Wow, that says something. When the most positive folks find a book G is in as s***. Oof.
Don noted on twitter that perhaps the writer and artist are not on the same page.
Hard to get behind DoX when your favourite character is written like complete crap. I know many are complaining about Laura in Fallen Angels and Jean under Hickman, but Gambit is probably the worst written character overall. Probably a front-runner of worst character for 2020 so far. I hear Hickman will be working closely with Howard in this next arc, that leaves me with less confidence considering that Hickman didn't even bother to throw Gambit in a panel in that big Krakoan party in HoX...and he used hundreds of mutants in that event. So don't expect much.
That said, ironically Gambit is the only one that speaks with the most sense. For the life of me, I don't understand how you would allow Apocalypse to order everyone around, and be on the Quiet Council. At the very least Gambit sees through his bs, that's all I've got! Other than that, he's incompetent and obnoxious.
I disagree on one point you made. Apocalypse 100% deserves to be on the Quiet Council. For the Krakoa model to work - unlike Jean's half-baked plan in Red - everyone has to be on board. All the mutant power houses and influencers have to tow the line or anything that happens outside of the island would be blamed on them. No different a terrorist group that originates from a country, but said nation does nothing to intervene. They'd be tasked with hunting down their own simultaneously destroying any semblance of unity, thus injuring their bid to be recognized as a real nation.
It's why Sinister is there. They aren't stopping him from experimenting, just making him do it on the island. It's why the Hell Fire Club is still doing business, just under the Krakoan banner. Look at Selene and Emplate - both are active members of the society, at the same time fulfilling a purpose and still feeding themselves at the same time. Exodus is there doing what he does best, protecting the mutant race and seeing that it flourishes.
If Apocalypse was out there doing his own thing, it'd sabotage the whole endeavor. Him wanting to be there and being there makes sense. Its not about being "good enough" or "evil". Its about making it work. What doesn't work for me is the fact that he's a member of an action team. That's nonsense. The man is beyond needing a team. He employs lackies and cohorts (the horsemen) because he doesn't want to bother himself with the unworthy - and he also cant be everywhere at once. By all means, he should be doing for Excalibur, what Sinister does for Fallen Angels. Doesn't get involved, just pulls strings and councils where he sees fit.
I skimmed through the book at the store yesterday... I haven't hated a run this much since Milligan, and I quit comics for the better part of a decade because of that. At least Milligan's writing was decipherable. This was horrible. No one acts or sounds like they should in this book. Apocalypse is talking WAAAAAY too much and must have had a stroke because his vocabulary is horrid. That's not Apocalypse's voice. Those aren't the speech patterns of someone from Ancient Egypt and that's been worshiped as a god for centuries.
Gambit.... my goodness... Gambit, what has this hack done to you? This book has three draws. Psylocke, Rogue and Gambit. Probably in that order. The first has been consistently used and been a focal character for years. Mostly since her initial Uncanny X-Force run. Rogue and Gambit just came off nearly two years of starring in their own books. Rogue has spent the majority of this run just off-panel. When she was awake she was barely recognizable from a character standpoint.
Gambit... he's a moron. Rictor, Rictor of all people called him an idiot this issue. RICTOR IS A FAMOUS AIR-HEAD! What the #$#% does a writer get off using him to belittle Gambit? Gambit's not stupid! Impulsive, sure - but not to a fault. He's a master thief, which means he's calculating. He's definitely not dumb enough to get into a fist fight with Apocalypse! No one this side of the HULK should ever be able to win a fist fight against him! The man just took on THREE NIMRODS a couple months ago! Nimrods! Three! And you telling me, Gambit a seasoned X-Man would throw a punch at him? What the #$@#?!
Of course, Rogue comes in and just does something she, entire teams of X-Men or even Thor hasn't been able to do and just thrashes this man without missing a beat? GTFOH.... I boiled down the weird pacing to Tini and the artist not being on the same page, but that last page didn't in anyway fit the dialogue to the panel. I don't think Tini really knows what shes doing at all. I cant believe people are eating this up. Its bad and nonsensical. The biggest parts of this book is just a mess. The stuff that does work is dwarfed by what doesn't. Its bad.
Keep in mind Apocalypse wanted Rogue to kill him, that explains why Rogue "beat" him so easily. Your explanations of Apocalypse on the Quiet Council is very plausible. I'll probably have to look at it that way myself. But yes, Apocalypse's dialogue is woeful, and personally he's not all that compelling for me to drive this book. Not sure how long he'll be sidelined for, he's on the cover of the next issue and a few more following it.
The problem with this book is that there's far too much thrown in, we're talking Apocalypse's motives and trying to "align the stars", Betsy becoming the new Captain Britian, Druids and Rictor, comatose Rogue and her visions, Shogo the Dragon, the throne in Otherworld. That's a lot of material for just 5 issues. It's like watching the last season of Game of Thrones where everything was rushed to get all the characters where they needed to be. And maybe Hickman has something to do with this too considering that he's pretty much the editor of these books and is working closely with Tini in this next arc.
There was this one panel about Apocalypse analysing Gambit on the ground saying that there might be something inside him that he needs, that part got me intrigued.
Speculation that Maxime and Manon are Rogue and Gambit's children have resurfaced. I know the twins are in New Mutants, I've read their bios and there's quite a few things that connect. Rogue's pregnancy is once again teased. For me the cover gives it away and all that baby talk and motifs in MMX. I'm just about 100% convinced that she's pregnant (or will be pregnant)...and I've been so for months now.
