is one of them. So I'm thinking Gambit is safe.
http://variety.com/2017/film/news/fox-imax-partnership-x-men-movies-1202632825/ (http://variety.com/2017/film/news/fox-imax-partnership-x-men-movies-1202632825/)
Great!!!!
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New Bond is getting ready to film, so obviously Craig won't be playing sinster
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Watched Logan Lucky today. It was a good movie and Tatum was good in it.
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Disney bought FOX.
@_ChristopherM from Omega Underground told:
As far as we know stuff like Gambit, X-Force, and Deadpool 3 are still happening. Things like X-23 and Multiple Man are big question marks at the moment.
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I will still feel better when this actually STARTS filming. Wish we'd get more news😲
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From Disney's site:
https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/walt-disney-company-acquire-twenty-first-century-fox-inc-spinoff-certain-businesses-52-4-billion-stock/ (https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/walt-disney-company-acquire-twenty-first-century-fox-inc-spinoff-certain-businesses-52-4-billion-stock/)
Transaction to include 21st Century Fox’s film and television studios, cable entertainment networks and international TV businesses
Popular entertainment properties including X-Men, Avatar, The Simpsons, FX Networks and National Geographic to join Disney’s portfolio
Expands Disney’s direct-to-consumer offerings with addition of 21st Century Fox’s entertainment content, capabilities in the Americas, Europe and Asia; Hulu stake becomes a controlling interest
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The agreement also provides Disney with the opportunity to reunite the X-Men, Fantastic Four and Deadpool with the Marvel family under one roof and create richer, more complex worlds of inter-related characters and stories that audiences have shown they love.
The key is now ownership of the Xmen is back at Marvel, their stuff may get released under the Fox banner but now Marvel will have control, which they have wanted for some time now.
CBR's articles on it -
https://www.cbr.com/disney-fox-marvel-deal-questions/ (https://www.cbr.com/disney-fox-marvel-deal-questions/)
https://www.cbr.com/disney-fox-x-men-movies-dont-matter/ (https://www.cbr.com/disney-fox-x-men-movies-dont-matter/)
This was the original article from CBR:
https://www.cbr.com/disney-fox-x-men-fantastic-four-deal/ (https://www.cbr.com/disney-fox-x-men-fantastic-four-deal/)
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I will still feel better when this actually STARTS filming. Wish we'd get more news😲
Same here. Although, I will admit I'm intrigued to see if/how they would portray Gambit in the MCU with the rest of the X-team
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This is crazy wild stuff. I am super excited the X-Men are with Marvel now. Might finally get add some great epic x-movies now. I am confident Gambit is still a go and even more excited now that the movie will have Marvel/Disney backing to push it. Gambit movie will definitely be advertised well now.
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It makes me a little nervous that Gambit could at best be delayed at worst cancelled. Saying that, I would love it if he was part of the MCU but hopefully Disney/Marvel make him a central focus.
On the other hand, I wonder if Marvel comics will start taking the X-Men seriously again. Maybe with a Gambit film they'll start sincerely trying to push him in comics.
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On the other hand, I wonder if Marvel comics will start taking the X-Men seriously again. Maybe with a Gambit film they'll start sincerely trying to push him in comics.
This is for sure. I can totally see an ongoing solo series to coincide with the movie. While I'll remain a bit nervous until something official is confirmed(which might not be too long from now) I am pretty confident this movie is safe.
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This is for sure. I can totally see an ongoing solo series to coincide with the movie. While I'll remain a bit nervous until something official is confirmed(which might not be too long from now) I am pretty confident this movie is safe.
Recently Cullen Bunn told that he is working on smth with Bella Donna.
She may appear as villain in Blue or maybe he is working on Gambit solo. He told once that pithced Gambit solo a few times but Marvel always refused. Maybe this time they gave green light to it.
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@Neko link is turning up bunk for me right now
Gambit should definitely still be a safe go. Remember this deal won't actually go through for 12-18 months and even then it's possible it could be blocked. From what I've been reading though is that DC doesn't have as big a problem with this as with Time and Comcast merger
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@Neko link is turning up bunk for me right now
Thanks M! I'll fix it - not sure where the original article went but I found two others. See my previous post.
Edit: found the original one too.
https://www.cbr.com/disney-fox-x-men-fantastic-four-deal/
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Hopefully Channing will make some kind of statement or comment about the progress of the gambit movie, he has not mentioned it since lucky logan press months back, before GV even came on.
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Wonder is the Multiple man one is going ahead?
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I wouldn't be shocked if everything after Gambit was just scrapped. Except for the X-Force movie idea with Marvel making that their first main X-title that they are in control of.
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Gambit will happen. I'm certain.
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/x-men-fantastic-four-flux-fox-disney-deal-1067672
'X-Men,' 'Fantastic Four' in Flux After Fox-Disney Deal
The long-gestating Gambit movie starring Channing Tatum is finally due to begin shooting in late February 2018 for a February 2019 release. What will be the box-office threshold for Disney to consider that movie a hit, thus warranting a sequel? The answers will lie in a re-evaluation of the projects down the line to see how and if it fits into a broader Marvel strategy, according to sources.
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And M is right. Before this deal officially goes through it has to go through a regulatory review first to make sure it doesn't violate any antitrust laws. This will last anywhere from 12-18 months. Disney has said they expect it to take 18 months. So it's not like Disney can just start cancelling whatever they want right away. The Gambit movie could very well have come out already and the review will still not be done.
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The movie has two big names attached to it...Tatum and Gore Verbinski, who did the first three Pirates of the Caribbean movies (downside, he also did The Lone Ranger). I'd be shocked if Disney scrapped it, considering it is slated to start filming in early 2018 (I think pushed to March now, but did they really want to be in New Orleans in February around Mardi Gras anyway? Just getting rooms for everyone would have been a nightmare).
On the plus side, this should free up the 'freeze" on Gambit merchandise. Funko, for example, could not do certain X-characters, as Disney put a freeze on them. I remember reading Gambit and Nightcrawler were two of them
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I think what changes is expectations. This is a Marvel property now and making 300m may not be acceptable anymore, on the plus side, nor will they want to put out a measly 100k or less. Disney makes investments, not gambles (funny!). Buy Hollywood folk are indeed bringing up Gambit and Multiple Man as in danger of being shelved simply because of not being in production. However the acquisition isn't an overnight thing. It could take months or even a couple years to go into effect due to lingering deals and contracts. I think worst case scenario, they push forward with reintroducing The X-Men and mutants into the MCU and hopefully keep Tatum on in the role. Bad news is, it'd push the date again and make Tatum even older to start which may not be what they want to get into if Disney wants a long running franchise out of it. Fox may not have wanted to reneg on the IMAX deal, but Disney is like the Honey Badger. Honey badger don't give a @&$#.
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X-Men will join the MCU but Disney will "look carefully" at Fox film slate
https://www.cbr.com/x-men-disney-fox-film-slate/?utm_source=CBR-FB-P&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=CBR-FB-P&view=list
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I think what changes is expectations. This is a Marvel property now and making 300m may not be acceptable anymore, on the plus side, nor will they want to put out a measly 100k or less. Disney makes investments, not gambles (funny!). Buy Hollywood folk are indeed bringing up Gambit and Multiple Man as in danger of being shelved simply because of not being in production. However the acquisition isn't an overnight thing. It could take months or even a couple years to go into effect due to lingering deals and contracts. I think worst case scenario, they push forward with reintroducing The X-Men and mutants into the MCU and hopefully keep Tatum on in the role. Bad news is, it'd push the date again and make Tatum even older to start which may not be what they want to get into if Disney wants a long running franchise out of it. Fox may not have wanted to reneg on the IMAX deal, but Disney is like the Honey Badger. Honey badger don't give a @&$#.
If Deadpool, and Old man Logan mean anything it's that Gambit will be a quality product.... Lotta time to think about it though
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Honey Badger is actually the new codename of Gabby Kinney :) lol
But I think based off the successes of DP and Logan, Gambit will be unique just like those 2 and do well.
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John Campea talks about it on his clog @13:00
https://youtu.be/g8q0zF2pclQ (https://youtu.be/g8q0zF2pclQ)
Funny how he and those others on collider keep talking about it even though they swore it wasn't going to happen.
edit: fixed the text. Are you folks using a phone to reply? I'm still trying to figure out why some posts have the smallest text possible. Thanks Don.
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Honey Badger is actually the new codename of Gabby Kinney :) lol
But I think based off the successes of DP and Logan, Gambit will be unique just like those 2 and do well.
Tatum told that movie is crazy. I am so excited to see what they prepared.
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John Campea talks about it on his clog @13:00
https://youtu.be/g8q0zF2pclQ (https://youtu.be/g8q0zF2pclQ)
Funny how he and those others on collider keep talking about it even though they swore it wasn't going to happen.
edit: fixed the text. Are you folks using a phone to reply? I'm still trying to figure out why some posts have the smallest text possible. Thanks Don.
That’s the kinda stuff that got me to stop watching Collider. That and an episode of Red Letter Media’s Nerd Crew.
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That’s the kinda stuff that got me to stop watching Collider. That and an episode of Red Letter Media’s Nerd Crew.
Haha! Me too.
Point here is this movie is getting made. The deal isn't official until the review is approved. Which will take a while.
The only thing in danger is what happens after this movie comes. Channing Tatum wants a franchise and to continue to play the character. If the movie doesn't do well and doesn't mesh with what they want to do they could just kill Tatum's Gambit and move on. The future of Tatum's take is what is in possible danger. Not his present.
Campea and others are comparing the Gambit movie situation to Multiple Man, X-23 etc.The Gambit movie production isn't comparible to those others. Gambit is ready to film in 3 months. Multiple Man and X-23 are just vague ideas at this point. X-Force is too but nobody is saying that's in trouble.
Just people speculating about stuff they don't know much about for clickbait purposes. Campea disappoints though because I feel like he should know more.
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“Basically Fox — 20th Century Fox Studios — has some interesting tentpole opportunities, we obviously are going to continue to support that,” he said. “What they’ve done obviously with Avatar, and what they did with Deadpool, X-Men, Fantastic Four, Planet of the Apes is another one. We’ll stay in that business. Not all of it will be branded anything other than what it’s branded today, as a for instance. How much we will create under that banner, we’re still uncertain. It’s going to take a while from a regulatory perspective. They’ll continue to develop in that period of time and at such time as we close this deal and have control, we’ll take stock and really look carefully at what their slate looks like going forward and how many movies it would make sense to make.”
That is what we need to hear! I would be very mad if Disney get canceled the movie before filming starting in 2 or 3 months.
https://www.cbr.com/x-men-disney-fox-film-slate/?utm_source=CBR-FB-P&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=CBR-FB-P&view=list
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Pretty much confirming what I said. 8)
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Time wil tell, I guess. A positive sign would be more casting news in the very near future.
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It's said the regularly process will take up to a year to complete. While the deal is sealed, nothing will be concrete until it passes government sanction and scrutiny. Gambit movie should be safe as long as they allow that which is in motion to stay in motion. Not just their movies but TV and Cable channels as well.
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Agreed. And 20th Century Fox is not going to stop doing business because of this deal. It will continue as it is expected to do. Whatever projects they're working on or have started should stay the same. Companies don't stop doing business because it was bought by another.
Later projects may get a review or change in status but by then, the merger will be much closer to done.
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Yup 100% right Neko. Fox is still in the business of making money. So long as they have these rights, they'll make movies that they believe will make them money. Gambit will. X-Force will. I would love to see Franco get his shot at Multiple Man before the rights shift back too.
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@_ChristopherM UPDATE: It looks like full-steam-ahead for GAMBIT. Now looking at a FEBRUARY production start. We previously confirmed a shoot in NEW ORLEANS in MARCH. Just in case you thought it was getting canceled.
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Gambit movie has hired Tom Struthers as the stunt coordinator and Academy Award-winner Joel Harlow as the makeup artist.
Tom has previously worked on Inception, The Dark Knight Rises, Black Panther, Infinity War, etc.
Joel has worked on Logan, Black Panther, Inception.
Katrissa 'Kat' Peterson also joins the crew as the visual effects coordinator. She has worked on Guardian of the Galaxy vol.2, Black Panther, Iron Man, Captain America: Winter Soldier.
It changes size of text again :(
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Hey purplevit, where did you get this info from?
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@_ChristopherM UPDATE: It looks like full-steam-ahead for GAMBIT. Now looking at a FEBRUARY production start. We previously confirmed a shoot in NEW ORLEANS in MARCH. Just in case you thought it was getting canceled.
. Reading the comments to this is depressing, geez, they either don't like gambit, gore, Channing...or all three 😯
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Hey purplevit, where did you get this info from?
From poster from other site. He is quit close to omega underground. I think he got it from them.
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Ok thanks purp. Great news. I checked hiss twitter and it confirms Gambit still shooting in New Orleans as well as other locations.
Paneo01, You seem quite worried and I understand. But this movie is getting made and that's awesome for us. You can't pay attention to posters on the internet who are tools. There has been nothing but false negativity reported on this movie so of coarse everyone wants to slag it off. Once the movie gets going and we get a few slick set pics and an interesting Sinister reveal and a great Gambit design for Channing, you will see how much all that stuff will change.
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Yeah, haters will hate no matter what.
They always finds new excuses when you fight them with facts.
Movie is happening and it is great :)
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Paneo01, You seem quite worried and I understand. But this movie is getting made and that's awesome for us. You can't pay attention to posters on the internet who are tools. There has been nothing but false negativity reported on this movie so of coarse everyone wants to slag it off. Once the movie gets going and we get a few slick set pics and an interesting Sinister reveal and a great Gambit design for Channing, you will see how much all that stuff will change.
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Thanks for the pep talk, I needed it. :)
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Yup 100% right Neko. Fox is still in the business of making money. So long as they have these rights, they'll make movies that they believe will make them money. Gambit will. X-Force will. I would love to see Franco get his shot at Multiple Man before the rights shift back too.
Well, no. X-Force and Franco need to accelerate and get into production. If they aren't committed by time Disney gets through, they'll be in trouble. Gambit has already hired people and signed contracts. XFO and MM don't even have scripts. The same with the planned New Mutant's trilogy. The first one is done, but if they don't start production on the 2nd within the year, its in trouble. Seeing as the first movie doesn't even come out until 2018, I doubt they are going to start the ball rolling on a sequel before they know it'll make money in the theaters and on the back-end (DL and disc sales). What annoys me about the future is the X-Men. They are finally getting into their more sci-fi phase and it looks like Dark Phoenix will be the last of it as I doubt Marvel is going to go cosmic during their first couple of outings or even come close to touching another Phoenix story. I expect them to do more grounded story lines. So I might get my Operation Zero Tolerance, X-tinction Agenda and X-Cutioners Song movies. The only space story under Disney I think we'll see is the Phalanx Covenant because it's so much unlike anything else that's out there.
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I was saying that both of those movies would make Fox money if they were able to be made.
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‘Gambit’ 10 Week NOLA Shoot Confirmed – Budget Reportedly $155M :D
http://omegaunderground.com/2017/12/18/gambit-10-week-nola-shoot-confirmed-budget-reportedly-155m/
Late last night, we reported that Gambit would spend 10 weeks shooting in New Orleans starting in March. Along with undisclosed other locations expected as well.
This is now confirmed by NOLA.com, who confirmed our report and added that Gambit’s budget is around $155 million.
Channing Tatum is playing Remy, while Lizzy Caplan is in talks to play the female lead.
Gambit is set for release on February 14th, 2019.
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Kinda surprised at the huge budget, given CT wanted it to feel like a smaller film. Much bigger than deadpool or Logan budget... Europe locals would explain the higher budget.
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"Gambit is a "Obscure" character?
https://screenrant.com/gambit-production-budget/ (https://screenrant.com/gambit-production-budget/)Given Deadpool’s popularity as a character and Hugh Jackman’s many years as Wolverine, it would be odd for Fox would commit such a sizable budget to a relatively obscure character like Gambit. What’s more, Gambit and his backstory hardly lend themselves to a massive blockbuster. While Remy’s mutants powers will certainly take more work than those of Deadpool or Wolverine, it’s unclear where the rest of the money will be going, assuming the $155M number is accurate.
The movie will lack the name recognition of Spider-Man and Wonder Woman and the Marvel Studios name that helped-Doctor Strange
Dont get it.... how will it lack the marvel studios name? Gambit is a marvel character lol.
admin edit. :)
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I'm guessing they just mean that it'll be a "Fox" movie instead of "Marvel Studios" movie, which helped some of the lesser-known MCU properties.
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I'm guessing they just mean that it'll be a "Fox" movie instead of "Marvel Studios" movie, which helped some of the lesser-known MCU properties.
ohhhh ???
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Thats not a bad thing in regards to releasing movies under 20th Century Fox brand name. It is a brand and from a marketing point of view, Disney should keep it and use it for material that is not "Disney"esque. I mean R stuff and other things that Disney is more careful about. I know there is fear with Disney's ownership but ... they do branch out without the name to make money.
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Thats not a bad thing in regards to releasing movies under 20th Century Fox brand name. It is a brand and from a marketing point of view, Disney should keep it and use it for material that is not "Disney"esque. I mean R stuff and other things that Disney is more careful about. I know there is fear with Disney's ownership but ... they do branch out without the name to make money.
And I could see them releasing it under the FOX name as a way to hedge their bets/test the waters with the character. If it fails, they can reboot the character and blame it on FOX. If it succeeds, they can say they say it's another Deadpool situation where they bring the character over from the Fox Universe (this is assuming they bring all of the X-Men to the MCU)
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With a budget that high, Fox must have some high expectations for it.
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"Why is Channing Tatum's budget so incredibly high"
https://movieweb.com/gambit-movie-production-budget-x-men-channing-tatum/ (https://movieweb.com/gambit-movie-production-budget-x-men-channing-tatum/)
The budget has not been reconfirmed since 2016, So I think it will possibly go down
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The budget has not been reconfirmed since 2016, So I think it will possibly go down
Do you know this to be true? Because they are making it seem like this is a "new" report. I have to admit it does seem very high. I just find it odd that it is the exact same amount that came out the first time around when Rupert Wyatt was going to direct. The amount hasn't changed a bit because it would seem that they made some changes to the film. Just like when they released that casting call a few months ago. It seemed like it was the exact same casting call that came out back when Rupert Wyatt was directing. Are they finding old info and releasing it as "new" leaked behind the scenes info now? I do have to admit that all crew so far have been top notch hirings. If this is the budget, get ready for the douche's on Collider to NEVER SHUT UP about it.
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Do you know this to be true? Because they are making it seem like this is a "new" report. I have to admit it does seem very high. I just find it odd that it is the exact same amount that came out the first time around when Rupert Wyatt was going to direct. The amount hasn't changed a bit because it would seem that they made some changes to the film. Just like when they released that casting call a few months ago. It seemed like it was the exact same casting call that came out back when Rupert Wyatt was directing. Are they finding old info and releasing it as "new" leaked behind the scenes info now? I do have to admit that all crew so far have been top notch hirings. If this is the budget, get ready for the douche's on Collider to NEVER SHUT UP about it.
I saw this and assumed the budget was not up to date from 2015.
"Budget details were unavailable, although the film's original 2015 filing with the state film office indicated at the time that it was operating with a $155 million budget"
-http://www.nola.com/movies/index.ssf/2017/12/channing_tatums_gambit_headed.html (http://www.nola.com/movies/index.ssf/2017/12/channing_tatums_gambit_headed.html) --
I have seen several articles now making a big deal about the "Massive " budget lol
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Thank you.
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So, the Captain Marvel film is going ahead as well?
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I have seen several articles now making a big deal about the "Massive " budget lol
Exactly. Even though these articles know this is an old figure, they are still reporting it and flipping about it being so high. This is the type of coverage this movie has gotten the whole time. So it's easy to see why there is a lot of negativity on the internet. Things will change once we are further along and there is real news to talk about.
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Yeah, click bait I suppose. I actually read the sceenrant article and a. Pulls paragraphs in, they do say, well this is a very old number and it might have changed, but then continue on. I also see what you mean about the casting list. It was the same as the old one, but they acted like it was 'new' and then A plan was cast and she's not the 5' 10' Parisian glamour girl...so who knows what's going on...
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@paneo01 Yeah, the Captain Marvel movie should continue forward without a hiccup. Pretty sure she is considered to fall under the Avengers umbrella
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Campea talking about the Gambit budget. The movie really doesn't need that much money. If DP did it with 58m on a prayer, Gambit should be more than fine with 80m.
https://youtu.be/xlhjWKoHwOQ
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March 2018 solitics. Gambit on covers for R&G and Astonishing
https://www.newsarama.com/37852-marvel-comics-march-2018-solicitations.html
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Link's not working for me
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@paneo01 Yeah, the Captain Marvel movie should continue forward without a hiccup. Pretty sure she is considered to fall under the Avengers umbrella
Thanks!.. It gets confusing on who has rights to what.
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Link's not working for me
https://www.newsarama.com/37852-marvel-comics-march-2018-solicitations.html (https://www.newsarama.com/37852-marvel-comics-march-2018-solicitations.html)
This one?
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Sorry, posted it in wrong thread.
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Exactly. Even though these articles know this is an old figure, they are still reporting it and flipping about it being so high. This is the type of coverage this movie has gotten the whole time. So it's easy to see why there is a lot of negativity on the internet. Things will change once we are further along and there is real news to talk about.
Yes, we need confirmed news from CT or the studio etc, not old stuff brought back up or speculation.
Personally, I dont believe the budget could be that high, That's more than Deadpool and Logan put togther I think..and a bit more than even Wonder woman :-\
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Yes, we need confirmed news from CT or the studio etc, not old stuff brought back up or speculation.
Personally, I dont believe the budget could be that high, That's more than Deadpool and Logan put togther I think..and a bit more than even Wonder woman :-\
For sure. Even when that figure came out in 2015 it was never confirmed by the studio or CT or anybody of importance so I was skeptical of it even back then let alone now. But it won't stop people from talking about it. I won't even watch Campea or Collider until something official comes out because that's all they're going to talk about until that happens.
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Budgets are funky things in the film industry. Does 155M mean for the film, or for the film AND advertising? Nothing is really clear in any recent article. Honestly 155M for the entire thing seems an entirely reasonable swing for Gambit. 155m FOR Gambit number 1? One can only dream
-cough Banshee- -cough secrets- -yetthda-
My main hope for the film is to get a good visual aesthetic and not let the plot swing around into to many corners. Just tell a good story, a measured spectacle and a few really good lines moments. Anything else will just be the tadow. I feel good about looking forward to this movie.
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- Some good points. But IMO that budget is a huge gamble for a unproven superhero film and honesly, from what I gather, not a widely popular one.
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Budgets are funky things in the film industry. Does 155M mean for the film, or for the film AND advertising? Nothing is really clear in any recent article. Honestly 155M for the entire thing seems an entirely reasonable swing for Gambit. 155m FOR Gambit number 1? One can only dream
-cough Banshee- -cough secrets- -yetthda-
My main hope for the film is to get a good visual aesthetic and not let the plot swing around into to many corners. Just tell a good story, a measured spectacle and a few really good lines moments. Anything else will just be the tadow. I feel good about looking forward to this movie.
Most advertising budgets equal, or in Deadpool's case, double the film's production budget. So unless they are going to give Gambit a 55m production budget and 100m in advertising, I doubt this number includes advertising. But I'd kinda of like that. Give or take 10m (70 prod, 80 advertising), I think they'd be a bit safer, but most tent poll movies like this spend 100 to 200m in advertising alone.
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Most advertising budgets equal, or in Deadpool's case, double the film's production budget. So unless they are going to give Gambit a 55m production budget and 100m in advertising, I doubt this number includes advertising. But I'd kinda of like that. Give or take 10m (70 prod, 80 advertising), I think they'd be a bit safer, but most tent poll movies like this spend 100 to 200m in advertising alone.
Do you know what logans numbers were?
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Do you know what logans numbers were?
97-127m production budget. Probably went up to 127 in post production. I dont think they got away with only 30m in advertising... looking for advertising.
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97-127m production budget. Probably went up to 127 in post production. I dont think they got away with only 30m in advertising... looking for advertising.
Thanks for the info...intresting to see what one of these films costs for production and than the total once advertising is added.
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Gambit Casting Call Hints at Remy’s Romantic Rival
https://screenrant.com/gambit-movie-casting-call-bandit-night-thrasher/amp/ (https://screenrant.com/gambit-movie-casting-call-bandit-night-thrasher/amp/)
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[size=3rem]Gambit Casting Call Hints at Remy’s Romantic Rival
[/size]https://screenrant.com/gambit-movie-casting-call-bandit-night-thrasher/amp/ (https://screenrant.com/gambit-movie-casting-call-bandit-night-thrasher/amp/)
They really seem to be emphasizing the romantic plot in the movie. ???
"spent years in development hell" ..oh geez
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Ohhh there'll definitely be romance.
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What exactly makes them think it's a "romantic rival" exactly? It's a pretty vague description.
"spent years in development hell" ..oh geez"
I know. Does this have to be the beginning of every single article about Gambit movie news? I think everyone gets it now. It's not even accurate.
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What exactly makes them think it's a "romantic rival" exactly? It's a pretty vague description.
"spent years in development hell" ..oh geez"
I know. Does this have to be the beginning of every single article about Gambit movie news? I think everyone gets it now. It's not even accurate.
About rival was first news with new casting that I found. Other site just told new villain.
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What exactly makes them think it's a "romantic rival" exactly? It's a pretty vague description.
"spent years in development hell" ..oh geez"
I know. Does this have to be the beginning of every single article about Gambit movie news? I think everyone gets it now. It's not even accurate.
"Troubled", "Long gestating" "many obstacles", "I'll believe in when I see it"., it would be nice to see an article written about this movie without the negative spin for once.
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1 or 2 months out and still no plot.😕 Can we assume its the same as before?
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worry not plots don't come out this early, its still crewing up at the moment
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Yeah, everything is good.
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1 or 2 months out and still no plot.😕 Can we assume its the same as before?
Plots pretty much never come out this early. We'll get plenty of other information before we get an official plot.
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Yeah count me in with those not worried. I'm looking forward to a flood of information potentially starting to come in a week or two
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http://omegaunderground.com/2017/12/31/gambit-adds-winter-soldier-guardians-2-stunt-coordinator/
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http://omegaunderground.com/2017/12/31/gambit-adds-winter-soldier-guardians-2-stunt-coordinator/ (http://omegaunderground.com/2017/12/31/gambit-adds-winter-soldier-guardians-2-stunt-coordinator/)
Coool! Loved h2h fights in Winter Soldier. Good news for New Year!
I wish everyone Happy New Year!!!
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Great news. The Winter Soldier has some of my favorite combat sequences in comic book movies.
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Cool beans. Love the behind the scenes news. Hopefully we get some sound casting news in the coming weeks.
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Question..who makes any profit from this movie, Disney or Fox?
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Fox does.
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Fox does.
. So Disney will have nothing to do with it (promotion etc) even if the deal closes before gambit comes out?
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. So Disney will have nothing to do with it (promotion etc) even if the deal closes before gambit comes out?
Probably not but Marvel now has a vested interest in the Gambit movie doing well. Marvel might promote Gambit heavily in comics/cartoons/games to go with the movie. And if the story allows, Tatum's Gambit might be a character they shift right over into the MCU. In what fashion that is remains to be seen. If they were smart they wouldn't attempt to connect Gambit to the Singer X-Men world and have it set more in Deadpool's universe. But I believe FOX will push this movie pretty hard themselves assuming production goes well and they feel good about it.
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Blah blah blah, all I heard is the fight coordinator from my favorite Marvel movie is going to be doing my fav characters movie. I'm happy. Everything in Winter Soldier was so hard hitting and fierce, not to mention practical. Can't wait to see what they have in mind.
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Blah blah blah, all I heard is the fight coordinator from my favorite Marvel movie is going to be doing my fav characters movie. I'm happy. Everything in Winter Soldier was so hard hitting and fierce, not to mention practical. Can't wait to see what they have in mind.
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Lol, good perspective... I wonder is Cranston is in the running at all for sinister...
On the other topic, I would think that any money the movie makes would eventvo to Disney once they take over the assets, so one would think they should want it to do well. But I guess it all depends on what their overall plans are for rebooting the whole franchise.
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Tatum's Gambit might be a character they shift right over into the MCU. In what fashion that is remains to be seen. If they were smart they wouldn't attempt to connect Gambit to the Singer X-Men world and have it set more in Deadpool's universe. But I believe FOX will push this movie pretty hard themselves assuming production goes well and they feel good about it.
This brings up something that I haven't really seen discussed here at all. Let's say the Gambit movie does well and they decide to carry on Tatum's character to the MCU. Potentially, we would have a Gambit who is pushing 40 (Tatum will be 38 when the movie comes out). This wouldn't be a problem for me but what if they try to do an O5 movie where the team is all in their teens? How would y'all feel about a potential universe where we have a 40 y-o Gambit and a 20 y-o Cyclops? Feels weird to me.
Of course, this is all just speculation - there are a lot of different ways the universe could go - but I wanted to hear some other thoughts.
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This brings up something that I haven't really seen discussed here at all. Let's say the Gambit movie does well and they decide to carry on Tatum's character to the MCU. Potentially, we would have a Gambit who is pushing 40 (Tatum will be 38 when the movie comes out). This wouldn't be a problem for me but what if they try to do an O5 movie where the team is all in their teens? How would y'all feel about a potential universe where we have a 40 y-o Gambit and a 20 y-o Cyclops? Feels weird to me.
Of course, this is all just speculation - there are a lot of different ways the universe could go - but I wanted to hear some other thoughts.
yeah he's older, but if he drops weight he'll be able to pull off late 20s early 30s, which is Gambit's age range... how long he'll be able to do that is something else entirely.
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yeah he's older, but if he drops weight he'll be able to pull off late 20s early 30s, which is Gambit's age range... how long he'll be able to do that is something else entirely.
That's fair. I'm probably just over-thinking it this early before anything is even announced. I don't question Tatum's love for the character or his commitment to this movie, but I'd hate for them to integrate the character into the MCU only to have 1) Tatum get burnt out on it and leave, in which case we'd be out a Gambit or 2) have a Gambit who is significantly older than the rest of the cast. Sure, if the O5 is in their 20s, I'd be fine with it. But teen O5 and a 40 y-o (hell, even a 30 y-o) Gambit is weird imo.
Again, though, just speculating.
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Oh geez, this is pretty pathetic. 🙄😲http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/why-a-gambit-movie-is-a-bad-idea (http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/why-a-gambit-movie-is-a-bad-idea)
Exerpts
-People really want Gambit to be bisexual" ...They do?
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-I don't know, have a woman write and direct it? Please? Gambit probably isn't totally awful, and he's usually about 70% less of a creep when women write him. "
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-"Dont put rogue in it. His behavior toward Rogue tends to be on the side of 90% not okay. Here's an idea: You could make a Rogue movie instead!"
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This is just a bunch of nonsense that you just have to expect in this day and age. Gambit isn't exactly the most PC character on the planet so of coarse you will have idiots like this feel it's there duty to point it out. A character who is a bit of a womanizer and sweet talks woman is a big target in today's climate. "A woman should write him", he's creepy", "The way he treats Rogue is not okay". This is all a bunch of agenda filled garbage and we know it. That's all this is and it's not really worth any of us paying attention to. I think it speaks volumes when you look at all the female fans Gambit has had over the years. Probably more than Rogue. But somehow the very idea of Gambit is offensive. BULL****! :gambit:
I don't care about the "Nobody wants this movie" crap either. Nobody was clamoring for Iron, Captain America, Thor, Doctor Strange, Ant-Man, or Guardians of the Galaxy either. But those movies were made and people loved them. That's how movies work. The main character doesn't have to be a household name to make a good film that people like.
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Yeah I saw this the other day too. What irritated me was how she cherry picked the facts convenient to her piece or left out some of the context. A couple of the comments people were leaving were pretty funny though.
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Comic Legends: "Would Marvel not allow Gambit to be bisexual"
https://www.cbr.com/gambit-bisexual-x-men-marvel/?utm_source=CBR-TW&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=CBR-TW&view=list (https://www.cbr.com/gambit-bisexual-x-men-marvel/?utm_source=CBR-TW&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=CBR-TW&view=list)
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Comic Legends: "Would Marvel not allow Gambit to be bisexual"
https://www.cbr.com/gambit-bisexual-x-men-marvel/?utm_source=CBR-TW&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=CBR-TW&view=list (https://www.cbr.com/gambit-bisexual-x-men-marvel/?utm_source=CBR-TW&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=CBR-TW&view=list)
who the f*** are all these people who want him to be bisexual? even Marvel dont want to do it....Marvel and they dont care about Gambit but they care if he is bisexual or not.
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who the f*** are all these people who want him to be bisexual? even Marvel dont want to do it....Marvel and they dont care about Gambit but they care if he is bisexual or not.
I don't think there are many people who care, it's just those who do want him to be bi are really vocal about it. Personally, I've always read him as bi but it wouldn't break my heart if it was never explicitly stated.
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CBR is really on top of things, I see. Hasn't this been known for years?
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I've envisioned him acting that way if he -really- needs something for a job, but in all his history and backstory I don't recall it ever really being shown, or really even hinted.
However, with what they did to Iceman, and the complete backlash to just sort of shoehorn in that he was gay - it left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths, mine included. If it was a gradual reveal, I wouldn't have minded... with hints thrown in here and there before the reveal. But it was just sort of BAM - gay. Introducing characters that way is fine too (Northstar), but I don't think if there have been any suggestions or hints that it is needed.
Especially not now, with the potential MCU/Fox merger... not a great time to rock the boat.
PLUS, seeing how well Deadpool did as a movie when they stick to the source material? Yeah, it's typically a formula for success. Do the legit thing first, -then- experiment.
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who the f*** are all these people who want him to be bisexual? even Marvel dont want to do it....Marvel and they dont care about Gambit but they care if he is bisexual or not.
No kidding. Marvel's editorial said no to Asmus in going in that direction for Gambit. Why its deemed to be so important for his character I have no clue.
Bring him back to his glory days, I don't need his sexuality changed when he's not even the character we know and love.
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I've envisioned him acting that way if he -really- needs something for a job, but in all his history and backstory I don't recall it ever really being shown, or really even hinted.
Right. He's not above flirting to try to get what he wants (see: Daken) but that's just it--it's an act.
I remember people used to joke about Iceman being gay, but the way that was handled in canon was so clumsy.
PLUS, seeing how well Deadpool did as a movie when they stick to the source material? Yeah, it's typically a formula for success. Do the legit thing first, -then- experiment.
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No kidding. Marvel's editorial said no to Asmus in going in that direction for Gambit. Why its deemed to be so important for his character I have no clue.
Bring him back to his glory days, I don't need his sexuality changed when he's not even the character we know and love.
Its being spun like it's some detriment or slight to the character or LGBT community, when the editor that said "no" is gay himself. He saw it as unnecessary, and I agree. How I see it, it's a little too on the nose (just like "Black Panther and the Crew"; black superheroes, that all seem to know each other, in the hood saving the day. For real? Really? I mean really? Who thought that was a good idea?! I'm a black man, and I'm saying that was a cringy idea). The well-dressed slender man that wears pink and purple turns out to be bi-sexual... Bit of stereotyping imo.
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Its being spun like it's some detriment or slight to the character or LGBT community, when the editor that said "no" is gay himself. He saw it as unnecessary, and I agree. How I see it, it's a little too on the nose (just like "Black Panther and the Crew"; black superheroes, that all seem to know each other, in the hood saving the day. For real? Really? I mean really? Who thought that was a good idea?! I'm a black man, and I'm saying that was a cringy idea). The well-dressed slender man that wears pink and purple turns out to be bi-sexual... Bit of stereotyping imo.
I also agree, that that change isn't necessary and my view has nothing to do with LGBT nor would I think it would be a slight to Gambit. And I agree on the stereotyping, that isn't necessary either. While I'm thinking of it, not all good looking men are bi or gay - some of them are hetero (gasp). LOL
There is plenty of characters than can and do represent, its how its written that is failing.
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I don't think there are many people who care, it's just those who do want him to be bi are really vocal about it. Personally, I've always read him as bi but it wouldn't break my heart if it was never explicitly stated.
Yeah, I've never seen him being hung up on gender. To me, he's dictionary definition bi (if dictionary definitions of sexuality mean anything).
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I guess the issues for me is making a change for the sake of change and with very little actual support from the books.
It's like the third person thing, while it has occurred in the books, its not a normal speech pattern for the character.
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I wasn't going to chime in on this but since we're still talking about it I'll throw in my two cents. To me, Gambit is one of the worst choices to make bi-sexual. Gambit is the quintessential Ladies Man. I don't know how you guys feel but I always felt like Gambit was totally in love with women. He's a pure ramantic Romeo type. All his great chemistry comes from female characters. Whether they be partners, love interests, or villains there is definitely a rapport his character naturally has with females. He really doesn't have any interesting or deep connections with any male characters. Outside of having a competitive rapport with other men simply due to their alpha male status's. Not even any real bromances to speak of. But he is fully interested in the ladies. That we know for sure. Making him bi just comes off like bad fan-fiction they pulled out of the blue. Why? Because he is sexual? So because he is sexual they have to make him into both sexes? Is it to make him more with the times? More diverse? To cater to bisexuals? It seems insulting. To everyone. I just don't get it. It makes no sense.
And I am not a fan of how he is depicted sometimes as a "pretty boy". When I think of Gambit I think of a ruggedly handsome type with a smooth style.
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I know a lot of people on tumblr want/think him to be bi, but I think a lot of that is based on things taken out of context. That said, if your headcanon is that he's bi, fine, whatever.
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I know a lot of people on tumblr want/think him to be bi, but I think a lot of that is based on things taken out of context. That said, if your headcanon is that he's bi, fine, whatever.
Agreed.
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Yeah, I've never seen him being hung up on gender. To me, he's dictionary definition bi (if dictionary definitions of sexuality mean anything).
Perfect way to put it.
