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Title: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Nekobaghira on October 19, 2015, 04:26:49 PM
January 2016
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/exclusive-all-new-falcon-debuts-in-marvel-comics-january-2016-solicitations

February 2016
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/marvels-february-2016-solicitations-feature-miles-morales-avengers-standoff-more

March 2016
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/black-widow-avengers-standoff-more-in-marvels-march-2016-solicitations

April 2016
http://www.comicvine.com/articles/marvel-comics-april-2016-covers-and-solicitations/1100-154711/
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/marvels-april-2016-solicitations-introduce-black-panther-gwenpool-more

May 2016
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/steve-rogers-is-captain-america-civil-war-ii-begins-marvel-may-2016-solicitations

June 2016
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/civil-war-ii-erupts-deadpool-v-gambit-han-solo-marvel-june-2016-solicitations

July 2016
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/civil-war-ii-battle-lines-are-drawn-in-marvel-comics-july-2016-solicitations

August 2016
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/civil-war-ii-marvel-comics-august-2016-solicitations

September 2016
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/civil-war-ii-tears-alliances-apart-in-marvel-comics-september-2016-solicitations

October 2016
http://www.cbr.com/civil-war-ii-vision-conclude-doom-is-iron-man-more-in-marvels-october-solicitations/

November 2016
http://www.cbr.com/civil-war-ii-concludes-marvel-now-explodes-in-marvels-november-2016-solicitations/

December 2016
http://www.cbr.com/marvel-comics-december-solicitations/
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Nekobaghira on October 19, 2015, 04:28:19 PM
Those are early books, more releases tomorrow 10/20
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Homme on October 19, 2015, 04:58:44 PM
lol I thought Marvel got the rights to the Berserk manga because that's totally Femto in that Captain Falcon cover.

BTW, don't Google that if you are unfamiliar with the character.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: remydat on October 19, 2015, 05:09:33 PM
Didn't know there were other Berserk fans on here.  Man that Manga used to be my favorite until Miura just started taking forever to release chapters.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Dantay on October 19, 2015, 05:27:02 PM
lol I thought Marvel got the rights to the Berserk manga because that's totally Femto in that Captain Falcon cover.

BTW, don't Google that if you are unfamiliar with the character.

thought the same thing, Griffith is the new Falcon ...confirmed
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: AeroSennin on October 19, 2015, 06:28:20 PM
http://comicbook.com/2015/10/19/exclusive-marvel-advance-avengers-solicitations-for-january-2016/5

Seems it was uncanny avengers for Gambit's big role.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: AnimatedPhil on October 19, 2015, 06:59:34 PM
http://comicbook.com/2015/10/19/exclusive-marvel-advance-avengers-solicitations-for-january-2016/5

Seems it was uncanny avengers for Gambit's big role.

I'm not gonna lie...I love that cover. I love the homage to X-Men 24.

And I love the fact that Gambit, Rogue, and Deadpool are on a team together.

And I love ROMY, so sue me. haha.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: AeroSennin on October 19, 2015, 07:06:03 PM
I'm not gonna lie...I love that cover. I love the homage to X-Men 24.

And I love the fact that Gambit, Rogue, and Deadpool are on a team together.

And I love ROMY, so sue me. haha.

It's a pretty mixed reaction on cbr.... some love it some hate it. Big concern seems to be that people are worried about it being legacy 2.0 with gambit used as a prop esp with the human torch rogue medusa thing floating in the background. 
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: bigstupidjellyfish on October 19, 2015, 07:21:14 PM
On the one hand I strongly dislike Romy and hope we don't go down that road again. I also hope we don't have a repeat of Legacy.

But on the other hand, Gambit joining the Avengers has been something I've wanted for years. I'm hoping that's where the story goes.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: red joseph on October 19, 2015, 07:27:31 PM
I'm cool with it as long as both characters are equal etc...

But I've got a bad feeling that Gambit's going to be turned into a bad guy or die from the death cloud thing.

Breevort did say X fans will hate these issues.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Nekobaghira on October 19, 2015, 07:37:39 PM
Well, that stinks.  I hope Gambit is handled well and not as a prop to Rogue like Xmen Legacy.  And as long as he's an equal and isn't Rogue's purse, I can deal with it.

Hmmm, XFans will hate the issues huh?

Guess we'll see how it turns. 
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: AnimatedPhil on October 19, 2015, 07:48:09 PM
I'm cool with it as long as both characters are equal etc...

But I've got a bad feeling that Gambit's going to be turned into a bad guy or die from the death cloud thing.

Breevort did say X fans will hate these issues.