Here's my thing about Rogue "killing" Apocalypse. That doesn't really vibe either. Of course, she should be pissed but going from what happened to her to murder? The dialogue between them didn't say "I'm going to kill you" it said "I'm very angry" . Rogue is very cautious about using her powers in that way. She'll drain just about anyone, but to death? Rogue? She murdered Scarlet Witch but didn't drain her and she actually had real beef with her (don't get me wrong that was ooc too). When Rogue goes that far with her powers the victim can get stuck in her head... Permanently. She regretted draining Mystique like that, you think she'd just do the same with Apocalypse? Nah. Don't buy it. The story or the book. I'm saddened that it's cannon now.
That goes back to bad pacing and script issues.
Let me get something straight, they let Apocalypse, political position notwithstanding, pound Gambit into the ground because he deserved it, but stand back and let Rogue murder Apocalypse? Betsy is now plenty fast and strong enough to intervene. No passes for me. No brownie points for some sort of "heart warming reunion".
I'm getting tired of the CBR thing also. I have tried seeing it from every angle but people aren't up for any sort of serious discussion. Either you write short "I love it" posts and they are happy or you write longer posts with valid points and get few or next to none responses. Then some troll posts about the negative posters and lately they throw in a line that they like it because Gambit is written bad.
I noticed this, a couple of the posters over there are so dead set on the DOX/POX era being a success that they won't except other people having a differing opinion. Thankfully it's only a handful of posters, 95% of people there hate Excalibur.
I'm a fan of DOX/POX but it's a shame that Gambit is in the bland book, he'd fit in so well in a couple of the other titles. I think the writer just sees Gambit as Rogues ineffective husband...... and that's it. The most i think we'll get is another arc of Gambit as Deathbit again via Apocalypse.
I'm getting tired of the CBR thing also. I have tried seeing it from every angle but people aren't up for any sort of serious discussion. Either you write short "I love it" posts and they are happy or you write longer posts with valid points and get few or next to none responses. Then some troll posts about the negative posters and lately they throw in a line that they like it because Gambit is written bad.
They are quick to ban at CBR. It's hard to have a discussion there when you have to censor yourself. Purposely skirt ideologies for not wanting to be banned. And some bans are short, others longer.
When I post there, I constantly have to re-word my response because if someone reports the post, banned. Then I spend the time to give a positive because again, its difficult to have a discussion there. After the third of fourth edit, I'm almost in eff it mode. LOL Not to mention the rigmarole for explaining that you're not attacking anyone else's opinion, so that you can give yours. It's fatiguing.
It's clear, all that is wanted there is "I love it" type stuff. Nobody wants to actually delve into the whats wrong or right with the stories. To look at the nuances and figure out what is intriguing or not about the story.
This has been going for far too long. It's only the mom and pop places where you can actually say what you think and survive. :)
My opinion, of course. LOL Sorry its habit now, ingrained.
Edit, I even edit too much here. pfft. Too funny to me.
Icefanatic has forum too. Small like here but safe to have an opinion.http://abetterplace.boards.net/ (http://abetterplace.boards.net/)
Back in the day, before Carey, I had my idea of fixing the deathbit mess. Visually it would be a reverse of of color. White skin, black hair more in the defying gravity style Gambit has. Red eyes and probably more nods to Sinisters involvment. Power wise it would be more of a death energy thing. A play on his normal powers. Not perfect by any means but at least more useful and visually interesting then what we got. I wanted Gambit and Angel and some others to assemble a team to hunt down Apocalypse and stop him before the next thing he had planned. Just to try to salvage the mess Milligan had left.I like your idea for Deathbit. I never liked the gas power, it never made sense and it was the joke Milligan wanted to write and Quesada let him.
On Excalibur I recently did a reread of Gambit's moments. With the exception of caring for Rogue nothing about it says Gambit or requires it to be Gambit. His powers are not used. I repeat this to emphasise how bad it is. His powers are not used in any way that requires it to be Gambit in that spot. He charms no one. Has no references to earlier relationships. Sure he distrusts Apocalypse but that A-hole has screwed over so many X-mens that you can slot some other character in there. Agility is nonexistent, even worse we have the looney toones moment when he falls in the chasm. There is further more no wit or elegance in his dialouge or movements. Looking at this and the few facts we know about the process behind the book it's hard to think Tini picked Gambit.That is disappointing. It does bother me that those of you still spending time and money on these books are so disappointed with the product.
That is disappointing. It does bother me that those of you still spending time and money on these books are so disappointed with the product.
Unpopular opinion incoming, Gambit has been treated poorly by two women writers. We talk about what he used to be and while Asmus wasn't perfect nor was PAD (though the first few issues weren't bad) until PAD lost interest. Honestly, looking ANXF, it was the Georgia/Quicksilver show. But at least Gambit had some of his created traits.
Outside of action sequences, nothing of importance happened in KT's books. While I know some are completely satisfied with that, it doesn't change the fact there was no story for Gambit. The villain in the mini tailor made for Rogue.
Where would Howard get anything from that, if she is basing her view on the prior book/s, outside of marriage nothing to work with. It's not surprising that he is written they way he is. Sounds like she doesn't have his voice or knows any attributes of the character outside of marriage.
There is nothing wrong with marriage but if any character can take his place then why did they bother with it. That element is not getting anything that would give the relationship merit beyond it just being there.
I made a pact with myself. Twice, the first time was the mini and ongoing. I broke that pact by supporting a book that I didn't like. This time, I've stuck to my pact. I'm not spending money on characters I don't like and Gambit no longer lures me in to break my pact.
My sympathies to those who have been gung-ho with the books that are being let down. I know I gave up but there is nothing so disappointing than spending money for 20 pages of poor content.