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I wasn't going to chime in on this but since we're still talking about it I'll throw in my two cents. To me, Gambit is one of the worst choices to make bi-sexual. Gambit is the quintessential Ladies Man. I don't know how you guys feel but I always felt like Gambit was totally in love with women. He's a pure ramantic Romeo type. All his great chemistry comes from female characters. Whether they be partners, love interests, or villains there is definitely a rapport his character naturally has with females. He really doesn't have any interesting or deep connections with any male characters. Outside of having a competitive rapport with other men simply due to their alpha male status's. Not even any real bromances to speak of. But he is fully interested in the ladies. That we know for sure. Making him bi just comes off like bad fan-fiction they pulled out of the blue. Why? Because he is sexual? So because he is sexual they have to make him into both sexes? Is it to make him more with the times? More diverse? To cater to bisexuals? It seems insulting. To everyone. I just don't get it. It makes no sense.
And I am not a fan of how he is depicted sometimes as a "pretty boy". When I think of Gambit I think of a ruggedly handsome type with a smooth style.
Exactly how I view it as well.
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I wasn't going to chime in on this but since we're still talking about it I'll throw in my two cents. To me, Gambit is one of the worst choices to make bi-sexual. Gambit is the quintessential Ladies Man. I don't know how you guys feel but I always felt like Gambit was totally in love with women. He's a pure ramantic Romeo type. All his great chemistry comes from female characters. Whether they be partners, love interests, or villains there is definitely a rapport his character naturally has with females. He really doesn't have any interesting or deep connections with any male characters. Outside of having a competitive rapport with other men simply due to their alpha male status's. Not even any real bromances to speak of. But he is fully interested in the ladies. That we know for sure. Making him bi just comes off like bad fan-fiction they pulled out of the blue. Why? Because he is sexual? So because he is sexual they have to make him into both sexes? Is it to make him more with the times? More diverse? To cater to bisexuals? It seems insulting. To everyone. I just don't get it. It makes no sense.
And I am not a fan of how he is depicted sometimes as a "pretty boy". When I think of Gambit I think of a ruggedly handsome type with a smooth style.
I would disagree with this. He had pretty great chemistry with Daken in the crossover between X-23 and Daken. He just doesn't have any long standing relationships but usually has shown good chemistry with a Wolverine or Bishop when they actually bother to write him with other guys.
While I don't necessarily want him to be bi, I don't know that I would care if he was provided it was done right. I kind of view it that if he were bisexual it would be along the lines of how Lucifer is portrayed on the TV show. Usually seen with a ton of women and in love with a girl but not opposed to the occasional hook up with a guy. I just would never see him in any sort of long term relationship with a guy.
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http://omegaunderground.com/2018/01/09/foxs-gambit-movie-set-start-shooting-march-19th-new-orleans/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
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http://omegaunderground.com/2018/01/09/foxs-gambit-movie-set-start-shooting-march-19th-new-orleans/amp/?__twitter_impression=true (http://omegaunderground.com/2018/01/09/foxs-gambit-movie-set-start-shooting-march-19th-new-orleans/amp/?__twitter_impression=true)
Fox’s ‘Gambit’ Movie Set To Start Shooting On March 19th In New Orleans :gambit:
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Cant wait see what the Mad max costume designer comes up with for Gambit.
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Cant wait see what the Mad max costume designer comes up with for Gambit.
Me too! So excited!!!
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This is what I want to hear! An official start date. I'm also super excited to see Jenny Beavan's costume design. I think she'll design an awesome Gambit look.
In the upcoming weeks we're going to have to pay attention to any Tatum sightings to see how his weight cut is coming along. 8)
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Didn't know she was doing the costumes--I love her work!
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Yawn ::) :idiot2:
http://www.obsev.com/entertainment/why-fox-should-cancel-gambit-and-fast-track-their-kitty-pryde-movie-instead.html
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Yawn ::) :idiot2:
http://www.obsev.com/entertainment/why-fox-should-cancel-gambit-and-fast-track-their-kitty-pryde-movie-instead.html (http://www.obsev.com/entertainment/why-fox-should-cancel-gambit-and-fast-track-their-kitty-pryde-movie-instead.html)
Guys, it's no use paying these butthurt people the time of day. Don't even bother clicking those articles, deny them the traffic. There are people that are happy for the Gambit movie. It takes a special kind of pathetic to make a person try and ruin somebody else's fun just because they don't like it and want a different fun. Oh you don't like Gambit? Well f*** off and don't buy a ticket then.
Just ignore them :D
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Guys, it's no use paying these butthurt people the time of day. Don't even bother clicking those articles, deny them the traffic. There are people that are happy for the Gambit movie. It takes a special kind of pathetic to make a person try and ruin somebody else's fun just because they don't like it and want a different fun. Oh you don't like Gambit? Well f*** off and don't buy a ticket then.
Just ignore them :D
Yeah. Definetely won't give klicks for that crap articles too.
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And it's all the same stuff anyway. This particular one was either written by someone who read comics in the '80s and loves Kitty and/or b.) presents the idea that Kitty deserves her own movie more than Gambit, because we need more female superheroes rather than another cis white male. (Which isn't wrong, but I don't see why one has to be done in favor of another.)
As for the movie itself, my only reservations at the moment are CT (but I *am* going to give him a chance) and Jeff Zetumer--I'm worried because he hasn't done much, and apparently the RoboCop script wasn't very good.
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Yeah, I don't bother with those sites anymore. If its not the from the "main" ones we look at it, I don't click. I'm tired of negativity and favoritism.
When stuff starts to happen, then I'll be happy to hear more.
I also want to see what CT looks like now too for the role. LOL
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I expect we'll see more negativity, not just from niche publications or your average haters, but from popular sites as well, and we should be prepared for backlash.
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This is what I want to hear! An official start date. I'm also super excited to see Jenny Beavan's costume design. I think she'll design an awesome Gambit look.In the upcoming weeks we're going to have to pay attention to any Tatum sightings to see how his weight cut is coming along. 8)
Been waiting myself. He was pretty heavy when he was guest hosting the Jimmy show a month or so ago.
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I expect we'll see more negativity, not just from niche publications or your average haters, but from popular sites as well, and we should be prepared for backlash.
Im afraid you are right :(
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I'd say let's it roll off but Gambit's vast majority of fans exist outside of comicdom. I hope the hate stays away from mainstream media so it doesn't poison the waters.
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Been waiting myself. He was pretty heavy when he was guest hosting the Jimmy show a month or so ago.
Pic taken tonight of him
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His face looks more angular... Hey that other guy is in Jessica Jones...
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s*** :'(
Verbinski is out from Gambit
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/heat-vision/gambit-movie-loses-director-gore-verbinski-1074004 (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/heat-vision/gambit-movie-loses-director-gore-verbinski-1074004)
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CBR is also reporting this too:
https://www.cbr.com/gambit-movie-director-verbinski-exits/?utm_source=CBR-TW&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=CBR-TW&view=list (https://www.cbr.com/gambit-movie-director-verbinski-exits/?utm_source=CBR-TW&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=CBR-TW&view=list)
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Ugh! WHY do directors keep leaving this project? I don't think it will.get made, and if it does it already has a bad rep
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Btw I Don't buy the scheduling conflicts excuse anymore.
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Final nail in the coffin? I really liked the crew they were bringing together. :(
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Well #@$# it. Any chance of Gambit getting another solo book is out the window now.
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Christopher from Omega Underground kinda ok with that and says that the same situation with director happend to Deadpool 2, First Class and DOFP. He asumes that new director will be announced soon.[/size]He told:They would have covered their bases before an announcement like this hit the trades. I'm sure they've already met with people.[/color]
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Christopher from Omega Underground kinda ok with that and says that the same situation with director happend to Deadpool 2, First Class and DOFP. He asumes that new director will be announced soon.He told:They would have covered their bases before an announcement like this hit the trades. I'm sure they've already met with people.
He wants steven soderburgh, which would actually make sense.
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Holy crap. This has to be some sort of a record.
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He wants steven soderburgh, which would actually make sense.
Logan Lucky was good.
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Final nail in the coffin?
could be..as much as I hate to say it maybe they should clear the decks including Tatum and maybe Start over in.a couple yrs🤥
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@shawnxmadden
Verbinski news is nuts. Expect a new Gambit director announced shortly as Fox is intent on sticking to that start date from what I've heard.
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I've lost my enthusiasm over this film about a month ago. I'm almost 100% certain that the X-Men movies will be re-booted as soon as 2019-2020, which makes 'Gambit' almost pointless.
Not saying this film won't be made. None of the articles have stated that, and Verbinski was in talks to direct it, not sure if it was ever official?
Personally I'd rather see Gambit introduced in an X-Men film, then again, we might have to wait 3-4 films for that to happen. So yeah, it's a strange situation...
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Gambit is seeing its release date move from Feb. 14, 2019 to June 7, 2019. The Channing Tatum vehicle just lost its director — Gore Verbinski exited Thursday — and the search is on for a replacement.
But studio insiders believe the project, which is described as having a heavy comedic tone as it revolves around a heist, will do better as a summer Marvel movie.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/deadpool-2-gambit-new-mutants-get-new-release-dates-1073560?utm_source=twitter
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(Sigh) I wonder what crew members are leaving with GV?
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@shawnxmadden
They're pretty deep in pre-production. Leitch was announced few weeks after Miller left Deadpool sequel. Expect news soon.
Additional Gambit note: Hearing Fox intends to bring the film to SDCC, so that's another reason I wouldn't expect any further delays.
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(Sigh) I wonder what crew members are leaving with GV?
I hope not. They are great.
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Oh COME ON!!!
Ugh.
I don't like Verbinski anyway but at this point I just want the damn movie made, although it's seeming less and less likely. How long can they do this dance? It's not really fair on fans.
Maybe the whole thing does need a fresh slate?
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Eh could be worse. Could be waiting an extra 10 months like New Mutant fans :'(
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Oh COME ON!!!
Ugh.
I don't like Verbinski anyway but at this point I just want the damn movie made, although it's seeming less and less likely. How long can they do this dance? It's not really fair on fans.
Maybe the whole thing does need a fresh slate?
what kind of issue Makes THREE directors bail?
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Eh could be worse. Could be waiting an extra 10 months like New Mutant fans :'(
@TheInSneider
Word on the street is that after NEW MUTANTS tested well but not great, the studio decided to actually embrace the film’s horror elements and beef up the scares in the wake of the success of IT and GET OUT last year.
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@TheInSneider
Oh boy. That makes me nervous. Reminds me of WB retooling the DC movies to be more like the MCU
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WTF!!!!!! >:(
What do I do now? Just give up? No one has been more positive than me about this movie. What am I supposed to think now? This is the last thing this movie needed. Even if all will be fine and new director comes in and back on track, this last piece of bad press is very damaging. I thought it could easily rise above the bad press it had already gotten but this definitely hurts. If it's not going to happen just let me know now and stop torturing me!!! Three years of this is just upsetting and cruel.
They never officially announced Gore Verbinski which had me skeptical because it was the same thing with Doug Liman. But at this point I thought it was good to go on the director side of things.
I love the crew they've assembled too.
FOX clearly want to make this movie. What's the problem?!
GIVE ME MY GAMBIT MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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WTF!!!!!! >:(
What do I do now? Just give up? No one has been more positive than me about this movie. What am I supposed to think now? This is the last thing this movie needed. Even if all will be fine and new director comes in and back on track, this last piece of bad press is very damaging. I thought it could easily rise above the bad press it had already gotten but this definitely hurts. If it's not going to happen just let me know now and stop torturing me!!! Three years of this is just upsetting and cruel.
They never officially announced Gore Verbinski which had me skeptical because it was the same thing with Doug Liman. But at this point I thought it was good to go on the director side of things.
I love the crew they've assembled too.
FOX clearly want to make this movie. What's the problem?!
GIVE ME MY GAMBIT MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think everything will be good.
I hope Gore's team will stay.
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I just want this movie to start filming. Lock up a damn director already. This movie shouldn't be a hard sell.
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I just want this movie to start filming. Lock up a damn director already. This movie shouldn't be a hard sell.
They need a good NAME director or its bad rep will get worse.
Dont get it either, CT has a good reputation in the business. Hes producing and his partner is writing, so it does not look good for his rep either.
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Who wants to hear the director is gone this late into the movie having deadlines? ummmmm
Definitely a tenuous situation, but if the movie has enough verve then a good director shouldn't have too much problem. However, that's IF the movie has enough. I hope this can get pulled togehter
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So, HR said Gore had creative differences. Any theories on what keeps going wrong here?
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They need a good NAME director or its bad rep will get worse.
Dont get it either, CT has a good reputation in the business. Hes producing and his partner is writing, so it does not look good for his rep either.
Most people that will watch movie will hear about it only after trailers or TV spots, etc. So it is more important to make a good movie and marketing then just have a big name director.
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So, HR said Gore had creative differences. Any theories on what keeps going wrong here?
No clue at this point. But as bad as it is to lose the director at this point, to lose a director in the middle of shooting would be worse.
And I agree with you purplevit.
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Most people that will watch movie will hear about it only after trailers or TV spots, etc. So it is more important to make a good movie and marketing then just have a big name director.
Good point.
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Most people that will watch movie will hear about it only after trailers or TV spots, etc. So it is more important to make a good movie and marketing then just have a big name director.
True, but IMO having a respected known director would take away some of stigma this movie has right now.
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Also good point. But think that carries more weight with critics than the common movie goer. No one knew/knows who Tim Miller was/is.
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Also good point. But think that carries more weight with critics than the common movie goer. No one knew/knows who Tim Miller was/is.
Exactly. Deadpool and John Wick 1 were made by director debuts. Both movies are success, have awesome action and are among my favourites action movies.
If they will go with someone new for Gambit then I would be ok with it.
If movie would be bad then big name director won`t save it from critics either.
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No clue at this point. But as bad as it is to lose the director at this point, to lose a director in the middle of shooting would be worse.
And I agree with you purplevit.
True, 'Han Solo' had this issue, in fact I heard they even brought in an acting coach for Alden Ehrenreich midway through filming.
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Seriously?!? WTH? Though not not sure if it's really on issue with the movie, here, because the director walks and all three spin off movies get pushed back all at the same time? That smells like the suits restructuring or something
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At this point, I don't even care if this movie is good. I just want it to be made. The fact is even if it stinks then more likely, Gambit just gets rebooted anyways. I would almost prefer a teen Gambit TV series like FabNic suggested.
But in the interim, I want this movie to be made just to see what Tatum's vision of Gambit looks like.
As for this causing bad press, as long as they nail the marketing and trailer then it won't matter.
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At this point, I don't even care if this movie is good. I just want it to be made. The fact is even if it stinks then more likely, Gambit just gets rebooted anyways. I would almost prefer a teen Gambit TV series like FabNic suggested.
But in the interim, I want this movie to be made just to see what Tatum's vision of Gambit looks like.
As for this causing bad press, as long as they nail the marketing and trailer then it won't matter.
I agree 100%. I want to see Tatum's vision because the guy deserves a shot at it after all the hell he's been through to get it made, but I don't necessarily want his Gambit to be the MCU version (I want someone unknown and younger for that). Gambit would be perfect for a tv series.
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Yeah a teen Gambit series showing his Thieve's Guild years would be great and there would so much to explore. Just a quick example.
1st season can be Gambit about Gambit joining the TG and meeting Bella culminating with Bella and Gambit finally getting together at the end.
2nd season can be Gambit and Bella navigating their families and the warring between the two Guilds with a mysterious benefactor hinted.
3rd season can introduce Candra as benefactor, Sinister as a Guild client, and other mutants ending with the Wedding.
4th season can be Gambit exiled and being hunted by the Assassin's Guild with him meeting Genevieve and Frenzy for the first time.
5th season can be him running around with Scalphunter, love triangle with Genevieve and Frenzy culminating in Genevieve's death at the hands of Sabretooh
6th season can be him working for odd jobs for Sinister and trying to hunt down Sabretooth.
7th season can be him starting the Marauders ending with the MM.
Of course just rambling here but so much story material to work with.
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Seriously?!? WTH? Though not not sure if it's really on issue with the movie, here, because the director walks and all three spin off movies get pushed back all at the same time? That smells like the suits restructuring or something
could be..maybe the directors and the studio are butting heads
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Its almost too late for restructuring and headbutting. If the time table stays true, Disney won't have any actual control for some time. Fox has plenty of projects to keep rolling. They have to keep going because of prior agreements.
I don't know, its crazy. I want the movie.
I'd take something akin to Runaways for Gambit on TV. I like your ideas Remydat. :)
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Its almost too late for restructuring and headbutting. If the time table stays true, Disney won't have any actual control for some time. Fox has plenty of projects to keep rolling. They have to keep going because of prior agreements.
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They do have the option of cutting their losses instead of spending 10s of millions of more dollars though.
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True, still hoping I guess
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True, still hoping I guess
Having said that, I do think they will go ahead with it. Perhaps they have already found another director. I wonder if they have cast Sinister yet?
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Having said that, I do think they will go ahead with it. Perhaps they have already found another director. I wonder if they have cast Sinister yet?
Is Sinister confirmed appearing?
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Is Sinister confirmed appearing?
The casting calls had a character very similar.
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Oh, yeah. That's right. I mean at this point they might as well use him if the X-Universe is going to be rebooted anyways (that is, if Gambit is part of that universe). I could, however, see them pulling a switcheroo and subbing him for a villain who is very similar to keep their options open for if they do decide to integrate Tatum's Gambit into the MCU
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if they do decide to integrate Tatum's Gambit into the MCU
I keep forgetting CT is pushing 40
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I keep forgetting CT is pushing 40
Yup. Which is why I'm hoping they reboot the character for the MCU. Unless, of course, they go with an older cast with the rest of the team, but I don't see that happening with Marvel
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Tatum can still easily play characters in their late 20s, early 30s so not a problem.
Of course, I am biased but a movie Gambit in his late 20s, early 30s and a TV gambit that is a teen going through his time before the X-men makes perfect sense for me.
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Tatum can still easily play characters in their late 20s, early 30s so not a problem.
Eh, agree to disagree. The guy's not old by any means but he's starting to show his age imo
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What do you all think about the new early June release date?
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What do you all think about the new early June release date?
Not as good as Valentines Day but it is ok. At least no competition from other comic book movies.
Don't know about other movies
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Eh, agree to disagree. The guy's not old by any means but he's starting to show his age imo
Well I think he generally walks around bigger than what I would expect him to be if he is playing Gambit. Think he would slim down for the role which will probably make him look younger.
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Well I think he generally walks around bigger than what I would expect him to be if he is playing Gambit. Think he would slim down for the role which will probably make him look younger.
That's fair. I know he did bulk up for Logan Lucky. I'm thinking more long-term, I guess
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What do you all think about the new early June release date?
I would be absolutely destroyed if they lost the valentine's day date. I think that is absolutely perfect. I was in love with it the second they announced it. At least June is still a good date but man, the that feb 14 day was great.
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I don't mind if it isn't on Valentine's Day. Looks like they are going for fun Gambit, not romantic Gambit. Which I'm ok with, he's a horrible romantic.
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I don't mind if it isn't on Valentine's Day. Looks like they are going for fun Gambit, not romantic Gambit. Which I'm ok with, he's a horrible romantic.
Agreed. I think a June release date is fine, and I really want is a movie. LOL
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I don't mind if it isn't on Valentine's Day. Looks like they are going for fun Gambit, not romantic Gambit. Which I'm ok with, he's a horrible romantic.
It's not about the holiday it's about that spot in the year being a very successful one in the past few years and summer months dropping in attendance as well.
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It's not about the holiday it's about that spot in the year being a very successful one in the past few years and summer months dropping in attendance as well.
Feb 14 was great but now it is don't matter. Let's hope we will get Gambit for June:)
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the crew is still there there will be a new director announced very soon, there will be a film
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the crew is still there there will be a new director announced very soon, there will be a film
Yep! I agree :)
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I think Gambit will be a great summer blockbuster. Especially if it does have a big budget.
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The variety reporter twetted he heard it was being rewritten to "be more new Orleans"...and the script has a "heavy comedic tone"
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That might be a good thing for both. NO and comedic tone.
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The variety reporter twetted he heard it was being rewritten to "be more new Orleans"...and the script has a "heavy comedic tone"
When? Now or back when it majorly re-written? I'm surprised it wasn't more "New Orleans" originally. Comedic tone is fine I just hope they settle down once in a while to take things a bit seriously too.
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When? Now or back when it majorly re-written? I'm surprised it wasn't more "New Orleans" originally. Comedic tone is fine I just hope they settle down once in a while to take things a bit seriously too.
It wasn't stated but I think it was about last rewrites.
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Apparently DCs "Flash" has also lost a couple of directors
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The variety reporter twetted he heard it was being rewritten to "be more new Orleans"...and the script has a "heavy comedic tone"
http://www.nola.com/movies/index.ssf/2018/01/channing_tatums_gambit_loses_i.html
Tatum himself maybe involved with these set backs. Seems he has a lot of influence over the process as I can't see anyone else wanting to make it more "New Orleans". I guess they mean more authentic?
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http://www.nola.com/movies/index.ssf/2018/01/channing_tatums_gambit_loses_i.html (http://www.nola.com/movies/index.ssf/2018/01/channing_tatums_gambit_loses_i.html)
Tatum himself maybe involved with these set backs. Seems he has a lot of influence over the process as I can't see anyone else wanting to make it more "New Orleans". I guess they mean more authentic?
. I was thinking the same thing, betting money he wants it a certain way and the directors that left didn't agree or wanted something different. I hope he know what he's doing😯 perhaps he got in over his head. He's never produced anything with this big of a budget before.
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Sounds like the same reason why Tim Miller left Deadpool 2... Reynolds wanted one thing, he wanted another. Supposedly.
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. I was thinking the same thing, betting money he wants it a certain way and the directors that left didn't agree or wanted something different. I hope he know what he's doing😯 perhaps he got in over his head. He's never produced anything with this big of a budget before.
Dang, hadn't even thought about that. Don't get me wrong, I admire his passion for the character and the movie but I could see that being counterproductive at a point. Is it still on track to start shooting in March? Seems like a tight timeline if they haven't announced a new director yet
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Too many cooks in the kitchen I guess. Sounds like Tatum needs a director who understands Tatum is ultimately in charge. Time will tell if his influence has a similar effect as Reynolds.
He probably needs a young director like Miller as even with Miller we saw what happens when a director achieves success. He and Reynolds clashed on DP 2 in a way Miller likely would not have on DP when he was lesser known.
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http://www.nola.com/movies/index.ssf/2018/01/channing_tatums_gambit_loses_i.html (http://www.nola.com/movies/index.ssf/2018/01/channing_tatums_gambit_loses_i.html)
Tatum himself maybe involved with these set backs. Seems he has a lot of influence over the process as I can't see anyone else wanting to make it more "New Orleans". I guess they mean more authentic?
I think New Orleans rewrites happend after "Deadpool and Logan opened more doors" for Gambit movie. I doubt it is some new rewrites.
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I believe in Tatum's vision more than any of three previous directors.
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So is this guy a gambit fan or not? - https://twitter.com/johncampea (https://twitter.com/johncampea) .....cant really tell lol..
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So is this guy a gambit fan or not? - https://twitter.com/johncampea (https://twitter.com/johncampea) .....cant really tell lol..
No. He told earlier that Gambit movie was dead and he wasn't right. Now he tells again that it is dead.
But he liked idea of Tatum as Gambit.
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No. He told earlier that Gambit movie was dead and he wasn't right. Now he tells again that it is dead.
What sources does he claim(twice?) to base its officially dead on?
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What sources does he claim(twice?) to base its officially dead on?
First that he hadn`t heard any new news. Now, I suppose that Verbinski left.
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-Now, I suppose that Verbinski left.
That seems be the reason non gambit fans/sites are giving as well lol
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Campea is pretty known in the DC crowd for starting/passing on rumors without any real proof or something really vague. So, I wouldn't read too much into his tweets as being anything other than speculation at this point
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Heck, how about CT directing it himself?....
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Eh, Idk about that. It would be tough to direct a superhero movie you're starring in, especially if it's your first time directing.
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Eh, Idk about that. It would be tough to direct a superhero movie you're starring in, especially if it's your first time directing.
Will be hard. But he can co-direct :) Back to back ;D
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@Unreel__News
#BREAKING 'HILARY'S AMERICA' director Dinesh D'Souza is now in final agreements to helm '#GAMBIT (Source: @THR )
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That's... a joke, surely?
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That's... a joke, surely?
lol, I was thinking the same thing...
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Yeah, just a joke. But I got it only after posting ;D
Sorry guys.
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Mmmk. lol
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-Like this idea
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@misskubelik Why doesn't Channing Tatum just get Soderbergh to/direct GAMBIT and let him turn it into an X MEN HEIST movie. Surely someone in Hollywood gets how this is the solution right.
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-Like this idea
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@misskubelik Why doesn't Channing Tatum just get Soderbergh to/direct GAMBIT and let him turn it into an X MEN HEIST movie. Surely someone in Hollywood gets how this is the solution right.
It's already a heist movie from what's been said of the script. And if it's not, it's a little late in the game to go changing the script. Doing it once or however many times just chased off their 3rd director.
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I think if Soderbergh was interested in Gambit movie then he would be announced before Wyatt and Gambit would have been released 2 years ago.
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Cool fanart pic with Tatum as Gambit. Found it from some video review and made print screen.
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Yeah the art is cool but the video not so much. The guys from this channel are not Gambit fans at all. I watched it yesterday because I wanted to see what kind of nonsense they would come up with this time and they didn’t disappoint. The video's purpose is to mock the movie saying that it could only be salvaged it if it were “a redneck musical directed by Steven Soderbergh, starring Channing Tatum and Matthew McConaughey (who they don’t even mention again). It’s really ridiculous. All the directors dropping out and delays took a toll and it’s not without reason there has been too much pessimism.
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I didn't watch that video. That is why I posted only pic.
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Yeah the art is cool but the video not so much. The guys from this channel are not Gambit fans at all. I watched it yesterday because I wanted to see what kind of nonsense they would come up with this time and they didn’t disappoint. The video's purpose is to mock the movie saying that it could only be salvaged it if it were “a redneck musical directed by Steven Soderbergh, starring Channing Tatum and Matthew McConaughey (who they don’t even mention again). It’s really ridiculous. All the directors dropping out and delays took a toll and it’s not without reason there has been too much pessimism.
. Yeah, very sadly the movie already has a bad rep.😫 hard to get people on board.
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Anybody read this? IMO it actually makes a few valid points. https://www.comicbookmovie.com/x-men/gambit/editorial-why-the-gambit-movie-fell-apart-and-what-21st-century-fox-can-do-next-a157095
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I’m so tired of "Gambit is not popular enough to carry his own movie" argument. Marvel has proved it not true repeatedly.
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Heck, ant man made tons of money lol
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Harris kind of retreads a lot of the same stuff we've heard like "Gambit's usually known as part of the X-Men, not on his own" or "He's not as well known as Deadpool or Wolverine" and then doesn't really offer any ideas of what they should do next other than "Pull the plug on it". Also, it's kind of annoying how he (and Josh Wilding - the author to the article he linked to) seems to think that just because the movie would have a comedic tone, that it means it will most likely be and outright comedy. Iron Man had a heavy comedic tone imo but it wasn't an outright comedy by any means.
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...WTH? Deadpool was not mainstream before his movie. No one outside of comic book readers and whatever children were watching that Spiderman cartoon had ever heard of him outside of a couple video game appearances. Gambit was part of one of the most influential TV shows of a generation. Prior to the Deadpool movie, Gambit had a way larger fanbase than Deadpool. That's a fact. Deadpool broke through with that movie and if they can do that with an obscure character like that, a well known one will slay if it's done right. as bad as Wolverine Origin's was and how small a part Gambit played in it, he stood out in the film as a bright spot.
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as bad as Wolverine Origin's was and how small a part Gambit played in it, he stood out in the film as a bright spot.
So true. I know a lot of people disliked Kitsch and his accent, but I personally really liked him
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Kitsch was fine. The problem was the character he played was not Gambit just like Reynolds didn't play Deadpool.
They played characters that were like cousins to Gambit and Deadpool.
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I get where you're coming from but I don't think Gambit was nearly as bad as Deadpool
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Yeah wasn't saying it was bad. Just saying it really wasn't Gambit.
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They wrecked Deadpool in that movie. I really felt for his fans. Kitch was okay as Gambit, the effects with his eyes, and the action sequences wasn't too bad with the exception of Logan knocking him out for comedic effect.
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Is no news good news in this case? Lol
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Is no news good news in this case? Lol
Ha! I could see that. Personally, I just want a definitive answer of what's going on. If the movie isn't being made, so be it - I just want to know because the wait and not knowing is torture
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Ha! I could see that. Personally, I just want a definitive answer of what's going on. If the movie isn't being made, so be it - I just want to know because the wait and not knowing is torture
yeah, I wish we could find out one way or another already. This has been going on for years😥
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Keeping faith. Went through years and years of Deadpool movie struggles. I know this will be made and I know it'll be a success because of Tatum.
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In Tatum we trust! I mean that, I think the film will happen because of his passion for the character and I absolutely like that about him.
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Yeah, I agree. It will happen. And Tatum's passion is so awesome!
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Hi again he's some shameless promotion, so after many attempts we did an impromptu short Pod about the Gambit film in between recordings, we realized after that the audio was funky, i did my best to put a vid together( didnt want it to go to waste. Theres alot of negativity going around and i wanted to do something positive, now it probably doesnt do that and i ended up saying nothing new really but you might get enjoyment from my friends mocking my love for Gambit. Give it a look, feed back is welcome and hopefully we can get the audio fixed, i think the mics banjaxed (f***ed)
edit heres a better version of the audi not great but better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUBuqlFpa0M
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Hi again he's some shameless promotion, so after many attempts we did an impromptu short Pod about the Gambit film in between recordings, we realized after that the audio was funky, i did my best to put a vid together( didnt want it to go to waste. Theres alot of negativity going around and i wanted to do something positive, now it probably doesnt do that and i ended up saying nothing new really but you might get enjoyment from my friends mocking my love for Gambit. Give it a look, feed back is welcome and hopefully we can get the audio fixed, i think the mics banjaxed (f***ed)
edit heres a better version of the audi not great but better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUBuqlFpa0M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUBuqlFpa0M)
Great listen! Nice to hear some positive and constructive talk about the movie,👍...and I agree the huge budget is a bit "Worrying"
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Some fanart
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Some fanart
nice!
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Some fanart
That's pretty rad. I like the suit a lot
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So Black Panther is Gambit now? Purple and kinetic energy
https://youtu.be/5GHEoyYBtFA (https://youtu.be/5GHEoyYBtFA)
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/9G3wg7lH5DpxC/giphy.gif)
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Do you all think this will actually start filming in march?
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Do you all think this will actually start filming in march?
I want to believe but I just don't know. I was hoping we'd at least hear about a director by now
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I think they will start filming on April. Or May.
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I want to believe but I just don't know. I was hoping we'd at least hear about a director by now
I hear ya, I guess it's not looking good at this point. No director or cast additions. Hoping Channing can give us the status in an interview or something.
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I would think now that the release date has been pushed back so would the filming date. Seems only natural. They don't need to start filming in March '18 for a movie that will come out June '19.
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https://lrmonline.com/news/shocking-news-gambit-wont-make-its-march-production-date-in-new-orleans/ (https://lrmonline.com/news/shocking-news-gambit-wont-make-its-march-production-date-in-new-orleans/)
It's reported that the movie has been put on hiatus until a new director is found. And now it might even be shot in Montreal instead of NO
Here's the original OU story if LRM is too spammy: http://omegaunderground.com/2018/01/29/gambits-march-production-start-nola-given-axe/
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Sad, this movie seems more and more less likely to happen. Tatum is going to be 40, by the time this flipping thing gets made
If it gets mad.
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Sad, this movie seems more and more less likely to happen. Tatum is going to be 40, by the time this flipping thing gets made
If it gets made.
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Sad, this movie seems more and more less likely to happen. Tatum is going to be 40, by the time this flipping thing gets made
If it gets mad.
Yeah, I don't mean to be negative but I have a feeling Verbinski leaving may have been the final nail in the coffin. Can't imagine how Tatum's feeling about all this. Poor guy
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Lame news but I am not surprised. I hope Tatum's faith is strong and new director finally will do justice for movie.
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From @Christopher_m " I hear he's still keen, but others have also put out the idea Tatum is stalling out the contract. I dunno could be directors have to play ball with Channing or their out."
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I'm not super savvy on the movie industry but what's the advantage of stalling?
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I'm not super savvy on the movie industry but what's the advantage of stalling?
get paid without making the movie I think. Anyway, doubt that's it. CT seems like he really wants to play gambit. But honestly I think he is the reason for all the holdups
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Yeah, I guess I don't know the guy but it doesn't seem like he'd pull something like that. I could definitely see him being particular on how the movie is made, though, which would explain the delays and director problems
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Tatum waited for Gambit movie as Hatiko. No way he would do such thing.
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Tatum waited for Gambit movie as Hatiko. No way he would do such thing.
agreed, he wouldn't. But its disheartening, this movie takes one step forward than 3 steps back. I'll actually be pleasantly suprised at this point if it goes ahead
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I think the issue with Tatum and Verbinski is that Tatum wants Gambit to be at or close to the same level of quality as Logan. While we all like the original Pirates movie, Verbinski is not the guy to do that.
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You can't help but think that Tatum has a lot of control and a pretty specific vision for this movie and maybe that's part of the reason for the revolving door for directors. But I can't help but think by director #3 they should have most of this stuff sorted out by now. I am officially completely confused now when I was very confident before. It's worth noting that each director has gotten bigger in name. Though I wouldn't be shocked if the final director wound up being a smaller name.
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But I can't help but think by director #3 they should have most of this stuff sorted out by now.
I feel you there. But who knows what's going on behind the scenes. I'm sure each director has had a different vision so they wouldn't want to stick to whatever the previous director had, which would be exhausting from Tatum's perspective
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Channing has just started to follow Jibreezus on Instagram.
Card tricks
Example here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoBVtTLaZaQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoBVtTLaZaQ)
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I feel you there. But who knows what's going on behind the scenes. I'm sure each director has had a different vision so they wouldn't want to stick to whatever the previous director had, which would be exhausting from Tatum's perspective
I hope Tatum's not being a diva and making some of these problems himself...
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Which I could totally see. The guy's passionate about the project for sticking with it for so long. Maybe that passion turned into a need to have everything a certain way, which could scare away potential directors. Purely speculation, obviously, but it's worth speculating about.
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Neko, thanks for edits for my post. Tried to do it but letters were getting only smaller :(
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Mmmm, I don't know. It's hard for me to see Tatum being the problem. And honestly, I don't have a reason why that is. I just don't see him being the issue why directors keep jumping off. It's not like he's a bad person who nobody wants to work with. The guy's in new movies every year.
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Neko, thanks for edits for mu post. Tried to do it bur letters were getting only smaller :(
No problem. Not sure how or why its happening but I'm used to fixing. LOL All good Purplevit. :D
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My expectations of this film actually happening have dropped dramatically... :-\ What’s wrong with these people! >:(
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And as always, you can count on CBR to be negative.
https://www.cbr.com/gambit-movie-abandoned-fox/?utm_source=CBR-TW&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=CBR-TW&view=list
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Do these idiots honestly think Gambit literally has NO fans? Pathetic.
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Don't even open negative articles. We shouldn't give even 1 click for that crap articles.
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Agreed. There is absolutely no point in reading any of that crap until there is actual news. Judging by all the youtube reviews of rogue & Gambit theres even more gambit fans than anyone even realizes.
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Don't even open negative articles. We shouldn't give even 1 click for that crap articles.
Agreed.. honestly, I don't open anything until I see it posted here or in the Gambit Appreciation thread on CBR and only if it's tabbed as a reasonable article to read.
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‘Gambit’ Production Start Delayed Until The Summer – Still Shooting In NOLA
http://omegaunderground.com/2018/02/06/gambit-production-start-delayed-summer-still-shooting-nola/#rTPWF8jmsUilSe0d.99 (http://omegaunderground.com/2018/02/06/gambit-production-start-delayed-summer-still-shooting-nola/#rTPWF8jmsUilSe0d.99)
With the March start date scrapped, @OmegaUGround has learned it's now expected to start filming this summer in NOLA (we assume starting sometime between July-August). Gives Fox time to get a new director and everyone on the same page
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We'll see. I think this could be a blessing. This time of year is a pretty busy time down there.. perhaps this not only gives them more time to find a director, but allows them more accessibility over the summer.
Although it would have been cool if they'd been able to film during Mardis Gras. I'm sure they could always recreate that if they wanted to.
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Can someone get a broom for all the cobwebs in here?😶
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Maybe it's better we don't talk about it.
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Maybe it's better we don't talk about it.
LOL.
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There really isn't anything to talk about. We're just kind of in limbo waiting for another director to be brought on. All we really know is that they still seem determined to get this movie in the theater on June 7, 2019.
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As they were with EarPods release dates... ::)
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Gambit filming in montreal.?
https://www.mtlblog.com/news/channing-tatum-is-coming-to-montreal (https://www.mtlblog.com/news/channing-tatum-is-coming-to-montreal)
Sounds like its just going off off previous theories.
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Gambit filming in montreal.?
https://www.mtlblog.com/news/channing-tatum-is-coming-to-montreal (https://www.mtlblog.com/news/channing-tatum-is-coming-to-montreal)
Sounds like its just going off off previous theories.
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Hmm, interesting. How likely is it that they're filming? They don't even have a director announced and I thought filming had been put on hold until they could find one. Maybe scouting some locations?
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Gambit filming in montreal.?
https://www.mtlblog.com/news/channing-tatum-is-coming-to-montreal (https://www.mtlblog.com/news/channing-tatum-is-coming-to-montreal)
Sounds like its just going off off previous theories.
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Cool! Good find. Everything is good that movie is alive.
