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Title: MMX 9
Post by: Nekobaghira on January 25, 2019, 06:06:18 PM
We've got 8 and 10. Here is 9.
Mr. and Mrs. X (2018-) #9  Gambit must use all his thieving skills to steal a precious object. Spiral must single-handedly (or is that multi-handedly?) fight off Mojo’s minions. And Rogue is on a mental trip reliving all her defining mutant memories. Not a great time for self-reflection, Rogue!

March 27th
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: purplevit on February 18, 2019, 03:46:35 PM
MMX 9


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dztw3ZDVsAAmYTC?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: Meliorist on February 18, 2019, 06:47:43 PM
That's a cool panel. Think he is doing a smiley face on glass like in X-Men: Evolution?
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: purplevit on February 19, 2019, 07:16:09 AM
That's a cool panel. Think he is doing a smiley face on glass like in X-Men: Evolution?


I though the same.
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: DonPriceTag on February 20, 2019, 08:41:12 PM
That's a cool panel. Think he is doing a smiley face on glass like in X-Men: Evolution?


That's what I figure.
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: purplevit on February 25, 2019, 04:54:24 PM
MMX 9


(https://community.cbr.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=78930&d=1551128393)
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: andresa on March 04, 2019, 05:44:41 PM
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/743f5879446bef8632ad0ef493404081/tumblr_pnv3s2XWu71qifkq2_540.jpg)
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: DonPriceTag on March 04, 2019, 05:46:18 PM
You move fast. I was in the middle of posting the same thing when this came up that you had!
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: Meliorist on March 04, 2019, 05:47:14 PM
That looks pretty gnarly!
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: RomeoSvengali on March 04, 2019, 07:04:21 PM
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/743f5879446bef8632ad0ef493404081/tumblr_pnv3s2XWu71qifkq2_540.jpg)

Going for a Blade Runner type scene, all that's missing is the music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fu7jN2_2pE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fu7jN2_2pE)
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: purplevit on March 05, 2019, 02:56:13 AM
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/743f5879446bef8632ad0ef493404081/tumblr_pnv3s2XWu71qifkq2_540.jpg)


Beautiful panel. Love it!
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: anya on March 05, 2019, 09:13:28 AM
Wow, that’s gorgeous!
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: M on March 05, 2019, 11:37:57 AM
Wow, that’s gorgeous!


WElcome to Gambit Guild. I think you might like it here :)
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: purplevit on March 11, 2019, 03:02:14 PM
MMX 9


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1ZcwJGVYAA2-EE?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: Meliorist on March 11, 2019, 06:01:26 PM
Oh, no smiley face... >.>I feel a little let down by that haha
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: andresa on March 21, 2019, 09:49:12 PM
Preview: https://www.superherohype.com/comics/440349-exclusive-preview-mr-and-mrs-9-put-gambit-in-a-new-heist?slideshow=11703#/slide/1 (https://www.superherohype.com/comics/440349-exclusive-preview-mr-and-mrs-9-put-gambit-in-a-new-heist?slideshow=11703#/slide/1)
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: belay on March 21, 2019, 10:30:17 PM
Preview: https://www.superherohype.com/comics/440349-exclusive-preview-mr-and-mrs-9-put-gambit-in-a-new-heist?slideshow=11703#/slide/1 (https://www.superherohype.com/comics/440349-exclusive-preview-mr-and-mrs-9-put-gambit-in-a-new-heist?slideshow=11703#/slide/1)


The artwork and the concept look amazing. I loved how Gambit was written here and the entire panel looked so freaking beautiful.
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: purplevit on March 22, 2019, 01:17:35 AM
Good preview. I like it!
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: purplevit on March 22, 2019, 08:12:09 AM
preview in a non-gallery format
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Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: andresa on March 22, 2019, 10:47:26 AM
First an egg that turned out to be a kid and now an actual baby. That's how you troll a newlywed couple.

Looking forward to reading this.
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: Dantay on March 22, 2019, 12:59:59 PM
the hood is so odd
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: purplevit on March 27, 2019, 04:32:40 PM
 #9 was fine. Gambit was cool. Rogue`s journey wasn`t exciting or shocking. Expected more. But overall this issue was fine.

Will see how arc will end in #10. Can`t wait for Guilds!!!

 
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: Dantay on March 27, 2019, 05:39:57 PM
aprt from not having a handle on Remys voice this issue was fun
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: andresa on March 28, 2019, 08:25:31 AM
Thought it was all right. Rogue's finding the core of the problem with her powers was oversimplified in my opinion but whatever I don't really care for her. 

The art was a little bit inconsistent. Gambit's characterization didn't bother me, though. I like that he committed to helping those people in the middle of his mission.   