I agree. I know Duggan is a fan of Rogue, but not Carey superfan. I also rember when he was first writing Deadpool he did a Reddit AMA interview and said he loved all things 90s and even brought up Gambit being best as the "Anti-Hero" like when he first debuted and loved the fact that nobody trusted him except a few like Storm.

I also take everything Breevort says with a grain of salt. I know he said before that Gambit for as much as he is liked, he has those that dislike him (I know cause I asked him a question right after Gambit Origins comic came out if he was not going to be wallpaper in Legacy anymore). He talked about how everyone hated Wolverine joining the Avengers and upsetting the X-Men fans.  So I think that since Deadpool is on the team and now possibly Gambit, he could be referring do the dwindling of actual X-Men in X-Men books. Just my opinion.

But I also think since we as Gambit fans have been screwed over so many times, we all leap to death first. haha
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Moonlight Nightmare on October 19, 2015, 08:11:51 PM
Nope, no, non, nein, nay. Just no I dont want a racky lebeau again, I rather him be out of the loop of the comics then her little mits get on our precious Remy 
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: thjan on October 19, 2015, 08:14:13 PM
http://comicbook.com/2015/10/19/exclusive-marvel-advance-avengers-solicitations-for-january-2016/5

Seems it was uncanny avengers for Gambit's big role.

Wow!  That is a stunningly beautiful cover.  I love it too!  This has caught my interest for sure.  

And I love ROMY, so sue me. haha.

Same here  :).


But I've got a bad feeling that Gambit's going to be turned into a bad guy or die from the death cloud thing.

Yep, I have my worries as well.  And yeah, Gambit potentially being turned into a bad guy is my biggest one.  My second biggest worry is him coming in just to play on Rogue's feelings for his benefit(and to the detriment of the Avengers) and completely destroying their friendship/relationship.  Marvel does not have a good track record with how they handle their characters now.  Sadly, almost everyone seems to be written out of character these days.

These issues are actually what is going to decide whether I keep collecting Marvel comics for the foreseeable future.  This whole Secret Wars nonsense has really made me lose a lot of interest in the Marvel Universe and none of the solicitations until this one had reignited that interest.  Depending on how this goes, my Marvel comic collecting days may be done for good (or I will at least be taking a nice long break).  

Breevort did say X fans will hate these issues.

Don't like hearing this at all. That does seem to be Marvel's modus operandi nowadays though.  Unfortunately, doing stuff that annoys lots of fans actually seems to sell too.  I will never understand that.    
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: AeroSennin on October 19, 2015, 08:32:37 PM
Most important thing he isn't dead.... also is this a 616 or altered version?
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Nekobaghira on October 19, 2015, 08:55:35 PM
I agree. I know Duggan is a fan of Rogue, but not Carey superfan. I also rember when he was first writing Deadpool he did a Reddit AMA interview and said he loved all things 90s and even brought up Gambit being best as the "Anti-Hero" like when he first debuted and loved the fact that nobody trusted him except a few like Storm.

I'm good with the anti-hero role for Gambit.  To me that is who he is and should always be like that. And I really do hope he likes the character.  And not Carey like because we've seen that, there was 8 or more years of that stuff, we don't need that kind of like for the character.

Most important thing he isn't dead.... also is this a 616 or altered version?

I suppose but if he turns back into Racky Lebeau or loses his character again for the sake of Rogue, then I won't be a happy fan and would have preferred death to that type of treatment.

That is why there is such a strong reaction, it goes beyond whether one romys or not.  This issue completely whiffs of another triangle.  There is more to Gambit.  IMO

I know we don't know yet and we'll have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: AeroSennin on October 19, 2015, 09:05:45 PM
For the newer members please can someone explain racky?

Also what do you think his interactions would be with the rest of the team..  I can't see Deadpool keeping his mouth shut.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: X-fan73 on October 19, 2015, 09:14:48 PM
I was quite wrong before! I am quite surprised and cautiously excited to see Gambit in UA, here's hoping it's worthwhile :)
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Nekobaghira on October 19, 2015, 09:27:01 PM
For the newer members please can someone explain racky?

Racky Lebeau was our affectionate name for Gambit based on his characterization in Xmen Legacy written by Mike Carey.  Gambit didn't do anything or very little in the 8 long years he was on the team.  Marvel was in its "character focus" thing.  Once it was on Rogue, all Gambit did was wait for her, pine for her and didn't do anything. It was promised in an interview that Gambit would have some big action scene.  Nope, one panel of him charging Rockslide.  That was it.  

Toadman005 did a photo manip of a scene replacing Gambit with a coat rack wearing Gambit's trench and the scene didn't change.  That is, anybody could have been in those panels.  