I think baseball cap is hiding Gambit`s hair :gambit:
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IDK it seems to me it is just speculation. Like the guy on this blog must have seen this conjecture on omegaunderground and jumped the gun. "News circulating around Hollywood" doesn't sound like a confirmation with actual sources. That picture of him holding the sign is photoshopped.
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Cool! Good find. Everything is good that movie is alive.
I think baseball cap is hiding Gambit`s hair :gambit:
If you look at his Instagram, he is noticeably thinner with his hair longer on the top and trimmed on the sides.
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I'm pretty sure Omega underground confirmed that the production moving to Montreal was false and that it's still filming in NOLA.
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If you look at his Instagram, he is noticeably thinner with his hair longer on the top and trimmed on the sides.
Checked it. Yes you are right. Good. Was afraid to see him bold again.
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In continuation for Tatum`s hair talk :)
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I like the hair.
https://omegaunderground.com/2018/02/06/gambit-production-start-delayed-summer-still-shooting-nola/ (https://omegaunderground.com/2018/02/06/gambit-production-start-delayed-summer-still-shooting-nola/)
Here's the article of them talking about how the movie is still shooting in NOLA. Which I am happy about. It not being filmed in New Orleans at this point would be disappointing.
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I like the hair.
https://omegaunderground.com/2018/02/06/gambit-production-start-delayed-summer-still-shooting-nola/ (https://omegaunderground.com/2018/02/06/gambit-production-start-delayed-summer-still-shooting-nola/)
Here's the article of them talking about how the movie is still shooting in NOLA. Which I am happy about. It not being filmed in New Orleans at this point would be disappointing.
It is article for the beginning og February. Place may change till the start of sgooting. Ofcourse I would love NOLA more too but we will se what will happen.
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Hair's looking good and he seems to have lost a little of the bulk.
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Hair's looking good and he seems to have lost a little of the bulk.
A little? He's lost face weight! That means he's been cutting for a while. I was concerned when I saw that he was still pretty pudgy while hosting that late night show.
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That article about still shooting in NOLA is only 2 weeks old. I'd be surprised if the location changed already and Channing was already there doing stuff for the movie.
Yeah, he's looking trimmed down again. I wonder if he's getting tired of slimming down and then getting the production date backed up again. Anyway, He's got plenty of time to slim down to exactly where he wants to be. I think he's going to look great in costume when the time comes.
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Meanwhile, Channing Tatum's long-in-development Gambit is still looking for a director. A new draft of the script is expected in March and it is greenlit, meaning that the studio has budgeted it.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/will-disney-disrupt-foxs-x-men-movie-mega-plans-1088623?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=THR%27s%20Today%20in%20Entertainment_now_2018-02-27%2010:19:17_rrahman&utm_term=hollywoodreporter_tie
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I can't change size of text in normal way from my phone:(
Edit: changed from computer.
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Meanwhile, Channing Tatum's long-in-development Gambit is still looking for a director. A new draft of the script is expected in March and it is greenlit, meaning that the studio has budgeted it.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/will-disney-disrupt-foxs-x-men-movie-mega-plans-1088623?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=THR%27s%20Today%20in%20Entertainment_now_2018-02-27%2010:19:17_rrahman&utm_term=hollywoodreporter_tie (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/will-disney-disrupt-foxs-x-men-movie-mega-plans-1088623?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=THR%27s%20Today%20in%20Entertainment_now_2018-02-27%2010:19:17_rrahman&utm_term=hollywoodreporter_tie)
. why on earth do they keep rewriting the script over and over?
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. why on earth do they keep rewriting the script over and over?
Who knows. Maybe they are deleting Madrox from it because of Franco situation or keeping it as far as possible for Apocalypse andFirst Class movies.
Or just adding jokes.
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. why on earth do they keep rewriting the script over and over?
My guess is they're trying to appease possible directors
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I'll direct it.
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sadly, very likely at least some of the great crew will look for other work since its taking so long.
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Interesting...Chris Claremont said while back he could have seen woody harelson playing gambit 20 yrs ago.. Really? Lol https://youtu.be/TQcVzfODyqw (https://youtu.be/TQcVzfODyqw)
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No.....
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Absolutely not.
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Whhhaaa?
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Even yothe my woody harrelson.. I don't see it.
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Interesting. . . Chris Claremont said while back he could have seen woody harelson playing gambit 20 yrs ago. . Really? Lol https://youtu. be/TQcVzfODyqw
Haha. April Fools, right? Except. . . it's still March. . . and not. . . April. . . ???
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I kinda think that Woody is a really good actor and charming enough for Gambit. Ofcourse he won`t be my choice but I think young Woody could play Gambit fine enough.
(https://www.google.com.ua/search?q=woody+harrelson+young&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjd8JGfvebZAhXENJoKHUdGD7wQ_AUICigB&biw=1517&bih=707#imgrc=jTN7FuusaqJ2KM:)
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Has anyone seen the new TV show "Deception"? The main actor reminds me strongly of Gambit. He pulls off a lot of neat card tricks in the first episode.
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Has anyone seen the new TV show "Deception"? The main actor reminds me strongly of Gambit. He pulls off a lot of neat card tricks in the first episode.
I haven't but I've been interested and my SO loves magicians. Is it good?
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I have to admit I was a bit disappointed by it. I find it formulaic (i. e. cops team up with genius [fill in the blank] to solve unusual crimes), but I give them points for a few interesting twists. The magic tricks are pretty neat though.
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Deadpool 2 Filmed a Super Secret Cameo – Who Is It?
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The cameo is clearly just that, as it only took 2 hours to film, but since Deadpool 2 will end with three X-Force members assembled, why not make it four?
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One way they could get around all the casting though could be to bring in someone who’s been cast for years: Channing Tatum. He’s been signed on to play Gambit for years now, and since Gambit lost another director recently and was delayed again, there’s no telling when we’ll see his solo movie. But if Fox is still keen to get Tatum involved, what better way to do so then to make him part of the X-Force roster and have him cameo in Deadpool 2 first? It’d be a great way to generate some interest in Tatum’s take, set up an appearance in a movie likely coming in 2019, and hopefully give more momentum to getting Gambit off the ground.
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https://screenrant.com/deadpool-2-secret-cameo-x-men-wolverine/
Juat a speculation but an interesting one.
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A Gambit cameo would be great especially in Deadpool, which will make tons of money and have a lot of exposure. Tatum said he wanted to introduce the character only in his solo movie way back when Apocalypse was going into filming. However the movie has gone through so many bumps that a perspective on the character would be welcomed to get people excited so that it can finally get off the ground. It’s been so frustrating.
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A Gambit cameo would be great especially in Deadpool, which will make tons of money and have a lot of exposure. Tatum said he wanted to introduce the character only in his solo movie way back when Apocalypse was going into filming. However the movie has gone through so many bumps that a perspective on the character would be welcomed to get people excited so that it can finally get off the ground. It’s been so frustrating.
Yeah, I feel like at a certain point, beggars can't be choosers. Tatum needs something to inject some excitement into the film, not just from the fans but from an potential directors, and this could definitely be that
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Wasn't(yet another) revised script due in march? Hopefully word on a director soon
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I think a cameo in Deadpool could be pretty cool.
But...gah...the lack of progress on the solo film is getting frustrating. I've come around to the idea of Tatum as Gambit (not my first choice by a long shot, but I'm willing to keep an open mind), so now I'm just anxiously waiting for them to pin down a director and start filming. I wonder if Daniel Craig is still in consideration for Sinister?
Anyway, the last news I heard was that principal photography might be moved from New Orleans to Montreal.
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But...gah...the lack of progress on the solo film is getting frustrating.
This... I’m really starting to wonder. And not for the first time, if this film is ever going to happen... :-\
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This... I’m really starting to wonder. And not for the first time, if this film is ever going to happen... :-\
Still trying to figure what the issue is, when not one, not two....but three directors leave a movie . As far as the announced dead pool cameo, as fantastic and logical as it would be. 99. 9 % sure it will.not be gambit.
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As far as the announced dead pool cameo, as fantastic and logical as it would be. 99. 9 % sure it will.not be gambit.
Yeah, I have a feeling it won't be either. I hope we eat our words though haha
Wasn't there also a character added to New Mutants recently? Maybe it's the same or connected in some way
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Yeah, I have a feeling it won't be either. I hope we eat our words though haha
Wasn't there also a character added to New Mutants recently? Maybe it's the same or connected in some way
somebody joked on twitter gambit should make an appearance to make fun of how long his movie is taking lol
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These jokes don't work out well for Gambit. Allegedly a "fan" made a joke to Wilson for her arc in Xmen about how Gambit should be in her story arc and we got clown pants Gambit. And to top it off ... the Gambit fan got blamed for suggesting it, I highly doubt a hardcore fan would have gone in that direction. None of it, I can't deal, prior experience burned enough.
Is what it is ... just my view. I'm tired of being burned for liking this character so much.
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Didn't the Deadpool movie take forever to make too? (I'm trying to stay positive ;) )
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Didn't the Deadpool movie take forever to make too? (I'm trying to stay positive ;) )
I'm sure somebody else knows more, but I think it was 9-10 yrs...but it only changed directors once I think
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These jokes don't work out well for Gambit. Allegedly a "fan" made a joke to Wilson for her arc in Xmen about how Gambit should be in her story arc and we got clown pants Gambit. And to top it off ... the Gambit fan got blamed for suggesting it, I highly doubt a hardcore fan would have gone in that direction. None of it, I can't deal, prior experience burned enough.
Is what it is ... just my view. I'm tired of being burned for liking this character so much.
Not just clown pants Gambit, sleazy goes to a festival by himself to hit on women Gambit. In other words, NOT Gambit. That writer was a joke and to be honest so are the editors for letting that happen.
Anyway about the movie, guys I won't lie I'm really disheartened at the moment. Seeing that Deadpool trailer with X-Force in it, and the jokes about it becoming a franchise, man, I was really looking forward to the Deadpool and Gambit movies leading to the X-Force movies with the two of them in a team. Now? Not sure Gambit is happening even.
I kind of give up, man. If it happens, good. If not...oh well. I don't think I'm going to talk or think about it, unless I see a trailer.
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Nah. Gambit will happen. Will be cool if he will be in X-Force too.
I still think that Sinister will be introduced in Gambit and then will be a big bad in X-Force.
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Not just clown pants Gambit, sleazy goes to a festival by himself to hit on women Gambit. In other words, NOT Gambit. That writer was a joke and to be honest so are the editors for letting that happen.
Anyway about the movie, guys I won't lie I'm really disheartened at the moment. Seeing that Deadpool trailer with X-Force in it, and the jokes about it becoming a franchise, man, I was really looking forward to the Deadpool and Gambit movies leading to the X-Force movies with the two of them in a team. Now? Not sure Gambit is happening even.
I kind of give up, man. If it happens, good. If not...oh well. I don't think I'm going to talk or think about it, unless I see a trailer.
its utterly depressing to see all these superhero films announced than put into production so quickly.....yet gambit almost 5 years Later is about to go on its 4th director and who knows how many rewrites.. My applaud for Channing is now turning to blame. He seems to be a competent producer but he may be way over his head on this. He may be doing gambit nore harm than good. Sadly maybe the best move now is to let this go and have gambit be introduced in some other marvel films .
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Nah. Gambit will happen. Will be cool if he will be in X-Force too.
I still think that Sinister will be introduced in Gambit and then will be a big bad in X-Force.
Totally down for that. He fits in so much better with the Deadpool cast and crew than he does with the main X-Men film's cast members.
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its utterly depressing to see all these superhero films announced than put into production so quickly.....yet gambit almost 5 years Later is about to go on its 4th director and who knows how many rewrites.. My applaud for Channing is now turning to blame. He seems to be a competent producer but he may be way over his head on this. He may be doing gambit nore harm than good. Sadly maybe the best move now is to let this go and have gambit be introduced in some other marvel films .
I'm with you on this. Tatum won me over with his dedication to the project, but he's losing me again for multiple factors and this is one of them. To be fair, there's no real proof that he is to blame, but there's something going on there.
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I find the lack of news very disconcerting. If this film is set to be released early 2019, there should have been more news about it.
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I find the lack of news very disconcerting. If this film is set to be released early 2019, there should have been more news about it.
It is normal.They told that new script is expected in March. After it we will get director news. Then everything else.
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I find the lack of news very disconcerting. If this film is set to be released early 2019, there should have been more news about it.
agree, the only cast member confirmed after all this time is Tatum. Lizzy was never confirmed and if she was in....she may have dropped out.
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Sigh...yes, is up in the air...again...
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It is normal.They told that new script is expected in March. After it we will get director news. Then everything else.
This is not normal. There would’ve already been news about directors, casting and such. This has been drawing on way too long, and I’m getting more disheartened about it each month that passes by.
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This is not normal. There would’ve already been news about directors, casting and such. This has been drawing on way too long, and I’m getting more disheartened about it each month that passes by.
the film is happening, when there's news to be released it will be,but it is happening
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This is not normal. There would’ve already been news about directors, casting and such. This has been drawing on way too long, and I’m getting more disheartened about it each month that passes by.
New script - New director - casting - production.
News can go only in that way. They will get new script and then director. After that we will get more news.
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Shooting is expected to start in the summer (speculation places it around august) so there's a couple of months left for a director to be hired and longer than that before we start hearing about casting news.
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Totally down for that. He fits in so much better with the Deadpool cast and crew than he does with the main X-Men film's cast members.
pretty sure dead pool was filmed way before gambit even hired a costume director, so doubt that they would have had gambits look figured out to film something.
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pretty sure dead pool was filmed way before gambit even hired a costume director, so doubt that they would have had gambits look figured out to film something.
New secret cameo in Deadpool 2 was filmed in March during reshoots.
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New secret cameo in Deadpool 2 was filmed in March during reshoots.
so this month?
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This is not normal. There would’ve already been news about directors, casting and such. This has been drawing on way too long, and I’m getting more disheartened about it each month that passes by.
well, the going on 4 directors part isn't normal anyway lol. Guessing its issue with the script and/or the the directors dont agree with the writer/producers vision.
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well, the going on 4 directors part isn't normal anyway lol. Guessing its issue with the script and/or the the directors dont agree with the writer/producers vision.
Yeah, they were doing reshoots a while ago.
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Yeah, they were doing reshoots a while ago.
You mean re-writes? I didn't think they'd started shooting anything yet
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You mean re-writes? I didn't think they'd started shooting anything yet
I was talking about reshoots for Deadpool 2. That they possibly could have Gambit cameo in it. Bout I doubt, really. Don`t want to expect something again.
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I was talking about reshoots for Deadpool 2. That they possibly could have Gambit cameo in it. Bout I doubt, really. Don`t want to expect something again.
Oooh ok. My bad
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If Tatum cuts his hair really short, then I'm going to get REALLY worried...
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If Tatum cuts his hair really short, then I'm going to get REALLY worried...
Agree. So far his hair is good :)
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If Tatum cuts his hair really short, then I'm going to get REALLY worried...
here he is last night. Long on top, short on sides. But its been that way for awhile lol
https://www.instagram.com/p/BgzYtMGA6v1/?tagged=channingtatum (https://www.instagram.com/p/BgzYtMGA6v1/?tagged=channingtatum)
He has slimmed down since he did Kimmel.
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https://screenrant.com/x-men-dark-phoenix-new-mutants-release-date/
X-Men: Dark Phoenix & New Mutants Get New 2019 Release Dates
X-Men: Dark Phoenix moves from November 2, 2018 to February 14, 2019
– the week before the slot to which New Mutants had previously been pushed.
As for The New Mutants, it moves from February 22, 2019 to August 19, 2019.
It may affect Gambit. Interesting if June 2019 is still active for Gambit.
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What in tarnation is fox doing????
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https://screenrant.com/x-men-dark-phoenix-new-mutants-release-date/ (https://screenrant.com/x-men-dark-phoenix-new-mutants-release-date/)
X-Men: Dark Phoenix & New Mutants Get New 2019 Release Dates
X-Men: Dark Phoenix moves from November 2, 2018 to February 14, 2019
– the week before the slot to which New Mutants had previously been pushed.
As for The New Mutants, it moves from February 22, 2019 to August 19, 2019.
It may affect Gambit. Interesting if June 2019 is still active for Gambit.
Wow. New Mutants is delayed again?! Ugh. I'm so sick of Fox mis-managing their properties. Really hoping the Disney deal goes through
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Wtf? what a hot mess. How this affects gambit is troubling. Filming gets delayed again, its done.
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I think that if Tatum and FOX are still fully committed to this film, and there has been no news to the contrary, I think the cameo in Deadpool being Gambit is a super high possibility. It makes the most sense, it builds for the future, and would be the most exciting option. The other most likely option would be Hugh Jackman. It would mostly just be for a big laugh but wouldn't really be setting anything up or a be a big reveal or anything. Gambit seems like the best idea.
I still think they are intent on making this movie. Tatum as almost put his film career on hold for a couple of years now. He could have been in so many large films at this point. I think they are working to get this done. Just my opinion.
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Lets pretend that Gambit movie was never announced and if the film ever start filming it will be a good suprise to us.
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I think that if Tatum and FOX are still fully committed to this film, and there has been no news to the contrary, I think the cameo in Deadpool being Gambit is a super high possibility. It makes the most sense, it builds for the future, and would be the most exciting option. The other most likely option would be Hugh Jackman. It would mostly just be for a big laugh but wouldn't really be setting anything up or a be a big reveal or anything. Gambit seems like the best idea.
I still think they are intent on making this movie. Tatum as almost put his film career on hold for a couple of years now. He could have been in so many large films at this point. I think they are working to get this done. Just my opinion.
I agree about Tatum and everything. But Jackman should never return. Logan was great and it was really good good-bye.
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I think that if Tatum and FOX are still fully committed to this film, and there has been no news to the contrary, I think the cameo in Deadpool being Gambit is a super high possibility. It makes the most sense, it builds for the future, and would be the most exciting option. The other most likely option would be Hugh Jackman. It would mostly just be for a big laugh but wouldn't really be setting anything up or a be a big reveal or anything. Gambit seems like the best idea.
I still think they are intent on making this movie. Tatum as almost put his film career on hold for a couple of years now. He could have been in so many large films at this point. I think they are working to get this done. Just my opinion.
if fox gives a fig about the movie, gambit better be the cameo. Gambit needs help getting anticipation back for a film and to stop being the butt of "yeah right its never gonna happen and nobody wants it " jokes. .....
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Yeah, the more I think about it, the more a Gambit cameo makes sense. What other FOX/Marvel character (besides Jackman's Wolverine) would be worthy of a cameo? It can't be Kitty, because they aren't even close to casting that film (nor do I think that would make any kind of sense). There are comics precedents for DP vs Gambit after all.
Besides, Tatum has mentioned in interviews how the Deadpool film (and Logan) has opened doors for re-writing the Gambit script. So he must be a fan of DP...
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At this point, I'm less anticipating Tatum's movie and leaning more on "we'll get Tatum's Gambit movie or we'll either see him in a Disney reboot or Fox sequel, (even if it's not Tatum)" With Tatum's age I think it'd be best to not have him as part of team movie. A solo thats not centered around his origin would be best, as I wouldnt mind a movie with a more seasoned Gambit. One thats fully realized and matured. Less chance of him getting chumped, and more for him kicking butt.
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Pretty interesting article on the topic of why the cameo should be Gambit: https://www.wblzmedia.com/2018/03/28/deadpool-2-gambit-needs-make-cameo-film/
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Good find bark_no_byte. And a very good article. That's exactly why the cameo in Deadpool 2 should be Gambit. It easily makes the most sense all around. A Hugh Jackman cameo would be really annoying for me at this point and would only serve as a quick laugh. Leave it alone now. A Gambit cameo could create some much needed excitement for a Gambit movie as well as foreshadow his possible inclusion into an X-Force movie. And getting Ryan Reynolds' Deadpool and Channing Tatum's Gambit on screen at the same time is a total win and could get people excited for more of them.
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Great! Positive stuff for once.
Too bad its not in a more well known blog:( :'(
If Gambit is not in deadpool, not a good sign for the movie G- movie imo. But, we will know soon enough.
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If Gambit winds up not being the cameo, I don't necessarily think it's not a good sign for the gambit movie. But if they have a decent costume made up for hhim and tatum is in good enough shape to pull off the look right now, it should definitely be FOX's first priority to use him for the cameo. But like I said, I wouldn't be shocked if FOX just couldn't resist using Hugh Jackman one last time. They just can't resist.
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If Gambit winds up not being the cameo, I don't necessarily think it's not a good sign for the gambit movie. But if they have a decent costume made up for hhim and tatum is in good enough shape to pull off the look right now, it should definitely be FOX's first priority to use him for the cameo. But like I said, I wouldn't be shocked if FOX just couldn't resist using Hugh Jackman one last time. They just can't resist.
Exactly. This is Deadpool we're talking about. If it's not Gambit in the cameo, then it wouldn't be the end of the world. It could just be a throwaway gag like a Cyclops cameo to make a joke about him being Cable's dad. But it would be just that - a throwaway. Not using it as an opportunity to excite people about a Gambit movie would be a waste (although Fox has done dumber things in the past)
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Has anyone seen Tatum in public recently? Last time I saw him a few weeks ago, he looked like he was growing his hair out again and had lost about 10 to 15 pounds. His face had slimmed down noticeably.
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Has anyone seen Tatum in public recently? Last time I saw him a few weeks ago, he looked like he was growing his hair out again and had lost about 10 to 15 pounds. His face had slimmed down noticeably.
Posted a pic of him above at the kids choice awards several days ago. Promoting an animated film coming out in sep.
Honestly, it would be nice to hear something, anything from this guy about Gambits status. ...seems a lot of people on social media now think that gambit will be scrapped because of the release date change for the xmen movies(one being Aug)
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Posted this in CBR in a thread speculating about Coogler directing a Bishop movie.
I always liked the idea of a Gambit and Bishop movie where Gambit is of course a thief and Bishop is a cop hot on his trail. So almost like a mutant Heat with Bishop in the role of the Al Pacino character and Gambit in the role of the DeNiro character with their mutant powers replacing the guns. They make a great duo to play off each other as Gambit charges kinetic energy while Bishop absorbs it and Gambit is a thief while Bishop is a cop. It also makes for a great conflict because depending on your view, some will find Gambit the antagonist and Bishop the protagonist while others will consider it the reverse so the audience would have to choose sides as it is not a hero vs villain conflict but a hero vs anti-hero conflict. So the first movie sort of is set up as a standard thief vs cop battle but then sets up the sequel where we learn that Bishop is in fact from a future where the X-men are dead and he was raised by a guy calling himself the Witness who of course is none other than Gambit. So he in fact has gone back in time to try and stop Gambit from betraying the X-men as he thinks the Witness was the reason for the X-men's downfall. I always thought the nature of their relationship in the future and the present was one of the great missed opportunities by Marvel as the Bishop and Gambit comic didn't quite do it justice.That would be close enough to the original comic storyline where he thought Gambit was a traitor and make a lot more sense than him coming back in time to kill a baby. Instead, Gambit would essentially replace Hope as Bishop's obsession until Bishop ends up tracking him to the X-men with Bishop and Gambit eventually teaming up to uncover the real traitor.
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June 19th now. Assume director coming soon. http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/gambit/56438/gambit-finally-set-to-start-filming-this-summer (http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/gambit/56438/gambit-finally-set-to-start-filming-this-summer)
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June 19th now. Assume director coming soon. http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/gambit/56438/gambit-finally-set-to-start-filming-this-summer (http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/gambit/56438/gambit-finally-set-to-start-filming-this-summer)
Yes!!! You made my day! Thank you :)
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Posted this in CBR in a thread speculating about Coogler directing a Bishop movie.
I always liked the idea of a Gambit and Bishop movie where Gambit is of course a thief and Bishop is a cop hot on his trail. So almost like a mutant Heat with Bishop in the role of the Al Pacino character and Gambit in the role of the DeNiro character with their mutant powers replacing the guns. They make a great duo to play off each other as Gambit charges kinetic energy while Bishop absorbs it and Gambit is a thief while Bishop is a cop. It also makes for a great conflict because depending on your view, some will find Gambit the antagonist and Bishop the protagonist while others will consider it the reverse so the audience would have to choose sides as it is not a hero vs villain conflict but a hero vs anti-hero conflict.So the first movie sort of is set up as a standard thief vs cop battle but then sets up the sequel where we learn that Bishop is in fact from a future where the X-men are dead and he was raised by a guy calling himself the Witness who of course is none other than Gambit. So he in fact has gone back in time to try and stop Gambit from betraying the X-men as he thinks the Witness was the reason for the X-men's downfall.I always thought the nature of their relationship in the future and the present was one of the great missed opportunities by Marvel as the Bishop and Gambit comic didn't quite do it justice.That would be close enough to the original comic storyline where he thought Gambit was a traitor and make a lot more sense than him coming back in time to kill a baby. Instead, Gambit would essentially replace Hope as Bishop's obsession until Bishop ends up tracking him to the X-men with Bishop and Gambit eventually teaming up to uncover the real traitor.
It would be a fine mini. Much better then Sons of Atom.
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Posted this in CBR in a thread speculating about Coogler directing a Bishop movie.
I always liked the idea of a Gambit and Bishop movie where Gambit is of course a thief and Bishop is a cop hot on his trail. So almost like a mutant Heat with Bishop in the role of the Al Pacino character and Gambit in the role of the DeNiro character with their mutant powers replacing the guns. They make a great duo to play off each other as Gambit charges kinetic energy while Bishop absorbs it and Gambit is a thief while Bishop is a cop. It also makes for a great conflict because depending on your view, some will find Gambit the antagonist and Bishop the protagonist while others will consider it the reverse so the audience would have to choose sides as it is not a hero vs villain conflict but a hero vs anti-hero conflict.So the first movie sort of is set up as a standard thief vs cop battle but then sets up the sequel where we learn that Bishop is in fact from a future where the X-men are dead and he was raised by a guy calling himself the Witness who of course is none other than Gambit. So he in fact has gone back in time to try and stop Gambit from betraying the X-men as he thinks the Witness was the reason for the X-men's downfall.I always thought the nature of their relationship in the future and the present was one of the great missed opportunities by Marvel as the Bishop and Gambit comic didn't quite do it justice.That would be close enough to the original comic storyline where he thought Gambit was a traitor and make a lot more sense than him coming back in time to kill a baby. Instead, Gambit would essentially replace Hope as Bishop's obsession until Bishop ends up tracking him to the X-men with Bishop and Gambit eventually teaming up to uncover the real traitor.
That sounds amazing. Bishop is another who's been a favorite of mine since I was a kid
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Yes!!! You made my day! Thank you :)
welcome😉 I'm gonna assume/ hope they have a director if they have another start date.
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It would be a fine mini. Much better then Sons of Atom.
I'm thinking more in the the film. Like Bishop might be the cop that uncovers the existence of the Thieves and Assassin's Guild. At first we think it is just because he's a cop working in say the organized crime division but later we find out it's because he is looking for Gambit in particular.
So he would in essence be a mini Antagonist always there, always hunting for Gambit while there is also a main antagonist that is more your classic villain such as Sinister. You could run that thread through several movies with the two always ending up as uneasy allies to face off against a greater evil.
Then later on you can get into the future stuff with Bishop being raised by Witness Gambit. There is really a lot you could explore in the movies between Gambit and Bishop.
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I could dig this idea. Probably wouldn't be the best way to introduce both characters. Perhaps have this follow up a X-Men film where Gambit is used, or even the Gambit solo. Might be a dope sequel. I like it. I think I'd like it if Bishop wasn't totally wrong about Gambit and it forces Gambit to face a mistake he's about the make, that it creates the future Bishop is trying to stop him from causing. Make when they have that "undressing" moment comes and they're able to talk without trying to kill or run from one another, it's emotional. Then both work together to solve the problem.
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Was hoping against hope for soderbergh, but he says he's directing a film that costs under 2 mill next😫
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Was hoping against hope for soderbergh, but he says he's directing a film that costs under 2 mill next😫
Soderbergh would've been cool, but I honestly don't really care who it is at this point as long as the person knows how to make a good movie.
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Soderbergh would've been cool, but I honestly don't really care who it is at this point as long as the person knows how to make a good movie.
true, because this needs to get going before the rights switch over to Disney
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Was hoping against hope for soderbergh, but he says he's directing a film that costs under 2 mill next😫
Well that just means it wont take long. It'll spend most of it's time in editing room and then be shopped around to festivals. Doesn't take him off the table.
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Man, these people just don't let up . https://www.obsev.com/entertainment/why-is-fox-still-trying-to-make-the-channing-tatum-gambit-movie-happen.html
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What a trash article. One of the worst I've read. I'm not going to bother and waste my time counter pointing the nonsense in that article. I'll just say, watch what happens if Gambit has a cameo in Deadpool 2 that is even decent. A lot of these idiots will start changing their tune and claiming that they thought the Gambit movie was a good idea all along.
Love to hear a confirmed filming for june 19 and the release date unchanged. I do feel they are still treating Gambit as a major priority.
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Man, these people just don't let up . https://www.obsev.com/entertainment/why-is-fox-still-trying-to-make-the-channing-tatum-gambit-movie-happen.html (https://www.obsev.com/entertainment/why-is-fox-still-trying-to-make-the-channing-tatum-gambit-movie-happen.html)
Not even gonna give it a click. There's no point
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Not even gonna give it a click. There's no point
I agree. No clicks for trash articles from haters.
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Nice to see an article FINALLY mention this about the similarites to deadpool.
"Channing Tatum has been channeling Ryan Reynolds in that he's been trying, and failing, to get this movie off of the ground for years..."
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/03/29/rumor-gambit-start-date-no-director-yet/ (https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/03/29/rumor-gambit-start-date-no-director-yet/)
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Well that just means it wont take long. It'll spend most of it's time in editing room and then be shopped around to festivals. Doesn't take him off the table.
True....
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If the filming date holds true, I think it means we can expect something at the sdcc this year. Which would be great.
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If the filming date holds true, I think it means we can expect something at the sdcc this year. Which would be great.
I could definitely see that. Maybe a peak at the costume and more casting
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If the filming date holds true, I think it means we can expect something at the sdcc this year. Which would be great.
Too much to hope for but I would love it!
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Jon Hamm debuted a cameo in new mutants as Mr sinister...but was cut from the film. Think he is still going to be in gambit? http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/03/30/new-mutants-jon-hamm-mr-sinister-post-credits-scene/ (http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/03/30/new-mutants-jon-hamm-mr-sinister-post-credits-scene/)
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Jon Hamm debuted a cameo in new mutants as Mr sinister...but was cut from the film. Think he is still going to be in gambit? http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/03/30/new-mutants-jon-hamm-mr-sinister-post-credits-scene/ (http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/03/30/new-mutants-jon-hamm-mr-sinister-post-credits-scene/)
Oh wow. I love Jon Hamm. It'd be awesome to see him as Sinister in Gambit
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...that might have made me a little bit interested in the New Mutants movie...
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...apparently he's being replaced by Antonio Banderas in mutants. But its unknown what villain he is playing
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...apparently he's being replaced by Antonio Banderas in mutants. But its unknown what villain he is playing
I wonder if Banderas is going to play Emmanuel Da Costa. I know he's supposed to be Afro-Brazilian, but the guy playing Roberto doesn't exactly look like he has any African heritage. So I could see them as father/son. Plus, I thought I heard that if there was to be a sequel, it would take place in Brazil (but that might just be my sleep-deprived brain mis-remembering)
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Banderas would be a cool Vargas.
I stull hope that Sinister will be introduced in Gambit and then Gambut will join X-Force to fight Sinister as big bad.
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I would love Jon Hamm as Sinister. Now I'm upset because I want this to happen.
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Fox doesn't seem to know how to do anything but waste good ideas for xmen movies.
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I think FOX knoows what they are doing.
Earlier NM were planned to be realesed before Gambit.
Now Gambit is earlier. So no reason to introduce Sinister in post credit cenes in NM if he would be a villain in Gambit.
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Oh wow. I love Jon Hamm. It'd be awesome to see him as Sinister in Gambit
we'll see if sinister is even in the new script
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Personally, I think Gambit has always been a bigger priority than new mutants and believe they wouldn't hesitate to pull a sinister cameo out of new mutants in favor of using him effectively in Gambit. I think them pushing new mutants past Gambit speaks volumes.
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Personally, I think Gambit has always been a bigger priority than new mutants and believe they wouldn't hesitate to pull a sinister cameo out of new mutants in favor of using him effectively in Gambit. I think them pushing new mutants past Gambit speaks volumes.
I have the same feeling.
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Personally, I think Gambit has always been a bigger priority than new mutants and believe they wouldn't hesitate to pull a sinister cameo out of new mutants in favor of using him effectively in Gambit. I think them pushing new mutants past Gambit speaks volumes.
that's a great way to look at it. I wonder if hamm will keep the role or it will be recast.
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that's a great way to look at it. I wonder if hamm will keep the role or it will be recast.
That's a great question. I actually didn't know about Jon Hamm appearing as Sinister in new mutants. Makes me very curious if his scene being cut will transfer into him being in Gambit.
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Is that Hamm thing true? I didn't know that was official either. But I love it.
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I think it's still speculation/inside sources. But I suppose if it was true and it was setting up the Gambit movie, they would keep him. Because why would you get jon ham for a bit cameo that wasn't setting up a part in another movie? And if the bit cameo was cut, why wouldn't you keep him in the bigger movie? Of course all of these things are big 'if's' lol
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I love me some Jon Hamm but I really can't seem him as Sinister. Would still be excited if he actually is cast tho.
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Because my child brain is stuck on TAS Sinister, I really wanted to see Brian Cranston play Sinister. But Hamm has the physical "better than thou" presence I would have appreciated.
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Lol, I completely agree. I still want Cranston, but ham would be good.
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Kinda OT...but was sad to see CT and his wife's seperation announcement.
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Perhaps the grief of his marriage falling apart will make him throw himself into his work which could result to the Gambit project getting fast tracked...
Does no one else want remydat to flesh out his Gambit V Bishop/ Heat idea? I think it'd make a dope sequel that acts as a bridge between X-Men movies like Cap America Civil War is to Avengers 3. Such as;
X-Men
Gambit
X-Men: Whatever sounds dramatic
Gambit: Sons of the Atom (remydat's Gambit V Bishop/ Heat flick aka X-Men 2.5)
X-Men: ... (the real villain of 2nd Gambit carries over)
It'd ensure we'd get an X-Men movie every year, or at least every other year instead of every 2. Kinda of how they are doing with Star Wars, right now.
Is it weird that I think I'd want to see Jamie Foxx play Bishop? I know, weird age to start a role, but I think like Cable, Bishop should be like the old, emotionally weathered, headstrong, stubborn, peacekeeping sheriff thats out to accomplish task and nothing else. Like let's say in Bishop's future he grew up and reluctantly became the man that enforced order for an underground community of mutants, not dissimilar from the Morlocks. When he's given a chance to go back in time and change his future by taking out one low-life that gets by by stealing from others (lets make that a pet peeve), he accepts and thus starts his manhunt and subsequent 2 acts of cat& mouse... Just my insight.
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Kinda OT...but was sad to see CT and his wife's seperation announcement.
It is sad but sometimes it is really better to go in separate ways and stay as friends.
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Perhaps the grief of his marriage falling apart will make him throw himself into his work which could result to the Gambit project getting fast tracked...
Does no one else want remydat to flesh out his Gambit V Bishop/ Heat idea? I think it'd make a dope sequel that acts as a bridge between X-Men movies like Cap America Civil War is to Avengers 3. Such as;
X-Men
Gambit
X-Men: Whatever sounds dramatic
Gambit: Sons of the Atom (remydat's Gambit V Bishop/ Heat flick aka X-Men 2.5)
X-Men: ... (the real villain of 2nd Gambit carries over)
It'd ensure we'd get an X-Men movie every year, or at least every other year instead of every 2. Kinda of how they are doing with Star Wars, right now.
Is it weird that I think I'd want to see Jamie Foxx play Bishop? I know, weird age to start a role, but I think like Cable, Bishop should be like the old, emotionally weathered, headstrong, stubborn, peacekeeping sheriff thats out to accomplish task and nothing else. Like let's say in Bishop's future he grew up and reluctantly became the man that enforced order for an underground community of mutants, not dissimilar from the Morlocks. When he's given a chance to go back in time and change his future by taking out one low-life that gets by by stealing from others (lets make that a pet peeve), he accepts and thus starts his manhunt and subsequent 2 acts of cat& mouse... Just my insight.
Thanks for supporting my Gambit vs Bishop idea. Just seems like a natural fit for a movie. Foxx as Bishop would be interesting as I can see him and Tatum having good chemistry. Not sure though if Foxx can rock dreds, lol.
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If I may be so bold... I'd like to offer an example of an exchange...
This is the third confrontation between the two men. Gambit thought he lost Bishop after their last run-in and continued to meet up with his buyers at the docks. Just as he is about to make the exchange, an explosion rips up the space between them as Bishop crashes through a nearby window. Any of the men Gambit was meeting that aren’t floored are running for the exit. Gambit regains his senses and dashes for cover before Bishop’s bullets and blasts find their mark. Gambit takes cover behind a row of crates, his back to them. Bishop does the same on the opposite side as they begin their first official exchange for the movie;
Gambit [Tatum]: Hey uh…-
Bishop [Foxx] (interrupts as he loads his obnoxiously large weapon): Let me guess; it wasn’t me, you got the wrong guy; I didn’t do it; let’s make a deal… I’ve heard it all before, man. People like you never change. Always out for themselves. Don’t matter who you cross, as long as you get yours. Rich, poor, good, bad, old, young, guilty… innocent [lingers on this word]. Nah, you don’t know me. You don’t owe me a damn thing…
Gambit: Homes, seriously [exasperated expression]… who the hell are you?!
Bishop: Who, me..? [Bishop silently made his way over the isle and is standing directly over Gambit, roughly 20 feet above him with his guns trained down.]
Bishop: For you, I’m the end of line… homes.