My comments are for the sake of discussion and to move us back to Gambit. LOL
Nothing personal, nothing antagonistic, just rolling out an opinion. :)
I agree with that and I think it's true not just of Gambit but of a number of characters and books. You get a mediocre run, a bad run, another mediocre run... Unless you get a writer with a deep love and understanding of the character and a desire to return them to form, you tend to get a continuation of that. Both Mr. and Mrs. X and X-Men Gold were mediocre books that spent time treading water and retreading old stuff, and yet they got praise from many longtime fans often because they mostly weren't actively crapping on the characters. Iceman in Marauders is basically a continuation of Sina Grace's divisive run with the character from the Iceman solo, so for fans who were hoping for a return to a more classic interpretation of that character... forget it. You could make list.
Excalibur has big problems besides just Gambit. Rogue, Apocalypse and Jubilee are all off on characterization. The story is being poorly told and doesn't make a lot of sense. I don't see a fix for that without a change in writer. I also don't see a chance in hell of that happening. TH seems to be a trendy writer for Marvel who is getting a push right now, so if the book gets canned eventually due to low sales I expect the characters and the fans will get the blame, not the writer.
I realised after issue 1 or 2 of Excalibur that I had read something else from Tini. She released a 4 issue mini about Death's head just before excalibur. I grew up with Death's Head 2 so there is some attachement to that corner of Marvel. I only got through 3 issues of that mini. First issue was ok then it got jumbled and messy. She introduced 1 new character: Death's head 3 that was mostly cringy to read. She wrote a ok relationship with Wiccan-Hulkling but that was due to going with the neverending stream of conciousness dialouge mode with them. It drowned out the pages and got a bit boring. Her villain was not a threat. Overall it was written for Young readers that haven't seen Jar Jar binks yet.
KT in general disapointed with to much focus on Rogue. Still there was some good Gambit moments in her Mr&Mrs X run. There was just to few considering it should have been a 50/50 book.
Favorite Gambit writers the latest 10 years:
1: Marjorie Liu(Asmus wrote him with more style but Liu had the character interactions. Loved her Paris arc in X-23)
2: James Asmus. Got the charm and danger.
3: Tom Taylor. Fun, Dangerous, competent and respected by other X-men.
4: KT. Wrote mostly ROMY and while I enjoyed that I missed other aspects of gambit. Last arc was her best Gambit wise.
5: Jeremy Whitely. Wrote X-men monster Unleashed one-shot. Had some fun with Gambit and Laura. Potential in this guy, witch Marvel seems to have missed.
CBR has gone very hive mind and protective about Hickman and hox. It’s either you love it think it’s brilliant or you’re an idiot (and secretly racist) if you don’t like it.
From Death's Head, to Bêlit, to Strikeforce and now Excalibur, Tini simply can't write any character right, she either thinks it's great or she doesn't care. I've lost count as to how many times the people at CBR have gotten info wrong, they and WatchMojo.com have so many pointless and inaccurate lists, all they do is read from wiki or reddit or not even that. Their profiles say that there comic book, video game, and movie nerds, but that's a crock of s**t. I remember some Summer Special issues that had 48 PAGES! NO ADS!
https://comiconlinefree.com/the-punisher-summer-special/issue-1 (https://comiconlinefree.com/the-punisher-summer-special/issue-1)
But those are separate storylines and the last few pages are usually just an art gallery.
I wouldn`t expect anything good or new for Gambit sooner then Fall 2020.
Excalibur will have at least 12 issues. I think it will end on #12 and then new big crossover will start on June or July for 3 monthes. Of course Gambit will be in limbo the whole Summer because Hickman hates him.
If we will be lucky then he will get some new project or will be just a mutant #8 in some satellite team book again that will start on October or November.
Precisely.It seems indeed, a new creative team puts hands on him. . .
How long have we been hoping that Gambit will be back to being what he used to be every time he’s in a new book or a new writer puts their hands on him? I've lost count. Gambit continues to be repeatedly screwed over.
Cautiously optimistic about this. As long as gambit is given some love and that it's established quickly how, if, much part of this he will have.Me too.
Congratulations to Remydat, he's going to be a Daddy! Yay! I know he doesn't visit here often but I wanted those here to know. :)
From Remydat at CBR
"Apologies to everyone wishing me congrats as I am not having a baby. When I said currently unborn baby, just meant that said hypothetical child had not been conceived yet rather than a baby being on the way. Poor choice of words as I read it again in light of the responses.
However, I did get engaged in China last week so there is hope for the future."
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Lol I got banned for making a joke about there not being a Romy baby.I wuv you. In a respectful friend way. Gambit is nothing but an attachment to Rogue and that is hard to read.
I think I’m gonna trade wait Excalibur just because it pisses the Romy shippers off. Yeah, Gambit’s portrayal sucks, but someone could come in and say, “I NEED to write Gambit.” At this point though, I just want to bask in Romy shippers displeasure.
Fakenews! ;D
Congrats on the engagement!
I wrote an article about Children of the Atom. It'll be posted soon but I dont believe that they are "side kicks". Whoever this Ayala woman is, she wrote them "like" they were sidekicks. I think this is an elseoworld story that takes place during the 9th life of Moira MacTaggert, or in the near future, but still along the same lines. In the 9th life of Moira, she and Apocalypse allowed Sinister to create what became known as Chimera- custom made mutant soldiers to fight the machine-mutant alliance. The first generation were people with singular powers from past mutants. Which would explain why that girl seems to have Gambit's powers. Later generations had up four power sets like what we saw in Rasputin.
In the 9th life this took place years into the future. This may be the same. IMO Children of the Atom telling the story of that world, or something that happens years for now. Ayala says that they "grew up with posters of Storm and Wolverine" Only way for that to happen is for it to take place years or decades for now... In short, this'll have nothing to do with Gambit. To be honest, if you were Marvel, would you trust a cast of Jean, Cyclops, Angel, Gambit and Nightcrawler to someone that's never written the X-Men, at all? Nah.
I wuv you. In a respectful friend way. Gambit is nothing but an attachment to Rogue and that is hard to read.