Gambit wasn't utilized and any story Carey had promised he would do with Gambit was quickly dropped. Carey did a great job in interviews, he knew the character for the most part. But he just didn't write him. The times he wrote him well was probably unintentional because Rogue looked bad in those scene.

Gambit wasn't any better under Gage, who wrote him freakin' out over a kiss with Frenzy, a woman he had slept with before.  It was literally a ridiculous run for Gambit.

Gambit's character was lost in XML, nobody recognized the Gambit that was in XML. The solo by Asmus was a character rehab and re-established him.

Not saying there were not some issues where Gambit was done well, but those were very few.

I can't find the art right now.  Maybe Toadman005 will repost for us.  I will post the avatar we still have for Racky.

Also what do you think his interactions would be with the rest of the team..  I can't see Deadpool keeping his mouth shut.

TBH - that is the only redeeming thing for me right now.  Gambit and Deadpool interaction is a must read I think.   ;D
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: AeroSennin on October 19, 2015, 09:35:57 PM
Tragic as it is that racky thing is hysterical.... Maybe if they do treat him like that again we can just fill their mail box with printed versions... Though I may fear the writer blow back on that :).

I am keen to see a match of bad one liners between them.... I imagine they would poke fun at each other. Just hope Duggan doesn't favour Deadpool too much in the exchanges. It's no fun if it doesn't flow both ways :).
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: DonPriceTag on October 19, 2015, 09:41:46 PM
He sure did freak out... Like a teenaged boy in a manga / anime series. It was pathetic. It's sad what happened to him under Carey, because he showed us how good of a writer he was in his Origin's issue and the AoX event.

But from what I'm gathering from here and CBR, almost everyone is genuinely concerned on how this will be played out. Even the Rogue diehards aren't sold that Gambit isn't going to be featured well.

I didn't even notice how similar it was to X-Men #24... I have that issue.

(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/7/7a/X-Men_Vol_2_24.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20070817025846)
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Nekobaghira on October 19, 2015, 09:49:46 PM
Tragic as it is that racky thing is hysterical.... Maybe if they do treat him like that again we can just fill their mail box with printed versions... Though I may fear the writer blow back on that :).

It is funny.  It's why Toadman005 did the art, and I took his work and made the avatar.  It was our way of getting rid of some frustration by making fun of Xmen Legacy. Some of us even used that avatar here and CBR to show our dislike for the treatment.

I am keen to see a match of bad one liners between them.... I imagine they would poke fun at each other. Just hope Duggan doesn't favour Deadpool too much in the exchanges. It's no fun if it doesn't flow both ways :).

Once always hopes that characters are always balanced.  I would think they could easily bust each others chops.

@Don, yeah, allot folks noticed the cover similarities, I do think its a throwback type thing.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: DonPriceTag on October 19, 2015, 10:00:27 PM
That's the thing... "Throw back". That was the issue where ish got real for them. By all means it was the beginning of Romy. Everyone here knows I'm a fan of the couple, but I don't want it forced. Remove the meta and what we know about Carey and favoritism; Gambit kind of got ran through the mud with zero concern, especially from Rogue. I think pushing them on each other now makes him look like a... To say it nicely, a fool. Weak. Pitiful.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Nekobaghira on October 19, 2015, 10:08:52 PM
IA Don. I would also would rather have more development for Gambit.  And you bring up a good point.  It seldom gets addressed but Rogue is seldom written as giving two s***s about Gambit.  And the solo aside, which when you consider XML was actually out of character for her because she hasn't shown to care about him in a long time. Rogue just walks all over Gambit.

It has to be equal.  It can't be like has been for the last ten plus years.  IMO
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: AeroSennin on October 19, 2015, 10:56:27 PM
So don would him arriving for an Arc under dubious terms kicking ass taking aomething for personal gain but doing the right thing in the end helping rogue. Saying I got your back to her and off to another team before ships get involved be a best case scenario. Starting the repair having some action but leaving before getting bogged down?
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: anya on October 19, 2015, 11:27:38 PM
Neko- I know it seemed to drag on forever, but legacy didn't last eight years.  ;D
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: DonPriceTag on October 19, 2015, 11:30:55 PM
So don would him arriving for an Arc under dubious terms kicking ass taking aomething for personal gain but doing the right thing in the end helping rogue. Saying I got your back to her and off to another team before ships get involved be a best case scenario. Starting the repair having some action but leaving before getting bogged down?