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Lol, that is pretty good man and precisely how I would expect things to play out. Bishop being overly melodramatic and Gambit just like, "Dude you need to calm the f down, it ain't that serious."
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Lol, that is pretty good man and precisely how I would expect things to play out. Bishop being overly melodramatic and Gambit just like, "Dude you need to calm the f down, it ain't that serious."
And the more Gambit tries to diffuse and explain, the more Bishop gets pissed. Because, much like Bishop in the comics and Cable in TAS, he thinks he knows the truth. Nothing Gambit says is going to mean anything. Where he's from, people suffer day-in and day-out. Either live in a whole shared by dozens or hundreds, or die slow death in a mutant camp. Best case scenario, a clean, quick death at the hands of a Sentinel. He's known Gambit as "the Witness" (leader of a group that's somehow in league with whatever governing body that's making life hell for mutants and the poor in his timeline) his entire life. Hated him from afar. Bishop has been shown proof that taking Gambit out in this decade or year will change his world. Stop the suffering, or simply a mishap that's shaped his life (let's say his sister Shard was killed when they were young) and the world itself. Bishop isn't a goon or villain. He's a soldier, good man that's been broken down from years of watching the people around him live in squalor, back stab friends just for scraps to be able to live another day. He's hardened and determined. All he has to do is take out some thieving punk, he's detested his whole to save millions from that? Well, "That's all day, bruh."
Of course there's a puppetmaster pulling the strings. Probably doesn't care too much about Gambit or Bishop at all. But the action, diversion or simply the action of traveling back in time is for a greater purpose. Perhaps time-travel tech from that era was nearly impossible, unless the person traveling were able to survive the journey. Maybe it create a rift and someone piggybacked for the ride. Maybe Gambit was supposed to deliver something, or do something that triggers an event that someone wanted avoided? I like this idea. The tone, intrigue and action of a 90s crime/drama wrapped in sci-fi premise with super powers. I'd be so down for this.
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This pic from comic con seems like a million years ago😫https://goo.gl/images/ZhFRVZ (https://goo.gl/images/ZhFRVZ)
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This pic from comic con seems like a million years ago😫https://goo.gl/images/ZhFRVZ (https://goo.gl/images/ZhFRVZ)
It is almost 2 months till start of shooting. I hope for real news in next 2 weeks
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Not exactly movie news persay going forward but .... I found this interesting. I can agree with a lot of what was opined in this article.
https://decider.com/2018/04/08/taylor-kitsch-gambit-x-men-origins-wolverine/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=DeciderTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow
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I agree...but if I had a dollar for every time I saw the phrase "pickup artist" in reference to Remy, I'd be rich. SMH
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The only problem I had with Kitsch as Gambit was that he had a bit of trouble maintaining the accent. Otherwise, I thought he did a good job and it's a shame he didn't have the chance to have another shot at it (i.e. in a better movie).
I got to admit, that last comment comparing Tatum to Kitsch made me laugh...
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My issues with TK .. he didn't really use a Cajun accent(_it was a basic southern accent) nor did he dress like gambit. What was,with the hat? Also, gambit can't do that matrix thing with cards lol
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Finally a positive comment about someone wanting and talking about a,gambit movie. https://youtu.be/LiBSVmcYmHA
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It has a wrap date ..Sep 29 https://omegaunderground.com/2018/04/13/update-channing-tatums-gambit-movie-has-a-wrap-date/ (https://omegaunderground.com/2018/04/13/update-channing-tatums-gambit-movie-has-a-wrap-date/)
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It has a wrap date ..Sep 29 https://omegaunderground.com/2018/04/13/update-channing-tatums-gambit-movie-has-a-wrap-date/ (https://omegaunderground.com/2018/04/13/update-channing-tatums-gambit-movie-has-a-wrap-date/)
Nice! Now give us a director haha
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Nice! Now give us a director haha
....and a actual cast. Guessing the film is smaller now with a little over 3 month shoot
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....and a actual cast. Guessing the film is smaller now with a little over 3 month shoot
Oh shoot, yeah. I didn't even think about that
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Oh shoot, yeah. I didn't even think about that
yup..3 months is no big budget film. Maybe going back to deadpool/Logan budget type numbers.
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yup..3 months is no big budget film. Maybe going back to deadpool/Logan budget type numbers.
Which kinda makes sense. I didn't really think the movie would get a huge budget. Hopefully they'll have a director who can work with a smaller budget if needed
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Which kinda makes sense. I didn't really think the movie would get a huge budget. Hopefully they'll have a director who can work with a smaller budget if needed
if they have a shooting schedule they must have a director already. Darn Soderbergh is out ..hes onto another project😞
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If these dates are true, then they'd have to have a director. Soderberg would have been interesting director and I don't know enough about directors to have an opinion past that...
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-Guess who is going to be in Louisiana over the summer shooting PALE BLUE DOT while GAMBIT films in NOLA? Hmm... very sinister....
(Jon Hamm)
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-@_ChristopherM
-Guess who is going to be in Louisiana over the summer shooting PALE BLUE DOT while GAMBIT films in NOLA? Hmm... very sinister....
(Jon Hamm)
Oh man, this makes me so excited! ;D Sinister is one of my favorite villains of all time and the idea of Jon Hamm playing him is soooo tantalizing.
Also, way to stay on top of all this news, Pane!
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Oh man, this makes me so excited! ;D Sinister is one of my favorite villains of all time and the idea of Jon Hamm playing him is soooo tantalizing.
Also, way to stay on top of all this news, Pane!
my pleasure😀!
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Hopefully it's true and not just a coincidence
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Call me the eternal pessimist, but I’ll believe it when I see it....
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Call me the eternal pessimist, but I’ll believe it when I see it....
I just find it odd that a wrap up date was announced prior to other important things that need to be done before that happens.. Is that normal?
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I just find it odd that a wrap up date was announced prior to other important things that need to be done before that happens.. Is that normal?
nothing about the way this is going is normal lol. I proceed with caution as well. Until.we get a director...at least a few more cast members , this still has a 50/50 shot.
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Hmmmm? Dark Phoenix is the last? Did they forget about gambit? http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/04/19/x-men-dark-phoenix-final-fox-marvel-movie-mcu/ (http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/04/19/x-men-dark-phoenix-final-fox-marvel-movie-mcu/)
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Hmmmm? Phonies is the last? Did they forget about gambit? http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/04/19/x-men-dark-phoenix-final-fox-marvel-movie-mcu/ (http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/04/19/x-men-dark-phoenix-final-fox-marvel-movie-mcu/)
Hmm. That's interesting considering the news about when they're wrapping production. If true, I wonder if this means Tatum's Gambit would be incorporated into the MCU. Personally, I hope not.
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Hmm. That's interesting considering the news about when they're wrapping production. If true, I wonder if this means Tatum's Gambit would be incorporated into the MCU. Personally, I hope not.
or he simply didn't mention it because he does not think it will be made
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It says last main x-men movie.
Guy from Omega Underground says that Gambit and X-Force are still planned.
Also New Mutants will be released after Phoenix.
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It says last main x-men movie.
Guy from Omega Underground says that Gambit and X-Force are still planned.
Also New Mutants will be released after Phoenix.
problem is people reading that article are now assuming gambit is dead. Why on earth Tatum or the other producers or fox does not give us the status on this movie...I have no clue
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@shawnxmadden
Dead wrong. They are currently gearing up for both Gambit & X-Force. Disney/Marvel isn't allowed to touch anything until deal is finalized.
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@shawnxmadden
Dead wrong. They are currently gearing up for both Gambit & X-Force. Disney/Marvel isn't allowed to touch anything until deal is finalized.
Don`t trust that guy but I think he is right that time.
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What's his 'track record' on these types of things?
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What's his 'track record' on these types of things?
I think he has no real insider infor and just read other sites like Omega Underground.
I remeber when he told he heard that Gambit got new director. I think it was after Liman departure but ater that there were no new real news ar announcemets for moths.
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trust me when i say its happening, never mind these other sites
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I do believe they all want this movie to happen. I would just really love an announcement to get us all confident in this again. If Gambit cameos in Deadpool, that will go a long way.
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I agree that it is happening.
Deadpool 2 seems to be awesome. Would be cool if secret cameo is Gambit
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I agree that it is happening.
Deadpool 2 seems to be awesome. Would be cool if secret cameo is Gambit
I think Gambit might make a cameo during audition scene for X-Force or he might be in the mutant prison.
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I liked the idea of cameo, but I'm finding it increasing less likely since the movie's in limbo again
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I think Gambit might make a cameo during audition scene for X-Force or he might be in the mutant prison.
Audition is more likely because it got only 2 hours to shoot cameo.
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I don't know ..I guess all the delays has jaded me. I would be very surprised if they got it together enough to have gambit be in NM or deadpool. I hope I'm proven wrong.
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I know exactly how you feel...
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I don't know ..I guess all the delays has jaded me. I would be very surprised if they got it together enough to have gambit be in NM or deadpool. I hope I'm proven wrong.
It's just weird. From an outsider POV, it seems like no one at Fox cares about the movie other than Tatum, and I'm not surprised he hasn't been talking about the movie since he just separated from his wife.
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It's just weird. From an outsider POV, it seems like no one at Fox cares about the movie other than Tatum, and I'm not surprised he hasn't been talking about the movie since he just separated from his wife.
I think the last time he actually was publically asked about gambit was back in aug 2017 in a couple interviews for lucky Logan. Basically saying "its coming along". What irks with all the constant talk about this project being dead at certain points ..or in trouble . Not one word. Tweet or anything from CM or anyone having to do with this film that its ok
.still going ahead etc. Its irritating AF.
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Tatum hair is still long so don't worry. It is happening.
Also Feige told that FOX characters won't appear in MCU probably till feith 5.
Everything is gonna be good with Gambit movie.
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Tatum hair is still long so don't worry. It is happening.
Also Feige told that FOX characters won't appear in MCU probably till feith 5.
Everything is gonna be good with Gambit movie.
My point isn't whether the movie is happening or not (that's a whole other discussion). It's that there has been little to no communication from those involved to help build some anticipation/good will with the fans. The most we hear about the movie is some place like CBR telling us why a Gambit movie is a bad idea.
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My point isn't whether the movie is happening or not (that's a whole other discussion). It's that there has been little to no communication from those involved to help build some anticipation/good will with the fans. The most we hear about the movie is some place like CBR telling us why a Gambit movie is a bad idea.
Don't worry about such thing. Good trailer and marketing will change anything.
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My point isn't whether the movie is happening or not (that's a whole other discussion). It's that there has been little to no communication from those involved to help build some anticipation/good will with the fans. The most we hear about the movie is some place like CBR telling us why a Gambit movie is a bad idea.
the marketing and hype needs to start now lol
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I do agree that marketing and teasers and what not will go a long way to turn people's negative opinion around. Even though I think it's been so long now that some will never be turned (until they see a good movie). But the time to start the positive campaign for this movie is just about here and we need some news, some interviews, some casting, some leaks from the set where they are shooting etc. This movie really can't afford another set back. It's time to get this thing rolling and make a movie. Can't keep tweaking it for ever. Got to have a little faith and just go for it now.
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*sees there's a bunch of new posts in this thread, gets excited*
*reads posts*
I love y'all but SHAME ON ALL OF YOU.
Anyway, I don't think anything is happening with this. I'll believe it when I see it from more sources than this Omega Underground.
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*sees there's a bunch of new posts in this thread, gets excited*
*reads posts*
I love y'all but SHAME ON ALL OF YOU.
Anyway, I don't think anything is happening with this. I'll believe it when I see it from more sources than this Omega Underground.
yeah, thats the issue, The last official info we have had is that GV left the project and Lizza Kaplan was negotiating to be in it,,that was months ago,, Zero info since then... the rest is Christopher M at OU. Who knows if that start date and wrap date are even true.
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Pics of him promoting Yeti tonight in LV..the only film he has coming out.
?tagged=channingtatum
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bh-SPrPggE0/?tagged=channingtatum
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the marketing and hype needs to start now lol
They need to start production and make a good movie. Marketing should be later :)
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His face is slimmer and his neck looks stronger than I remember it being. That's a good thing... but he's also single now, so he may be shredding due to being back on the proverbial market.
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Somebody asked this journalist about Gambit, an apperentley Fox is having at presentation about marvel films at this con in vegas...
@laurencox
hoping to get an update on that(Gambit) on Thursday during the FOX presentation! fingers crossed!
soooo, well see if its even mentioned.
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Well that's something. I mean they have to give us some information at some point soon.
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His face is slimmer and his neck looks stronger than I remember it being. That's a good thing... but he's also single now, so he may be shredding due to being back on the proverbial market.
he's definitely way thinner than he was when he hosted Kimmel. But hes sure not buff anymore.
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Somebody asked this journalist about Gambit, an apperentley Fox is having at presentation about marvel films at this con in vegas...
@laurencox
hoping to get an update on that(Gambit) on Thursday during the FOX presentation! fingers crossed!
soooo, well see if its even mentioned.
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Hope for the best!
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Shockingly
@Iaurencox
3m
Nothing on #Gambit. Lame. .
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@laurencox was not even mentoned when 2019 screen titles were slashed, Bummer.
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Shockingly
@Iaurencox
3m
Nothing on #Gambit. Lame. .
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@laurencox -wasn’t even mentioned when they flashed 2019 titles on the screen at the end. huge bummer.-
Ugh. I take it this was tweeted after the Fox presentation she mentioned a couple days ago?
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Ugh. I take it this was tweeted after the Fox presentation she mentioned a couple days ago?
yup...the presentation just got over with.- honestly only if/when this movie has a director does it have any chance. ...and fox or CT are not going out of their way to talk.about it lol
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Wow, this is really lame.
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Unless they found a director there's not much else to say. I have no idea why they announced a wrap up date already. Best not to expect to hear anything until a director is hired.
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Unless they found a director there's not much else to say. I have no idea why they announced a wrap up date already. Best not to expect to hear anything until a director is hired.
a wrap date or start date was not really "announced" though. It was reported by one the comic book blogs that gets a lot of its info from tips. Which is were most of the little info on this film comes from lol
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X-Force wasn't announced either.
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X-Force wasn't announced either.
true..but x force has some things gambit dosent right now. A director and a cast😀
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This isn't news about Tatum's movie, but still thought it was interesting and at least tangentially related. Apparently, Josh Holloway was going to be Gambit in Origins before he was replaced: http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/x-men/news/a855985/josh-holloway-gambit-x-men-origins-wolverine/
Holloway and Jackman together sounds amazing. I'd be interested to hear his Cajun accent, though, since he says he can't do one well
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This isn't news about Tatum's movie, but still thought it was interesting and at least tangentially related. Apparently, Josh Holloway was going to be Gambit in Origins before he was replaced: http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/x-men/news/a855985/josh-holloway-gambit-x-men-origins-wolverine/ (http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/x-men/news/a855985/josh-holloway-gambit-x-men-origins-wolverine/)
Holloway and Jackman together sounds amazing. I'd be interested to hear his Cajun accent, though, since he says he can't do one well
he's definitely more physically like I imagined for gambit much more than CT. Tatum has sure not done any favors to the characters movie up to now.
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he's definitely more physically like I imagined for gambit much more than CT. Tatum has sure not done any favors to the characters movie up to now.
Same here. He could've tweaked his character from LOST a bit and he would've done pretty well imo
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This isn't news about Tatum's movie, but still thought it was interesting and at least tangentially related. Apparently, Josh Holloway was going to be Gambit in Origins before he was replaced: http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/x-men/news/a855985/josh-holloway-gambit-x-men-origins-wolverine/ (http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/x-men/news/a855985/josh-holloway-gambit-x-men-origins-wolverine/)
Holloway and Jackman together sounds amazing. I'd be interested to hear his Cajun accent, though, since he says he can't do one well
Well that's disappointing lol, he was always my #1 choice. I honestly just consider his Lost character as Remy Lebeau.
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I'd heard the one where he was going to be Gambit in X3, but it was a small part that ended up cut. But this is a new one, I also heard that Tatum was in the running for origins too but had a conflict.
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I'd heard the one where he was going to be Gambit in X3, but it was a small part that ended up cut. But this is a new one, I also heard that Tatum was in the running for origins too but had a conflict.
I've heard that too about Tatum. I think it was for GI Joe, but he was in a couple movies that year, so he was probably pretty busy in general
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I'd heard the one where he was going to be Gambit in X3, but it was a small part that ended up cut. But this is a new one, I also heard that Tatum was in the running for origins too but had a conflict.
yes..read an interview where the producer said gambit was to similar to wolverine..so he was cut.
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yes..read an interview where the producer said gambit was to similar to wolverine..so he was cut.
Makes sense. Fox couldn't let their golden boy Wolverine be out of the spotlight for a second.
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Makes sense. Fox couldn't let their golden boy Wolverine be out of the spotlight for a second.
indeed..in fact expecting that cameo in deadpool to be wolverine lol
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indeed..in fact expecting that cameo in deadpool to be wolverine lol
It would be a stupid move from Jackman.
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But it would be 'funny' which is all that really matters to the Deadpool movie.
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So, coming into may 2017 now..do you all think this movie will get made or not? Do you still even want CTs version. Of Gambit made..or is it time to move on? Opinions?
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So, coming into may 2017 now..do you all think this movie will get made or not? Do you still even want CTs version. Of Gambit made..or is it time to move on? Opinions?
I'm more optimistic about Gambit's status in the comics, he's popping up in more books and written well in SOME of them.
However in movies...not so much, I used to be positive about Gambit's chances of being in X-Men 2 (they said he'll be in)...but then that didn't happen, then they said he'd be in X-Men 3...and that didn't happen either. Then they did about 4 more X-Men movies, and guess what? No Gambit. So yeah...and honestly this Gambit movie roller coaster reminds me of the same crap. At first I was excited, and here we are 4 years later...and I've lost interest...it might still happen, but I'm not holding my breath.
Personally, he should've been developed in an X-Men film as a shady/mysterious character rather than throwing him into a solo, but then again, the writers never wanted to use him and came up with dumb excuses of him being similar to Wolverine etc etc. Which is a load of crap, because you look at Infinity War and all I see are similar characters all in the same film ...and that didn't stop it from smashing records in the Box Office. In other words, Fox are idiots and they still don't value/understand Gambit's character...(or Cyclops or Rogue or Storm or anyone else that isn't Wolverine).
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Personally, he should've been developed in an X-Men film as a shady/mysterious character rather than throwing him into a solo, but then again, the writers never wanted to use him and came up with dumb excuses of him being similar to Wolverine etc etc.
Didn't Tatum also say he didn't want Gambit's debut to be in a team movie? That's another reason they're doing a solo.
Personally, I'd be happy if the Gambit movie was made, but I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't. At this point, I'm just getting more and more excited for the MCU takeover (even if the X-Men won't be in it for a couple years)
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Didn't Tatum also say he didn't want Gambit's debut to be in a team movie? That's another reason they're doing a solo.
weird..to me it would have been an obvious and good way to see if there was audience for gambit. I think they should have already done it by now. But..we are where we are. 5 yrs and 3 directors later.
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X-Men Producer Confirms Channing Tatum Gambit Movie Still Alive
https://screenrant.com/x-men-channing-tatum-gambit-movie/
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"...believe it or not, we’re still trying to get Gambit [starring Channing Tatum as the cajun mutant] up and running. The hope is to keep moving forward until we hear otherwise. To me, I have no idea what to expect"
Still trying? This isnt that comforting Kinberg. after 5 yrs he basically saying its a big IF. Wth have they been doing for 5 yrs?
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I guess it's better than...nothing?
I've never heard of this Ben Wheatley guy. It looks like he's directed a shoot-'em-up British action/comedy, so who knows? Maybe he's the one?
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I guess it's better than...nothing?
I've never heard of this Ben Wheatley guy. It looks like he's directed a shoot-'em-up British action/comedy, so who knows? Maybe he's the one?
I have heard of him,,,hes directed some well received small independent films and Capaldi's debit of doctor who
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I guess it's better than...nothing?
I've never heard of this Ben Wheatley guy. It looks like he's directed a shoot-'em-up British action/comedy, so who knows? Maybe he's the one?
I don`t know who Ben Wheatley guy is. At this point I will be happy with anyone. Just give me a good Gambit movie.
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I guess it's better than...nothing?
I've never heard of this Ben Wheatley guy. It looks like he's directed a shoot-'em-up British action/comedy, so who knows? Maybe he's the one?
Is there a particular reason why everyone seems to think Wheatley is involved with the Gambit movie? I thought he was just in talks with Marvel, not Fox. If that's the case, wouldn't it be more likely he's working on an MCU movie?
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Using the words "believe it or not" before mentioning the status of the movie ..is not the best promotional tool Mr producer😌lmao.
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Using the words "believe it or not" before mentioning the status of the movie ..is not the best promotional tool Mr producer😌lmao.
Also, it seems like they're acknowledging the fact that a lot of people don't think that this movie is happening.
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Also, it seems like they're acknowledging the fact that a lot of people don't think that this movie is happening.
oh yeah..sadly its a running joke now on social media. Any tidbit of life in the movie. Its the usual "yeah right" . or "gambits dead. Pull the plug already". "No one wants this' ..The film has had so many problems. ..people don't believe it will be made or even succeed. Was rewatching the 2015 San Diego comic con.where Tatum showed up with gambit tee on panel with all the other marvel actors. Good times.
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I have given up on the hope on seeing the movie getting made.
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I have given up on the hope on seeing the movie getting made.
No kidding. I will always hope but I can't do what the rest in this thread are doing ... love you guys/gals for all the passion and faith. :)
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I have given up on the hope on seeing the movie getting made.
ditto..in fact I'd scrap Tatum as Gambit. Recast and maybe have gambit do a cameo in x force....see what kind of reception he gets.
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I don't expect it to be made until the actors are actually on set. Plus I'd be pretty pissed if Tatum is blocking the possibility of Gambit cameoing in the other films. (Still holding out hope he's the surprise character in DP2.)
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Simon says they have a great script and are now looking for a director http://ew.com/movies/deadpool-2-upcoming-x-men-movies/
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Simon says they have a great script and are now looking for a director http://ew.com/movies/deadpool-2-upcoming-x-men-movies/ (http://ew.com/movies/deadpool-2-upcoming-x-men-movies/)
How many times have we heard this and then nothing happens. This is really disappointing. It has been about 5 years and they can't get a movie started.
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How many times have we heard this and then nothing happens. This is really disappointing. It has been about 5 years and they can't get a movie started.
Pretty much. It's cool they have a script, but I kinda figured they would want to get the director first. I wonder who they've been talking to
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script, crew just waiting on a director
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I have given up on the hope on seeing the movie getting made.
Don`t give up, my friend! I am on hype train till the end ;)
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Simon says they have a great script and are now looking for a director http://ew.com/movies/deadpool-2-upcoming-x-men-movies/ (http://ew.com/movies/deadpool-2-upcoming-x-men-movies/)
Good! Hope for announcement soon.
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Don`t give up, my friend! I am on hype train till the end ;)
Call me an optimist, but I haven't lost hope either!
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Call me an optimist, but I haven't lost hope either!
(https://i.imgur.com/QQHcww2.gif)
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script, crew just waiting on a director
...and an actual cast lol
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How many times have we heard this and then nothing happens. This is really disappointing. It has been about 5 years and they can't get a movie started.
yes..the "great script" part sounds familiar. We have heard it several times over the last several.yrs.....and they need a director that won't bail lol
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Don`t give up, my friend! I am on hype train till the end ;)
I admire your hope and passion for the movie. But when the producers of the movie are not sure when they can get the movie started it shows they have very less motivation to get the movie started.
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I admire your hope and passion for the movie. But when the producers of the movie are not sure when they can get the movie started it shows they have very less motivation to get the movie started.
And to add to this, I don't want them to make it if it's going to be a half-assed mess. I'd rather have no movie at all than another movie like Origins
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Kudos to this tweet :) :)
@sydneybaretts
NO ONE CARES IF YOU “DON’T CARE” ABOUT THE GAMBIT MOVIE. IF YOU DON’T CARE WHY ARE YOU ANNOUNCING IT EVERY TIME GAMBIT NEWS HAPPENS. SHUT UP.
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Kudos to this tweet :) :)
@sydneybaretts
NO ONE CARES IF YOU “DON’T CARE” ABOUT THE GAMBIT MOVIE. IF YOU DON’T CARE WHY ARE YOU ANNOUNCING IT EVERY TIME GAMBIT NEWS HAPPENS. SHUT UP.
I don't understand the hate for Gambit. 70% of the people are always so negative when it comes to Gambit and they really don't want the movie to happen. I see such comments every time there is a Gambit movie news.
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I don't understand the hate for Gambit. 70% of the people are always so negative when it comes to Gambit and they really don't want the movie to happen. I see such comments every time there is a Gambit movie news.
I think you get that with just about everyone who isn't an A-list hero. Happened with GotG before it premiered and then (almost) everyone shut up. Also, Gambit, I've noticed, can be a very polarizing character sometimes. You get people like Jay and Miles who seem to just hate the guy or KT who loves him.
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And to add to this, I don't want them to make it if it's going to be a half-assed mess. I'd rather have no movie at all than another movie like Origins
You would never know if it good or bad if they won't make it. So they must do it.
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Kudos to this tweet :) :)
@sydneybaretts
NO ONE CARES IF YOU “DON’T CARE” ABOUT THE GAMBIT MOVIE. IF YOU DON’T CARE WHY ARE YOU ANNOUNCING IT EVERY TIME GAMBIT NEWS HAPPENS. SHUT UP.
Saw this post and liked it. A good one:)
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Ryan Reynolds is saying he really wants a deadpool/wolverine crossover movie.. They also did a Instagram skit together. .So still thinking wolverine is the cameo in deadpool
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Ryan Reynolds is saying he really wants a deadpool/wolverine crossover movie.. They also did a Instagram skit together. .So still thinking wolverine is the cameo in deadpool
I hope not just because Logan was such a perfect ending for Wolverine. It would kinda cheapen it to bring him back for a joke/cameo
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I’m betting the cameo will be Juggernaut. Not only is there evidence that he is in the movie but also if the villain turns out to be Black Tom Cassidy as speculated it would make perfect sense.
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I’m betting the cameo will be Juggernaut. Not only is there evidence that he is in the movie but also if the villain turns out to be Black Tom Cassidy as speculated it would make perfect sense.
The TV spot does look like Colossus is hitting Juggernaut but I think it might be an older Cyclops and Jean as Cable is involved.
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I think you get that with just about everyone who isn't an A-list hero. Happened with GotG before it premiered and then (almost) everyone shut up. Also, Gambit, I've noticed, can be a very polarizing character sometimes. You get people like Jay and Miles who seem to just hate the guy or KT who loves him.
but why is he polarizing? Deadpool is quite honestly an A hole criminal who tells a string of dirty jokes and he's super popular
Wolverine is a womanizer a gambler etc. But hes popular too.
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but why is he polarizing? Deadpool is An quite honestly an A hole criminal who tells a string of dirty jokes and he's super popular
Wolverine is a womanizer a gambler etc. But hes popular too.
Idk, honestly. I'm sure there are a lot of factors. I've heard people complain about him being a "product of the 90s", being too similar to Wolverine, his costume, his powers, etc. Plus, he's been the victim of crappy writing in the past, which can sour him for people (like how he's been depicted as aggressive towards women). Idk, though. Just spit-balling ideas.
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Idk, honestly. I'm sure there are a lot of factors. I've heard people complain about him being a "product of the 90s", being too similar to Wolverine, his costume, his powers, etc. Plus, he's been the victim of crappy writing in the past, which can sour him for people (like how he's been depicted as aggressive towards women). Idk, though. Just spit-balling ideas.
IF this happens..Tatum has a lot of work ahead of him getting the anticipation up.for the movie and the character
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IF this happens..Tatum has a lot of work ahead of him getting the anticipation up.for the movie and the character
For sure. Because for every comment I see saying they don't want a Gambit movie, there's always another that says they don't want HIM as Gambit
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Yeah, that grows old. Doesn't it. People have been mean too. Calling him names and what not. He may not be my ideal Gambit, his enthusiasm more than makes up for it. I say let him.
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I’m betting the cameo will be Juggernaut. Not only is there evidence that he is in the movie but also if the villain turns out to be Black Tom Cassidy as speculated it would make perfect sense.
Juggs will be there but not as secret cameo. That secret cameo took only 2 hours to shoot. It won't be action.
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Juggs will be there but not as secret cameo. That secret cameo took only 2 hours to shoot. It won't be action.
I agree with you there. After all, Juggernaut wouldn't be much of a secret cameo if everyone knows about him already. I know there's some speculation that the "Peter" character is Pete Wisdom, but again, not much of a secret cameo if everyone knows about it.
If it turns out to be Wolverine, I'll be disappointed. As much as Hugh Jackman was great in the role, he's had enough screen time already. Time for a new face.
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Completely agree, but it's still pretty likely. That or something to set up X-Force/ Deadpool 3.
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For sure. Because for every comment I see saying they don't want a Gambit movie, there's always another that says they don't want HIM as Gambit
....add on to the fact the movie has had so many problems that people have written it off. Funny..Tatum was/is a popular actor. But he got slammed for taking on this role....the irony being the film was greenlighted because of him
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Idk, honestly. I'm sure there are a lot of factors. I've heard people complain about him being a "product of the 90s", being too similar to Wolverine, his costume, his powers, etc. Plus, he's been the victim of crappy writing in the past, which can sour him for people (like how he's been depicted as aggressive towards women). Idk, though. Just spit-balling ideas.
I’ve always wondered about the notion Gambit is similar to Wolverine. How does blowing up stuff compare to retractable claws and regenerative powers? How does a snarly, explosive character compare to a tricky thief and suave womaniser?
Their pasts are completely different, their looks are the total opposite. I really don’t see mand similarities...
Or is that just me?
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I’ve always wondered about the notion Gambit is similar to Wolverine. How does blowing up stuff compare to retractable claws and regenerative powers? How does a snarly, explosive character compare to a tricky thief and suave womaniser?
Their pasts are completely different, their looks are the total opposite. I really don’t see mand similarities...
Or is that just me?
Nah, I get where you're coming from. I think it has to do with the idea that they both fit under the "loner with a mysterious past" archetype. Some people just aren't able to get past that to see how they're completely different characters.
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@_ChristopherM
Jordan Vogt-Roberts posted this on IG.. teasing a GAMBIT meeting? Cause Remy is a playable character in all of these games.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcjSlHtXUAAf20w.jpg)
So anybody watched Kong movie? Was it good? RT says it is fresh.
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@_ChristopherM
Jordan Vogt-Roberts posted this on IG.. teasing a GAMBIT meeting? Cause Remy is a playable character in all of these games.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcjSlHtXUAAf20w.jpg)
So anybody watched Kong movie? Was it good? RT says it is fresh.
Interesting. I haven't personally seen Kong, but I heard pretty mixed reactions about it, so I'm not sure how to feel about this. Also, it looks like he took the post down, because I can't seem to find it.
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Never heard of the guy before skull island..but the movie was terrible...I hope they don't go with him. Writers: magic mike, magic mike xxl. Robocop. Director: Kong skull island? This makes me nervous😦
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Never heard of the guy before skull island..but the movie was terrible...I hope they don't go with him. Writers: magic mike, magic mike xxl. Robocop. Director: Kong skull island? This makes me nervous😦
Yeah, that's not exactly a dream team haha
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Never heard of the guy before skull island..but the movie was terrible...I hope they don't go with him. Writers: magic mike, magic mike xxl. Robocop. Director: Kong skull island? This makes me nervous😦
Magic Mike has good scores and critic reviews. It is a good moie it seems. Never watched it.
Robocop was trash but I am sure that original script for Gambit was changed mostly.
Don't know about Kong.
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Magic Mike is actually a good film. The sequel is bad. I really don't think Josh Zetumer is the one to blame for the Robocop remake being lame. And a lot of people actually liked kong skull island.
Though I've never seen it so I can't comment on it. But this is interesting news regardless. The timing seems a bit convenient to only be coincidence. But maybe that's all it is.
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Nah, I get where you're coming from. I think it has to do with the idea that they both fit under the "loner with a mysterious past" archetype. Some people just aren't able to get past that to see how they're completely different characters.
Some people like to pretend the 90's were bad times and add that to the fact that Gambit is/was an instantly popular character... I mean whose a better new character? X-23? It's not difficult to argue that Gambit is the most successful new marvel character in the past 25 years.
Also: I wish they would make this, but I feel it got a halt put on it
Another also: Arcade's Revenge sucked, practically unplayable, a total disappointment
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I had to look up who this guy was and why did it matter what his instagram picture were. That's quite the beard and that's the strongest opinion I have so far, never seen any of his movies. It's sadly ironic that a movie that's been in development hell for years might end up being 'rushed'
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Kong Skull Island was an awful film. I don't want to judge someone off of one piece of work, but yikes...
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Some people like to pretend the 90's were bad times and add that to the fact that Gambit is/was an instantly popular character... I mean whose a better new character? X-23? It's not difficult to argue that Gambit is the most successful new marvel character in the past 25 years.
Also: I wish they would make this, but I feel it got a halt put on it
Another also: Arcade's Revenge sucked, practically unplayable, a total disappointment
I think one could argue that X-23 is more popular, especially with the release of Logan. But I see your point
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Kong Skull Island was an awful film. I don't want to judge someone off of one piece of work, but yikes...
indeed.
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It did get 75 on rotten tomatoes, I guess it was considered universal terrible...
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It's possible the secret cameo has been "spoiled":
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/05/09/deadpool-2-brad-pitt-cameo-spoiler-the-vanisher-x-force/ (http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/05/09/deadpool-2-brad-pitt-cameo-spoiler-the-vanisher-x-force/)
Or it's a ruse to sidetrack us. Whatever.
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That's exactly the type of thing Deadpool would do...drat...
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Pitt? Foxs ongoing "could care less about gambit" stance continues
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Guys, spoilers!!! Hide your spoilers when you chat
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Apparently Pitt is playing the vanisher
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@UmbertoGonzalez. Um, actually nobody is "in talks" to direct GAMBIT. @VogtRoberts had a meeting but so will 5 or 6 other directors.
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@UmbertoGonzalez. Um, actually nobody is "in talks" to direct GAMBIT. @VogtRoberts had a meeting but so will 5 or 6 other directors.
Interesting. Gonzalez can be kind of hit or miss but he's been more "hit" lately so I don't doubt this. I still can't believe that it's just a little over a month before they're supposed to start production
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Interesting. Gonzalez can be kind of hit or miss but he's been more "hit" lately so I don't doubt this. I still can't believe that it's just a little over a month before they're supposed to start production
Its interesting, took a peek at CTs IG page and you'd think a month out he'd be doing training (bow staff etc) or taking meetings with the director interviews they are doing. But looks like hes been out of state for several weeks promoting his vodka and and writing motorbikes in the desert. Wouldn't be surprised if filming got pushed back.
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I'd be more surprised if it started filming...
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Let’s just face it; They won’t start filming anytime soon. They have nothing but Tatum.
I’m becoming a bit annoyed. 2018 was supposed to be a top year for me. A film and a game being released, but as it looks neither of them will be happening this year. And I’m really wondering if they’ll be next year.
No, not annoyed, just outright pissed off.... >:(
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Wow that's right. The only person signed on to this is CT. I have to support him. He's us. He probably became a fan of the character at the same time as most of us. He's trying to bring something into existence and I think he deserves our backing.
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I still think it will happen. Even if they will delay shooting till August it will be enough time for June 2019 release date.
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A film and a game being released, but as it looks neither of them will be happening this year.
Wait, was there a game announced?
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Wait, was there a game announced?
Not a Gambit game. Just a game I’ve been looking forward to for so long.
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At deadpool premiere....Simon said he hopes to MAYBE start shooting by end of summer now(" have a script we/channing love") ....wants to pick director in next couple weeks. https://heroichollywood.com/simon-kinberg-begin-gambit-summer/ (https://heroichollywood.com/simon-kinberg-begin-gambit-summer/) they have had 5 yrs..now its a rush job😌 the saga continues..
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Some satire concerning the movie
https://youtu.be/BLqce0h6B9E
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At deadpool premiere....Simon said he hopes to MAYBE start shooting by end of summer now(" have a script we/channing love") ....wants to pick director in next couple weeks. https://heroichollywood.com/simon-kinberg-begin-gambit-summer/ (https://heroichollywood.com/simon-kinberg-begin-gambit-summer/) they have had 5 yrs..now its a rush job😌 the saga continues..
Good! Exactly what I expected.
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The actual brief video Interview with Simon https://youtu.be/urnJoeIY9Cc (https://youtu.be/urnJoeIY9Cc) . No idea why omega underground is taking credit for this lol. They said June 19th -Sep with is obviously not happening. Plus kinburg said maybe an end of summer shoot. They don't even know yet .so how would OU. Lol
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Watched Deadpool 2. No Gambit there.
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This @OnePerfectShot publication seems to have a particular disdain for the gambit film. Keeps re tweeting and writing stuff badmouthing the gambit film. I noticed the haters are now calling gambit "dated" and a wolverine copy lol. Its always something😂
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This @OnePerfectShot publication seems to have a particular disdain for the gambit film. Keeps re tweeting and writing stuff badmouthing the gambit film. I noticed the haters are now calling gambit "dated" and a wolverine copy lol. Its always something😂
Ugh, haters gonna hate ::) [size=78%] I've just learned to ignore them[/size]
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Ugh, haters gonna hate ::) [size=78%] I've just learned to ignore them[/size]
did deadpool get This kinda hate during the 10 yrs of development hell?
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did deadpool get This kinda hate during the 10 yrs of development hell?
Not nearly. I feel like it was the polar opposite where everyone was demanding they make one
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Not nearly. I feel like it was the polar opposite where everyone was demanding they make one
No way. That was a long, disastrous 10 years I waited for Deadpool. Nearly everyone constantly said to just kill it because it didn't make sense or fit in anyway. Here, we have producers saying they WANT to start filming and they have a script. Remember no one wanted Deadpool made until test footage was released.