If romys can't see how bad this is, well .. its on them.
This is the worst couple ever. Gambit has been reduced, think of that as in a cooking thing. He is nothing compared to Rogue. My goodness, can't we kiss her ass more because Gambit is nobody compared to her.
You've got nothing to refute. Gambit has been reduced.
Turns out Excaliber #6 seemed to upset the romys at the other place. While I feel for them, it was good to see the blinders off and actually see what the Gambit only fans have seen for some time.
When you can read a comment like - "you couldn't try harder much to alienate Gambit's fans" - that says something.
By AppleJ at CBR
I'm seriously at a loss with this book. You couldn't have tried much harder to alienate Gambit fans. There is absolutely no Blue Team synergy. Rogue and Gambit feel unbalanced and out of character half the time. I didn't find it fun or funny overall save a cute moment here or a neat idea there (firepupRachel, dragon Shogo) and a few sexy panels. It's not hitting me emotionally even when it tries, the plot has seemed almost pointless and yet the characters still seem to serve the plot moreso than the story serving them. It felt like sitting in a room watching other people playing DnD where the characters are just a basic outline, no one can act, and not much actually gets accomplished. There were no amazing fight scenes. At the end of this they still don't feel like any kind of cohesive team. The art has been gorgeous throughout but it's not enough to save the book for me. I still don't know what mutant magic is.
Lol I got banned for making a joke about there not being a Romy baby.
I think I’m gonna trade wait Excalibur just because it pisses the Romy shippers off. Yeah, Gambit’s portrayal sucks, but someone could come in and say, “I NEED to write Gambit.” At this point though, I just want to bask in Romy shippers displeasure.
Just read it for free.
https://comiconlinefree.com/comic/excalibur-2019 (https://comiconlinefree.com/comic/excalibur-2019)
Another thing to point out:
Gambit is almost surely gonna be making appearances in Children of the Atom, so hopefully Vita can deliver on good Gambit content even if he isn’t a star of the book (and I’ll admit that the idea of Gambit having a sidekick type character sounds fun, I just hope they all have different names. As much as love Kate Bishop and Laura’s stint as Wolverine, it’s led to some arguments and jokes that I’m tired of at this point).
I like ROMY. More in theory then what we have gotten on the pages. It should be a no-brainer couple for marvel. Especially for Rogue writers. Here is a character who should love Rogue and let her be herself, because that's the girl he loves. Not this dotting one note punchingbag. Rogue writers should be overjoyed. Pair her up with any other character and they would control her, dot on her or move her away from her roots. Magneto for instance could never have such a free spirited partner. He is all about control and he doesn't conform.
If this is what Marvel wants then lets break them up. When Gambit was single too little was done with that. When he's with Rogue he's just a moon orbiting her. Historically Gambit writers have written a better Rogue then the opposite. So bring in a Gambit fan as a writer. Give the ROMY marriage one last try and then we will see what happens.
R0d: CBR:
Saved the worst for last, man Rogue and Gambit are unbearable in this book, when a writer makes you hate your favorites characters, you know things are beyond bad.
Talking about Rogue, she seems cold and uncaring towards Gambit, making it all the more jarring given that Gambit acts in the exact opposite way. That difference makes Gambit look completely emasculated and just pathetic.
PS: For those in the Gambit and Rogue pro-divorce camp, if the baby ain't happening then this might be an easy way out in the future and it's pretty simple actually, Gambit wants to have kids at some point but Rogue is determined that she would never want that, then boom clean divorce and no one comes out of it looking like an awful person or a cheater or dead.
Other than horrid characterization of Gambit throughout this "book" my biggest irk is how this was presented. Rogue has spent 4 out 6 books in a box. She emerges from it, murders Apocalypse in one and then declares that she has no interest in ever having children in the next ... That's not an impossible development. But you know what would have helped? Seeing her come to such a thought logically.
This is a comic book. We have access to her mind. This Tini could have shown us these nightmares she was having throughout the 4 issues she was sidelined. Let us emphasize with her. Relate to her. Not just basically say "because". What was also weird is that Gambit was just "oh well". I'd say Gambit was just being supportive and maybe we'll get a more candid response, but... You know that's not happening.
Like you said Neko, this is a discussion that happens waaaaay before now. Gambit should have had some sort of reaction other than that, but I don't think Tini has it in her to competently navigate a mature discussion from both sides of this particular argument. All we're going to get is Gambit saying "yes, dear". I've NEVER used the word cuck but @&##&# @&#&#.
Yes it's her body. She should have final say. But that's not how marriage works. At least not it's supposed to work. The fact that Gambit has no say in such a decision should have been what made him at least question it. She had a bad dream, so she shut down her womb? That's it? Case closed? Tini's a hack.
I keep thinking about AoA Rogue with her son Charles. Or exile character Magnus, who ofc is the son of Rouge and Magneto. Both times Rogue is a very devoted mother and happy that she has a child. A character who wanted children.
Tini either doesn’t understand how bad she is or she doesn’t care? It’s like she is trying to provoke us with how she jumps from bad interaction to another.
Pregnancy is a question for the woman if she wants to or not. Her body, her choice. At least that’s my stance. Either way the reason to stay is equally Gambits. There where talks about how they wanted a family. If she changes her mind then Gambit can just as easy change his about the marriage.
I’m amazed how bad this is. Tini manages to makes us feel that she both has to many pages and to few to tell this story. She skips important scenes and talks while giving us either to decompressed nothing scenes or too compressed important scenes. Its amazing.
You forgot Becca and Oliver from The End/ GeneXt
And 100% you can't force anyone to have a child. But you also can't just change your mind due to a bad dream without a WTF fueled discussion to follow it. That's a huge blindside. Not just to Gambit but the fans that understand this character.