The cut between the arc panel and him holding a baby was oddly abrupt. I have no idea what’s up with that baby since it's clear that only Gambit is seeing a baby and I don’t want to assume that’s what he wants to see. 
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: remydat on March 28, 2019, 11:25:55 AM
Couldn't be bothered to flip through it yesterday but flipped through it today and it was yet another Rogue controlling her powers story with a few cool moments mixed in.  It fell completely flat for me not only because it is an old tired story but because the solution was so utterly predictable and simple.  If you are going to rehash a story over and over, I was hoping KT actually had something insightful and unique to bring to that story but sadly she did not. 

The fact we waited 9 issues for such a disappointing resolution is amazing to me.  Should have just dealt with it in the Mini or early on in the comic and found something else to write about.  This series as a whole gives me the feeling of moving around chairs on the deck of the Titanic.  The chairs are nicely arranged and provides a good visual but at the end of the day the ship still has a gaping hole in it and is going to sink.  The sad thing is KT is a good writer but the stuff she chooses to focus on is just so uninspiring.
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: RomeoSvengali on March 28, 2019, 01:41:45 PM
It felt like a wasted opportunity for Thompson to really go into Rogue's past, such as the Genosha event, but I wonder if Marvel even allow that to be told in detail? But at least her memories in this story actually had some meaning to them, some self-reflection, since unlike in Legacy, that showed quick meaningless events, it was a instant fix with no explanation as to why she couldn't control her powers or how Xavier did it and what to do if she loses control of them again, but of course that was a talentless disgusting hack who wrote that. While "fear" makes it simplistic, at least it was an answer and that it's something that she'll always have to struggle with. Also, Rogue did admit that most of the problems between her and Gambit came from her, not because of her powers, that's no surprise to any Gambit fan, but nevertheless she did admit that.

It's crazy that this has gone on for so long, but this is the result of decades of one writer after the other not really bothering to do anything about Rogue's abilities. Whatever problems someone created it's the whole, oh it's the next person's problem, not mine.
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: Nekobaghira on March 28, 2019, 04:28:43 PM
I haven't read it ... haven't even been to the shop ..... so, just another issue all about Rogue and her powers ....  huh? *sigh* Thats too bad, there has to be some burn out somewhere. IMO.


 
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: remydat on March 28, 2019, 07:08:10 PM
It's crazy that this has gone on for so long, but this is the result of decades of one writer after the other not really bothering to do anything about Rogue's abilities. Whatever problems someone created it's the whole, oh it's the next person's problem, not mine.


Don't know that there was anything to really do though.  She is probably better off with limits which is why writers inevitably go back to her not being able to touch.  And this story does nothing to solve that because it has an instant out.  Anyone who wants Rogue to struggle with control will simply note that KT wrote that it is something that she will always have to deal with.  Thus, she can be written as losing control again and the reason why is already explained.  So in the end, this solves nothing.
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: Sparta on March 29, 2019, 10:58:53 AM
Well there's only 3 issues left then they're off to join a new team of sorts, whether it has an "X" in it or not, time will tell.


I'm in that camp that enjoys the book. Though in the last 2 issues, the Gambit parts have been far more interesting than the Rogue parts. Her part will divide many people, my criticism is that we've been here before with the flashbacks, which is tedious, but part of that blame is what happened in Remender's UA where he pulled Rogue back into that status to force this sort of story again...however I do prefer Rogue solving that problem on her own rather than Xavier's "quick fix" in Legacy...so I was content with that resolution, the "fear" makes it more manageable rather than something overly complex. Not the most interesting read, but that's fine.


Though the thing is with Rogue's uncertainty with her relationship with Gambit, is that this story needed to be written BEFORE X-Men Gold's shock wedding issue. The angst is overplayed, especially now that they're married. Wishy-Washy Rogue isn't doing her character any favours, that part needs to stop and I'd be disappointed if Rogue is judgemental over Gambit's role in the Thieves Guild while it's okay for Magneto and Deadpool to go off on their killing sprees (one of them being genocidal). Not saying KT''s Rogue is overly judgemental towards Gambit, it's mainly other writers that have written her that way...but Gambit does have that insecurity about it in this series (and the mini before it). In other words, Rogue needs to get over this uncertainty and maybe the end of this issue solves a lot of things.


But I really did enjoy the Gambit parts in this issue, he was in his element. I like the rope-gun (whatever they're called), very "Batman".
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: Dantay on March 29, 2019, 01:59:31 PM
Well there's only 3 issues left then they're off to join a new team of sorts, whether it has an "X" in it or not, time will tell.

It hasn't been canceled yet, it may keep going
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: purplevit on March 29, 2019, 02:45:44 PM
KT ignored all questions about ending. I am sure #12 is last issue.


But of course it may be relaunched later.
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: Sparta on March 29, 2019, 03:25:14 PM
It hasn't been canceled yet, it may keep going


It's technically not cancelled yet. But there's no hints of a 13th issue and JDW said that both characters will join a team they've never been involved with before. While MMX's sales are declining, I also think that a "Honeymoon" concept (with action of course) probably doesn't have the "narrative legs" to go beyond 12 issues. If say MMX went on for 30+, it would fatigue. I'm probably at that stage now that i'm ready to see both characters get back into a team book.