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No way. That was a long, disastrous 10 years I waited for Deadpool. Nearly everyone constantly said to just kill it because it didn't make sense or fit in anyway. Here, we have producers saying they WANT to start filming and they have a script. Remember no one wanted Deadpool made until test footage was released.
Agree to disagree I guess. Everywhere I went that even mentioned Deadpool, I saw people foaming at the mouth for a movie, saying things like "They need to fix what they did to him in Origins".
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So. Gambits cinematographer took another movie with Michael bay. So I assume they won't be using him .
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Which one was that? Someone connected to Verbinski?
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I think that new director will bring his cinematographer.
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Which one was that? Someone connected to Verbinski?
yeah..assuming it's the guy gore brought on. Hopefully they did not lose the amazing costume and production designers. But I wouldn't be surprised.
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yeah..assuming it's the guy gore brought on. Hopefully they did not lose the amazing costume and production designers. But I wouldn't be surprised.
Oh yeah, I forgot about the costume designer. That would hurt if we lost her
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I can imagine the costume designer is staying on with the film. Channing Tatum has been doing many wardrobe fittings for the costume. Tatum has always stated that he wants the Gambit from the comic with his costume. :gambit: She will most likely have the costume finished now, if they are getting ready to film at the end of the Summer.
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So I found some news on Channing Tatum... Looks like he will be promoting his live Magic Mike show in Vegas. Hopefully he will still have his long hair by this point. Fingers crossed this will prompt Graham to ask him something that will lead him to mention the Gambit film (One can hope)
The Graham Norton Norton show is bringing some Magic Mike sparkle to his sofa in a few weeks' time with none other than Channing Tatum.
The BBC One show will welcome the star on June 8 alongside none other than Olympic legend Usain Bolt, who is taking part in this year's Soccer Aid
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-Channing Tatum has been doing many wardrobe fittings for the costume. ;
where did you see this?
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I haven´t see an article online about it but most likely that has been happening behind the scenes. Costume fitting is done in the development stages, before pre-production starts. If they are filming this Summer, it will be most likely completed.
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I haven´t see an article online about it but most likely that has been happening behind the scenes. Costume fitting is done in the development stages, before pre-production starts. If they are filming this Summer, it will be most likely completed.
I hear ya..but after almost 5 yrs and 3 directors I'm done assuming things about this film lol. But hopefully you are right.
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LOL very true, I feel exactly the same. Keeping my hopes very low, as it has been a roller coaster of emotions :D :o :'( ??? ::) the last 5 years following the news on this film.
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How will you guys feel if Fantomex gets a movie or a tv series made before Gambit as Ed Skrein is interested in playing him. https://www.cbr.com/fantomex-ed-skrein-deadpool/
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How will you guys feel if Fantomex gets a movie or a tv series made before Gambit as Ed Skrein is interested in playing him. https://www.cbr.com/fantomex-ed-skrein-deadpool/ (https://www.cbr.com/fantomex-ed-skrein-deadpool/)
Ugh. All I'm going to say is that Fantomex is about as famous outside of x-comics as Ed Skrein is in Hollywood (as in "Ed who?"). I'm going to chalk that up to his wishful thinking. ::)
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How will you guys feel if Fantomex gets a movie or a tv series made before Gambit as Ed Skrein is interested in playing him. https://www.cbr.com/fantomex-ed-skrein-deadpool/
I say we riot.
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Who's ed skrein? Anyway didn't know fantomex was intresting enough or well.known enough for a tv series or movie 😒
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One... Who's Ed Scream? Two... If they put out Fantomex before Gambit the general audience is going to be very confused if his look is comic faithful. They are going to call him Gambit/ Deadpool ripoff. Plain and simple.
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I will be pretty pissed if they put that film first before Gambit. Fox should be supporting this film first.
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One... Who's Ed Scream? Two... If they put out Fantomex before Gambit the general audience is going to be very confused if his look is comic faithful. They are going to call him Gambit/ Deadpool ripoff. Plain and simple.
Just imagine if Fox does make a Fantomex film where he speaks french and is a master thief who is very mysterious and then a Gambit movie comes out. General audience will think that Gambit is a ripoff of Fantomex. That will be very strange if such a thing ever happens.
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I say we riot.
I'll bring the pitchforks if you bring the torches
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Just imagine if Fox does make a Fantomex film where he speaks french and is a master thief who is very mysterious and then a Gambit movie comes out. General audience will think that Gambit is a ripoff of Fantomex.
isn't fatomex a blatant ripoff of Gambit? No idea who created him but I assume that's what he was going for....a gambit ripoff.
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It was Morrison, and he was meant as parody/ bitter satire of Gambit and Deadpool ( two characters he didn't like). But writer's after Morrison cough remember cough pretty much played him straight, completely missing the point of the character and writing as basically a 'meaner' Gambit or a Deadpool with no sense of humor.
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Lol, that guy played villain in first Deadpool. He can't have a new role in FOX universe.
That is the only reason why he is asking Fanto role. He is always wearing mask.
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To be fair, I think he would play a good Fanto. I hated his character in DP as much as I hate Fanto - it's a match made in hell ;D
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I'll bring the pitchforks if you bring the torches
Deal
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So I found some news on Channing Tatum... Looks like he will be promoting his live Magic Mike show in Vegas. Hopefully he will still have his long hair by this point. Fingers crossed this will prompt Graham to ask him something that will lead him to mention the Gambit film (One can hope)
The Graham Norton Norton show is bringing some Magic Mike sparkle to his sofa in a few weeks' time with none other than Channing Tatum.
The BBC One show will welcome the star on June 8 alongside none other than Olympic legend Usain Bolt, who is taking part in this year's Soccer Aid
wonder wth he is promoting? MM has already been out in for a long time in Vegas. The only other film he has done is a animated one that does not come out for months. He has not done any acting movie roles for quite awhile..just producing.
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Captain marvel is filming in new Orleans end of June..what this means for gambit I don't know.
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The last report that came about the Gambit film, it said they will start filming up in Montreal, Canada.
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Apparently Tatum showed up on Britians Got talent with male strippers announcing MM London. To bad it was not gambt he was annoucing lol
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Apparently Tatum showed up on Britians Got talent with male strippers announcing MM London. To bad it was not gambt he was annoucing lol
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He was rocking some short Gambit-esque hair, so at least there's that. :/
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Im just happy he still has the hair style. Thats a good sign.
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For anyone who hasn't seen his hair, you can get a pretty good look here: ?hl=en&taken-by=channingtatum
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I think he has had that haircut for several yrs?
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I think he has had that haircut for several yrs?
Seems like he's had it since he was at SDCC a couple years ago. It's just been at varying lengths
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Tatum was bold after Liman departure.
Now like this
(http://photos.laineygossip.com/articles/channing-tatum-london-04jun18-02.jpg)
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Seems like he's had it since he was at SDCC a couple years ago. It's just been at varying lengths
His hair has be ready for when they finally green light filming "Gambit"... ;)
Got to admit: that hairstyle is pretty suitable for the "head sock", isn't it?
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Yep, 100% agree, you can see where the head sock will sit, on the sides of his head. Its been shaven to not show any bumps. :smitten:
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Why, oh why? Waiting this long...for the head sock! Oh the tragedy!
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Why, oh why? Waiting this long...for the head sock! Oh the tragedy!
isn't gambit known for the head gear?
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Head gear must appear in movie. It`s Gambit`s iconic look.
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I’m still against the head sock. Please. No!
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Head gear must appear in movie. It`s Gambit`s iconic look.
agree..it part of what he's known for. I actually love the black leather head wraps on the more expensive Showtime statues of him. Very cool. Please no bandanas😲 he looks like hes about to.rob a train in the wild west lol
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agree..it part of what he's known for. I actually love the black leather head wraps on the more expensive Showtime statues of him. Very cool. Please no bandanas😲 he looks like hes about to.rob a train in the wild west lol
Hah) Gambit had a few costumes with bandanas so bandana in movie won't surprise me.
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Hah) Gambit had a few costumes with bandanas so bandana in movie won't surprise me.
I think Tatum said he
was more into cartoon Remy. Hopefully Tatum does not get hurt or worse with all that dangerous motorcross stuff he's been doing a lot thats all over his Instagram.
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:Speaking to the Evening Standard newspaper, he said: "If I ever get in shape again then I'll definitely do it. I got to go do a movie that'll make me get in shape again and then I'll do it. I would love to come to London. If I dance in Vegas I'm definitely going to dance here."
Hopefully he is talking about Gambit.
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Fingers crossed
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Hopefully he is talking about Gambit.
Ofcourse he is talking about Gambit
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Ofcourse he is talking about Gambit
as I said before ..after 5 yrs I never make assumptions about this movie lol. Its a possibility he could mean the splash remake which is going ahead
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Tatum was on Graham Norton tonight. Honestly he does not look anything like gambit does he? Lol Oh well! He told a great story about his dad and a alligator
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Tatum was on Graham Norton tonight. Honestly he does not look anything like gambit does he? Lol Oh well! He told a great story about his dad and a alligator
Haha, nope, he does not. I guess he didn't mention anything about his future projects, huh?
I really appreciate CT's enthusiasm as a fan...I just wish he'd serve as a producer or something and leave the role to someone else who fits the part a bit better. I can't help but wonder if his attachment to the film is an advantage or a disadvantage. I can see movie execs being happy with his name attached to the film, but I can also see a lot of fans who don't like the idea of him as Gambit. I have my doubts, but I'm really not familiar with his films, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. I hope he proves the naysayers wrong once this film gets made.
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Haha, nope, he does not. I guess he didn't mention anything about his future projects, huh?
I really appreciate CT's enthusiasm as a fan...I just wish he'd serve as a producer or something and leave the role to someone else who fits the part a bit better. I can't help but wonder if his attachment to the film is an advantage or a disadvantage. I can see movie execs being happy with his name attached to the film, but I can also see a lot of fans who don't like the idea of him as Gambit. I have my doubts, but I'm really not familiar with his films, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. I hope he proves the naysayers wrong once this film gets made.
Nope, said zero nothing about Gambit, He did say he was not in the shape anymore to do MM
On your other points,,agree on ALL counts
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Most actors do not look like their characters until they are in costume and have their hair and make up done. Im sure we will see something very similar to Gambit then (If it ever gets made)
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Sooo..going on a month since Simon said a few weeks for a director?
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Sooo..going on a month since Simon said a few weeks for a director?
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Yeah, can't say I'm too surprised though. I know they said they're going to continue working on their movies as if the buyout wasn't happening, but I wonder if something changed with all of the rumors that there will be some news soon
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Fox Provides Gambit update at CineEurope
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/06/12/gambit-movie-fox-x-men-status-update-slate-channing-tatum/ (http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/06/12/gambit-movie-fox-x-men-status-update-slate-channing-tatum/)
-According to the Russian webiste Fox apparently briefly included -Gambit (http://comicbook.com/category/gambit)- in their CineEurope presentation-After screening a trailer for (http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/06/12/x-men-dark-phoenix-teaser-debut/)- the studio apparently announced that The New Mutants and Gambit were other projects they have planned in the Marvel universe
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Fox Provides Gambit update at CineEurope
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/06/12/gambit-movie-fox-x-men-status-update-slate-channing-tatum/ (http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/06/12/gambit-movie-fox-x-men-status-update-slate-channing-tatum/)
-According to the Russian webiste Fox apparently briefly included -Gambit (http://comicbook.com/category/gambit)- in their CineEurope presentation-After screening a trailer for (http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/06/12/x-men-dark-phoenix-teaser-debut/)- the studio apparently announced that The New Mutants and Gambit were other projects they have planned in the Marvel universe
Nothing new. But good news for people who needed confirmation that it is still happening.
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Better link from screenrant. "Fox confirms gambit going forward" https://screenrant.com/gambit-movie-update-channing-tatum/
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For goodness sake, just bring Doug back and let him make his sexy-action-thriller heist movie...
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For goodness sake, just bring Doug back and let him make his sexy-action-thriller heist movie...
last I heard it was a comedy. Lol. They need to pick a genre
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Good news...kinda sorta. Was there a clause in the Disney/Fox takeover where Fox was allowed to finish whatever films they had in development (or did I dream that up)?
I wish CT and co. would give us a bit more info than that. A hint of what the script is about...a director...a cast...anything!
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Good news...kinda sorta. Was there a clause in the Disney/Fox takeover where Fox was allowed to finish whatever films they had in development (or did I dream that up)?
I wish CT and co. would give us a bit more info than that. A hint of what the script is about...a director...a cast...anything!
yeah..looks like Tatum did quite a few MML interviews but never mentioned it..nor was asked I guess. Bummer seeing all this casting and director news for other superhero films..yet the long wait continues whether this one will happen or not.
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Did someone pitch to Guy Richie?
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Did someone pitch to Guy Richie?
He'd be perfect for a heist movie. I imagine he's probably going to be busy with Sherlock Holmes 3 soon, though (if he's back for that - Idk if he's been confirmed or not).
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Did someone pitch to Guy Richie?
I'd might even take Lionel Richie at this point
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Did someone pitch to Guy Richie?
He would be very cool!
But won`t happen. He is kinda doing Aladdin for Disney, I think.
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I'd might even take Lionel Richie at this point
LMAO. "Hello, is it me you're looking for?"
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LMAO. "Hello, is it me you're looking for?"
Gambit the musical!! 😂
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Gambit the musical!! 😂
LOL!!! Careful now, don't give Fox any ideas.
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Yes. Make it a musical. Songs written by Lin-Manuel Miranda.
Or make it a twee Wes Anderson movie.
Or make it a Coen Brothers comedy.
Or do it as a silent film.
Or make it a Merchant Ivory type period piece.
I’m game for anything at this point—truly.
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pfft .... they have no idea what to do! As implied anything would be nice. It may come with a cost.
I got it ... since CT has invested so much Magic Mike ... how about a MM ... Gambit.
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pfft .... they have no idea what to do! As implied anything would be nice. It may come with a cost.
I got it ... since CT has invested so much Magic Mike ... how about a MM ... Gambit.
Yeah, I'd watch that. LMAO.
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It looks like the Gambit film is not happening.
Recent photos show the back of Tatums hair has been shaven off.
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It looks like the Gambit film is not happening.
Recent photos show the back of Tatums hair has been shaven off.
looks the same to.me
Its always been shaved up to middle all the way around
The hat is hiding his hair
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It looks like the Gambit film is not happening.
Recent photos show the back of Tatums hair has been shaven off.
Was that just today? He just posted on Instagram yesterday and it looked like he had the same hair
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Sorry my bad, i never noticed before the back of his hair was shaven.
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Was that just today? He just posted on Instagram yesterday and it looked like he had the same hair
Good. Because I was atraid that became bold again.
We need Director news asap
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Good. Because I was atraid that became bold again.
We need Director news asap
the producer said over a month ago they were going to pick a director in a couple weeks lol
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Wigs are a thing, too.
I know the movies typically only take a few cues here and there or follow vague guidelines of old comic arcs, I wonder if the newest thing with his marriage would do anything to the movie.
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Wigs are a thing, too.
I know the movies typically only take a few cues here and there or follow vague guidelines of old comic arcs, I wonder if the newest thing with his marriage would do anything to the movie.
it was always supposed to be a origin film I think
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No offense to me. Tatum, but he's a little too old for an origin film, lol. Personally hoping for a modern set film with several organizations origin-type flashbacks.
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No offense to me. Tatum, but he's a little too old for an origin film, lol. Personally hoping for a modern set film with several organizations origin-type flashbacks.
as far as age..I think Tatum.was actually 33 or 34 when he was cast in 2014 lol. First this film.was a sexy thriller than it changed to a. Comedy
It still amazes me there is not even any hint of rumors at this point of a potential director or cast members😦
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I'm starting to wonder if they're waiting to see what happens with the Disney takeover, because this lack of progress is getting ridiculous.
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I’ve officially given up. :-\ I commend you boys and girls for your perseverance.
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First director then castong and other things.
I think we will get some director news soon.
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Imagine if they had actually gone with the original "great script" back in 2016..They might be making the sequel by now. Lol. Wow
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I'm starting to wonder if they're waiting to see what happens with the Disney takeover, because this lack of progress is getting ridiculous.
I know Fox has said a while back that they're moving on with the movies as if the deal isn't happening but I think they're waiting with Gambit at least since they haven't released any news at all.
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I know Fox has said a while back that they're moving on with the movies as if the deal isn't happening but I think they're waiting with Gambit at least since they haven't released any news at all.
than why dosent fox just say that...instead of saying it's going ahead once every yr or so? If they are unsure or its dead...they should just say it.
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than why dosent fox just say that...instead of saying it's going ahead once every yr or so? If they are unsure or its dead...they should just say it.
At this point, I've stopped trying to figure out what Fox is trying to do. A lot of the stuff they do doesn't really make sense to me
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A lot of the stuff they do doesn't really make sense to me
I'd put channing Tatum in that category as well.
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Darn you all... when I saw all this activity on the thread, I figured something had actually happened.
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Darn you all... when I saw all this activity on the thread, I figured something had actually happened.
Lil, I have the same reaction every time.
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Darn you all... when I saw all this activity on the thread, I figured something had actually happened.
Same. *shakes fist*
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Amazing....all these rumors about new marvel films (nightwing etc). ..and we got squat on gambit😰😞😒😲
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I hope it is a calm before the storm.
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As a mod, I shouldn't encourage you all to stop posting... but when you do it here and nothing happens... my heart breaks. Just a little. :'(
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I think we're all waiting for that on piece of information that confirms it's actually going to happen. Until that time, tough luck, dude! ;)
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The source is a forum, so obviously take this with a huge grain of salt, but the rumor is the film is scrapped
http://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/rumor-foxs-gambit-movie-isnt-happening-anymore/
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The source is a forum, so obviously take this with a huge grain of salt, but the rumor is the film is scrapped
http://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/rumor-foxs-gambit-movie-isnt-happening-anymore/ (http://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/rumor-foxs-gambit-movie-isnt-happening-anymore/)
At this point, I just want this soap opera to end.
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Just kill it. Heartbreaking how this film was botched so badly by Tatum and fox. Thanks Channing😲 ..perhaps CT is waiting the contract out to get out it because he got over his head. NM And DP will released. Ridiculous to think they won't
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The source is a forum, so obviously take this with a huge grain of salt, but the rumor is the film is scrapped
http://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/rumor-foxs-gambit-movie-isnt-happening-anymore/ (http://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/rumor-foxs-gambit-movie-isnt-happening-anymore/)
Nah, not true. The rumour is now also that DP and NM are cancelled, lol.
Everything will be good.
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Nah, not true. The rumour is now also that DP and NM are cancelled, lol.
Everything will be good.
The source is obviously unreliable but as time goes by chances of this movie happening become smaller. It's painful.
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The source is obviously unreliable but as time goes by chances of this movie happening become smaller. It's painful.
Saurce about cancelled movie is completely unreliable.
From other unreliable froum I heard that they already have director with whom Tatum worked earlier and director name will shock everyone.
Also that unreliable source told that shooting will start this October and release date will be moved to Nov 22 2019.
Will see what will really happen.
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Saurce about cancelled movie is completely unreliable.
From other unreliable froum I heard that they already have director with whom Tatum worked earlier and director name will shock everyone. Also that unreliable source told that shooting will start this October and release date will be moved to Nov 22 2019.
Will see what will happen.
do.you have a link? Thanks
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Double post
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do.you have a link? Thanks
It is just a bad forum where I joined to fight Gambit haters, lol.
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=537609&page=23 (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=537609&page=23)
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I joined to fight Gambit haters, lol.
honorable cause 👏😁
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Guys. I'm gonna get real here. The movie isn't happening.
I've got to commend your enthusiasm and optimism, even looking for any shred of hope or sign - including Tatum's hair cuts! So I don't want to rain on your parade, especially since I don't have any more proof that it's not happening than you have that it is happening, but I do think that you should start to emotionally steel yourselves for the news that the movie ain't gonna happen.
Even if it does happen, it's been hyped and talked about so much now - all its problems have been discussed to death, people's minds have probably already been made up. If the film does come out, unless it's the damn Citizen Kane of superhero films, it's going to suffer because of predisposed opinions. Plus it keeps getting compared to Logan an Deadpool. Man, those movies were lucky. They were unique. They weren't done because other films did something new and made money, they WERE new. Deadpool did its thing, then Logan did its thing, now Gambit producers are saying "we want to do our thing because Deadpool and Logan did their thing" and cool if the movie went and did something unique and awesome STRAIGHT AWAY but right now solo superhero movies absolutely SATURATE the market. Unless Gambit does something awesome, like a swampy, sexy, gritty True Blood type of thing like what Marvel isn't doing, then I'm not sure it can escape the run of the mill movie trap, especially with Tatum as Gambit.
Speaking of Tatum, my hope for him has kinda died. I like the guy, but now I just don't want him as my Gambit. Only problem is that I don't know what other actor, director or producer loves the character enough to bring him successfully to the big screen without it being a cash grab.
Anyway sorry for the long rant, couldn't hold it in any longer!
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The shareholders for The Walt Disney Co. and 21st Century Fox voted this morning and the deal has been approved. So I don't see the movie happening.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/avengers/disney-and-fox-shareholders-approve-713-billion-merger-the-x-men-and-fantastic-four-are-coming-home-a162504 (https://www.comicbookmovie.com/avengers/disney-and-fox-shareholders-approve-713-billion-merger-the-x-men-and-fantastic-four-are-coming-home-a162504)
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Yeah, doubtful. But super excited for the future of X-Men movies.
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Little doubt IMO..dark phoenix and mutants will be Fox's last marvel films. All we can hope for is that Disney decides to eventually make Gambit, recast and find an actual competent team of talent. It will be interesting to eventually hear what really happened with gambit and how it was botched up.so bad.
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Guys. I'm gonna get real here. The movie isn't happening.
I've got to commend your enthusiasm and optimism, even looking for any shred of hope or sign - including Tatum's hair cuts! So I don't want to rain on your parade, especially since I don't have any more proof that it's not happening than you have that it is happening, but I do think that you should start to emotionally steel yourselves for the news that the movie ain't gonna happen.
Even if it does happen, it's been hyped and talked about so much now - all its problems have been discussed to death, people's minds have probably already been made up. If the film does come out, unless it's the damn Citizen Kane of superhero films, it's going to suffer because of predisposed opinions. Plus it keeps getting compared to Logan an Deadpool. Man, those movies were lucky. They were unique. They weren't done because other films did something new and made money, they WERE new. Deadpool did its thing, then Logan did its thing, now Gambit producers are saying "we want to do our thing because Deadpool and Logan did their thing" and cool if the movie went and did something unique and awesome STRAIGHT AWAY but right now solo superhero movies absolutely SATURATE the market. Unless Gambit does something awesome, like a swampy, sexy, gritty True Blood type of thing like what Marvel isn't doing, then I'm not sure it can escape the run of the mill movie trap, especially with Tatum as Gambit.
Speaking of Tatum, my hope for him has kinda died. I like the guy, but now I just don't want him as my Gambit. Only problem is that I don't know what other actor, director or producer loves the character enough to bring him successfully to the big screen without it being a cash grab.
Anyway sorry for the long rant, couldn't hold it in any longer!
I'm with ya on all points. With this deal going through, I just can't imagine Marvel will care enough about the movie enough to be made (at least Tatum's version). I'm honestly just excited to see what Feige will do with the entire X-Property.
What are everyone's thoughts/hopes on how they will bring the X-Men into the MCU?
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I'm going to be really bitter for two seconds and say: too bad for you, CT, I didn't want you as Gambit anyway... :P
*ahem* that aside...
What are everyone's thoughts/hopes on how they will bring the X-Men into the MCU?
I hope they bring them in as an established unit, albeit one that existed in secret (hence why no mention in the Avengers films), and the first film is the X-men bursting onto the scene to save the day in the midst of some mutant terrorist attack, for example. As there are so many great characters, I would love to see them launch two films consecutively, made up of two different teams (with cameos from both teams in the other's film).
Also: no Dark Phoenix saga for now. We'll be seeing it twice from Fox. Time to move on. I want to see Sinister, in particular, and Mystique as a proper villain. None of this "Raven is a role model" crap. And of course: Gambit, Gambit, and more Gambit. :)
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Disney bought Fox not for x-men rights. I am sure that MCU has planned movies for nearest years and they won't make any X movie till 2022 or later
Also I am sure that Wolverine will be the first MCU's X movie.
I still think that Gambit and X-Force will happen.
Will see what will really happen.
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Did I miss the "official" announcement a bunch of people are reporting happened that gambit, x23, x force etc ate all cancelled?
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I haven't seen an announcement but on twitter there was a quick thing about the buy out of Fox from Disney 71Bil plus - while every company says they keep operating while in transition ... these movies could be effected. I don't know, its speculation on my part.
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I wouldn't actually be upset if this movie never happened. Never liked the idea of Channing Tatum as Gambit.
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All we know for sure is that Dark Phoenix and New Mutants are NOT canceled. Anything else is up in the air.
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I really didn't want CT as Gambit. I find him more goofy than sexy.
So, I'd be fine with Marvel going back to the drawing board, and rethinking how to do Gambit as a film. If they believe it will make them money, they will do it.
At this point, Gambit has the same status as Solo, and will probably be the same kind of flop.
Actually, though, I think they just need to reestablish X-Men as a decent movie property before they do any solo films.
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The Disney buyout can only be a good thing at this point. In my opinion the X-Men movies kinda suck. Fox just doesn't seem to know how to make good superhero films, Deadpool being the exception. I've got a lot more faith in Marvel/Disney to just reboot the X-Men movie franchise and if we're lucky, Gambit will be a big part of that.
Only downside is that maybe they'll put Wolverine back in the limelight since it could technically be a different universe and they don't need Jackman. I'm kinda done with that character in the movies.
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Random casting idea for the MCU. Robert Pattinson. All of the Twlight haters will be against it, but he's put in some solid work since then, and he could easily pull off the look. Also found this little thing from '08:
Pattinson: Yeah. Who have I always wanted to play? Batman would be really cool, but Batman is a boring guy; like, Bruce Wayne is kind of boring. I haven't seen the ["Dark Knight"] yet, but in the comics he was always straight-laced. Spider-Man was quite cool, but he had to be a geek. And then there was Superman. But I always liked Gambit from "X-Men." Gambit would be cool. Has he ever been in an "X-Men" movie? :gambit:
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My issue with this film is that it's still at the same stage as it was 3 years ago. I was hyped back then, even though I really didn't see Channing Tatum as the guy for the role, and still don't.
It's been going way too long for me to still be enthusiastic about it. It's been beaten to death and then been stomped on. I'm tired of hearing the same old story, people leaving the project and so forth. It's high time they find people who actually want to make this film. If not, I really think it should be put in somewhere in the back of an archive, never to be found again. It's become toxic.
It makes me sad, because I was really looking forward to finally getting a proper Gambit film. 3 years ago....
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With the Disney acquisition of Fox and the possibility of Marvel Studios really not being thrilled about Dark Phoenix and New Mutants, I think the writing is on the wall and this movie basically all but done. Nobody has been more optimistic about this movie than me over the years but now I have to be realistic. It makes no sense for Marvel to go ahead with the Gambit movie at this point. The sooner Fox's X-universe ends the better. I just hope more than anything that when Marvel Studios/Disney finally makes their X-Men movie(which will be great) Gambit is a character they use from the beginning. I'm really not prepared to wait 3 or 4 movies for his inclusion. That would be devastating. And so unfair to all the Gambit fans who have been anticipating a Gambit movie for years now. What an awful tease the last few years have been. I still say if any X-Men can pull off their own solo movie it would be obviously Wolverine #1 and I think Gambit is #2.
The biggest bummer for me is that I really want to see Channing Tatum's take on Gambit. I totally bought in and I think he was going to surprise a lot of people and hit a home run. I still wish I could see something with him portraying the character. I also feel bad for Tatum in that this was his dream role and Fox is just so inept they couldn't get a decent movie together. Tatum basically put his career on hold for this project to see it through and after all that there will be nothing to show for it. Don't get me wrong, I am super exciting for an MCU X-Men and Gambit but I was really looking forward to this and I'm definitely bummed Tatum likely won't get to show what he can do as Remy.
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I'm really not prepared to wait 3 or 4 movies for his inclusion.
I feel the same way. I can't take another fifteen years of waiting for Gambit to finally be included.
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With the Disney acquisition of Fox and the possibility of Marvel Studios really not being thrilled about Dark Phoenix and New Mutants, I think the writing is on the wall and this movie basically all but done. Nobody has been more optimistic about this movie than me over the years but now I have to be realistic. It makes no sense for Marvel to go ahead with the Gambit movie at this point. The sooner Fox's X-universe ends the better. I just hope more than anything that when Marvel Studios/Disney finally makes their X-Men movie(which will be great) Gambit is a character they use from the beginning. I'm really not prepared to wait 3 or 4 movies for his inclusion. That would be devastating. And so unfair to all the Gambit fans who have been anticipating a Gambit movie for years now. What an awful tease the last few years have been. I still say if any X-Men can pull off their own solo movie it would be obviously Wolverine #1 and I think Gambit is #2.
The biggest bummer for me is that I really want to see Channing Tatum's take on Gambit. I totally bought in and I think he was going to surprise a lot of people and hit a home run. I still wish I could see something with him portraying the character. I also feel bad for Tatum in that this was his dream role and Fox is just so inept they couldn't get a decent movie together. Tatum basically put his career on hold for this project to see it through and after all that there will be nothing to show for it. Don't get me wrong, I am super exciting for an MCU X-Men and Gambit but I was really looking forward to this and I'm definitely bummed Tatum likely won't get to show what he can do as Remy.
. Disagree about Tatum. He obviously made a series a bad decisions about this movie. Kinda,making it a laughing stock. He has not mentioned it in a long time failing to keep fans informed about what's even going on with it. (Kinda cringe worthy to see him at the 2015 sdcc wearing a gambit t shirt on the marvel.panel )being the film was,never made . Again...they should have went with the FIRST script yrs ago and instead of constant rewrites and changes. He seems like a nice guy.. But he did Gambit zero favors. In fact all the gambit haters who wanted this film killed, got their ;D wish
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. Disagree about Tatum. He obviously made a series a bad decisions about this movie. Kinda,making it a laughing stock. He has not mentioned it in a long time failing to keep fans informed about what's even going on with it. (Kinda cringe worthy to see him at the 2015 sdcc wearing a gambit t shirt on the marvel.panel )being the film was,never made . Again...they should have went with the FIRST script yrs ago and instead of constant rewrites and changes. He seems like a nice guy.. But he did Gambit zero favors. In fact all the gambit haters who wanted this film killed, got their ;D wish
This is all just speculation on your part. We have no clue what were and weren't his decisions. For all we know the first script was one that would have pissed off a lot of Gambit fans as not being true to a lot of things. Tatum only spoke about the movie when asked and obviously could not say much about it. Considering all the changes and and stops behind the scenes there probably wasn't much to say anyway other than the "It's going to happen" stuff him and Kinberg and such kept saying. Given Fox's history I'm not sure how you can put so much blame on Tatum's shoulders. People were negative on him but what they needed to do was whip a decent movie together and show Tatum's work to people to make them come around. That never happened and everyone remained negative. You say he did Gambit no favors but he tried to. This is more the studios fault I would assume. They were way more interested in getting Deadpool 2 out(let's not forget it took them 10 years to put out the first one) and New Mutants and another lackluster X-Men movie out there so they pushed Gambit to the back burner reminding us all how long Deadpool took to make so don't worry, they'll make it one day.
If you didn't ever like Tatum in the role then that's fine and totally your opinion. But don't pretend like the movie never getting made is all his fault. Fox has quite a track record well before they ever dealt with Tatum.
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That's fair, we don't know whose 'fault' it is, could be Tatum's could be, kinsberg trying to keep his movie in the forefeet not, some executive we've have heard of...
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Random casting idea for the MCU. Robert Pattinson. All of the Twlight haters will be against it, but he's put in some solid work since then, and he could easily pull off the look. Also found this little thing from '08:
Pattinson: Yeah. Who have I always wanted to play? Batman would be really cool, but Batman is a boring guy; like, Bruce Wayne is kind of boring. I haven't seen the ["Dark Knight"] yet, but in the comics he was always straight-laced. Spider-Man was quite cool, but he had to be a geek. And then there was Superman. But I always liked Gambit from "X-Men." Gambit would be cool. Has he ever been in an "X-Men" movie? :gambit:
Glad that he likes Gambit but I am not a fan of Pattinson.
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Looking back, and remember this is the GG so... bias. Looking back all the stops, all the director changes, all the scripts rewrites. What if, what if maybe the Fox acquisition has been in the works for say... just around that time. Just saying as a Gambit fan. I mean, here's the thing, for all the old school on here: we know that Gambit is money. So better to hoard a cash reserve no?
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The last round of changes, when the release date was changed and director quit, was after the Disney deal was announced, so it was possibly a factor, we don't know...
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Random casting idea for the MCU. Robert Pattinson. All of the Twlight haters will be against it, but he's put in some solid work since then, and he could easily pull off the look. Also found this little thing from '08:
Pattinson: Yeah. Who have I always wanted to play? Batman would be really cool, but Batman is a boring guy; like, Bruce Wayne is kind of boring. I haven't seen the ["Dark Knight"] yet, but in the comics he was always straight-laced. Spider-Man was quite cool, but he had to be a geek. And then there was Superman. But I always liked Gambit from "X-Men." Gambit would be cool. Has he ever been in an "X-Men" movie? :gambit:
I'd still prefer a no-name take the role, but that's an interesting idea. He's been kind of coming into his own as an actor recently, so I could see it.
Also, I can't find a source for this, but couldn't Tatum have been Gambit in either Apocalypse or Dark Phoenix, but he stated he wanted him to premier in a solo first? Or was that just a rumor? I feel like if that's the case, he kind of shot himself in the foot
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Hello all!
I am brand new here and it's a real pleasure to meet everyone. I am a huge Gambit fan and starting off would like to say that: it's my opinion that Producer, Simon Kindberg had promised us that this movie would happen, so. . . this movie needs to happen. Yes, Tatum may not be the right option, however if done carefully and still placed to release a bit later on, with more meticulous work to flesh it out, this could be a sleeper hit! I'm thinking along the lines all the way back to the first Blade film. Done in that manner this could be pretty epic. It continues to be extremely disappointing to continue hearing the movie is back on, then cancelled, back on, then cancelled again. These dishonest games need to stop! Since the Disney/ Fox merger is now official- even though there are some that don't like Gambit (no idea why?), he is one of the top most beloved and amazing X-Men, even Marvel characters there is and Disney needs to at least include him in their new rebooted franchise, when that happens. Why are other fans entitled to finally get and have their favorite Marvel heroes done right on the big screen but Gambit fans aren't allowed to? It's very frustrating indeed. Thanks! Remy LeBeau forever :gambit:
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Hello all!
I am brand new here and it's a real pleasure to meet everyone. I am a huge Gambit fan and starting off would like to say that: it's my opinion that Producer, Simon Kindberg had promised us that this movie would happen, so. . . this movie needs to happen. Yes, Tatum may not be the right option, however if done carefully and still placed to release a bit later on, with more meticulous work to flesh it out, this could be a sleeper hit! I'm thinking along the lines all the way back to the first Blade film. Done in that manner this could be pretty epic. It continues to be extremely disappointing to continue hearing the movie is back on, then cancelled, back on, then cancelled again. These dishonest games need to stop! Since the Disney/ Fox merger is now official- even though there are some that don't like Gambit (no idea why?), he is one of the top most beloved and amazing X-Men, even Marvel characters there is and Disney needs to at least include him in their new rebooted franchise, when that happens. Why are other fans entitled to finally get and have their favorite Marvel heroes done right on the big screen but Gambit fans aren't allowed to? It's very frustrating indeed. Thanks! Remy LeBeau forever :gambit:
First of all: Welcome!
I'm not sure how much control Kinberg will have pretty soon. I've heard rumors that he will be helping with the X-Men moving forward in Disney, but take that with a huge grain of salt.
To answer your final question, here are my two cents: Gambit seems to be kind of polarizing because some of the ways he's been written to act hasn't been exactly PC and a lot of people just think he was written as a 90s-trying-too-hard-to-be-cool character.
What I can't wrap my head around is why are so unforgiving towards him sometimes. There are plenty of characters who have been written to do bad (or worse) things and they get a free pass for some reason.
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Thank you for the warm welcome! I completely agree. Why, for example would they even possibly consider making a Kitty Pryde/ Shadowcat film over Gambit? I happen to like Kitty as a character on the team, however I happen to know that Gambit is a way, way more liked and popular x-man
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To expand even further, Gambit has even been affiliated/ attached to Deadpool. He was even used in the Deadpool video game released a couple of years back. So, to some- even those developers who were responsible for creating and publishing the video game, Gambit is and has become an important, essential character.
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Deadpool took almost a decade. At this point, it is pointless speculating unless substantive news is released.
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I know it means nothing.. But find it funny that Tatum just NOW started following marvel studios on Instagram lol
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I know it means nothing.. But find it funny that Tatum just NOW started following marvel studios on Instagram lol
Is that true? That is actually very interesting. Wonder if there is something to it or just wishful thinking on his part. LOL
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From what I am hearing now is that the Dark Phoenix film will still be happening. Sounds like they will be re hashing and re shooting a large portion of the film. I believe that this would be a great opportunity to introduce Gambit. I want to remain hopeful that maybe, possibly they will work him into these new re shoots, since the actual Gambit solo movie is "for certain" scrapped, then please make him an essential part of the team in the new Dark Phoenix film. I wouldn't even be opposed to them having him team up with Magneto and the Brotherhood just like the way his character was portrayed in the X-Men: Evolution animated series of the early 00's. I liked ol' Remy being on that side of the fence. He makes a cool anti-hero. Please Disney/ Fox make this happen!