Oh no, not at all. I wouldn't have him there at all. But he's is going to be there so all I can do hope for the best... It's a messy situation already, with existing angst, his presence exasperates the situation. I don't know enough about Duggan to guess what he's going to do, but from what already there and the lack of development Gambit has gotten in terms of his relationship with Rogue... Got to say it again, that's a beautiful cover. Hope the rest of his stay is as pleasant.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Nekobaghira on October 19, 2015, 11:38:52 PM
Neko- I know it seemed to drag on forever, but legacy didn't last eight years.  ;D

*chuckles* I was close - Carey started with Xmen #188 in 2006 - and then the books title changed in 2008, and ended in 2012.  Makes it six years then.    ;)
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: remydat on October 20, 2015, 12:08:04 AM
I would prefer Gambit be an anti-hero in this and an antagonist to the Avengers perhaps due to his role as head of the Thieves Guild but more than likely this will be the reappearance of Racky which will at least provide me with some great moments in unintentional comedy.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: AeroSennin on October 20, 2015, 12:14:46 AM
Oh no, not at all. I wouldn't have him there at all. But he's is going to be there so all I can do hope for the best... It's a messy situation already, with existing angst, his presence exasperates the situation. I don't know enough about Duggan to guess what he's going to do, but from what already there and the lack of development Gambit has gotten in terms of his relationship with Rogue... Got to say it again, that's a beautiful cover. Hope the rest of his stay is as pleasant.

It is a cool cover. I was just trying to figure a  way he could get in an out before the whole torch thing explodes and he can step back afterwards missing any possible character assassination and maybe getting some development along the way.

Though I am trying to figure how they might develope him as part of this team. Maybe he and dead pool do the off the book jobs for the team? The ones the public doesn't see almost an x force tucked inside an avengers team...
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Spoonz on October 20, 2015, 01:33:26 AM
Yeah the return of Racky is a huge fear of mine.  So much work has been done on Gambit to clean him of being Rogue's story tool and now the danger is that he'll become a mopey ex boyfriend again.  Also I know solicits are just written up by some intern and we should never take them seriously but the friend or foe thing bothers me, I hope he isn't a villain to get beaten up by the Avengers while Rogue tries to talk him out of whatever it is he's doing.  At this point Gambit being a villain doesn't make sense. Like everybody says, anti-hero thief is fine.  But flat out villain...no it's just not in him. 
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: purplevit on October 20, 2015, 02:55:06 AM
Ha! I knew it)

Amazing cover. Solitics sounds really exciting!

I hope Gambit will join team so it is not only a guest appearence. Can't wait Rent to interact with Rogue, Dead pool and QS again.

The only thing that bothers me is his 90's costume. I hope inside of book it will be modern costume from solo.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Dantay on October 20, 2015, 03:17:04 AM
(clears throat) NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO even Gambit in this book is not enough for me to buy it, the first issue is terriable the art isnt good, the writings not good either
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: purplevit on October 20, 2015, 03:32:07 AM
Artist for issue is gonna be different .

I do not think that Gambit will be a villain. I think Duggan wants to bring back anti-hero Gambit which will be awesome.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: AeroSennin on October 20, 2015, 03:56:40 AM
Man in all the Chaos and excitement over rogue and deadpool I forgot Quicksilver. Gambit and QuickSilver were fun together in ANZF....

This team has great potential if we can skip the overt Drama.... So many large personalities...

Out there thoght going back to the ANXF days which was the last we saw of Gambit. Would it be weird if Gambit had actually been with Polaris after he disappeared with the others at end of the ANXF and that massive gap pre and post SW? I would love to know what mischief he has been up to in the interim.

It seems between A Force, X-Men 92, and a few other spaces in the SW that Marvel is hitting the ROMY train pretty hard.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Nekobaghira on October 20, 2015, 10:47:40 AM
Yeah the return of Racky is a huge fear of mine.  So much work has been done on Gambit to clean him of being Rogue's story tool and now the danger is that he'll become a mopey ex boyfriend again.  Also I know solicits are just written up by some intern and we should never take them seriously but the friend or foe thing bothers me, I hope he isn't a villain to get beaten up by the Avengers while Rogue tries to talk him out of whatever it is he's doing.  At this point Gambit being a villain doesn't make sense. Like everybody says, anti-hero thief is fine.  But flat out villain...no it's just not in him.  

Yeah, that is my concern too.  I don't want a mopey ex boyfriend.  I want the cocky, charming character he is suppose to be, anti-hero and all..  Put the angst of the relationship on the back burner and keep it there.  There is more to Gambit than his past relationship, if all he is there for is romancing Rogue, then I will be disappointed.