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Remy LeCuck.
Ugh.
Can't tell if that is an upgrade from Racky LeBeau or not.
Irene, Rogue and Gambit's kid from a Captain Marvel issue written by KT.Not the most original character design, but it’s cute that she has ‘dad’s eyes.’
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Hmm... I'm still hoping Gambit and company aren't in this book at all and that all this is a story of what occurred during Moira's 9th life. Otherwise, this isn't going to make much sense without a bunch of reaching and suspension of disbelief.
My hope/theory:
All "sidekicks" are in fact various chimera created from the DNA templates of the X-Men we know.
Why:
The first gen Chimera possessed only one power and were considered "fodder" due to not being able to last very long in battle against the powerful man/machine forces. Vita (writer) described her creations as people that "grew up with posters of Storm/ Wolverine". That's basically impossible, assuming that's exactly what she meant.
I've seen a few horrible ideas online, not horrible as in 'bad idea' but not something I could imagine that anyone would want to read. Ive seen people pitch that they are using "super suits" or that they are cosplayers. While the 'super suit' idea stinks, but isn't too ridiculous - who in the world would want to read a book about some cosplayers? There does exist a cult of mutant worshipers and they could easily be members of them, but again... a book about that? I'd much rather this be about the Chimera, the lives they led, the propaganda they were fed and how it all led to the fall of Mars, and the exodus to Shi'ar space station Benevolence and conscription into the empire's armed forces.
Cates wrote Venom, right?
I also don't think it happened just by chance. Cates may genuinely want to write the book and with it being open season on X-Men, he may see this as a way of creating interest. Who knows.
Cates wrote Venom, right?
Anyone else notice a sudden up-tick in Gambit related media on Twitter between yesterday and today?More than usual. Dawn of X vol 3 might be something. Gambit is on the cover anyway. Guess we'll find out then how much Hickman likes Gambit.
More than usual. Dawn of X vol 3 might be something. Gambit is on the cover anyway. Guess we'll find out then how much Hickman likes Gambit.
Anyone else notice a sudden up-tick in Gambit related media on Twitter between yesterday and today?
They're collecting all 6 on-goings? Glad you told me. I liked the cover but Gambit isn't in it, not buying. LOL
Nah. It is just a trade cover for #3 issues of all 6 ongoings.
I don't think anything concerning the Disney machine is an accident. When projects start coming up the same thing happens on YouTube. Creators with no connection to each other all start dropping videos along the same topics. I wouldn't be surprised if that was tweet was planned, or at least something to test the waters. Which does bode well for your "support the idea" push. Oh, the article is written. Just being edited and waiting to be published.
They're collecting all 6 on-goings? Glad you told me. I liked the cover but Gambit isn't in it, not buying. LOL
Technically, it’s the number 3 issues of all the ongoing. So gambit is in it, but in Excalibur 3, which you probably don’t really want. ;) and is it just me or is that a bizarre way to collect for a trade?Explains all the names on the cover. Heh heh, I see what they're are doing. Those who trade wait will have to buy all the volumes to get the whole thing instead of buying just the one trade for whatever is the favored book. Clever, may backfire but I guess we'll see how that marketing works. It's a complete-ist nightmare.
I see Fantomex is coming back. Didn't Gambit owe him some kind of favor from Astonishing? Was that ever revealed?
...so, he's brushing her hair?This just fuels my suspicions about the writer's pov, that it is from a perspective that lacks knowledge of this coupling because it is not relatable to that person.
Seriously, though, what the @&#& is going on?!
Gambit the only one not drinking the kool-aid that is Apocalypse.
From the romy thread at the other place. Excaliber #7
Gambit is still angry. Rogue lost some IQ, nor does she support her husband. As in he expresses frustration and distrust of Poccy, and Rogue doesn't care, not empathic at all.
Why are they married? Seriously, this is a farce and is not a good representation of marriage in general.
Gambit's powers were ineffectual.
Gambit the only one not drinking the kool-aid that is Apocalypse. The rest of cast making fun of him and he had to be saved by Betsy. What happened to his powers? We don't know.
7 issues in and mutant magic still not explained.
Edit: from the review thread, its believed that Gambit is behaving the way he is as possible pay off later of "I told you so" type thing, that showcasing his convictions may lead to that. Still, Rogue is not supportive of him or his fears.
I have lots I could say but will hold my tongue for now.
Whatever sort of payoff on that Apocalypse plotline with Gambit won't be enough. It has gone on for too long and especially too deep. It feels like Tini knows the end goal and thinks that whatever abuse Gambit suffers now will be worth it later on. It's just so bad. Not only does it require Gambit to behave like an idiot with the warwolf scene it also requires the rest of the team to bully him, kindergarten style. Betsy is the worst X-men leader I have seen. It's a real hatchetjob on her when she's with her team.
Best case scenario: Gambit quits the team. Tells Betsy some harsh truths and then the rest of the team can fend for themselves. Rogue will then skip into support role for Betsy, where Tini wants her. She can be her BFF and tell her how strong she is.
I can't even remember that much interaction between Rogue and Betsy. Even when they have been on so many teams through the years.
This issue is the first that even the reviewrs are questioning. It's down from 9's to one or two 6's. My takeaway: comicreviewrs are a joke. It's mollycodling all teh way. If I was a writer or artist I would just skip reading them. If I worked for Marvels PR department I would read them.
If he gets that payoff, for what we know, Betsy will take the credit.
The story itself was more coherent than the previous ones, it flowed a lot better, but I wasn't too keen on the art...and the characters remain off. Betsy seems fine (though gullible), but I'm bored with the Braddock dynamic.