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From what I am hearing now is that the Dark Phoenix film will still be happening. Sounds like they will be re hashing and re shooting a large portion of the film. I believe that this would be a great opportunity to introduce Gambit. I want to remain hopeful that maybe, possibly they will work him into these new re shoots, since the actual Gambit solo movie is "for certain" scrapped, then please make him an essential part of the team in the new Dark Phoenix film. I wouldn't even be opposed to them having him team up with Magneto and the Brotherhood just like the way his character was portrayed in the X-Men: Evolution animated series of the early 00's. I liked ol' Remy being on that side of the fence. He makes a cool anti-hero. Please Disney/ Fox make this happen!
Reshoots are three months? .they are basically reshooting The film😲. Hopefully not true.
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Reshoots are three months? .they are basically reshooting The film😲. Hopefully not true.
According to Collider, it's actually like 2.5 weeks
http://collider.com/x-men-dark-phoenix-reshoots-explained/
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I don`t think that Gambit movie was scrapped and still think that it will happen.
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So. Looks like is CT is going to be in the third Disney produced kingsmen film. Looks like he's accepting other roles now.
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Doesn't seem to be much interest in this thread anymore....But Another nail in the movie? "Gambit hair" ...gone. He shaved it all Short ?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=fhmq0n2qf20c
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Doesn't seem to be much interest in this thread anymore....But Another nail in the movie? "Gambit hair" ...gone. He shaved it all Short ?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=fhmq0n2qf20c
s***. Hoped for the best till the end.
Really sad to see this.
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I don't thinks it lack of interest, there is no positive news regarding the project. It's tough to keep up when all the news bad news or negative articles for click bait.
TBH - the guy still wants to work in and have film roles, he can't wait forever for this project even if he's the one who was pushing for it. Unless he funds it himself which he won't do, what can you do.
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Now that Marvel has finally acquired Fox and the cinematic rights to the Xmen, our best bet to see Gambit on the big screen is just to wait until they reboot the Xmen movies for Gambit to appear. Marvel is 100% going to adapt their own version of the X-men and that'll be a part of the overall MCU. Marvel knows that the X-men were at their peak in the 90s so I think they'll adapt that version for the big screen at some point to capitalize on fans' nostalgia (those fans will take their kids to watch too). I think that's when Gambit will appear on the big screen next. It might be a little bit of a wait though.
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It might be a little bit of a wait though.
Well, we've been waiting this long. What's a few more years... :P
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Oh yeah, this film is dead.
Now that Marvel has finally acquired Fox and the cinematic rights to the Xmen, our best bet to see Gambit on the big screen is just to wait until they reboot the Xmen movies for Gambit to appear. Marvel is 100% going to adapt their own version of the X-men and that'll be a part of the overall MCU. Marvel knows that the X-men were at their peak in the 90s so I think they'll adapt that version for the big screen at some point to capitalize on fans' nostalgia (those fans will take their kids to watch too). I think that's when Gambit will appear on the big screen next. It might be a little bit of a wait though.
Agreed. If Marvel is keen on not rehashing what Fox has done (kind of like what they did with Spiderman by not repeating what Sony had done), I think we have a better chance of seeing Gambit on screen in a team film. They'll want to start fresh, and what's more "fresh" than introducing characters who were barely used in Fox's franchise and who are seeing a resurgence in popularity right now? OK, so I'm an optimist. :P
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That photo with bold Tatum is from January 2018. It is not new.
Hell yeah! I am on Gambit movie hype train again!
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Oh yeah, this film is dead.
Agreed. If Marvel is keen on not rehashing what Fox has done (kind of like what they did with Spiderman by not repeating what Sony had done), I think we have a better chance of seeing Gambit on screen in a team film. They'll want to start fresh, and what's more "fresh" than introducing characters who were barely used in Fox's franchise and who are seeing a resurgence in popularity right now? OK, so I'm an optimist. :P
Putting a lot of hope on a company that has s*** all over Gambit the last decade or so. Have no faith in Marvel with respect to Gambit.
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Seeing at this point how many times that Gambit was supposed to be cast and appear but always got axed, with 2009's Wolverine Origins film, I'm unfortunately not going to hold my breath. I see and hear a lot of dislike all over from others regarding Gambit. Case and point: Gambit has not even been included in the last couple of Marvel vs. Capcom video games when he proved to be one of the best characters way back since X-men vs. Street Fighter hit the scene. I just don't feel and very much confidence that Disney even cares about Gambit at all.
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Meant to express the Wolverine Origins was the exception. It's very frustrating, because I just know that Gambit does, in fact happen to be one of the top most popular mutants. I am I am very curious to see and hear producer, Simon Kinberg's excuse as to why? When he promised, even only a few months ago that this film was, for certain going to happen. I'm positive even then that he must have already had some inclination that Disney was knocking at the door.
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?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=5ejmdfz6t8cd. Nick Bateman now working on his version of a gambit film??. Good for him
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I liked the last fan made Gambit short film feat. Nick and he is really good with the no staff. Looking forward to this one too
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?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=5ejmdfz6t8cd. Nick Bateman now working on his version of a gambit film??. Good for him
Cool! Loved that short with Daken
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I liked the last fan made Gambit short film feat. Nick and he is really good with the no staff. Looking forward to this one too
he'd actually make a great mcu gambit hopefully they will notice.
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Again, I hope I'm not putting a link that's already been posted here, but I saw this fan made Gambit trailer and doesn't look too bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H4hBTr3h60 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H4hBTr3h60)
As for Ben Barnes as Gambit... I'm not sure, but I'll take Nina Dobrev as Rogue over Paquin any day.
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A collider reporter asked Tatum about Gambit today. CT says nothing new to report ..and he has no idea IF or when it will be made. What a waste of all that anticipation.
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A collider reporter asked Tatum about Gambit today. CT says nothing new to report ..and he has no idea IF or when it will be made
Sounds bad :(
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This is not my year, I swear! Both the Gambit film AND the remake of my favourite game of all-time have been stuck in a limbo. NOT a happy camper! >:(
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You know what? I hope it doesn't happen, it's actually making the character look bad, I personally think that the film never had a good script and Channing doesn't look like Gambit anyway. This roller coaster has been going on since 2014, it needs to die. Now that there's a big shift with Marvel, we'll get a younger and more suitable Gambit.
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You know what? I hope it doesn't happen, it's actually making the character look bad, I personally think that the film never had a good script and Channing doesn't look like Gambit anyway. This roller coaster has been going on since 2014, it needs to die. Now that there's a big shift with Marvel, we'll get a younger and more suitable Gambit.
Don't expect anything good for Gambit from MCU and don't think that we will see him there soon at all. 10 years more to wait.
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Don't expect anything good for Gambit from MCU and don't think that we will see him there soon at all. 10 years more to wait.
Please, don't say that. :'(
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I kinda 'agnostic' about Gambit in the mcu ( don't know if it will happen or if it will be good.) But why are so pessimistic about Purp?
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I kinda 'agnostic' about Gambit in the mcu ( don't know if it will happen or if it will be good.) But why are so pessimistic about Purp?
Feige told that they don't have plans to introduce FOX property characters and they are working on MCU movies. They have 20 or more projects right now.
Also he told FOX characters won't be added sooner then end of phase 4 or phase 5.
It is just from info from Feige. So I don't expect anything X-Men MCU related soon.
As for MCU I like only half of movies. Like Infinity War and Winter Soldeier.
Movies like Ant-Man and Thor 3 I can't watch. That humour is not for me.
Also Black Panther is too overrated. It is completely predictable.
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*gasp* ........ c'mon Purp! Black Panther was the best film EVA! LMAO. I couldn't help myself. I watched BP and while it was good for the type of film it was, it didn't live up the hype for me.
As for the Gambit film, bum deal, Tatum is moving on without saying it. He'll get to old for the part if he's not already and he was the driving force.
With all these other projects, I don't think we'll be getting a Gambit film any time in next few years.
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BP was fine... Not in my top mcu movies. And not life changing as everyone around me was going on about. But Bob Iger, Kevin's boss, said they'd be working on integrating the X-Men as soon as possible.
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I liked black panther too. It would probably be in my top five marvel movie, it the hype around it was a little much. Marvel practically dropped everything when they got Spider-Man back, though he was their flagship character, but I don't think their going to drag their feet on x-men.
Edit: my phones autocorrect made a bad sentence there, lol.
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5 yrs, 3 directors, who knows how many script rewrites. For crying out loud it went form a crime thriller to a comedy😲. They could not even figure out what kind of a movie it was going to.be!. It was a botched job from the start. They blew it.
Sadly financially it makes no sense to make it. Only can hope is IF gambit is in the MCU ..he is in.a group movie first to see how he plays to an audience. As for Tatum.... Replace him. He looks nothing like gambit(I think that haircut looks terrible on him)and will be too old for the rôle
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5 yrs, 3 directors, who knows how many script rewrites. For crying out loud it went form a crime thriller to a comedy😲. They could not even figure out what kind of a movie it was going to.be!. It was a botched job from the start. They blew it.
Sadly financially it makes no sense to make it. Only can hope is IF gambit is in the MCU ..he is in.a group movie first to see how he plays to an audience. As for Tatum.... Replace him. He looks nothing like gambit(I think that haircut looks terrible on him)and will be too old for the rôle
Seriously? How many MCU characters were introduced in team movies that fans loved so much and because of that Disney gave them their own movies?
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Seriously? How many MCU characters were introduced in team movies that fans loved so much and because of that Disney gave them their own movies?
So far none, Black Panter was already green lit before he appeared in Civil War and Spider-Man has had 2 incarnations already, if Black Widow gets a solo movie she will be the first and its taken nearly 10 years for that to happen
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So far none, Black Panter was already green lit before he appeared in Civil War and Spider-Man has had 2 incarnations already, if Black Widow gets a solo movie she will be the first and its taken nearly 10 years for that to happen
Exactly. Disney knows what they want from the start. If Gambit won't be planned in MCU as solo character from the start then Hawkeye treatmnent is the best what we can expect for him.
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The rumors from all the major news outlets has Disney shelving everything. Even the completed movies like New Mutants and Dark Phoenix. Probably a good idea, as it would just further damage the brand with more bad movies. Test screenings have not been kind to these movies.
Im good with Gambit just playing a supporting role in a future MCU project. Tatum was never right for the role, and its pretty clear to me that they have never had a story to tell, anyway. IMO, a bad Fox Gambit movie would probably damage the character beyond salvaging.
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The rumors from all the major news outlets has Disney shelving everything. Even the completed movies like New Mutants and Dark Phoenix. Probably a good idea, as it would just further damage the brand with more bad movies. Test screenings have not been kind to these movies.
Im good with Gambit just playing a supporting role in a future MCU project. Tatum was never right for the role, and its pretty clear to me that they have never had a story to tell, anyway. IMO, a bad Fox Gambit movie would probably damage the character beyond salvaging.
Noone will cancel Dark Phoenix that is completed movie and now is doing reshoots. Ridiculous rumour.
Noone know if Gambit movie would be bad or good. Good movie would definetely help Gambit to get a good role in MCU.
I am not fine with Gambit just as a supporting character.
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Think it's time we let this thread die... It's the only kind thing to do.
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Think it's time we let this thread die... It's the only kind thing to do.
No kidding, we're just inflicting pain at this point. This movie is dead at this point in time. Doesn't mean it can't resurface but ... we may be waiting a while for this to become anything.
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Think it's time we let this thread die... It's the only kind thing to do.
I'd say if after 5 yrs the lead actor and producer has no flipping dea if its even happening anymore. Yes..its time to.let go and hope for the best with the MCU where gambit is concerned. End transmission 😔
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Noone will cancel Dark Phoenix that is completed movie and now is doing reshoots. Ridiculous rumour.
Noone know if Gambit movie would be bad or good. Good movie would definetely help Gambit to get a good role in MCU.
I am not fine with Gambit just as a supporting character.
Thats old news, man. Disney doesn't sound like they want them released. Might get a release down the line as n exclusive on the Disney streaming service. This is all been reported by Collider, comicbookcast, screenjunkies, John Campea.
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Thats old news, man. Disney doesn't sound like they want them released. Might get a release down the line as n exclusive on the Disney streaming service. This is all been reported by Collider, comicbookcast, screenjunkies, John Campea.
Its being released in theatres. They are currently in reshoots...and a new trailer is expected shortly.
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Disney may be cutting back and or thinking of different ways to present the material. The projects may be over in their current form but could be represented in a different format.
My example would be Jessica Jones, Punisher, Daredevil .... etc. Those shows are doing well in the streaming service market.
Disney wants to do its own streaming service and its going to use prior properties to launch and set themselves up.
I would take a Gambit TV show, put the show in NO and keep the morally grey parts, it could work. We'd get more Gambit, it might easier to produce.
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RUMOR: FOX WON’T LET THE ‘GAMBIT’ MOVIE JUST DIE AND COULD SHOOT THIS FEBRUARY IN NEW ORLEANS
https://thegww.com/rumor-fox-wont-let-the-gambit-movie-just-die-and-could-shoot-this-february-in-new-orleans/ (https://thegww.com/rumor-fox-wont-let-the-gambit-movie-just-die-and-could-shoot-this-february-in-new-orleans/)
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Lol, such huge characters in my previous post weren`t intended but I like it ;D
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It does add a bit of that old time 'Extra, Extra, read all about it' feel to it
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Hmm, okay. I'm skeptical but it would still be cool to see what Tatum's vision would be like
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If Tatum(star and producer) has no new info or clue about it... Why would anybody else? lol. Not buying it.😎
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I supposed he could be playing coy, but what reason would he have for playing coy?
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Again.. If a Gambit film is is happening. Tatum does not seem to know it about it. He said today he has "no clue"" what he's doing next. ..acting or directing.
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1043588558487834624 (https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1043588558487834624)
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Gambit movie will have a tone of romantic comedy/sex comedy. This is really an interesting and I will be very open to it if they do get the movie
made -
https://www.cbr.com/gambit-movie-romantic-comedy/ (https://www.cbr.com/gambit-movie-romantic-comedy/)
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A romantic comedy? What happened to the crime thriller? Lol
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A romantic comedy? What happened to the crime thriller? Lol
There seems to be a huge change with the script which is the reason for the delay.
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Gambit movie will have a tone of romantic comedy/sex comedy. This is really an interesting and I will be very open to it if they do get the movie
made -
https://www.cbr.com/gambit-movie-romantic-comedy/ (https://www.cbr.com/gambit-movie-romantic-comedy/)
Cool! Thanks! I am ready :gambit:
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Gambit movie will have a tone of romantic comedy/sex comedy. This is really an interesting and I will be very open to it if they do get the movie
made -
https://www.cbr.com/gambit-movie-romantic-comedy/ (https://www.cbr.com/gambit-movie-romantic-comedy/)
Well, that's one direction to take it, I guess
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Well, that's one direction to take it, I guess
gambit has a pretty dark past.. Interesting how they could possibly make that into a romantic comedy toned movie. I see gambit being a"womanizer" comment from Kimberg set some off. Deja vu through. I'll believe it when the camera rolls.
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gambit has a pretty dark past.. Interesting how they could possibly make that into a romantic comedy toned movie. I see gambit being a"womanizer" comment from Kimberg set some off. Deja vu through. I'll believe it when the camera rolls.
Yeah, exactly. I wouldn't think his stuff with Belladonna would lend itself well to being a "Romantic Comedy". I've been trying really hard to not be cynical about this movie, but damn. Kinberg makes it hard
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Yeah, exactly. I wouldn't think his stuff with Belladonna would lend itself well to being a "Romantic Comedy". I've been trying really hard to not be cynical about this movie, but damn. Kinberg makes it hard
looking at twitter seems a lot want a "modern" gambit movie ...with rogue and all that. I don't . I want to see the origin story of the thieving and philandering gambit...as un PC as it is. But see the scathing comments from people on social media about the "womanizer" part ...doubt it will happen.
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looking at twitter seems a lot want a "modern" gambit movie ...with rogue and all that. I don't . I want to see the origin story of the thieving and philandering gambit...as un PC as it is. But see the scathing comments from people on social media about the "womanizer" part ...doubt it will happen.
It FOX cared about comments then Gambit movie would be cancelled because of haters just after announcement.
It is probably our last and maybe even only chance to get Gambit solo movie.
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It FOX cared about comments then Gambit movie would be cancelled because of haters just after announcement.
It is probably our last and maybe even only chance to get Gambit solo movie.
. A lot of the neg stuff seems to be about Channing Tatum playing gambit. He's been getting a lot of hate since it was announced way back but it only gotten worse. He's got a lot to prove. I happen to.think he's a miscast. Hope I'm.wrong👍.
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People are just mean on social media, especially on Twitter. People have hated on Tatum from the beginning, calling him potatoe head and stuff. He doesn't need that and I'm sick of entitlement of opinion.
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People are just mean on social media, especially on Twitter. People have hated on Tatum from the beginning, calling him potatoe head and stuff. He doesn't need that and I'm sick of entitlement of opinion.
its weird ..I always thought he was really popular. That seems to have changed I guess
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Weirdly enough, a rom-com wouldn't be too different from all of the romance movies Tatum has done in the past.
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Weirdly enough, a rom-com wouldn't be too different from all of the romance movies Tatum has done in the past.
what romantic comedies has he done? I know he's done straight serious romance films (the vow. Dear john etc)
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what romantic comedies has he done? I know he's done straight serious romance films (the vow. Dear john etc)
I looked on his wiki and he's done a couple at least. She's the Man was one of his first movies. And then one called 10 Years but I'd never heard of it before today
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He is Magic Mike ... LOL
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He is Magic Mike ... LOL
True...is that considered a romantic comedy? I've never seen it
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He is Magic Mike ... LOL
I never watched it. Critics says that first one is a good movie in its genre.
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Re: Magic Mike
True...is that considered a romantic comedy? I've never seen it
No, not a rom com but it has funny parts.
I never watched it. Critics says that first one is a good movie in its genre.
I've only seen the first one. I didn't watch the sequel Magic Mike XXL
I guess what really stands out for the Magic Mike film is its based on Tatum's experience as a male stripper in Florida.
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I looked on his wiki and he's done a couple at least. She's the Man was one of his first movies. And then one called 10 Years but I'd never heard of it before today
ohhh ok. Thanks... have not seen either of those, hes actually a pretty good dramatic actor when given the chance
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Looks like a lot of people on twitter are assuming/insisting Rogue will/ must be in it since its a "Romantic comedy" vide,. I was rudely informed that the orgin gambit story had been scrapped "a long time ago".. I dont remember seeing anything about that
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@20thcenturyfox has now set GAMBIT for release on March 13th, 2020
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This is just Kinberg playing misdirection. He's trying to maintain interest in the franchise until his last two films, New Mutants and especially Dark Phoenix are out. Spring 2020? GTHO of here. How long does anyone believe it's going to take for Disney purchase to be solid? I bet you it won't take another year.
Too much going against it
No director
Late filming date (2020?!)
Aging unengaged lead actor
The Disney purchase
Constantly changing script
Don't drink the Koolaid.
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Aging unengaged lead actor
This is why I'm having such a hard time believing this will be made. When was the last time he even acknowledged they were working on the movie?
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This is why I'm having such a hard time believing this will be made. When was the last time he even acknowledged they were working on the movie?
exactly... I find it odd he knew nothing about the status of this film a week ago. Also he didn't even mention it when asked what he was going to work on
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I'm not too thrilled about the film being a romantic comedy... if it's true, now I wouldn't mind some humor here and there, but not just that and romance. To me I would want a Gambit movie to be like the films from the 1980s, where it has a perfect or a near perfect mix of several genres. It has some action scenes, some comedy scenes, some romance senses, some drama scenes and so on, it doesn't just rely on just one or two genres and in the end, it would be a fun movie. But those types of films are not made any more.
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This is just Kinberg playing misdirection. He's trying to maintain interest in the franchise until his last two films, New Mutants and especially Dark Phoenix are out. Spring 2020? GTHO of here. How long does anyone believe it's going to take for Disney purchase to be solid? I bet you it won't take another year.
Too much going against it
No director
Late filming date (2020?!)
Aging unengaged lead actor
The Disney purchase
Constantly changing script
Don't drink the Koolaid.
Filming date is Feb 15 2019.
Release date is March 13 2020.
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I don't believe any of this at this point. Like has been said before, this is just to keep interest in the FOX X-movies that are already made. Wish they would stop toying with me at this point though. This whole thing has been really disappointing. The Disney/FOX merger will likely be done before this and I don't see them going ahead with this idea. Even if the deal didn't get done, why should we even believe it will start filming? We've heard this before and still no director. It bums me out but hopefully Marvel we make an X-Men film sooner rather than later and Gambit will be included right off the bat.
I really wish the deal could go through and Disney cancelled Dark Phoenix. That would be my dream scenario. I am so done and fed up with these FOX-Men movies that I really can't stand it anymore. I hope it bombs miserably.
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The deal is 'done,' and should be completely finalized by the end of the year. For that reason, I do agree it's probably a ploy to keep interest in DP and NM. And in the latest twist DP has just been moved to June. :0
If it does go through, as long as it's not straight up rom-com, it could possibly work, maybe...but the ship has kinda sailed on an origin story...Tatum could play the character younger than he actually is, but not 18 like would be needed for the belle wedding guilds story...
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The deal is 'done,' and should be completely finalized by the end of the year. For that reason, I do agree it's probably a ploy to keep interest in DP and NM. And in the latest twist DP has just been moved to June. :0
If it does go through, as long as it's not straight up rom-com, it could possibly work, maybe...but the ship has kinda sailed on an origin story...Tatum could play the character younger than he actually is, but not 18 like would be needed for the belle wedding guilds story...
technically the deal is not finalized to. Summer 2019. So fox can make anything they want until then. But Disney will probably replace all actors in the marvel universe revamp. So making this movie seems utterly pointless for Tatum but financially for fox as well
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It is FOX work to do movies. They must do them as long as they can. Definetely not pointless.
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Filming date is Feb 15 2019.
Release date is March 13 2020.
You realize February is like 4 months away? Have secured a location? Done casting? If they start filming in February, by now everything is supposed to be locked down. Money should be flowing and there would be more people talking about it than just Kinberg. Actors need to time to clear the schedules, crew needs to be hired, cinematographers should already be scouting. There would be storyboards. In other words, it wouldn't be a secret at this point. I'm not buying it.
It makes more sense than Kinberg understands that if people don't see a future for the franchise they wont get hyped for the movies. They won't tweet, they won't write articles, they won' inform their friends. It's not our money he's worried about, it's the energy we create. If one of us sways 3 friends, and each of them 1... That's exponential expansion. Big movies like this will always do well opening weekend and maybe even the 2nd week. General public doesn't care. They'll show up, but without excitement behind it, it won't have any legs. People will stay home or go late.
That is the last thing he wants is for us, the hardcore and internet in general to lose interest. He kind put his career on the line by directing and writing Dark Phoenix. If it flops... He needs this. It needs to make every penny it can. It already looks questionable.
I don't think Marvel will be hiring any of the Fox execs anymore than I think they are planning to keep the zmenX franchise going as is.
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The deal is 'done,' and should be completely finalized by the end of the year. For that reason, I do agree it's probably a ploy to keep interest in DP and NM. And in the latest twist DP has just been moved to June. :0
If it does go through, as long as it's not straight up rom-com, it could possibly work, maybe...but the ship has kinda sailed on an origin story...Tatum could play the character younger than he actually is, but not 18 like would be needed for the belle wedding guilds story...
June? When did that happen?
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June? When did that happen?
Dark Phoenix has moved from Feb. 14 to June 7.Robert Rodriguez’s Alita: Battle Angel has moves from its Dec. 21 slot to Dark Phoenix‘s prior Feb. 14 space. Gambit, which was slated to hit theaters on June 7, has finally moved out to March 13, 2020.
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You realize February is like 4 months away? Have secured a location? Done casting? If they start filming in February, by now everything is supposed to be locked down. Money should be flowing and there would be more people talking about it than just Kinberg. Actors need to time to clear the schedules, crew needs to be hired, cinematographers should already be scouting. There would be storyboards. In other words, it wouldn't be a secret at this point. I'm not buying it.
It makes more sense than Kinberg understands that if people don't see a future for the franchise they wont get hyped for the movies. They won't tweet, they won't write articles, they won' inform their friends. It's not our money he's worried about, it's the energy we create. If one of us sways 3 friends, and each of them 1... That's exponential expansion. Big movies like this will always do well opening weekend and maybe even the 2nd week. General public doesn't care. They'll show up, but without excitement behind it, it won't have any legs. People will stay home or go late.
That is the last thing he wants is for us, the hardcore and internet in general to lose interest. He kind put his career on the line by directing and writing Dark Phoenix. If it flops... He needs this. It needs to make every penny it can. It already looks questionable.
I don't think Marvel will be hiring any of the Fox execs anymore than I think they are planning to keep the zmenX franchise going as is.
I do realize. You told about late filming date 2020. I corected with info that was stated.
Will see what will happen.
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June? When did that happen?
you've seen the other post by now. But, yeah, like a day after the trailer, they up and completely change the release date. So both Phoenix and New Mutants were supposed to be out by now and both have been pushed back considerably. I could see why Kinsberg is worried about hype.
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Forbes: "Why Disney is rooting for Dark Phoenix to bomb" .
Interesting.. Assume the same could be said for new mutants.. Gambit etc. Disney wants to blow the fox x men franchise up and start over. Thinking if Tatum still wants gambit...dump fox go to Disney and pitch it.
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I do realize. You told about late filming date 2020. I corected with info that was stated.
Will see what will happen.
That was a rhetorical. I know you know what month it is! lol.
To be honest, I'm not upset more than insulted. I wanted this movie so much and I know it's not happening. But we got this jackhole trying to control the narrative to his benefit. The fact that they are pushing back DP to make it more appealing for the Chinese market because they know the American market has no faith in it just makes it all the worse.
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Simon Kinberg in a recent interview talks about how the script changed with the Gambit movie and now it will be love story.
https://comicbook.com/marvel/amp/2018/10/03/gambit-producer-film-changed-more-love-story/?__twitter_impression=true (https://comicbook.com/marvel/amp/2018/10/03/gambit-producer-film-changed-more-love-story/?__twitter_impression=true)
Edit, made the link larger.
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Simon Kinberg in a recent interview talks about how the script changed with the Gambit movie and now it will be love story.
https://comicbook.com/marvel/amp/2018/10/03/gambit-producer-film-changed-more-love-story/?__twitter_impression=true (https://comicbook.com/marvel/amp/2018/10/03/gambit-producer-film-changed-more-love-story/?__twitter_impression=true)
Cool! Love story of Gambit and Bella. Like it should be.
Hope it will lead to more comics with Gambit in Nola with his enemies.
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Simon Kinberg in a recent interview talks about how the script changed with the Gambit movie and now it will be love story.
https://comicbook.com/marvel/amp/2018/10/03/gambit-producer-film-changed-more-love-story/?__twitter_impression=true (https://comicbook.com/marvel/amp/2018/10/03/gambit-producer-film-changed-more-love-story/?__twitter_impression=true)
Oh boy, Kinberg's at it again
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Gambit and Bella's dark backstory never struck me as comedy.☹️ weird. . once there is a director and a CAST. Maybe it will be taken sightly more seriously. Even he admits it May not end up.being made
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Pre-wedding it could be like a comedy and if the wedding is the climax, it quickly becomes a tragedy... but yeah, not exactly excited about a superhero romance movie, even if it stars Gambit.
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Comedy AND romance... Well well well... That sounds way too much like a chick flick... Though being a female myself, I really don't want that to happen. At this point I'm leaning towards they should not make this film. This sounds awful.
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Comedy AND romance... Well well well... That sounds way too much like a chick flick... Though being a female myself, I really don't want that to happen. At this point I'm leaning towards they should not make this film. This sounds awful.
Agreed, as a female. Chick-Flick holds no appeal no matter how funny it is ..... Chick-Flicks never gets my dollars at the theater and they seldom get my attention when making it to the small screen. While I have seen a good number of them, I can think of a few that would be absolutely awful formula for a film for Gambit.
I dunno, I don't believe this stuff anymore. *shrug*
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Yeah, agreed as well. I really don't like where this film is headed (if it gets made). The character's reputation is on the line here too, i'd rather no Gambit film at all than a really bad one.
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Romantic - Comedies can be great, but mostly they're weak in story for various reasons. Other Chick-Flicks are too serious or the comedy isn't understood what so ever. It's fine line and when throwing in a "super hero" element, it needs to be balanced so well to make it work.
I don't want Gambit to be a joke in his own film. Rom/com - Chick-Flick may not be the way to go.
I've got no issues with Bella-Donna.
I don't think the movie makers have a clue what they want to do with this film.
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I know, right? They keep on jumping all over the place with the script, from a heist movie to a rom-com/chick flick. They need writers that know the character and his history. Some comedy is fine, after all, Gambit doesn't take himself too seriously at times, and has a wicked sense of humour. But he also has a dark past and is known to brood. A good mix between the above mentioned elements would make a great film. But if they go with the current theme they mentioned, I'd opt for not making it to it being a flop (and the risk of them never touching the character again). No issues with Bella Donna here either.
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Gambit's a con-man/thief, so really a 'Gambit' movie should have a clever script with twists, something that keeps the audience guessing.
For me personally, I'd be happier if they had Gambit as a wild card in X-Men movies. I think a solo movie is throwing him into the deep end.
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I don't see how they are supposed to be filming in February and they are still messing with the script in Oct. The last X-Men movie that was this fluid was X-Men The Last Stand, mostly because that was written and shot during the writer's strike. Id rather they not make a movie, than a bad one. Hurts the name, but I dont think we have anything to worry about on that front.
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I don't know either. I think the fan is being strung along. Tatum isn't as vigilant as he has been in the past and he shouldn't wait. Yes, I'm certain he wants this project but its stalled so much.
I really don't think there will be fill in our future - don't mean to be a Debbie Downer but how can they pull this off at this point?
There is so much that should have been done by now and much more to actually accomplish to make this work ... timing is short and we have no real news of anything happening.
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I don't know either. I think the fan is being strung along. Tatum isn't as vigilant as he has been in the past and he shouldn't wait. Yes, I'm certain he wants this project but its stalled so much.
I really don't think there will be fill in our future - don't mean to be a Debbie Downer but how can they pull this off at this point?
There is so much that should have been done by now and much more to actually accomplish to make this work ... timing is short and we have no real news of anything happening.
It would be pretty tough for them to get this made at this point, especially with the merger possibly happening sooner than expected. Like you said, Tatum doesn't seem very involved anymore and he was about the only one really pushing to make it. And sorry but I just don't trust Kinberg on this topic. He just seems like he's stalling
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I don't know either. I think the fan is being strung along. Tatum isn't as vigilant as he has been in the past and he shouldn't wait. Yes, I'm certain he wants this project but its stalled so much.
I really don't think there will be fill in our future - don't mean to be a Debbie Downer but how can they pull this off at this point?
There is so much that should have been done by now and much more to actually accomplish to make this work ... timing is short and we have no real news of anything happening.
Remember the last time it was this close to shooting? We were getting news everyday. People were actively being hired and auditioned. Again, you can't keep this a secret. If it was happening, it'd be common and public knowledge. In Hollywood, you have schedule things sometimes a year in advance depending on the cast, stars, production and crew. Everyone isnt available all the time. Movies don't take forever to make, but they are stacked up atop each other. A working actor can easily have 2 to 10 projects a year. It's why they say Hollywood is a small world. A lot of the same people work together year round in different combinations. Yo, I dont trust this guy (Kinberg). He's playing with us to keep hype going around the existing X-Men universe because his name is so attached to everything inside of it. No one pushed for this more than Donner and where is she, now?
Id rather spitball possible story lines and plots rather than worry or talk about this production. I'd be on board for a movie revolving around Gambit, Bella and the guilds. More so if they had multiple movies planned. IF not, a series of young Gambit right after leaving NOLA would be awesome. Him traveling around using what connections he has, thieving, dodging the authorities, possibly being hunted by branches of the assassin's guild where ever he goes. Maybe set him opposite of the White Tiger (the female FBI agent).
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a series of young Gambit right after leaving NOLA would be awesome. Him traveling around using what connections he has, thieving, dodging the authorities, possibly being hunted by branches of the assassin's guild where ever he goes. Maybe set him opposite of the White Tiger (the female FBI agent).
That's like my dream series. Could be a pretty thrilling cat-and-mouse story and wouldn't need a huge budget. Hint at the X-Men but never actually involve them until the last episode (if at all).
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Question would be "how far does it go". It all depends on how successful it is, and how time flies. Like, will each season end on a cliffhanger or have time pass in-between? If time passes normally, a whole season can take place within a couple weeks (or 24hrs lol). Another question is "when does it pick up?" A few weeks after the banishment or a few years? If it's a strong translation, itd determine what kind of stories we get. Gambit left nola between 17 and 19. He didn't encounter Storm until he was in his late 20s ( I always figured Gambit to be about Bobby's age or a tad bit older, but younger than Cyclops, Jean, Angel, and Beast). So there are a few stories that depends heavily on how old Gambit is;
Paris occurred before his banishment
The massacre was right after he left NOLA
His time doing merc jobs was after he gained better control
There's tons of stories to write to fill in the gaps. I think the massacre would make a great 3 parter to end on a cliffhanger. Paris would be cool as a single episode flashback. Maybe a story he's telling to someone to distract them...
Let's say Agent Angela (White Tiger) and he arrives together. She's trying to apprehend him and they are attacked by assassin's. Angela is mortally wounded. In the fight Gambit mistakenly collapses the side of a building on them. Shes in pain, maybe bleeding out and suffering from a head wound. To keep her awake he tells her about the time he spent in Paris. The story takes up most of the episode but by the end they are rescued and Angela, who was struggling with her attraction to him and his charm is now resolved to take him down. The story showing him for what he is (in her eyes). She could be out of the show for a few episodes giving time for Gambit to get mixed up with Sinister. The season finale can be what I described earlier, the end of Gambit taking Marauders on and trying to save the Morlocks. Angela stumbles in and gets involved, again changing her perception of him. Plus you know, 2 or 3 episodes of brawling. Maybe a good 1st season cap?
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Exclusive: X-Men Producer Explains What Films Will Influence Gambit
https://screenrant.com/x-men-gambit-movie-influences/ (https://screenrant.com/x-men-gambit-movie-influences/)
"I think with the standalone movies, meaning Logan and Deadpool. Not mainline, X-Men movies, one of the things we've strived to do is sort of create a sub-genre within the genre of the superhero movie. Obviously Deadpool was like a R-rated comedy. Logan was very much a western. And, so we talked a lot about who Gambit is. And it's always motivated by the character is. We talked a lot about who Gambit is as a character and the things that Channing [Tatum] relates to in the character. And so obviously he's a thief, obviously you know his superpowers, those things are going to be very present and prevalent in the movie. But he's also a scoundrel, and a rascal, and a womanizer, and a lot of other things that we felt like we could explore in his relationships with women and one of the genres that is underserviced genre now is the romantic comedy. So whenever we can smuggle some other genre into one of these kinds of movies... I mean I did it with...The first movie I ever wrote was Mr. and Mrs. Smith and that was a romantic comedy smuggled into a spy thriller. In the same way that on the surface it will be a superhero movie with you know. People love superpowers and things are going to explode and there's going to be car chases and all of that. Doing all the powers and cards that you are familiar with. Underneath that will be romantic comedy undercurrents and it's not really like Rom-coms from when we were growing up. Or when I was growing up. It's more going back to like Philadelphia Story and His Girl Friday and just the kind of pattern banter of that and the fun and speed of those kinds of movies."
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I see Kinberg is at again... I swear if he can get anyone else to say a word, I'll be shocked.
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I see Kinberg is at again... I swear if he can get anyone else to say a word, I'll be shocked.
yup.. Not a word from Tatum who's last said he had no idea what his next project was or if this movie was ever gonna happen lol . .....and still no director./casting. Not even any rumors out there
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Guys....this won't happen. And honestly, maybe it's best it doesn't. If Gambit (with the X-men) divert to Disney, we'd get a GREAT Gambit eventually.
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I wish Kinberg would just shut up. Stop trying to string us a long. The only way this movie gets made is when the deal goes through with Disney, Kevin Feige and co. for some reason love the the idea of this movie and want to get it into production asap and use it as part of the introduction into mutants and the X-Men world. I highly doubt that though. At least we can eagerly anticipate, finally with some confidence, a competently handled Gambit. I just hope they don't make us wait very long.
I'd be all for Tatum still playing Gambit in the MCU version but with him being 38 at this point, I'd be surprised if they brought him along. They always look to the future.
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Yep, Gambit's next on-screen appearance should be in the MCU. Yes, it will be a longer wait, but I like my Gambit involved with the X-Men...and if his portrayal gets a good response...THEN they can make a 'Gambit' movie.
As much as I appreciate Channing's love for the character and his efforts to get a Fox Gambit movie up and running, he's not the man to play him. He's more of a "Captain America", "Superman" or "Duke from GI.Joe" kind of guy. He's 38 now, and I'm expecting Marvel to re-boot the X-Men with youngish versions of Cyclops, Beast, Wolverine, Storm etc. It would look rather odd to have a Gambit that's 10+ years older than those core characters.
Though my BIGGEST concern is getting a really bad Gambit movie...we don't want that.
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So far not even 1 MCU character that wasn't planned as solo character get a solo movie because of good response.
If Gambit wouldn't be planned as solo character in MCU from the start then he always will be just a supporting character.
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I actually don't mind him being a supporting character if he gets a few really good scenes and some character development...in a very good/successful MCU X-Men film...that's all I wanted from the Fox films, but was denied many times.
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I'm with you about being ok with Gambit as a supporting character with a good arc and fun scenes in a successful MCU version of the X-Men. But man, we have been teased for so long with Gambit by FOX, even well before Tatum was rumored to play him that even that might seem a little disappointing to me.
And I completely disagree with people who say tatum is the wrong choice for Gambit. I honestly believe he was going to really impress a lot of people with his portrayal(assuming there was good material) and was going to look great as him. I was looking forward to what he was going to do with the character.
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So far not even 1 MCU character that wasn't planned as solo character get a solo movie because of good response.
If Gambit wouldn't be planned as solo character in MCU from the start then he always will be just a supporting character.