Deadpool and QS being on the team and interacting with G should be great though or so I hope.  :)
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Spoonz on October 20, 2015, 10:54:26 AM
Yeah, that is my concern too.  I don't want a mopey ex boyfriend.  I want the cocky, charming character he is suppose to be, anti-hero and all..  Put the angst of the relationship on the back burner and keep it there.  There is more to Gambit than his past relationship, if all he is there for is romancing Rogue, then I will be disappointed.

Deadpool and QS being on the team and interacting with G should be great though or so I hope.  :)


Do you think he'll be a team member?  I thought so at first but then I figured he'd probably just be a quest star, since issue 3 is where the final member is supposed to show up.  I reckon he's there for an arc before buggering off. 
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Nekobaghira on October 20, 2015, 11:00:26 AM
Do you think he'll be a team member?  I thought so at first but then I figured he'd probably just be a quest star, since issue 3 is where the final member is supposed to show up.  I reckon he's there for an arc before buggering off. 

I think he'll be there for an arc and then leave.  All that was stated at NYCC was a "major role", which means he'll be apart of the story for that arc, not necessarily joining the team.  I think different wording would have been used if he was joining a team. 
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Toadman005 on October 20, 2015, 12:04:41 PM
An awesome guest appearance arc might be the best thing for him.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: purplevit on October 20, 2015, 12:24:23 PM
I think if it was a guest star appearance then solitics would mention it is a guest star appearence.
I think Gambit will appear in issue 3.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: remydat on October 20, 2015, 12:55:08 PM
Do you think he'll be a team member?  I thought so at first but then I figured he'd probably just be a quest star, since issue 3 is where the final member is supposed to show up.  I reckon he's there for an arc before buggering off. 

I am hoping he is not a team member but a recurring character who is at times at odds with the UA Agenda and at times when their goals align, he helps out the UA.  That would be the best use of him as head of the TG.  A Gambit that doesn't answer to anyone except his own conscience and his own organization as I am pretty much over Gambit towing the company line for anyone.

Set up that way and you could have some of the more straight laced UA team members hating him and then some of the more anti-hero types like DP, QS, and Rogue trying to play peacemaker of sorts between the their teammates and Gambit.

Of course that is probably too much to ask of Marvel.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Nekobaghira on October 20, 2015, 01:04:24 PM
I am hoping he is not a team member but a recurring character who is at times at odds with the UA Agenda and at times when their goals align, he helps out the UA.  That would be the best use of him as head of the TG.  A Gambit that doesn't answer to anyone except his own conscience and his own organization as I am pretty much over Gambit towing the company line for anyone.

Set up that way and you could have some of the more straight laced UA team members hating him and then some of the more anti-hero types like DP, QS, and Rogue trying to play peacemaker of sorts between the their teammates and Gambit.

Of course that is probably too much to ask of Marvel.

Now this idea, I like.  And would love for that to be the case! And it would make sense and fit the character really well.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Paradox Jast on October 20, 2015, 08:44:16 PM
Fingers crossed guys?

Mine are.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: albahan888 on October 20, 2015, 11:21:37 PM
Despite their apparent dislike for it (and continuity when it comes to it) they'll use Romy to sell books. It's very annoying but as I said before that seems to be Marvel's MO nowadays. Nothing will happen between them other than stupid cheap drama at best most likely because Rogue and Human Torch apparently have something going on.... Why?  ??? Well that still makes more sense than what Carey did I guess.

Also they probably don't ask that question in the solicitation if the answer isn't the opposite of what it should be which I think is friend because despite his thievery he generally does the right thing and he and Rogue should have some level of trust in each other. Instead he'll probably be a foe for some reason. I don't know anymore but my guess is it'll be good for the crowd who like Gambit as a bad guy and it'll probably bury him as a hero some more before sending him back into limbo but I really hope one of these times my negative feelings towards the things I used to just love at Marvel will be wrong.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Dantay on October 21, 2015, 07:02:57 AM
Romy wont sell books its become a poison for both characters, in the 90's, sure a money maker, these days its a joke and hated more than loved and very rarely talked about positively,  just look at this site, this is the most anyone has mentioned Romy in a while
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Miss Misery on October 21, 2015, 07:17:24 AM
Well, tumblr fan girls seem to like them, judging by the many posts of this cover.