Gambit will be in this for the long haul I think, there's been seeds planted and he's part of Apocalypse's plans. It sounds like it's building up to a Horseman plot, Rogue and Rictor are already connected to Apocalypse and Gambit's a former Horseman and hasn't technically fully recovered from. Remember the Horseman played a role on HoX/Pox. They're not going to just have Gambit abruptly leave and abandon the plot, they are going to follow through with it.
Hatchet job incoming...
https://youtu.be/nDL2r2tNKZ4 (https://youtu.be/nDL2r2tNKZ4)
Hatchet job incoming...
https://youtu.be/nDL2r2tNKZ4 (https://youtu.be/nDL2r2tNKZ4)
Lords of the Long Box Rumour: Gambit series is planned by Disney.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Yv5u5Ct8fw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Yv5u5Ct8fw)
Characters being reserved for it. Probably Disney + or even Hulu if darker. Very early in concept.
Kevin Feige really likes a character. He wants to do like a modern take on Maverick. It is going to be based in Nola.
Characters that Marvel wants to use for an upcoming Gambit MCU Series:
- Thieves and Assassins Guilds
- Etienne Marceaux – Probably a flashback
- Marauders
- Candra
- Pig
- Bella Donna Boudreux
Gambit Series to be kind of a modern western set in NOLA.
Tatum is definitely not playing. Probably a younger actor.
Rogue is tied up to Captain Marvel. Probably won`t appear.
I remember way back when with Nicieza writing the Gambit solo, he was in a chat about the character and was asked if they should make a movie. He said, that he would rather see Gambit in a TV show set in NOLA. That it would work better for the character. I don't have his exact words, heck, I don't even have that saved anywhere anymore. He definitely thought the character would benefit more from the small screen than the big screen. :)
According to this source they have they want to make NOLA something of a hub of activity for the mcu going forward. If true, you gotta tell Gambits story.
If they are researching storyline and characters for this show, I hope they talk to Nicieza and pick his brain. Not just Claremont.
A Gambit series based in NOLA... Why didn't we come up with that? Sheesh...Because you are not a Hollywood genius like Fiege. If you were, you could come up with something awesome like this. :p
A Gambit series is all well and good, but, I'd far prefer to see him on the big screen. I fear a Disney+ show means less likely he'll end up on the big screen. I know rights were an issue, but still, we never saw Daredevil or Punisher (even in cameos) during Marvel phase 1-4. Hell, we never even got a cameo from Couslon or anyone from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
I want the ragin' cajun mixing it up on a theatre screen with Wolverine, Cyclops, etc.
Gambit Movie Reportedly Back On Track, New Actor Eyed For Lead
https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/gambit-movie-reportedly-track-marvel-studios/ (https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/gambit-movie-reportedly-track-marvel-studios/)
Marvel apparently likes the current script and wants to make the movie as soon as possible.
They’ll recast the main role and are apparently looking to bring back one of the many directors who was originally attached, Gore Verbinski. Of course, many won’t believe Gambit is actually happening until they actually sit down in the theater to watch it, but we’re told that it’s back on track and Marvel is hoping to get it into production soon.
Man purplevit, you are all over this stuff. Good work. Now there's two seperate sources, one talking series, the other talking movie. Not sure which one would excite more at this point. But I am starting to get a bit excited. Where there's smoke there's usually fire.
Gambit Funko Pop figure #4 (#1 with cards, #2 glow in the dark, #3 with staff)
This story is picking up some traction. The more people pick up on this the closer we get to possibly getting some answers.]https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/gambit-is-reportedly-back-on-marvels-radar-is-channing-tatum-still-the-top-choice.html/[\url]
This story is picking up some traction. The more people pick up on this the closer we get to possibly getting some answers.
(https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/gambit-is-reportedly-back-on-marvels-radar-is-channing-tatum-still-the-top-choice.html/[\url)
I don't know why anyone thinks that is a show is on Disney+ the character won't crossover. That's the whole point. They want to drive people back and forth from the movies to the streaming platform applying pressure to fans so they feel that they have to watch "A" to understand "B". It's why Captain Marvel did so well, despite it being misleading. They'll be doing much of the same I believe with WandaVision and Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Moreso on the former.
I don't know why anyone thinks that is a show is on Disney+ the character won't crossover. That's the whole point. They want to drive people back and forth from the movies to the streaming platform applying pressure to fans so they feel that they have to watch "A" to understand "B". It's why Captain Marvel did so well, despite it being misleading. They'll be doing much of the same I believe with WandaVision and Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Moreso on the former.
Because you are not a Hollywood genius like Fiege. If you were, you could come up with something awesome like this. :pLOL I'm not here often so I don't know if this is an "in" joke or not. But Gambit fans have been talking about Gambit having this type of series for years and years. I like what the man does, but I feel like people give him way too much credit to the point of worshipping him. Dude just does what any halfway creative Hollywood player would do. Legit, I've known since I was an awkward teenager fangirling over Gambit that this would be a good idea. Now we'll see if it actually happens.
THANK YOU! KF is overrated as hell. He's competent but so many others could have done what he did, and better, if they had complete control of the helm. THAT was WB/DC's problem.
Blak Panther is overrated as hell. That movie wasn't nowhere as good as people wants it to be.
I am not the biggest MCU fan and dodn't like half or even more of it's movies but KF deserves his praise.None of that makes him a creative genius.
He fought for his vision and won. He fought to have that complete control.
I respect that dude.
Blak Panther is overrated as hell. That movie wasn't nowhere as good as people wants it to be.BP had excellent, layered storytelling with who is easily one of the (if not THE) most interesting and complex villains in all of the MCU. As an added bonus, it also managed to be a more feminist movie that Wonder Woman and completely busted the "Go woke and go broke" myth to pieces. Don't agree with you at all. But different strokes and all that.
None of that makes him a creative genius.