Well, to be fair, Black Widow has one in the works. So, that could set a precedent for the MCU
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How would "womanizer" go down in today's environment?
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How would "womanizer" go down in today's environment?
Not well, I suspect. IMO. It would have to be done so carefully.
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How would "womanizer" go down in today's environment?
Can work easily with Candra.
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https://screenrant.com/marvel-upcoming-movies-list-release-dates/2/
Not sure about how I feel about this, but it's curious to be listed here as a upcoming movie
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https://screenrant.com/marvel-upcoming-movies-list-release-dates/2/ (https://screenrant.com/marvel-upcoming-movies-list-release-dates/2/)
Not sure about how I feel about this, but it's curious to be listed here as a upcoming movie
I wouldn't put too much stock in this list. I think it's just a list of everything that has been announced and could still possibly be released. Whether it actually will or not is another story
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Still a ways away if it's true. I suppose anything can happen. I don't know where they got that exact date.
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there are people who were hired for the production that are still on retainer..........just saying
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I think project is frozen till summer 2019. Feige told that deal will be more or less finished at this time. After this they will be able to start work on X characters in MCU.
I think Tatum and Co will try to pitch it for Disney.
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Looks like that site is listing all movies that were announced, but haven’t been officially cancelled. I’m not so sure about New Mutants anymore either. Did they finish the massive results they were planning?
Pitching it again to Disney is probably the most logical course. Though I don’t really know how receptive Disney will be... :/
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New Rumor that the Gambit movie is likely dead
https://www.cbr.com/x-force-gambit-doctor-doom-films-dead/ (https://www.cbr.com/x-force-gambit-doctor-doom-films-dead/)
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New Rumor that the Gambit movie is likely dead
https://www.cbr.com/x-force-gambit-doctor-doom-films-dead/ (https://www.cbr.com/x-force-gambit-doctor-doom-films-dead/)
when the producer /star says he has no idea if the film will ever get made...then shaves his head -the movies done. They blew it. What a waste.
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I suppose it is still a rumor, but it’s a pretty logical rumor. Because, yeah...Tatum’s not even talking about it anymore and he was practythe driving force behind it. I think the rumor said pretty much all the ‘side’ movies have been scrapped, which also makes sense. I’m still not sure if New Mutants actually get finished/released...
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I suppose it is still a rumor, but it’s a pretty logical rumor. Because, yeah...Tatum’s not even talking about it anymore and he was practythe driving force behind it. I think the rumor said pretty much all the ‘side’ movies have been scrapped, which also makes sense. I’m still not sure if New Mutants actually get finished/released...
Yeah, this guy could even be making stuff up but he'd only be doing it based on what's likely to happen.
I'm sure things are just up in the air now, with the Disney/Fox deal. But that's rumored to be done around the end of Feb or March, so hopefully we get some answers soon
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https://deadline.com/2019/01/channing-tatum-exits-uta-management-360-1202538067/ (https://deadline.com/2019/01/channing-tatum-exits-uta-management-360-1202538067/)
He has long been slotted to play the charming card-throwing mutant, and buzz has been that he might direct the film after several other filmmakers have been in and out.
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Kinda ot. But Channing Tatum dropped his agent https://deadline.com/2019/01/channing-tatum-exits-uta-management-360-1202538067/ (https://deadline.com/2019/01/channing-tatum-exits-uta-management-360-1202538067/) no wonder..this guys movie career has stalled. One site theorizing HE might direct gambit lll
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IN WEIRD NEWS: We had heard that all the Fox X-Men films and spin-offs were canceled but there was a recent production listing for #Gambit (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Gambit?src=hash) that was updated TODAY stating production begins Feb 14th ...just something to keep an eye on...production dates have been pushed since 16'
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dw7L8JlU0AAIA7d.jpg:large)
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I would be not against Tatum directing the film but chances of seeing this movie is very slim. Still I do admire his passion for the project.
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I would be not against Tatum directing the film but chances of seeing this movie is very slim. Still I do admire his passion for the project.
I feel the same.
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https://deadline.com/2019/01/channing-tatum-exits-uta-management-360-1202538067/ (https://deadline.com/2019/01/channing-tatum-exits-uta-management-360-1202538067/)
He has long been slotted to play the charming card-throwing mutant, and buzz has been that he might direct the film after several other filmmakers have been in and out.
Way too late for that.
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I see this gained more steam than when I first posted it ...Find it weird he dropped hos agent without finding a new one
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It's like spinning wheels in the mud or too much snow. Are we still flirting with the idea of a film, is it actually happening or are fans being strung along.
I think by this time, I'd like something concrete needed to stated. :crazy2:
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I guess their still flirting with the idea...but that date is in less than a month... I guess we won’t have to wait long to see if that one’s true...
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If Tatum wants to direct it...well I dunno if I'm happy with a Gambit movie being somebody's directorial debut. At this point, if the movie does go ahead, and that's a very big IF, then I reckon they need a new actor. Tatum's too old by this point.
Buuuuuuuuuut yeah I stand by my opinion that this movie is dead in the water. No haircut or lack thereof is going to convince my otherwise!
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The producer says What happens to Gambit is up to Disney now https://heroichollywood.com/x-men-gambit-channing-tatum-development/ (https://heroichollywood.com/x-men-gambit-channing-tatum-development/)
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Speaking of Gambit, our friends over at ThePlaylist (https://theplaylist.net/new-mutants-theatrical-streaming-gambit-fate-20190204/) have added a nifty little tidbit to the “Channing Tatum wants to direct Gambit story” as they report that Tatum wanted to co-direct with producing/writing partner Reid Carolin (Magic Mike), who had been rewriting the script over the last year or so. Also, that they had approached Steven Soderbergh multiple times to direct but turned them down repeatedly.can confirm I’ve heard that’s true and that Tatum was hoping to co-direct the film with his friend and producer, director and screenwriter Reid Carolin, who wrote “Magic Mike,” “Magic Mike XXL” and has developed many projects with Tatum ever since. Tatum and Carolin, who have worked closely with Steven Soderbergh since “Magic Mike” (Carolin also produced “Logan Lucky”), tried in vain over the last year-plus to coax the “Sex, Lies, and Videotape” and “Out Of Sight” filmmaker to helm “Gambit” many times, but superhero films are just not his bag and he turned his friend down politely every time. Reid and Carolin had hoped to direct “Gambit” and tried in vain to get it off the ground, but with Marvel/Disney approaching, that plan is likely going to fade away if it hasn’t already.https://hnentertainment.co/x-men-producer-reveals-projects-in-development-are-in-the-hands-of-disney-marvel-and-steven-soderbergh-reportedly-turned-down-gambit/ (https://hnentertainment.co/x-men-producer-reveals-projects-in-development-are-in-the-hands-of-disney-marvel-and-steven-soderbergh-reportedly-turned-down-gambit/)
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https://www.newsarama.com/43770-x-men-producer-calls-fate-of-gambit-new-mutants-in-question.html
more from Donner , basically she reckons its up to Disney&Marvel
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Best thing that could happen right now, guys? Marvel and Disney reboot X-men with the same love and care they treated The Avengers with. Best thing on top of that? Gambit gets a prominent role in said reboot. Sad thing is though, there are so many X-men to choose from, the chances of Gambit being a core member are slim. Other sad thing is that this would be YEARS away.
Anyway, if it were to happen I hope they'd take a grittier, darker tone for the X-Men. Avengers already has light-hearted covered.
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Who knows what Feige planned. I am sure that he won't allow not his ideas in MCU.
Maybe he will really like Tatum's pith for Gambit and will rework it for MCu from start.
I think we will hear more soon.
I think if Tatum will stay as Gambit, they will give him a fine role.
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Fox only had 20 years to do something with Gambit.
We'll see with MCU, hopefully we won't be stuck with any arrogant Gambit-hating writers on these projects. If they want something fresh and new...they can take advantage of the lack of Gambit in the Fox films and use him as a big player rather than JUST Wolverine...and maybe bump up Sinister too while they're at it.
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Screw the Gambit haters. Most of them have barely even read any comics with Gambit in them. I think at this point the best bet is to hope Gambit appears in an X-men team movie.
Sinister could definitely be the big villain in an Xmen movie. He has the power, personality, and they have yet to use him so it would be a unique original Xmen movie.
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When asked if the film was supposed to be a heist movie, Wyatt actually likened his version more to The Godfather and revealed it would have been set partially in the 1970s:“Yeah [a heist film] of a sort. I mean it was a period film. It dealt with the 70s up until the present day. It was about kind of mutant gangs and the notion of what it means to belong, tribalism in this bayou-like environment. The swamps of New Orleans. So it would’ve been a lot of fun. I know Channing sort of worked on the script to make it into more of a romantic comedy, I think. Which I read and it was great, it was very different to what I was involved in. But now Disney have the reins so I don’t know what their plans are.”
http://collider.com/gambit-movie-details-rupert-wyatt/ (http://collider.com/gambit-movie-details-rupert-wyatt/)
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When asked if the film was supposed to be a heist movie, Wyatt actually likened his version more to The Godfather and revealed it would have been set partially in the 1970s:“Yeah [a heist film] of a sort. I mean it was a period film. It dealt with the 70s up until the present day. It was about kind of mutant gangs and the notion of what it means to belong, tribalism in this bayou-like environment. The swamps of New Orleans. So it would’ve been a lot of fun. I know Channing sort of worked on the script to make it into more of a romantic comedy, I think. Which I read and it was great, it was very different to what I was involved in. But now Disney have the reins so I don’t know what their plans are.”
http://collider.com/gambit-movie-details-rupert-wyatt/ (http://collider.com/gambit-movie-details-rupert-wyatt/)
The concept alone makes it different than any other superhero movie that was ever made. I really wished that this movie had gotten made.
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The concept alone makes it different than any other superhero movie that was ever made. I really wished that this movie had gotten made.
Me too.
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Simon kinburg says he thinks and hopes gambit will get made WITH tatum . Disney is looking at what to make https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2ogkZOUkAAdjX2.jpg (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2ogkZOUkAAdjX2.jpg)
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Found this today .... via twitter.
https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2469252/disney-is-deciding-what-to-do-with-the-gambit-movie
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Kinberg's words on Gambit are irrelevant now. Fox have had 20 years to do something with him, all talk no action.
Hopefully the MCU will broaden their imagination and flesh out other characters that aren't Wolverine and Magneto.
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And put Mystique in limbo or at least in character.
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Not sure if how true this is, but this guy says he's read the script and he gave a breakdown of it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelatFox/comments/bl2hkr/script_breakdown_gambit_by_joshua_zetumer/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelatFox/comments/bl2hkr/script_breakdown_gambit_by_joshua_zetumer/)
Not gonna lie, I've gotten apathetic about the Gambit movie (at least Tatum as Gambit), but this sounds pretty interesting. I think the third act could use some revisions, though.
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Interesting. Sounds interesting.
It is draft for 2015.
A lot of things since that were changed. We will probably never hear or see Tatum's final version.
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Looks like the Gambit film is officially dead
https://www.cbr.com/fox-final-x-men-films-cut-disney-schedule/ (https://www.cbr.com/fox-final-x-men-films-cut-disney-schedule/)
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I don't think any of us should be surprised. At least it isn't just his film that is cancelled.
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Yup, hopefully this just means they have plans for him in the MCU
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That new mutants movie got pushed back another year.
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That new mutants movie got pushed back another year.
By time the movie comes out the actors will be nearly 3 years older than when they shot it... I think it's going to be a Hulu or Disney+ release
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Well, I was suddenly wondering what's happening with the movie.
Found this: https://www.screengeek.net/2019/10/14/gambit-movie-update-doug-liman/ (https://www.screengeek.net/2019/10/14/gambit-movie-update-doug-liman/).
I'm not surprised really. :(
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Liman was 2nd director and fired. Why someone would tell him any updates if they have 3d director after him?
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Liman was 2nd director and fired. Why someone would tell him any updates if they have 3d director after him?
Exactly. I've seen this "news" popping up in a lot of different articles. Now I think we all pretty much have the understanding that this project, the way it's existed anyway, is over and we shouldn't be expecting it at this point. But what the hell would Doug Liman know about it? He dropped out a long time ago and has not been attached in any way for years. In fact there was a director hired after him and he left too. So I'm not really sure how Doug Liman would have any inside information at this point. The misinformation about this project in the media continues even after it's dead.
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Gambit With Channing Tatum Still Might Happen · John Campea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adzCettaPAw&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adzCettaPAw&feature=youtu.be)
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Gambit to be rebooted in MCU without Tatum
https://www.google.com/amp/s/wegotthiscovered.com/movies/gambit-rebooted-mcu-channing-tatum/amp/ (https://www.google.com/amp/s/wegotthiscovered.com/movies/gambit-rebooted-mcu-channing-tatum/amp/)
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It's alright. Channing was getting too old for the part. I applaud his love for the character and without him, the idea might never have been considered with the TPTB anyway.
At least its not a done concept. Just a different direction. I'm okay with that.
Harris Dickinson doesn't look like Gambit to me but I don't think I would be happy with anyone at this point. I guess we'll have to see what transpires.
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Not surprised. As soon as directers kept cycling out you knew it was becoming less and less likely as the Fox/Marvel merger came along. Too Bad Channing's passion for the character didn't get rewarded. Excited if they have plans for a younger Gambit near the beginning of his thieving career. Blame is on Fox. They should have put more effort into the project instead of Age of Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix which killed all momentum that was building with the X-Films post Days of future past and Logan.
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Well at least this is actual exciting news that we are likely to see Gambit very early on in the future MCU X-Men universe. I just really feel bad for Channing Tatum. The guy had so much passion and considered it his dream role. Regardless of how you thought Tatum would do in the role, as a Gambit fan, you have to have love for him. He literally put his booming career on hold for years to see this project through and he's not going to get rewarded for his loyalty. It really sucks. For him and for us as I personally feel he was going to knock it out of the park and really surprise people.
I wonder if this means they are actually considering a solo film for him or series or it just means he will be in the X-Men films right from the start. Any of it is good news. I also don't love the look of Harris Dickinson and I really don't want them to go with the little pretty boy look for Gambit. I see Gambit as rugged, sexy, and badass. Not a teen idol. But all in all it's nice to get these rumors for the future of a live action Gambit.
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Well at least this is actual exciting news that we are likely to see Gambit very early on in the future MCU X-Men universe. I just really feel bad for Channing Tatum. The guy had so much passion and considered it his dream role. Regardless of how you thought Tatum would do in the role, as a Gambit fan, you have to have love for him. He literally put his booming career on hold for years to see this project through and he's not going to get rewarded for his loyalty. It really sucks. For him and for us as I personally feel he was going to knock it out of the park and really surprise people.
I wonder if this means they are actually considering a solo film for him or series or it just means he will be in the X-Men films right from the start. Any of it is good news. I also don't love the look of Harris Dickinson and I really don't want them to go with the little pretty boy look for Gambit. I see Gambit as rugged, sexy, and badass. Not a teen idol. But all in all it's nice to get these rumors for the future of a live action Gambit.
I completely agree about Tatum. Appreciate everything he did. He tried his best. I am sure that he would be amazing Gambit and was born to play his part. Sad that we won`t see it. He seems like a really nice guy. I wish him all the best and I hope he is happy no matter what.
I hope young Gambit rumour is true. Harris Dickinson or similar guy will work as young Gambit. I am sure he would be more like charming bastard or something like villain maybe so we will see redemption arc for him. Something like Loki.
It is like too early for casting Gambit news. I don`t expect X-Men movie soon. But maybe they want to introduce X characters in other movies beofre first X team movie.
Ant Man 3 is rumoured for 2022. Maybe Gambit will be intoduced there.
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I think my perfect Gambit MCU introduction would be him joining X-Men as mysterious new POV character.
Would like to see him as Sinister agent infiltrating X-Men to destroy them from inside.
If they will ever make Gambit solo movie or Disney+ series then I want Gambit with Guilds and Bella in Nola. Assassins, Thieves, cryminal world with their own traditions, clubs, own currency and other things. Like John Wick.
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I do feel for Tatum. He was never my first pick, but he was very enthusiastic and pushed the project. That said, I’m all for a younger gambit and being in the X-men movie. Hopefully that site is reliable and their not just making stuff up.
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It's early but knowing that Gambit might be in the first group of x-characters to show up in the MCU is very exciting.
I feel bad for Tatum, although he was never my first choice I came to accept his casting because the only reason that solo movie was going to happen in the first place was because of Tatum and he seemed very passionate for the project. I’d wanted that movie to happen for a long time, however since it didn’t pan out it’s time to let it go. Tatum was too old all along anyway. I’m all for a young actor.
Don’t really like Harris Dickinson’s look, I don’t think it fits Gambit but great to see Marvel is looking for young promising actors for the role. I can totally see Marvel going for a pretty boy look with Gambit due to its young audience. At this point, I’m just excited for more news to start to drop. The next few years will be a long wait.
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Thanks for supporting my Gambit vs Bishop idea. Just seems like a natural fit for a movie. Foxx as Bishop would be interesting as I can see him and Tatum having good chemistry. Not sure though if Foxx can rock dreds, lol.
After watching Project Power I believe Jamie Foxx would be the perfect Bishop for what we imagined lol.
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Jamie Foxx is a little small for Bishop no?
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You’re going to have hard time finding actors that fit the ‘big’ comic character, lol.
I thought the guy who played bishop in days of future past looked great (don’t know if he can act since he didn’t get any lines...)
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You’re going to have hard time finding actors that fit the ‘big’ comic character, lol.
Ummm I disagree. You might not find an actor who is the perfect 6'6 that Bishop is but I'm sure you can find an actor who is a bit bigger and could match physically better than the 5'9 Jamie Foxx.
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The magic of film-making makes it pretty easy to make an actor seem bigger than they are in real life.
I think Foxx would be an excellent choice for Bishop!
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I'm sure Jamie Foxx would be very good. But he's not the only actor out there and I like the characters to resemble themselves from the comics. And 5'9 is a huge difference from 6'6. He's closer to Wolverines size than Bishop. They're not going to make him look like he's the biggest character in the cast. He's a good actor but there's plenty of options out there that will visually look way better in the role.
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Yeah also chalk me up as a fan of Foxx, but feel he's too small to play Bishop.
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I also like Jamie Foxx but definitely think they could find a better fit for the character easily.
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Fair enough, but I'll take acting ability and screen presence over... height requirements, any day. Didn't know Foxx was 5'9". Not an ideal for Bishop but if you want to get technical then the actor shouldn't be black at all as Bishop is aboriginal - Marvel simply portrays him as a black man. And no, I don't extend the classification of "black" to any brown skinned person with similar attributes as those crackpots over on CBR. Sorry I went through that insulting over there.
Anything thing we've gotten on film is an adaptation not a carbon copy. Sometimes they hit the nail with dead likeliness as they did with Pat Stewart, Ian, and Kelsey Grammer but then you have departures like Hugh's Wolverine and Josh Brolin's Cable that work out legendarily. I wouldn't get too held up on this because I guarantee you the MCU version of the X-Men is probably going to upset you.
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Fair enough, but I'll take acting ability and screen presence over... height requirements, any day. Didn't know Foxx was 5'9". Not an ideal for Bishop but if you want to get technical then the actor shouldn't be black at all as Bishop is aboriginal - Marvel simply portrays him as a black man. And no, I don't extend the classification of "black" to any brown skinned person with similar attributes as those crackpots over on CBR. Sorry I went through that insulting over there.
Anything thing we've gotten on film is an adaptation not a carbon copy. Sometimes they hit the nail with dead likeliness as they did with Pat Stewart, Ian, and Kelsey Grammer but then you have departures like Hugh's Wolverine and Josh Brolin's Cable that work out legendarily. I wouldn't get too held up on this because I guarantee you the MCU version of the X-Men is probably going to upset you.
Yeah, I have a feeling most MCU stuff, going forward, will upset me. I already take s*** because I don't like the Guardians of the Galaxy and feel they're stupid, thought Black Panther was overrated and dull, thought Ant-Man and the Wasp was a joke, HATE HATE Captain Marvel, and hate MCU Spider-man/Ironboy. X-Men will likely be no different.
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Yeah, I have a feeling most MCU stuff, going forward, will upset me. I already take s*** because I don't like the Guardians of the Galaxy and feel they're stupid, thought Black Panther was overrated and dull, thought Ant-Man and the Wasp was a joke, HATE HATE Captain Marvel, and hate MCU Spider-man/Ironboy. X-Men will likely be no different.
I actually binge watched the MCU movies earlier this year (because I was so behind). A bit of a chore to go through those, SOME movies were good, but a lot of them were very same-ish and meh...Captain Marvel, I didn't like, Black Panther was overrated, I agree. The standouts were CA: Winter Soldier, Thor: Ragnarok and the first Guardians...and Iron Man.
You mentioned Ant-Man and Wasp, which I didn't like those movies at all...but I have a gut feeling that Gambit will probably be the "Ant-Man" of the MCU X-Men...that or Star-Lord. It'll be more in line with comedy more than anything. That said, even the darkest MCU movie felt like sit-com with special effects.
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You mentioned Ant-Man and Wasp, which I didn't like those movies at all...but I have a gut feeling that Gambit will probably be the "Ant-Man" of the MCU X-Men...that or Star-Lord. It'll be more in line with comedy more than anything. That said, even the darkest MCU movie felt like sit-com with special effects.
I totally agree. This is what I've been worried about. That they'll just turn Gambit into the X-Men's version of Ant-Man or Starlord. Remy Lebeau is not a goofball and a simpleton. I would love to believe that they would not reduce his character like that. I mean, Ant-Man and Starlord needed to be punched up for films probably but Gambit is a much more fleshed out character with a unique personality. But with the woke agenda we see nowadays, I am definitely worried they'll reduce him to a lovable idiot. But I certainly hope I'm wrong.
This may be an unpopular take but, I think Hugh Jackman is lucky and was just the right guy in the right place. I don't think Hugh Jackman brought anything to the role that a ton of other people couldn't have done. The absolute love he gets from everyone is a mix of longevity(the man has played the role for 20 years) the fact that Wolverine is one of the biggest characters in all of Marvel and isn't very hard to play. With the right couple hairstyles, grumbly voice, and a few competently acted scenes, you will be loved. My point is, I think there are plenty of actors out there for these roles and I don't feel I have to have my mind stuck on one person because I know they're a good actor.
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Yeah, I have a feeling most MCU stuff, going forward, will upset me. I already take s*** because I don't like the Guardians of the Galaxy and feel they're stupid, thought Black Panther was overrated and dull, thought Ant-Man and the Wasp was a joke, HATE HATE Captain Marvel, and hate MCU Spider-man/Ironboy. X-Men will likely be no different.
I didn't mind GotG 1, it was goofy but sort of fun. GotG2 all I can think is wtf! Didn't anyone write a script or just used lyrics from 70's songs Brandi by Looking Glass and The Chain by Fleetwood Mac. More so the Brandi song, the whole script was too closely based on it. The fact they wasted time with both songs more than once in the film is really disappointing.
Agree about Ant-Man and Wasp. I haven't seen Captain Marvel yet and the only thing I'm looking forward to if I do watch it is the cat. Doesn't say much. Black Panther just another introduction film to me, the same Doc Strange. I didn't like any of the Thor movies but the first one. I did like the Avengers1 but I didn't like the two wrap up films, they both pissed me off. I don't like cliff hangers for one (Avengers Infinity War), and then the craptascular ending in End Game.
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I do expect an increase in jokes, but that’s alright because he does have sense of humor. It will depend on how far it goes.
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I do expect an increase in jokes, but that’s alright because he does have sense of humor. It will depend on how far it goes.
All for him making jokes. Not for him being a joke.
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That said, as flawed as the MCU films are. The idea of an MCU Gambit that makes solid contributions to the franchise (maybe even a solo film) will beat the hell out of what we got from Fox. So I'd take that any day of the week.
Let's face it, it all reflects on the comics. It's no coincidence that Gambit's profile diminished ever since 'X-Men' came out in 2000. In 1999-early 2000 he had a solo title (that was successful in sales) and he lead Uncanny X-Men. Then Quesada took over wanting to get movie fans into comics and that was the beginning of the end. Fox kept dishing out Wolverine films called 'X-Men' ...and we got books saturated with Wolverine.
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I didn't mind GotG 1, it was goofy but sort of fun. GotG2 all I can think is wtf! Didn't anyone write a script or just used lyrics from 70's songs Brandi by Looking Glass and The Chain by Fleetwood Mac. More so the Brandi song, the whole script was too closely based on it. The fact they wasted time with both songs more than once in the film is really disappointing.
Agree about Ant-Man and Wasp. I haven't seen Captain Marvel yet and the only thing I'm looking forward to if I do watch it is the cat. Doesn't say much. Black Panther just another introduction film to me, the same Doc Strange. I didn't like any of the Thor movies but the first one. I did like the Avengers1 but I didn't like the two wrap up films, they both pissed me off. I don't like cliff hangers for one (Avengers Infinity War), and then the craptascular ending in End Game.
I loved GotG vol 1. Vol 2 was still fine, but some scenes were ridiculous (the pac-man morphing, throwing David Hassalhoff in there) I mean just cheap laughs, it's a Disney thing I guess. Infinity War and Endgame, I've only seen once and that was enough for me, I actually don't remember a lot of what happened. I have no desire to see those multiple times whereas a lot of people do.
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I totally agree. This is what I've been worried about. That they'll just turn Gambit into the X-Men's version of Ant-Man or Starlord. Remy Lebeau is not a goofball and a simpleton. I would love to believe that they would not reduce his character like that. I mean, Ant-Man and Starlord needed to be punched up for films probably but Gambit is a much more fleshed out character with a unique personality. But with the woke agenda we see nowadays, I am definitely worried they'll reduce him to a lovable idiot. But I certainly hope I'm wrong.
What does an alleged "woke agenda" have to do with them reducing him to a "lovable idiot"? I am so confused as to what one has to do with the other.
Also, let's not get pessimistic for no reason. I think the MCU has done quite well interpreting characters up to this point. I see no reason to believe that Gambit would be some special exception to the rule. Also, Gambit definitely has his share of goofball in him. See: Fabian Nicieza's run. Gambit, imo, is at his best when he is a proper mix of goofball and serious. He hasn't really been only dark and broody since the early 90's when Claremont had him. And I don't want to go back to that Gambit.
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What does an alleged "woke agenda" have to do with them reducing him to a "lovable idiot"? I am so confused as to what one has to do with the other.
Also, let's not get pessimistic for no reason. I think the MCU has done quite well interpreting characters up to this point. I see no reason to believe that Gambit would be some special exception to the rule. Also, Gambit definitely has his share of goofball in him. See: Fabian Nicieza's run. Gambit, imo, is at his best when he is a proper mix of goofball and serious. He hasn't really been only dark and broody since the early 90's when Claremont had him. And I don't want to go back to that Gambit.
Well, let me try to explain. Gambit is a straight white male who is cunning, morally ambiguous, and a ladies man. Characters like that seem to be deemed "problematic" now-a-days. So I have a worry that they'll want to change him a bit to try to make him less edgy and more lovable by making him dopey. Like Ant-Man and Starlord. Those are morally questionable "charming" characters as well but are un-threatening and silly. I just hope they don't turn Gambit into one of them so he seems more PC. The way they do things now I have concern they will mess him up. A couple years ago I would have been totally confident.
By the way "goofball" is not a way I would ever describe Gambit. Unless he's written poorly. Gambit has a sharp wit, a sense of humor and sarcasm and can be very fun. But he's not a dummy. Even in his early years he had all these qualities. He's too slick to be a goofball like Peter Quill and Scott Lang. And if you start him off with "goofball" qualities it'll just get worse really fast. Some of the MCU characters have become really silly over time.
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Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!
I'm still alive and kicking (for anyone that cares ;) ). Just been busy and with the Gambit movie being stuck in a limbo, I kind of moved on.... (and started a business in Graphic Design! Yeah, well... enough about that, um... hehe)
Last week, in a spur of the moment, I went to check online for any news about the movie, and I stumbled this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NegUHlzn_qs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NegUHlzn_qs)
It's a fan film, 20 minutes long, but I thought it was pretty interesting...
And that's my contribution for this year. :P
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We are all aware of it and it's great it's past 3.2 million views already.
https://www.cbr.com/marvel-sidelined-xmen-characters-deserve-reboot/ (https://www.cbr.com/marvel-sidelined-xmen-characters-deserve-reboot/)
Heres a list cbr made of characters who need a proper reboot in the movies. Very happy with their #1 choice.
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Well, let me try to explain. Gambit is a straight white male who is cunning, morally ambiguous, and a ladies man. Characters like that seem to be deemed "problematic" now-a-days. So I have a worry that they'll want to change him a bit to try to make him less edgy and more lovable by making him dopey. Like Ant-Man and Starlord. Those are morally questionable "charming" characters as well but are un-threatening and silly. I just hope they don't turn Gambit into one of them so he seems more PC. The way they do things now I have concern they will mess him up. A couple years ago I would have been totally confident.
By the way "goofball" is not a way I would ever describe Gambit. Unless he's written poorly. Gambit has a sharp wit, a sense of humor and sarcasm and can be very fun. But he's not a dummy. Even in his early years he had all these qualities. He's too slick to be a goofball like Peter Quill and Scott Lang. And if you start him off with "goofball" qualities it'll just get worse really fast. Some of the MCU characters have become really silly over time.
Gambit once mused about being a king geek and makes Star Trek references. He's goofy asf. He is also sarcastic, cunning, intelligent, and an all-around badass. He can be (and often is) all of those things at once. Like any good character, he is multifaceted.
I see no reason why the MCU would do worse with him than any other character they've already done. They've done well so far, so I guess I just don't see any cause for skepticism. But we may just have to disagree on this point, because I also don't believe that white men are under some kind of secret, nefarious attack in comic books.
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Gambit once mused about being a king geek and makes Star Trek references. He's goofy asf. He is also sarcastic, cunning, intelligent, and an all-around badass. He can be (and often is) all of those things at once. Like any good character, he is multifaceted.
I see no reason why the MCU would do worse with him than any other character they've already done. They've done well so far, so I guess I just don't see any cause for skepticism. But we may just have to disagree on this point, because I also don't believe that white men are under some kind of secret, nefarious attack in comic books.
Unfortunately, he's also a LSU fan.
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Unfortunately, he's also a LSU fan.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BTg1Y9ypCxU/WpV1143A9rI/AAAAAAAAhbo/smu3jO93V4YE50JOFsWhhyk8BSbcahZBgCEwYBhgL/s1600/X-Men%2B%2528vol.%2B2%2529%2B%252328%2B-%2BLong%2BLost%2BBrother.png)
Andy Kubert's fashion choices that issue have always irked me.
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Agreed x 1,000!
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Gambit once mused about being a king geek and makes Star Trek references. He's goofy asf. He is also sarcastic, cunning, intelligent, and an all-around badass. He can be (and often is) all of those things at once. Like any good character, he is multifaceted.
I see no reason why the MCU would do worse with him than any other character they've already done. They've done well so far, so I guess I just don't see any cause for skepticism. But we may just have to disagree on this point, because I also don't believe that white men are under some kind of secret, nefarious attack in comic books.
Well we're going to have to agree to disagree a lot then. I've made my points pretty clear on this. It's simple, if they wind up making Gambit goofy along the lines of Starlord or Ant-Man I will be disappointed. And I disagree that Gambit is "goofy af". We can all point to this or that in the comics to support a case. Hell, I can point to specific comics and say Gambit is a sad depressed character who let's others treat him like a jerk. That's not what I want to see in the movies. And a bumbling goofball is not how I want to see him portrayed either. We have enough of that. Gambit is the chance for something different from a character.
And if you'd payed attention to a lot of content creators, writers, movie producers etc you would pretty clearly see there is nothing secret about it. Ghostbusters(2016), Star Wars, Terminator, Birds of Prey, Charlies Angels, Ocean's 8, the Star Trek Series Discovery and Picard have all suffered for the sake of forcing "progressive" ideas over good plot, story, and characters. The MCU has been criticized for having too many straight white male heroes and not enough diversity. They have talked about catering more towards those criticisms and I have legitimate concern on how it's going to affect Gambit's character and place in things going forward. I hope my concerns get completely wiped away and they do great job with Gambit and make us all proud with his portrayal and introduce new audiences to him. But I do have some concern.
One thing that would boost my confidence through the roof, would be if rumors are true that Kevin Feige is a big Gambit fan. If that is true I don't think we have to worry about someone coming in and carelessly handling the character and screwing him up.
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blasphemy incoming! LOL
Blame Nicieza and Claremont for the goof ball stuff. Fabian with Buffy and Star Trek and Claremont for changing Gambit's last name to Picard in one of his AU books that had Gambit in it. I think anyway for Fabian, I remember a panel with Professor X talking to Gambit and he had popcorn in his hands and was watching Buffy. If I have the wrong writer, apologies.
I never liked Buffy, dumb movie and show was total angst. I'm out when the angst meter is too much and if its on CW, might as not bother.
I don't want a joke of a movie.
Why not a good heist or suspense type thing? That would work, use Gambit's background.
My quarters worth anyway. :gambit:
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Gambit's personality is... complex. At his core, Gambit is intensely cocky, brash, witty but very cerebral. Gambit does show "goofiness" but often that part of him is a mask. Some might say he's confident to the point of arrogance, but again, its not what is at his core. That's an air he puts out so what's really going on doesn't show. In reality, Gambit is extremely self-conscious. Not that he doesn't believe that he's attractive. No. He knows very well what he looks like. Its far more about his worthiness to be in the company of heroes and good people as he doesn't believe that he is in truth a "good person" or truly an honorable man. Not that he's done anything in the present to prove this - but as we all know - he's got a messy past full of mistakes, wrong turns and overall a shadowy origin where he's not even sure if he was conceived through love or for some nefarious reason such as ending the world.
It's probably why he hold onto Rogue so tightly, not just because he loves her - but because she anchors him. Like most X-Men he recognizes her virtue (>.>) and hopes that it will act as his North star. Not that he doesn't know better, but because I believe he thinks she won't allow him to steer to far of course (oh... that was good.). At the same time - he is a bit of nerd like the rest of us. He's a Trekkie, obviously has read or watched the Harry Porter series and like Nightcrawler enjoys a highflying, swashbuckling lifestyle. Not sure why they don't adventure together more often. There's a tight rope to writing him. He's not the clownish one-dimensional loser these uber-nerd 80s obsessed writers make him out to be. The best iteration of Gambit I've seen thus far was from an unrealized movie script (2015). Hopefully Disney/Marvel takes some pointers from that work.
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Well we're going to have to agree to disagree a lot then. I've made my points pretty clear on this. It's simple, if they wind up making Gambit goofy along the lines of Starlord or Ant-Man I will be disappointed.
StarLord and Ant-Man are played by actors who specialise in comedy. The same for Thor- Hemsworth tried playing it serious in the first two Thor movies, but he's more fun as an actor when he's playing to his comedic strengths. If 30-something Daniel Day-Lewis had been cast in the same role with the same script he'd have given a completely different performance. The snippets of Eric Stolz's performance as Marty McFly (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ2owR6-lhM&ab_channel=I%27mJustATheory%21) are a really good example of the difference casting makes.
And I disagree that Gambit is "goofy af". We can all point to this or that in the comics to support a case. Hell, I can point to specific comics and say Gambit is a sad depressed character who let's others treat him like a jerk. That's not what I want to see in the movies. And a bumbling goofball is not how I want to see him portrayed either. We have enough of that. Gambit is the chance for something different from a character.
I don't think anyone wants him played like Kramer from Seinfeld.
And if you'd payed attention to a lot of content creators, writers, movie producers etc you would pretty clearly see there is nothing secret about it. Ghostbusters(2016), Star Wars, Terminator, Birds of Prey, Charlies Angels, Ocean's 8, the Star Trek Series Discovery and Picard have all suffered for the sake of forcing "progressive" ideas over good plot, story, and characters.
Having an equal amount of female characters to male characters is not being progressive. It's reflecting reality. You can pick out flops like Charlie's Angels or Terminator Dark Fate as examples of wokeness inevitably sinking movies, but every Terminator movie since 1992 has sucked and underperformed at the box office compared to the franchise's name recognition and the blame for 3 & 4 didn't focus on too many men and robots. Those movies sucking is a lot more to do with incompetence at the senior executive level across the film industry (see:Wild Wild West (https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/wild-wild-west-inside-story) and the guy at Fox who just didn't like the look of Galactus).
Birds of Prey is actually an enjoyable enough film, but whoever decided to release it under that title rather than 'Harley Quinn (and the Birds of Prey') is an idiot. 'Birds of Prey' has no name recognition. Most movie goers are low information and go by the poster and the title.
The MCU has been criticized for having too many straight white male heroes and not enough diversity. They have talked about catering more towards those criticisms and I have legitimate concern on how it's going to affect Gambit's character and place in things going forward. I hope my concerns get completely wiped away and they do great job with Gambit and make us all proud with his portrayal and introduce new audiences to him. But I do have some concern.
Why would it effect Gambit's character? CC and FabNic didn't write him as a creep or a loser. The 2015 Gambit script sticks pretty close to the Gambit vol. 2 version of the character (although, further to my points about the film industry above, I don't know how Fox could have marketed it).
One thing that would boost my confidence through the roof, would be if rumors are true that Kevin Feige is a big Gambit fan. If that is true I don't think we have to worry about someone coming in and carelessly handling the character and screwing him up.
Feige is a big X-fan and got his start producing on those movies. Gambit is one of a handful of characters who haven't been beaten to death by Fox, and he'd fit in with the street-level Falcon&TWS strand of the MCU as well as the superhero one.
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blasphemy incoming! LOL
Blame Nicieza and Claremont for the goof ball stuff. Fabian with Buffy and Star Trek and Claremont for changing Gambit's last name to Picard in one of his AU books that had Gambit in it. I think anyway for Fabian, I remember a panel with Professor X talking to Gambit and he had popcorn in his hands and was watching Buffy. If I have the wrong writer, apologies.