Remydat's story idea sounds great, which is why it probably won't happen: Marvel's not interested in telling stories that are good and help the characters progress.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: cc008 on October 21, 2015, 08:52:33 AM
Duggan has been fantastic. I trust him with Gambit.  I remember not knowing much about him when he started his run on Deadpool and now I don't want anyone else to write the character.. with the exception of like.. Remender, Kelly, Nicieza, Bunn. So five writers lol. But you get it. He'll do right by Gambit and I hope that he stays on as a permanent character in the book.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Dantay on October 21, 2015, 10:32:30 AM
Duggan has been fantastic. I trust him with Gambit.  I remember not knowing much about him when he started his run on Deadpool and now I don't want anyone else to write the character.. with the exception of like.. Remender, Kelly, Nicieza, Bunn. So five writers lol. But you get it. He'll do right by Gambit and I hope that he stays on as a permanent character in the book.

people including me said the same thing about Carey at first then Gage , while i enjoy his Deadpool i wouldnt put him up with the likes of Kelly and Nicieza,
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: DonPriceTag on October 21, 2015, 08:16:55 PM
At the end of the day it's less the writer and more editorial and their view for the line and its moving parts (characters). What makes a writer good isn't his/her wish but how they operate under direction and limitations. Some like Bendis and once upon a time, Remender and Carey, have less restrictions due to their leverage and contributions but its all relevant to the end product...

Carey got a lot of freedom to do as he pleased, I say this because most of it was erased or ignored less than a year after his departure. But in the end he saw his vision, no matter how odd in places, got realized.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Nekobaghira on October 22, 2015, 12:50:25 PM
people including me said the same thing about Carey at first then Gage , while i enjoy his Deadpool i wouldnt put him up with the likes of Kelly and Nicieza,

True enough. And in defense of Carey, he did write some good stuff.  He just didn't write Gambit well for the most part. Gage also didn't really write Gambit until Xmen Arena thing. But they had reputation and people gave them a benefit of the doubt and were disappointed.  

I think we've been bamboozled by reputation for quite some time. PAD is a great example. There was so much hope and general like for his work and yet he failed.

Rep aside - its what is in print that will be key.  As we've seen, being able to write some characters well doesn't mean they can write all of them well.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: X-fan73 on October 22, 2015, 01:19:14 PM
Peter David did alright with Gambit, IMO. The biggest problem with Gambit in the last few years has been stability we're all pretty cynical about any future appearances, being used to put over less interesting characters  without anything in return.

More people should be excited for Gambit's appearance in Uncanny Avengers, however some fear the shadow of Racky or another bumbling Gambit appearance, rather than Marvel's best thief!

I'd support Gambit appearing in one of Marvel's top titles, but I understand the apprehension in a book filled with Marvel's most promoted characters! Where and how will he fit in, coming back into the fold from creative exile?
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Dantay on October 22, 2015, 01:46:48 PM
PAD started off great but he fooled us, he said Gambit would be a POV character and after the Danger arc he fell off really, i enjoyed the run and thought he did a good job, but he seemed to imply it was Gambits fault for low sales even though its proven when he was POV character sales were up, also that Scarlett Witch didnt help the comic was a slow burner problem is no one seems to be into those these days
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Faith on October 22, 2015, 01:54:07 PM
Cover for Uncanny Avenger's #5

http://www.comicvine.com/articles/marvel-comics-january-2016-covers-and-solicitation/1100-153919/


I see this is being covering in the solicitations section but I missed it the first time.  Honestly, I've been so out of comics because of lack of interest, I don't know how this will go.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Faith on October 22, 2015, 01:58:56 PM
Most important thing he isn't dead....

Yet.  - hopefully not.  That and Gambit going full-on creepy villain would be my second worry and then would be him just being wallpaper while Deadpool, Rogue or others do all the good stuff.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Nekobaghira on October 22, 2015, 04:14:34 PM
All good Faith - won't need a UA #5 thread til we get previews.  Thanks for info. 

As it is, I'm not buying the book until Gambit shows up and only because its a train wreck I can't seem to not watch. 

I just don't want a repeat of XML.  Being in a top title has not bode well for Gambit, which is part of why the apprehension.

I was fine with PAD, I get the complaints but I did like that version of ANXF and I think overall he was good with Gambit.  But it was so clear when PAD lost interest in Gambit. 
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: DonPriceTag on October 23, 2015, 12:36:05 AM

As it is, I'm not buying the book until Gambit shows up and only because its a train wreck I can't seem to not watch.  



Couldn't have said it better. Hey at least it's a pretty train wreck. That cover I mean
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: bigstupidjellyfish on October 23, 2015, 01:26:33 AM
I don't think PAD lost interest in Gambit specifically, but that he lost interest in the title as a whole. He was very enthusiastic about the whole thing very early on, but then Marvel told him it was canceled and he stopped caring. It pretty much affected everyone except for Quicksilver, because PAD is always on point when it comes to him.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Nekobaghira on October 23, 2015, 07:39:55 AM
I don't think PAD lost interest in Gambit specifically, but that he lost interest in the title as a whole. He was very enthusiastic about the whole thing very early on, but then Marvel told him it was canceled and he stopped caring. It pretty much affected everyone except for Quicksilver, because PAD is always on point when it comes to him.