BP had excellent, layered storytelling with who is easily one of the (if not THE) most interesting and complex villains in all of the MCU. As an added bonus, it also managed to be a more feminist movie that Wonder Woman and completely busted the "Go woke and go broke" myth to pieces. Don't agree with you at all. But different strokes and all that.
I have to disagree. There had never been this much control over a franchise before Feige. He created a shared universe like never seen before. An achievement that all other studios are trying and failing to emulate. The MCU success goes to show how focused and visionary Feige is.
Go woko go broke isn’t a myth; it happens every other month. The audience go to the movies to see blockbusters to have fun, they’re not interested in agenda being pushed down their throats. And as much as I enjoy the MCU, their success won’t last forever and the more they go down the woko road, the quicker their hegemony will fade away. I'm dying to see the X-Men in the MCU and I also want them to be recognizable and not shadows of the characters I love.The fact that woke movies have failed does not somehow prove that they failed BECAUSE they were woke. Charlie's Angels is a great example of that. Despite what a lot of people would have loved to believe, CA failed because it wasn't marketed well, no one really wanted another CA movie and it really wasn't that great. It has nothing to do with the "girl power" theme at all because we have seen plenty of movies in the same vein succeed at the box office.
The fact that woke movies have failed does not somehow prove that they failed BECAUSE they were woke. Charlie's Angels is a great example of that.
Despite what a lot of people would have loved to believe, CA failed because it wasn't marketed well, no one really wanted another CA movie and it really wasn't that great. It has nothing to do with the "girl power" theme at all because we have seen plenty of movies in the same vein succeed at the box office.
BP busted that myth on a MASSIVE scale. That movie was *extremely* woke and did exceptionally well at the box office. Why? Because it was an excellent movie and did a great job of world-building to immerse you.
There are many other "woke" movies that have gotten both critical acclaim and commercial success, but BP is a massive one. Hence it busts the myth that a woke movie is not going to do well.
It isn't about the movie being "woke", it is about it actually being a good movie that resonates with audiences. Period.
A new Gambit figure by Iron Studios. Looks good.
https://news.toyark.com/2020/02/27/marvel-comics-gambit-statue-by-iron-studios-383587 (https://news.toyark.com/2020/02/27/marvel-comics-gambit-statue-by-iron-studios-383587)
Oh Lord! What hath I done?!
Put me in the KF is overrated, and many, if given control, could have done the same thing. Now, credit that he got it...but, creative genius he ain't (IMHO).
And Black Panther was MASSIVELY overrated. But it wasn't "Woke". Again just my humble opinion.
I think a lot of the disagreements in this thread over whether something is 'woke' or not have more to do with what their definition of woke is. I see Stan Lee as a advocate for Social Justice, not a modern 'Social Justice Warrior' and all the negative connotations that entails. Likewise the term 'woke' started out as a "term of African-American origin that refers to a perceived awareness of issues concerning social justice and racial justice." As being 'woke' became trendy, it became distorted and corrupted. We started to see 'woke' presentations in entertainment that gave a newer definition to 'woke' that includes pandering, preachy lecturing that often results in unbelievable dialogue, token and paper-thin characters that exists as little more than their diversity, characters being Mary Sued because of diversity and a lot of other negative things.
When a lot of people object to 'wokeness', that is what they are objecting to. You can have something that is very diverse and socially just and not be what many would consider 'woke'. You can have something that is barely diverse and not really socially just at all and have it be 'woke' as hell, in the modern and more current negative usage of the word.
My two cents.
Well said. I believe many of my ethical and political leanings came as a result of reading Marvel comics. It shaped me in many ways when growing up.
I think a lot of the disagreements in this thread over whether something is 'woke' or not have more to do with what their definition of woke is. I see Stan Lee as a advocate for Social Justice, not a modern 'Social Justice Warrior' and all the negative connotations that entails. Likewise the term 'woke' started out as a "term of African-American origin that refers to a perceived awareness of issues concerning social justice and racial justice." As being 'woke' became trendy, it became distorted and corrupted. We started to see 'woke' presentations in entertainment that gave a newer definition to 'woke' that includes pandering, preachy lecturing that often results in unbelievable dialogue, token and paper-thin characters that exists as little more than their diversity, characters being Mary Sued because of diversity and a lot of other negative things.
When a lot of people object to 'wokeness', that is what they are objecting to. You can have something that is very diverse and socially just and not be what many would consider 'woke'. You can have something that is barely diverse and not really socially just at all and have it be 'woke' as hell, in the modern and more current negative usage of the word.
My two cents.
Another issue of Excaliber out and its not liked very much at the other place.
Not sure why this title hasn't been cancelled yet. Is it sheeple (people and sheep) buying this book blindly and not reading it? No clue.
I'm glad I never supported to begin with.
Another issue of Excaliber out and its not liked very much at the other place.
Not sure why this title hasn't been cancelled yet. Is it sheeple (people and sheep) buying this book blindly and not reading it? No clue.
I'm glad I never supported to begin with.
...Too niche. Badly written. I would say that it depends on how many people want to read a Apocalypse comic.
It's getting worse? I haven't had the energy to read the last couple, so I'm in the darkNot quite ‘worse’, in this issue gambit was not actually useless. The scene where he is running from a war wolf was actually rogue and they were flushing out Cullen. Of course the scene was disjointed and should have been longer/more fleshed out. But there was some completely pointless scenes convos with Rictor jubilee and betsy that clearly needed to be there... Also, according to the people who read avengers academy, Cullen Bloodstone is absolutely nothing like this. So another character is ‘off.’
This is going to sound weird, but I kind of checked out on comic book Gambit sometime after Asmus's solo series got canceled. Whenever I want to read new stories about Gambit, I just read fan fiction.