I never liked Buffy, dumb movie and show was total angst. I'm out when the angst meter is too much and if its on CW, might as not bother.
I don't want a joke of a movie.
Why not a good heist or suspense type thing? That would work, use Gambit's background.
My quarters worth anyway. :gambit:
GASP!!!!
You're dead to me.
Just kidding, but, Buffy is a great show, especially once Angel leaves. I admit the Buffy/Angel angst was insufferable. It's an odd show in that the first 3 seasons and the last 3 (with season 4 being a forgettable transition season) almost feel like two entirely different shows.
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GASP!!!!
I did warn all that blasphemy was incoming. LOL
You're dead to me.
*chuckles* I tried the show, I didn't get very far.
Just kidding, but, Buffy is a great show, especially once Angel leaves. I admit the Buffy/Angel angst was insufferable. It's an odd show in that the first 3 seasons and the last 3 (with season 4 being a forgettable transition season) almost feel like two entirely different shows.
I'll take your word for it. *wink*
back to Gambit .... I think a good script would be key.
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Jeez. I guess I'm going to have to respond to this.
StarLord and Ant-Man are played by actors who specialise in comedy. The same for Thor- Hemsworth tried playing it serious in the first two Thor movies, but he's more fun as an actor when he's playing to his comedic strengths. If 30-something Daniel Day-Lewis had been cast in the same role with the same script he'd have given a completely different performance. The snippets of Eric Stolz's performance as Marty McFly (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ2owR6-lhM&ab_channel=I%27mJustATheory%21) are a really good example of the difference casting makes.
Yep, that's certainly one thing that could mess things up that I have concern about. Another is the writing. You can absolutely write a character like a dope or have them do things out of character. Michael J Fox's Marty McFly and Daniel Day-Lewis(one of the greatest actors of all time) are not the greatest analogies. Gambit is a preexisting character with a ton of personality, lore, and fans already built in. Writing can absolutely make or break a character. And as Gambit fans I think we can all agree, Gambit requires some decent writing to do him justice. Like I said before, Chris Pratt and Paul Rudd kind of punched up their characters to make them fun. Gambit doesn't need that.
I don't think anyone wants him played like Kramer from Seinfeld.
Well, I guess we can all agree on that. ??? My point had a bit more nuance to it than that I believe.
Having an equal amount of female characters to male characters is not being progressive. It's reflecting reality. You can pick out flops like Charlie's Angels or Terminator Dark Fate as examples of wokeness inevitably sinking movies, but every Terminator movie since 1992 has sucked and underperformed at the box office compared to the franchise's name recognition and the blame for 3 & 4 didn't focus on too many men and robots. Those movies sucking is a lot more to do with incompetence at the senior executive level across the film industry (see:Wild Wild West (https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/wild-wild-west-inside-story) and the guy at Fox who just didn't like the look of Galactus).
Nobody(reasonable) has a problem with inclusivity and just generally having all different types of people in movies. It's when the people making the movie make their ideology the priority over good characters, story, and plot. Everyone loses when that's the case.
Charlie's Angels was a movie that was marketed to women but they got hung up on portraying the leads as tough, smart, and strong women taking on evil men to the point that they forgot to make them interesting and likeable. The movie bombed. Then the director took shots at men for not going to see it. Fun fact, more women went to see Rambo Last Blood in the theaters then saw Charlie's Angels.
The other sequels that came out after T2 and before Dark Fate are completely irrelevant here. Dark Fate was completely washing those away and directly following T2. Which general consensus has as one of the greatest action/sci fi films of all time. Seems like there is a lot of exciting things you could do there. Linda Hamilton was back who everyone loves as Sarah Connor. The first thing the movie does is kill 12 year old John Connor(the most important character in Terminator lore) right after the events of T2 making that movie pointless, just so they can introduce a female savior of the world. And that's exactly why they did it. Don't believe me just go look up interviews with Tim Miller and articles that came out about it at the time. They introduce a female good guy Terminator(kinda) so they can have an all female group. There were so many ideas you could go with following T2 that include Sarah and John Connor along with Arnold but because they had to make it "diverse" they had to dream up brand new characters and essentially just try to create the same movie. It flopped. Imagine if the first tease of Dark Fate was an image of Linda Hamilton, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Edward Furlong. The hype would've been next level.
Ghostbusters(2016) is barely worth mentioning. People never wanted a reboot and because the first trailer looked like garbage and everyone thought so, it became this weird rallying cry for women and feminism that everyone got in on from the cast, to the director, to the media who all got together to call all the fans "sexist", "man-babies", "basement dwelling losers" etc. It even got to the point where they insulted fans directly in the film multiple times. Media outlets and Twitter were all banding together to try make this film a success. All for this complete piece of trash film.
Star Wars. Kathleen Kennedy's goal from day one was to have the main hero to be a female and more females in the Star Wars universe in general. She wanted the main character to have innate goodness, ability, and powers. Again, you can look this up it's tru. The problem is, audiences whether female or male like their characters to have some type of journey and grow. It's why Luke Skywalker is so beloved. On to him. Because, Kennedy was so interested placing her ideology into Star Wars she didn't develop an over-arching plan for the trilogy. She just hired Rian Johnson for Last Jedi because she liked his ideas ideologically and let him do whatever he wanted. What resulted was the complete fracturing of Star Wars. Finns story was ignored for the introduction of Rose Tico. Poe learns the important lesson to always follow orders and never ask questions. Especially if the authority is female. And the complete deconstruction of one of the most recognizable and beloved heroes in film history, Luke Skywalker. Luke is a miserable, cranky, loser who has given up on his family and friends and just wants to die. He refuses to help Rey and is bested by her physically. And then he dies, really before he makes up for anything he has done.
The deconstruction of male characters leads into Star Trek Picard. This is what we do now. Deconstruct beloved male characters to make way for someone else. Not only is Picard berated by people about how he has failed or whatever. But the show brings in social topics from current times into the show that are completely out of place in the Star Trek universe. But the show wants it's woke points. The Star Trek shows are completely tanking because of this. Star Trek fans must be so bummed out.
Hell, even in Bill and Ted Face The Music, Bill and Ted are failures and it's not until they figure out it's their daughters who are responsible for the song and thus saving the universe.
These are just some examples. There's plenty more in movies, shows, comic books and video games. I don't think I'm saying anything outlandish here when I say there are content creators letting their personal views negatively affect their content. Even if their heart is in the right place, they wind up creating poor content and get defensive when people don't like it. It's the "woke" idea that's ruining these things because it's the main focus and I think a lot of people have a skewed idea of what it even is.
Birds of Prey is actually an enjoyable enough film, but whoever decided to release it under that title rather than 'Harley Quinn (and the Birds of Prey') is an idiot. 'Birds of Prey' has no name recognition. Most movie goers are low information and go by the poster and the title.
I actually hated this movie. It was a chore to sit through. It was basically their attempt at a female deadpool. But it was just a cheap imitation. It was ugly to look at. It wasn't funny. It also had a terrible promotional strategy. Name was terrible but it specifically promoted for a female audience. That was a big part of promotion. As it turned out it flopped and 80% of the audience that turned up for it was male. Some of these studios think they can rely on the female audiences for these comic book/action flicks and that audience just isn't there. And it was rated R so little girls couldn't even go. So dumb. I personally don't think Harley Quinn works as a solo character anyway. She's a good secondary character or even a co-star.
Why would it effect Gambit's character? CC and FabNic didn't write him as a creep or a loser. The 2015 Gambit script sticks pretty close to the Gambit vol. 2 version of the character (although, further to my points about the film industry above, I don't know how Fox could have marketed it).
I think it's fairly obvious. I've really explained this a few times by now. In this climate we're in and pressure on studios to be pc and woke, perhaps Gambit is less flirtatious. I mean imagine what Captain Marvel might do to him if he dared hit on her. Or let's say they pair him up with Rogue early on which is a high possibility. If they focus more on her and making her cool, badass, confident, and smart and it comes at the expense of Gambit's character, that would be really frustrating. Once again... That's why I worry about him being portrayed goofy/dumb charming like Ant-Man and Star Lord. Has this point been made yet? I mean Gambit's specialty is women. He knows how to play and work everyone whether it be friend or foe but he seems to really enjoy the game when it's a woman. That would be really fun on screen. But that might be deemed problematic. That would suck.
Feige is a big X-fan and got his start producing on those movies. Gambit is one of a handful of characters who haven't been beaten to death by Fox, and he'd fit in with the street-level Falcon&TWS strand of the MCU as well as the superhero one.
I totally agree. I think he is super versatile and would really be a breath of fresh air in this mcu with some focus on him. That's why I hope none of this nonsense is a factor with him or any of the X-Men.
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Gambit's personality is... complex...
... At the same time - he is a bit of nerd like the rest of us. He's a Trekkie, obviously has read or watched the Harry Porter series and like Nightcrawler enjoys a highflying, swashbuckling lifestyle.
Thank you! I will reiterate what I said before: Gambit - like all well-written characters - is multifaceted. Trying to deny his nerdy/goofy side is baffling to me. It doesn't lessen his appeal in any way. At this point, I think a lot of Gambit fans are so used to the character being misused/mishandled that they are pessimistic about everything even when there's really no reason to be.
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I don't think anyone wants him played like Kramer from Seinfeld.
Zactly. No one - and I mean no one - is saying that Gambit is some kind of clown or buffoon. But he definitely has a strong goofy/nerdy side. This is canon and so I'm not sure why some are so upset about it. It doesn't take away from him at all. Nicieza (who wrote most if not all of the goofiness) still managed to make Gambit a smart, sexy badass. If anything, it made him all the more three-dimensional. It humanizes him.
Having an equal amount of female characters to male characters is not being progressive. It's reflecting reality. You can pick out flops like Charlie's Angels or Terminator Dark Fate as examples of wokeness inevitably sinking movies, but every Terminator movie since 1992 has sucked and underperformed at the box office compared to the franchise's name recognition and the blame for 3 & 4 didn't focus on too many men and robots. Those movies sucking is a lot more to do with incompetence at the senior executive level across the film industry (see:Wild Wild West (https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/wild-wild-west-inside-story) and the guy at Fox who just didn't like the look of Galactus).
Birds of Prey is actually an enjoyable enough film, but whoever decided to release it under that title rather than 'Harley Quinn (and the Birds of Prey') is an idiot. 'Birds of Prey' has no name recognition. Most movie goers are low information and go by the poster and the title.
Thank you! I am sick of people pretending that the movies you mention flopped because they were "woke". Its such a lie. They flopped because they were either terrible movies (Charlie's Angels, T3 and T4) and/or because they were marketed incompetently (BoP). As I have mentioned before in this thread, movies like Black Panther are as woke as they come and have gone on to be MASSIVE, history-making hit movies. That alone blows the "go woke go broke" slogan out of the water. It is clearly something else. But some people choose to stick with their confirmation bias.
Why would it effect Gambit's character? CC and FabNic didn't write him as a creep or a loser. The 2015 Gambit script sticks pretty close to the Gambit vol. 2 version of the character (although, further to my points about the film industry above, I don't know how Fox could have marketed it).
Agreed. That Gambit was FabNic's Gambit and it was great. I really see no good reason to be concerned about MCU Gambit.
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Being one of the few people who liked Ant-Man and The Wasp, Walton Goggins as Sonny Burch is someone I'd love to see an MCU Gambit bump up against. There's a whole canon of criminals, thieves and mercenaries in the MCU that he'd fit into as a reappearing character (before becoming a big-gun X-Man). I hope that FATWS and maybe the Nick Fury show will delve into that world and give some key character intros.
Maybe Marvel will treat some key X-men the way they're treating The Thunderbolts. Hannah John-Kamen was wasted in AM&TW and Florence Pugh will get a limited amount of time in BW, but when Thunderbolts happens as a movie or D+ show those actors will get their due.
WeGotThisCovered is full of crap, BUT I still hold out hope they were on to something when they said that Marvel were looking at someone like Harris Dickinson as Gambit rather than a Channing Tatum-alike. Dickinson's on a Florence Pugh-esque career trajectory and is a versatile actor.
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If Disney wants a younger Gambit then I would love to see Tatum as Jean Luc Lebeau. I would be fine with Tatum as showrunner of D+ show too. I loved old script. It had a lot of golden Gambit stuff.
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That would be cool, as Jean luc or maybe henri (if he does want a long commitment, lol) Some kind of behind the scenes thing could be good to.
I also want Wesley snipes to be whistler in the blade movie. :p
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Thank you! I am sick of people pretending that the movies you mention flopped because they were "woke". Its such a lie. They flopped because they were either terrible movies (Charlie's Angels, T3 and T4) and/or because they were marketed incompetently (BoP). As I have mentioned before in this thread, movies like Black Panther are as woke as they come and have gone on to be MASSIVE, history-making hit movies. That alone blows the "go woke go broke" slogan out of the water. It is clearly something else. But some people choose to stick with their confirmation bias.
I think the problem comes from creatives setting out to make a 'woke' movie(or comic) rather than a good one. Thinking the wokeness will automatically make it good, at least in the only way that really matters to them. And then attacking and demonizing the audience and fans when they don't like it.
You can see a parallel with 'health food'. Most foods that use to be labeled 'health food' were so universally bad-tasting that decades of comedy has been mined from it across countless medias. When companies started making 'health food' that tasted good they had a to first convince a disbelieving public that was the case because that was the exception rather than the rule.
Companies like Marvel and DC have made things like 'diversity' and 'social justice' pejoratives and synonymous with bad because so much of what they put out that focuses on those things or is tailored to them is bad. While there are some exceptions like the Black Panther movie, because they are the exceptions, until that changes people will feel that proves the rule.
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Let me ask everyone a question. What do you think is the best way to introduce Gambit into the MCU? Not just for us as fans of him but for general audiences who might not be that familiar with Gambit.
Would it be best to introduce him into a show where they explain his background and his beginnings and show a portion of what he's gone through and then introduce him into the movies and have him around the other characters and part of a "team". While we, the audience, no what his history is but his new allies and teammates don't and aren't sure how much they trust him.
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Introduce him more like we experienced him in the comics. He shows up in the movies and starts working with allies and teammates and we, the audience, don't know much about him like the other characters in the movie. Then as time goes by we learn about his story. Possibly a show or movie comes out later on getting deeper into him.
Basically, do we want to know his backstory before he gets with the X-men so we can understand his past while his teammates can't or do we want him to be mysterious first and then his story comes out later on? Remember, think of this from a general audience perspective and not just as a Gambit fan. It could be interesting for some to genuinely not know what Gambit's agenda is.
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Best? Gambit as POV character of first X-Men team movie. Inflitrates X-Men to destroy them from indisde. Changes his motives towards the end of movie and decides to help X-Men and stay with them. Only small hints about backstory and a lot of coll and badass scenes.
Solo movie or D+ series about his past.
[size=78%]Then only at the end of second team movie X-Men will find out the truth and abandon him. [/size]
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Let me ask everyone a question. What do you think is the best way to introduce Gambit into the MCU? Not just for us as fans of him but for general audiences who might not be that familiar with Gambit.
Would it be best to introduce him into a show where they explain his background and his beginnings and show a portion of what he's gone through and then introduce him into the movies and have him around the other characters and part of a "team". While we, the audience, no what his history is but his new allies and teammates don't and aren't sure how much they trust him.
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Introduce him more like we experienced him in the comics. He shows up in the movies and starts working with allies and teammates and we, the audience, don't know much about him like the other characters in the movie. Then as time goes by we learn about his story. Possibly a show or movie comes out later on getting deeper into him.
Basically, do we want to know his backstory before he gets with the X-men so we can understand his past while his teammates can't or do we want him to be mysterious first and then his story comes out later on? Remember, think of this from a general audience perspective and not just as a Gambit fan. It could be interesting for some to genuinely not know what Gambit's agenda is.
I'd introduce him as already on the X-men team. I'd use a "show don't tell" strategy. Have Gambit be mostly background, quiet, seemingly stoic, so when he does talk, less is more, but his silent demeanor would that occasionally gives way to amusement, anger or flirtation. Show him as a bad ass, who gets less action screen time, but, when he does, his feats are most impressive/cool. Make him mysterious, slightly standoffish, but, unpredictable (in good and bad ways). Have the other X-men, save Storm, a little wary of him. Imply a fiction/rivalry between he and Wolverine where Gambit is implied to be dangerous/bad ass enough that Logan is a bit worried about him. If/when his past is broached, have it be vague, yet exciting, to build intrigue. Make him CONFIDENT at all times, a dark, roguish (no pun intended) guy who seems half invested in the team, but, kicks the most ass.
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Has anyone listened to the Wolverine podcast? I know the second season, The Lost Trail, is in NOLA and features Gambit. I haven’t tried it, I don’t usually listen to fictional podcasts. But a Gambit intro with Wolverine being the headliner would be pretty rad. Get people with Wolvie, who everyone knows, bring in Gambit for a foil/friend/adversary. Not a goofy buddy film, but maybe like the Victims mini. Inject humor in that they’re two different people with a different sense of style, approach to life, odd couple style (Logan, rugged lone wolf, in plaid flannel/Gambit, gregarious charmer in a pink shirt). Maybe they would get on each other’s nerves at first. Then begrudgingly respect one another.
It would also be in keeping with topics du jour, portraying positive male/male relationships.
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Let me ask everyone a question. What do you think is the best way to introduce Gambit into the MCU? Not just for us as fans of him but for general audiences who might not be that familiar with Gambit.
Would it be best to introduce him into a show where they explain his background and his beginnings and show a portion of what he's gone through and then introduce him into the movies and have him around the other characters and part of a "team". While we, the audience, no what his history is but his new allies and teammates don't and aren't sure how much they trust him.
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Introduce him more like we experienced him in the comics. He shows up in the movies and starts working with allies and teammates and we, the audience, don't know much about him like the other characters in the movie. Then as time goes by we learn about his story. Possibly a show or movie comes out later on getting deeper into him.
Basically, do we want to know his backstory before he gets with the X-men so we can understand his past while his teammates can't or do we want him to be mysterious first and then his story comes out later on? Remember, think of this from a general audience perspective and not just as a Gambit fan. It could be interesting for some to genuinely not know what Gambit's agenda is.
I'd have the X-Men have a need to acquire something, probably parts of a device/bits of technology. Gambit gets contracted to steal them, which brings him into conflict/competition with the X-Men. Throughout the story we see he isn't simply a thief and an adversary but has redeeming qualities, and ultimately sides with he X-Men against his employer, eventually becoming an X-Man himself.
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I'd introduce him as already on the X-men team. I'd use a "show don't tell" strategy. Have Gambit be mostly background, quiet, seemingly stoic, so when he does talk, less is more, but his silent demeanor would that occasionally gives way to amusement, anger or flirtation. Show him as a bad ass, who gets less action screen time, but, when he does, his feats are most impressive/cool. Make him mysterious, slightly standoffish, but, unpredictable (in good and bad ways). Have the other X-men, save Storm, a little wary of him. Imply a fiction/rivalry between he and Wolverine where Gambit is implied to be dangerous/bad ass enough that Logan is a bit worried about him. If/when his past is broached, have it be vague, yet exciting, to build intrigue. Make him CONFIDENT at all times, a dark, roguish (no pun intended) guy who seems half invested in the team, but, kicks the most ass.
Completely agree with that! The way it should be :gambit:
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I think the problem comes from creatives setting out to make a 'woke' movie(or comic) rather than a good one. Thinking the wokeness will automatically make it good, at least in the only way that really matters to them. And then attacking and demonizing the audience and fans when they don't like it.
You can see a parallel with 'health food'. Most foods that use to be labeled 'health food' were so universally bad-tasting that decades of comedy has been mined from it across countless medias. When companies started making 'health food' that tasted good they had a to first convince a disbelieving public that was the case because that was the exception rather than the rule.
Companies like Marvel and DC have made things like 'diversity' and 'social justice' pejoratives and synonymous with bad because so much of what they put out that focuses on those things or is tailored to them is bad. While there are some exceptions like the Black Panther movie, because they are the exceptions, until that changes people will feel that proves the rule.
I agree that some studios get it wrong because they concern themselves only with catering to diversity at the expense of everything else. However, I do not agree that BP is some kind of rare exception for woke movies. There are lots of woke movies that have been both commercial and critical successes. I think that people who have a problem with diversity and inclusion will feel it proves the myth because they didn't like diversity and inclusion to begin with. Confirmation bias is real and rears its head whenever these discussions come about. I've literally had people on here try to tell me that BP wasn't a woke movie because it was good and successful. Says a lot, really.
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Let me ask everyone a question. What do you think is the best way to introduce Gambit into the MCU? Not just for us as fans of him but for general audiences who might not be that familiar with Gambit.
Would it be best to introduce him into a show where they explain his background and his beginnings and show a portion of what he's gone through and then introduce him into the movies and have him around the other characters and part of a "team". While we, the audience, no what his history is but his new allies and teammates don't and aren't sure how much they trust him.
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Introduce him more like we experienced him in the comics. He shows up in the movies and starts working with allies and teammates and we, the audience, don't know much about him like the other characters in the movie. Then as time goes by we learn about his story. Possibly a show or movie comes out later on getting deeper into him.
Basically, do we want to know his backstory before he gets with the X-men so we can understand his past while his teammates can't or do we want him to be mysterious first and then his story comes out later on? Remember, think of this from a general audience perspective and not just as a Gambit fan. It could be interesting for some to genuinely not know what Gambit's agenda is.
Good question. I think I would like for them to build him up in his own series before we ever get to see him interact with the X-Men. I would like for his loyalties not to be entirely clear. Maybe he is on nobody's side and then sides with them. He develops a sort of comraderie with Storm and even a flirtation with Rogue. He and Logan appear to know and dislike each other but it isn't immediately clear how or why. He settles in... only to get close to something he wants to steal and totally betray them. Probably as a final act to pay off his debt to Sinister. Cue the scene with him telling Sinister this is it and swapping stolen goods for a silver vial. Cue Rogue feeling particularly betrayed and pissed off the next time they cross paths (even though it was actually real for him too).
I think for me, the key is that I want to see character growth in Gambit. I want to see him as the all-business, morally grey world-class thief who gets humbled and changed by his experiences. However it happens, I wanna see how bad he was so that I can appreciate how much he has actually changed.
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I agree that some studios get it wrong because they concern themselves only with catering to diversity at the expense of everything else. However, I do not agree that BP is some kind of rare exception for woke movies. There are lots of woke movies that have been both commercial and critical successes. I think that people who have a problem with diversity and inclusion will feel it proves the myth because they didn't like diversity and inclusion to begin with. Confirmation bias is real and rears its head whenever these discussions come about. I've literally had people on here try to tell me that BP wasn't a woke movie because it was good and successful. Says a lot, really.
As has been discussed in a few places on this forum recently, there is an evolving meaning happening over time(as thing like that tend to do) for things like 'woke' or 'social justice warrior'. People like Stan Lee or Chris Claremont were advocates for social justice in their days, but far removed from most modern toxic 'SJWs'. My first encounter with the term 'woke' was in it's current pejorative context
I would define a 'modern woke' presentation as advocating for diversity and inclusion with tokenism and pandering, of replacing good characters and characterization with walking after-school specials. Things like that.
BP would definitely meet the 'classic' definition of woke, but not so much the one currently in use by most people.
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I'm surprised how few people want to see Gambit introduced as a thief. I kind of want to see him as a reoccurring character knicking important stuff before we get to know him better.
As has been discussed in a few places on this forum recently, there is an evolving meaning happening over time(as thing like that tend to do) for things like 'woke' or 'social justice warrior'. People like Stan Lee or Chris Claremont were advocates for social justice in their days, but far removed from most modern toxic 'SJWs'. My first encounter with the term 'woke' was in it's current pejorative context
I would define a 'modern woke' presentation as advocating for diversity and inclusion with tokenism and pandering, of replacing good characters and characterization with walking after-school specials. Things like that.
BP would definitely meet the 'classic' definition of woke, but not so much the one currently in use by most people.
I'm confused as to what and who meets this definition when BP doesn't meet it. I agree with HairlessCat that 'woke' and 'SJW' are terms that get applied to things that an individual does not like and perceives to be a failure, but does not apply to things that they do like and perceive to be a success. It's meaningless as trying to define what 'cool' is.
CC is as 'woke' and 'SJW' as he ever was. He, Louise Simonson and Ann Nocenti have all guested on Jay & Miles Explain the X-men, which is hosted by a transgender person and focuses a lot on the queer subtext of the X-men. FabNic's on Twitter making his views on the world known.
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I would totally want thief Gambit. It's his history and I think people would want a follow up film or two. Why not delve into his history.
He was best as an anti-hero and not the love sap we're currently getting. IMO
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I would totally want thief Gambit. It's his history and I think people would want a follow up film or two. Why not delve into his history.
He was best as an anti-hero and not the love sap we're currently getting. IMO
Agreed. IMO dangerous anti-hero Gambit is the way to go, not love sap with his balls in Rogue's grip.
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I like Gambit as the anti-hero. Its why he became my favorite character to begin with while watching TAS in the 90s. He was the opposite of Cyclops.
If I had to choose how to introduce him to a wider audience, I think he should start as an antagonist. A mysterious and powerful foe to be reckoned with (but not evil, just at odds with the goals of other characters). It would serve for some amazing fanfare, seeing him fight other characters in the X-men. . . (I’d LOVE a “bang! You dead. ” Against wolverine).
Then introduce a far more dangerous foe, that aligns their interests. This is a classic writing trick, but is always effective. The audience would have immediate respect for Gambits power, because they’ve seen it in action against the protagonists.
Basically imagine a Vegetta scenario where he slowly becomes apart of the team, but keeping his mystery and keeping people who care for him at arms length. It makes for great character developments and arcs that align similarly with the comics.
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I like that idea. I’d only want to start with the backstory childhood stuff if it’s a tv series, where there is more time. If a movie, just use ‘mysterious’ past and Maybe have some reveals as it goes along.
As to the woke vs woke debate, it think it means the old fashion woke, like Claremont, was using female characters before it was ‘cool’ and he wrote them more or less like he did the male characters. He was also thinking bout the storyline, plots, sub-plots and interaction with other characters. Whereas in the female ghostbusters movie (did see it, it wasn’t bad but was very good. Kevin was the highlight, lol) The directed literally said he had the actresses doing improv. So not really paying attention to script, storyline, plots, more depending on the ghostbusters name and the fact that they were doing a ‘good thing’ by having girl ghostbusters. That’s how I was reading it anyway. *shrug*
Back to gambit, I would like a D+ series, but I also want him to be the rest of the X-men as well, not just stuck in ‘the past’ and/or New Orleans. That was one of the things I didn’t like about that leaked script, that is was literally stuck in the past.
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When Chris Potter was younger, could he have played Gambit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LclhdT-AboU
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When Chris Potter was younger, could he have played Gambit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LclhdT-AboU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LclhdT-AboU)
I think yes. Loved that interview!
I don`t want to plat Cyclops, I want to play Gambit!
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Here we go again. Us fans putting the cart before the horse! ;D
We don't even know how mutants will be introduced. Everything depends on where mutants come from. It determines how the X-Men will appear - much less individual characters. There are only a few ways this could happen... like 3.
1. Reality Warping involving Scarlet Witch & Doctor Strange where the main MCU is merged with another. This allows us to get fully-formed characters without having to develop them over the span of 3 to 8 years. A 2nd sub possibility is not merging universes, but again warping reality in a way that creates/activates the x-gene. This could have been done already by way of the infinity stones changing something that leads to aforementioned creation of mutants.
2. Experiment gone wrong that creates/activates the X-gene within the MCU. This is a slower method than above, but will create mutants all at once giving random people powers all over the world/universe. Characters can be fully formed physically and in terms of personality - but just about everyone would be new to their powers.
3. Mutants were always there - just hidden. Similar to the option 1 but without a lick of originality or creativity.
In each of these options Gambit could debut differently. In the case of 1 or 3 - Gambit may already be a member of the X-Men not unlike what we saw in XTAS. Option 2 is probably the most ambitious route and possibly the most character driven of the three. Gambit can already be everything we know him to be. A world class thief, ladies man, adventurer - all that. Being a mutant would be new. Something he'd have to learn to handle. I've got no clue what Marvel's plans are - well, perhaps we're not clueless. By now I believe we all expect some kind of reverse- House of X tomfoolery to go down.
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I don't like option 2. All the X-Men characters randomly getting their powers at once when they've already formed who they are creates a lot of problems. A lot of characters origin stories are wrapped up in when their abilities first manifested when they were younger and have matured into adults coming to terms with it and it shaping who they are. Having them already be who they are and all getting their abilities at the same time sounds like a mess that is less interesting for them individually. I mean, does nightcrawler all of a sudden turn blue? Wolverine will not be over 150 years old? How will Mystique, Mr. Sinister or Apocalypse work then? Will other mutants instantly morph into their different appearances and not have to go through growing up being different? It just seems like a disservice to their individual stories. I'll take either 1 or 3.
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I suppose you have a point - if we were talking about a comic book. The MCU so far has all but twisted every origin story. I think the only people that have stuck close to the comics are Cap, the Hulk, and Thor (for the most part). Just about everyone else, including Iron Man has seen an arguably wildly different origin than we're used to. For that matter, many mutant characters CANT be adapted directly because much of their past is tied to a specific point in history. If we base our like/dislike on how closely MCU interprets the character origins - I think we're setting ourselves up for disappointment.
That is unless they go with option 1A or 3. I think 1A works MILES better than 3. 3 is lazy AF and creates a bunch of problems asks the audience to accept that each and every mutant that has ever existed has been hidden. If that's the case - then there's no reason to be upset about characters like Mystique and Wolverine because their origins wouldn't make sense without interacting with other people throughout the decades.
Id expect 30% of the characters we know will be fundamentally different than their comic counterparts (gender, race and age changes). I highly doubt all the origin stories will be exactly as we know them. For instance - I bet my house that Storm will be tied to Wakanda in some way. I'm not tied to any possibility - but if I had to bet I'd say Marvel is leaning towards 1A or 2. 1A, again, is, for the most part, House of M. Option 2 is basically what happened in the Ultimate Marvel Universe, and the MCU has already adapted much of the Ultimate universe already).
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I suppose you have a point - if we were talking about a comic book. The MCU so far has all but twisted every origin story. I think the only people that have stuck close to the comics are Cap, the Hulk, and Thor (for the most part). Just about everyone else, including Iron Man has seen an arguably wildly different origin than we're used to. For that matter, many mutant characters CANT be adapted directly because much of their past is tied to a specific point in history. If we base our like/dislike on how closely MCU interprets the character origins - I think we're setting ourselves up for disappointment.
Not only does it hurt the characters individual stories(just about every single one not just a few] but it hurts them collectively. Mutants are supposed to be different from the other superheroes. This is basically like all of them becoming superheroes and supervillains instantly and missing out on a lot of the potential interesting nuance to their situations that sets them apart from the other Marvel characters. I mean, mutants growing up and being affected by the fear and the hatred the world has for the way they were born is a fundamental story component and I don't think it's a good idea to throw that away. That's the stuff people really connect to and where all these metaphors to real life are sprung from. Yeah you could still do the whole "humans fear mutants" thing but I feel you miss out on a key component that is pretty important.
And sure I know individual origin stories can be changed up and what not for movies but, like I said, this is a fundamental change that alters every single character and kind of strips them of some of their identity as a race in the MCU. I personally think the X-Men is something that's very important to get right in the MCU. Them being mutants is one of the reasons we all love and root for them. It is lessened if they become powered up suddenly by a lab accident or something all at the same time. Growing up mutants is something they all have in common no matter what side they're on. That's why the grey area is so understandable(if done right) when a character might flip flop.
That is unless they go with option 1A or 3. I think 1A works MILES better than 3. 3 is lazy AF and creates a bunch of problems asks the audience to accept that each and every mutant that has ever existed has been hidden. If that's the case - then there's no reason to be upset about characters like Mystique and Wolverine because their origins wouldn't make sense without interacting with other people throughout the decades.
Yeah, I mean just pretending the mutants have always been there won't work because there are too many storylines/events/characters that are set in the past. It would take some major plot jiu jitsu to get general audiences to go along with accepting mutants have been around this whole time affecting the universe. Just me personally I could swallow that better than 2 because the X-Men is really what I want to see anyway. 8)
I'll go with 1a. I honestly already thought they were going to use one of the "snaps" as a reality altering moment. Where everyone comes back but mutants now exist and have existed and everyone is used to this world. Or half of everyone is used to history with mutants or something like that. Something could've been done right there. We'll see what happens with the Doctor Strange Multiverse thing. Hope they do that right because the rumors of all the actors coming in to play former versions of their characters seems a bit of a mess.
Id expect 30% of the characters we know will be fundamentally different than their comic counterparts (gender, race and age changes). I highly doubt all the origin stories will be exactly as we know them. For instance - I bet my house that Storm will be tied to Wakanda in some way. I'm not tied to any possibility - but if I had to bet I'd say Marvel is leaning towards 1A or 2. 1A, again, is, for the most part, House of M. Option 2 is basically what happened in the Ultimate Marvel Universe, and the MCU has already adapted much of the Ultimate universe already).
Yeah this is concerning. I am not for changing anyone's race, gender, sexuality, or age(unreasonably). Whichever way the change goes. I don't think it's necessary for the X-Men, who are already diverse enough to check all the boxes. Like I said, I don't mind the little changes to characters origins so they can fit in the mcu a little better but I'm against a blanket changing of all mutant origins.
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Here's another interview with some of the cast, I love it when Chris says, "I didn't realize the depth of the X-Men animated series, the depth of the characters and the depth of the writing until after it finished it and how those characters were so human and could change, were changing viewer's lives, young and old. So I become much more proud of my involvement with the X-Men as the years went on and I thought and I was Gambit!" And Lenore Zann hugs him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFxEmB7f2fI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFxEmB7f2fI)
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Here's another interview with some of the cast, I love it when Chris says, "I didn't realize the depth of the X-Men animated series, the depth of the characters and the depth of the writing until after it finished it and how those characters were so human and could change, were changing viewer's lives, young and old. So I become much more proud of my involvement with the X-Men as the years went on and I thought and I was Gambit!" And Lenore Zann hugs him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFxEmB7f2fI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFxEmB7f2fI)
It'd be great if they could all come back to voice the characters in another show. Chris Potter is still who I hear in my head when I read Gambit. The best Gambit voice by far. I hated whey Tony Daniel's took over in the show and voiced him for video games and stuff. Lenore Zann is my Rogue too.
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It'd be great if they could all come back to voice the characters in another show. Chris Potter is still who I hear in my head when I read Gambit. The best Gambit voice by far. I hated whey Tony Daniel's took over in the show and voiced him for video games and stuff. Lenore Zann is my Rogue too.
Amen. I love the old Street Fighter vs X-Men, Marvel vs Capcom games, especially with Cyclops, Wolverine, etc being voiced the same as the animated series, so I hate raspy Remy in those. Imagine Potter's voice doing his in-game lines....would've been so much cooler.
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If they ever continue where the series left off (which is what they should have done), I can only hope it doesn't become a woke show. I never liked Tony Daniel's voice as Gambit, Chris gave him a smooth talking voice, while Daniel sounded like he has a sore throat or something. Also, I wish John Colicos (Apocalypse) was still alive, he was fantastic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQV97Xo6pDo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQV97Xo6pDo)
You know, back when IMDB had message boards, when X-Men Apocalypse came out, a father of two said that when he took his kids to see the film, they didn't really like it. They hated the guy who played Apocalypse and wanted John Colicos to play him, but he had to tell them that he was already dead.
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I think the only thing I didn't like about Chris voicing Gambit which wasn't his thing was the third person. I'm always amazed how people don't realize how terrible it sounds.
Chris' voice was smooth.
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The only other voice of Gambit that I've liked was Bill Heck in the Wolverine podcast series. I've only heard a little bit of it, but it wasn't bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNMZnhmc710 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNMZnhmc710)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ3boGoZM4Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ3boGoZM4Y)
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If there is a movie/tv show I kinda want to hear third person once or twice. ;p More as a tongue in cheek thing (please don’t kill me... ;) )
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If there is a movie/tv show I kinda want to hear third person once or twice. ;p More as a tongue in cheek thing (please don’t kill me... ;) )
If you like it, you like it. :) No killing today! LOL
My point always was that it makes him sound unintelligent and he is a far away from that adjective as can be. He's a thief, he knows things. In the books he has infiltrated high security places, he gets intel, he knows how things work. It's a poor showing in general.
And I always tell folks, talk that way and see how silly it actually sounds.
Its not horrible per say but its gotta be contained, like a thought bubble or something, not out loud. IMO.
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If you like it, you like it. :) No killing today! LOL
My point always was that it makes him sound unintelligent and he is a far away from that adjective as can be. He's a thief, he knows things. In the books he has infiltrated high security places, he gets intel, he knows how things work. It's a poor showing in general.
And I always tell folks, talk that way and see how silly it actually sounds.
Its not horrible per say but its gotta be contained, like a thought bubble or something, not out loud. IMO.
Yeah it's way too over done in the show. There are moments when it feels totally inappropriate. But it was a kids show and they were going for a feel with the character. I can understand that. But mainly Chris Potter's voice was great and had a silky smooth tone to it that captures Gambit pretty well. He also could pull some good drama out of Gambit's voice too which I really appreciate. Not too many others have done that. I wouldn't mind in another portrayal of Gambit they did the third person thing once or twice. Just for fun, like Gambit's being a smart ass or something.
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I think the only thing I didn't like about Chris voicing Gambit which wasn't his thing was the third person. I'm always amazed how people don't realize how terrible it sounds.
Chris' voice was smooth.
Agreed, but the Rock did it with success in the 90's. Also, it did give us this iconic line... "Everyone can relax...Gambit has returned!"
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I think the only thing I didn't like about Chris voicing Gambit which wasn't his thing was the third person. I'm always amazed how people don't realize how terrible it sounds.
Chris' voice was smooth.
This...
Never liked the third person talking either. Well... the odd third person comment here and there I don't mind, but not ALL the time.