Better assessment, it did show in his work.  Like he was phoning it in because it was cancelled.

@Don - yes, I think the cover is nice.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Toadman005 on October 23, 2015, 06:06:26 PM
Unprofessional imo.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Dantay on October 23, 2015, 07:00:02 PM
Unprofessional imo.

totally agree with you, even in an interview he tried to excuse the low sales on characters and fans not being into the long burn storys that they only want events and quick resolution's, which i kind of agree with that statement but still take responsibility, even the previous X-Factor run he blamed an artist for getting it canceled
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: purplevit on October 24, 2015, 06:10:35 AM
totally agree with you, even in an interview he tried to excuse the low sales on characters and fans not being into the long burn storys that they only want events and quick resolution's, which i kind of agree with that statement but still take responsibility, even the previous X-Factor run he blamed an artist for getting it canceled

About previous X-Factor and artist story I agrre that it was really problem with artist.

They had strong stable sales for noir book with good art and then they change artist and because his art it was impossible to read this book. 30% of readers went away. Art were much worse then in Spurriers Legacy and it was light and not noir. It really destroyed this book.

As for all-new the main problem was writing. You just can`t explain third act of story in bubble thoughts in 1 last page
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Dantay on October 24, 2015, 12:23:50 PM
About previous X-Factor and artist story I agrre that it was really problem with artist.

They had strong stable sales for noir book with good art and then they change artist and because his art it was impossible to read this book. 30% of readers went away. Art were much worse then in Spurriers Legacy and it was light and not noir. It really destroyed this book.

As for all-new the main problem was writing. You just can`t explain third act of story in bubble thoughts in 1 last page


yeah but the legacy art was terrible, me personally i wasnt a big fan of Legion but the writing was so good it kept me invested, im sure the bad art is to blame for loseing numbers but if his writing was good enough people wouldn't care, it had the fans and the artist didnt stay on the book so those readers that went away would have come back when the artist left, PAD who i am a fan of never takes responsibility he blames everyone else even fans
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Nekobaghira on December 15, 2015, 02:06:09 PM
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/black-widow-avengers-standoff-more-in-marvels-march-2016-solicitations

X-MEN '92 #1
CHRIS SIMS & CHAD BOWERS (w) • ALTI FIRMANSYAH (a)
Cover by DAVID NAKAYAMA
hip-hop variant by afua richardson
ACTION FIGURE VARIANT COVER BY JOHN TYLER CHRISTOPHER
VARIANT COVER BY TBA
The X-Men of the 90s are back! Continuing from the hit Secret Wars series starring the X-Men of a more EXTREME decade. With Cassandra Nova defeated, the X-Men have taken in all the young mutants she had rounded up and are officially reopening the Xavier School for Gifted Children...but being responsible won't stop them from having crazy adventures! Especially when Omega Red shows up with the (Formerly) Soviet Super Soldiers!
32 PGS./Rated T ...$3.99

The variant features Storm, Jubes and Gambit.

Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Nekobaghira on January 19, 2016, 01:32:00 PM
http://www.comicvine.com/articles/marvel-comics-april-2016-covers-and-solicitations/1100-154711/

CBR:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/marvels-april-2016-solicitations-introduce-black-panther-gwenpool-more

Gambit isn't on the cover Xmen'92, nor is he mentioned anywhere I could see.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: purplevit on January 19, 2016, 02:11:17 PM
It seems he will be in limbo until september :(

I think around this month we will get 2 new x books maybe. Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: AnimatedPhil on January 19, 2016, 02:42:57 PM
It seems he will be in limbo until september :(

I think around this month we will get 2 new x books maybe. Just my thoughts.