That said, it's an enjoyable book for me, and I'm glad to see Gambit in a series with generally positive reviews if you look up comicbookroundup or goodreads etc there's some pretty good results there. I know it's not for everyone here, and I understand that, but I'm glad there are further plans for him and he won't be back in limbo which I was mainly concerned with post-MMX.
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: Nekobaghira on March 29, 2019, 04:14:27 PM
While I don't have a clue if its cancelled or not. It hasn't been a sales burner for a long time.

Feb 2019 it was at $16k.
https://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2019/2019-02.html (https://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2019/2019-02.htmlJan)
 
Jan 2019 $17k


I don't know if there are no legs as it were but most of the thing is .... Rogue and her powers for 14 issues (including the mini) is too many. Clean it up and move on, imo.

Edit: And if they stay married, at this point, I think I'd like a different take on it then the one we're getting. - that is just me.
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: remydat on March 29, 2019, 05:17:18 PM
It has no legs because they never got to the premise of the book.  This was not a couple celebrating their marriage and working through stuff together.  This was the same old tired story about Rogue in which Gambit does nothing to resolve any issues.  In the mini, it was Lavish that helps Rogue and in this it is Magneto earlier and now Spiral that does so.  I have yet to see Gambit have any meaningful role in helping his wife deal with her s***.  He just jumps around while Rogue and others do all the heavy lifting emotionally.


I have no clue what KT thinks a marriage is about but it seems everyone but Gambit can help Rogue which begs the question as to why she married him in the first place.




Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: Nekobaghira on March 30, 2019, 09:05:15 AM
I don't know either with KT's view. But I will say ... there ARE women writers who can and do write strong characters in a romance that is not one sided. Where both shine in their own way. Men CAN write romance. Trying to be fair for the sexes. LOL

Characters with the history these two have need to be handled in a manner that is respectful to them both.

If TV can do this, shouldn't comic books be able to? Just a thought.
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: anya on March 30, 2019, 11:29:13 AM
I agree that it didn’t need more of rogue’s power drama. I’d disagree that gambit has been useless in ‘helping’. He ‘talked her down’ when her powers really went haywire and got spiral’s memory machine therapy’ All magneto said was, talk to your man (he’s the gay friend now, lol) Spiral could be argued , helped the most, but she basically said go through you’re memories and figure out your issues, and hurry, i’m busy right now! So however the memory machine thing worked was the most help.


Although you guys should appreciate that once again, rogue confirmed that most her problems and her problems with gambit were all her fault, lol.
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: DonPriceTag on March 30, 2019, 11:01:33 PM
It was cool. I liked that Rogue's habit for being afraid was finally addressed out loud. I was hoping KT would have gone deeper into the Genosha incident. It's only ever been hinted and suggested but in today's age of women not able to be victims, wasn't expecting it.


If this book ends on 12 or 13 I'm cool. I'll move on. Not a big deal. Nothing is a big deal. Like this eons more than Red (which I own the whole run of but still don't care enough to finish). I'm looking forward to the next arc, because everyone here should know I love Guild lore. Peace.
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: remydat on April 01, 2019, 05:02:20 PM
I agree that it didn’t need more of rogue’s power drama. I’d disagree that gambit has been useless in ‘helping’. He ‘talked her down’ when her powers really went haywire and got spiral’s memory machine therapy’ All magneto said was, talk to your man (he’s the gay friend now, lol) Spiral could be argued , helped the most, but she basically said go through you’re memories and figure out your issues, and hurry, i’m busy right now! So however the memory machine thing worked was the most help.

Although you guys should appreciate that once again, rogue confirmed that most her problems and her problems with gambit were all her fault, lol.


Fine he helped one time mainly because he was there.  Otherwise, Rogue would probably have gone looking for someone else to talk to or confide in.  I would have liked to see more of Gambit actually helping her get to the heart of the issue was my point.  He out of everyone should have been able to help her realize it was her fear driving things.  I mean if it was obvious to us readers, it should be obvious to the dude that has spent the most time with her.
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: Nekobaghira on April 01, 2019, 07:09:25 PM
I think if its a duo book, and they're married and are going through issues, wouldn't you want your spouse to be the one to help you? I wouldn't go to my neighbor/friends when I have a husband I can count on and have.
Why is there a need for all the guest stars to boost Rogue. Thoughts out loud. Treat as rhetorical if you want.
Title: Re: MMX 9
Post by: Dantay on April 01, 2019, 08:40:41 PM
technically Gambits been helping all along, it's how devoted he is to her that made her realize how s*** she is thus sorting her dumbass out, i like the issue but that stupid line Rogue: I'm ready for everything & i want it all.......well no s*** your married what else is there, steller writing with that one and the forced attempt at humor after wards not to mention her poor attempts at Gambits voice, everything else about the issue was good, the action is fun but on second read through thos bits irked me.