My thinking is that they are waiting to see the sales report from Uncanny Avengers 5 before moving forward with him.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Dantay on January 19, 2016, 03:12:21 PM
more events can they not just stop the events for a few years?
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Dantay on February 16, 2016, 12:20:01 PM
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/steve-rogers-is-captain-america-civil-war-ii-begins-marvel-may-2016-solicitations they promise this time Rogue will meet Gambit lol
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Sheba on February 17, 2016, 12:22:47 PM
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/steve-rogers-is-captain-america-civil-war-ii-begins-marvel-may-2016-solicitations they promise this time Rogue will meet Gambit lol

*proceeds to take this with an entire salt mine*

Oh look, Extraordinary #10 features one of the X-Men becoming a Horseman---gee, I wonder who that could possibly be!  ::)

It is interesting that Uncanny #7 seems to have a shoutout (possibly a retread?) of the Morlock Massacre, though.....
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Nekobaghira on February 17, 2016, 01:55:24 PM
*proceeds to take this with an entire salt mine*

Oh look, Extraordinary #10 features one of the X-Men becoming a Horseman---gee, I wonder who that could possibly be!  ::)

It is interesting that Uncanny #7 seems to have a shoutout (possibly a retread?) of the Morlock Massacre, though.....

A potential retcon of a retcon - LOL
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Dantay on February 17, 2016, 05:25:13 PM
*proceeds to take this with an entire salt mine*

Oh look, Extraordinary #10 features one of the X-Men becoming a Horseman---gee, I wonder who that could possibly be!  ::)

It is interesting that Uncanny #7 seems to have a shoutout (possibly a retread?) of the Morlock Massacre, though.....


who? i stopped reading after the Scott reveal, will it be Jean?...Nightcrawler oooooh Storm because the movie
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Dantay on March 22, 2016, 12:14:27 PM
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/civil-war-ii-erupts-deadpool-v-gambit-han-solo-marvel-june-2016-solicitations

X-MEN: THE TRIAL OF GAMBIT TPB
Written by SCOTT LOBDELL, BEN RAAB & STEVE SEAGLE
Penciled by JOE MADUREIRA, MELVIN RUBI, BRYAN HITCH, CHRIS BACHALO, ANDY SMITH & CARLOS PACHECO
Cover by JOE MADUREIRA
For years, they've loved each other from a safe distance. Now Rogue and Gambit will become closer than ever -- and it may shatter their lives permanently! For when Remy LeBeau's past actions are revealed, he'll be put on trial -- but who will serve as judge, jury and executioner? In other action, a suitably uncanny battle between Cannonball and Gladiator sends one squad of X-Men on its latest intergalactic adventure. Can they free the Shi'ar from the deadly grip of the Phalanx and return to Earth in one piece? Meanwhile, another team grapples with the Kingpin and Sebastian Shaw over a possible cure for the Legacy Virus! Plus: Flash back with Rachel Summers and Magneto, witness a furious Marrow take on Spider-Man, and meet the mighty Maggott! Collecting UNCANNY X-MEN (1981) #341-350 and #-1, and X-MEN (1991) #62-64 and #-1.
400 PGS./Rated T ...$34.99
ISBN: 978-1-302-90070-0
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Nekobaghira on April 19, 2016, 02:13:44 PM
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/civil-war-ii-battle-lines-are-drawn-in-marvel-comics-july-2016-solicitations

July Solicitations
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: purplevit on April 19, 2016, 04:45:15 PM
I like new cover.

Always liked when Gambit is stealing magic objects.


DEADPOOL V GAMBIT #2 (of 5)
Ben Acker & Ben Blacker (W) • DANILO BEYRUTH (A)
Cover by KEVIN P. WADA
VARIANT COVER BY TBA
• Deadpool and Gambit have put aside their differences to pull one last scam...
• ...swindling an object of mythical power out from under a Chinese businessman.
• Spoiler: It doesn't go according to plan. Can they talk their way out of this one?
32 PGS./Parental Advisory ...$3.99
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Nekobaghira on April 20, 2016, 08:09:13 AM
The cover is okay to me. I don't like the markings on Gambit's knuckles.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: andresa on April 20, 2016, 08:44:57 AM
I see two right feet.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Nekobaghira on April 20, 2016, 01:11:01 PM
Its not a great cover and I hadn't noticed the feet til you said something. They do look odd too. And he's wearing purple pants.  Yes, he rocks the purple well but again ... its just a funky pose or something.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Nekobaghira on June 21, 2016, 07:36:35 PM
Sept Solicits

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/civil-war-ii-tears-alliances-apart-in-marvel-comics-september-2016-solicitations

Issue 5 of DvG, last issue for the mini.
Title: Re: Marvel Solicits 2016 Thread
Post by: Nekobaghira on September 21, 2016, 11:40:17 AM
October 2016
http://www.cbr.com/civil-war-ii-vision-conclude-doom-is-iron-man-more-in-marvels-october-solicitations/

November 2016
http://www.cbr.com/civil-war-ii-concludes-marvel-now-explodes-in-marvels-november-2016-solicitations/

December 2016
http://www.cbr.com/marvel-comics-december-solicitations/

Solicits for the rest of the year from Marvel. No Gambit.