Even though I can read Excalibur for free... I simply don't bother.I'm literally trying to talk myself into reading for free from that link you provided and simply to see this cuter than baby yoda warwolf baby, I can't seem to find the energy.
Those websites where you can read almost any comic for free has saved me a ton of time and money.
That's not... that doesn't resemble a wolf at all. That's a dinosaur... should have been called warsaurus >.>Guess the adults could look wolfishNah, the adults don’t look like wolves either, they look like silver dinosaur.
Oh man, a single page has me sighing aloud
Another issue of Excaliber out and its not liked very much at the other place.
Not sure why this title hasn't been cancelled yet. Is it sheeple (people and sheep) buying this book blindly and not reading it? No clue.
I'm glad I never supported to begin with.
Just my fanart. Always wanted to see Remy with Darth Maul`s double lightsaber.
I don't know about Gambit fanfic, I haven't read Xmen fanfic or Gambit specific in some time. I do read fanfic but in a totally different fandom.
Gambit is in general slashed with any male character the writer likes the most. There are a few romy fics too and I don't read those either.
What's missing is more action/adventure stuff. Maybe another guildmate would have some suggestions.
AO3 (archive of our own) has a tagging system, and filters so that you can be specific in what you want to read. For example, you can include Gambit then hit filter and only fics with him in it shows up.
Fanfiction.net, you'll have to hope the people writing gives enough info in their summaries.
I always got the impression Warren and Remy disliked on another.
I'm working on a 4 parts fanfic. It centers around Archangel and Gambit dealing with Apocalypse in the current Krakoa status quo. Not heavy on action and adventure as of now. More about characters making choices. In general it's about characters and stories I'm missing with the current Krakoa status quo.
I wouldn't mind if Remy and Warren became friends in the comics. They seem like a fun pair. I wouldn't be suprised if Remy has stolen something from one or two of Warrens houses.
I always got the impression Warren and Remy disliked on another.
Read the issue, it was fine, much better than that awful Warwolves 2-parter. The team bonded and To's art is quite good, and some nice character moments added.He's absolutely drawn effeminately. But then, that's a marvel mandate these days.
While Gambit was still a little grouchy in parts, he was tolerable. The test is next issue where he'll have to fight, where he's previous showing was woeful. While To draws nicely, he's doesn't draw action/fight sequences very well either I've noticed in the first arc.
Again, while To draws pretty figures and scenery, I actually don't like his Gambit much, I don't like the costume, too thin and prettyboyish...and he looks short in parts. Compared to Mann who made him pretty but also strong and formidable at the same time? If anyone gets what I mean? I have trouble taking To's Gambit seriously.
He's absolutely drawn effeminately. But then, that's a marvel mandate these days.The writer identifies with a different letter of the alphabet. I can't be the only one who sees this. If I am, well, apologies. She doesn't get the male/female or if you feel better - the female/male relationship.
But that's modern Marvel for you. Talent as a storyteller is not a concern...how you identify is. Marvel proudly hires extreme progressives based off their identities, not talents (or lack thereof).
I'm sure everyone's already seen, for example, the new New Warriors?
Yesterday, Marvel unveiled the first look at their upcoming New Warriors series, which will also introduce a handful of new heroes, including psychic twins Snowflake and Safespace. In addition, there’s the “meme-obsessed” Screentime, whose brain gets connected to the internet after an accident involving “experimental internet gas;” B-Negative, a young vampire who was exposed to Michael Morbius’ blood as a child; and Trailblazer, who possesses a “magic backpack” that also functions as a dimensional gateway.
So far, the response to these heroes has been…less than enthusiastic, particularly when it comes to Snowflake and Safespace. Obviously, those words carry some weight. Those words have become go-to pejoratives used by right-wingers to attack anyone they perceive as overly sensitive. It also doesn’t help that the creators chose to give the “Snowflake”name to a character who identifies as non-binary. Kibblesmith himself has acknowledged the words’ connotations and also insists that the characters wear those names “like badges of honor.” Unfortunately, his explanation isn’t going over well on social media.
It's madness, and it's being lambasted by EVERYONE. I mean Marvel's been pushing WOKE stuff for years but this was SO bad it was universally assumed to be parody or satire, and then, ROASTED when everyone realized it was real.
When I first saw the teaser stuff, I thought it was an elaborate joke that someone had cooked up, but no, it's real. For anyone who hasn't seen it...
https://www.superherohype.com/comics/479295-marvels-relaunched-new-warriors-lineup-sparks-fan-backlash (https://www.superherohype.com/comics/479295-marvels-relaunched-new-warriors-lineup-sparks-fan-backlash)
(https://cosmicbook.news/sites/default/files/styles/image_header/public/marvel-new-new-warriors.jpg?itok=J8L4m0EF)
You can't make this s*** up. :idiot2:
It reminds me of She-ra on Netflix. The main male character there (Bow)is drawn in the same androgynous way. Speculation if he is trans is widespread.
In general that show is well done but not for me. I'm glad it exists.
I will look at this the same way. For some people it might be extremly important and therefore I'm glad for thier sake. The problem with comics being how crowded it is. I have long given up on that. In the best of worlds this would just be a bonus that enrichens the stories. In reality it will certainly impact some other title. Like how Captain Marvel and Thor effectivly seems to block other energy manipulators from Avengers.
My gripe is the more 'woke' stuff gets the more it feels like parody instead of something real. I don't buy into it. It's not the diversity and representation that is the problem, it's the farcical quality of it all. Combine that with bad writing in general and I'm increasingly finding characters, teams, franchises... even entire fictional universes that seem bogus to me. I read around characters, around books. Eventually it becomes too much and I just check out entirely. I've been struggling with dropping Marvel off-and-on the past few years, and I'm a lifelong fan. There's always a title or two that seems to buck the tide that keeps me hanging on by a thread... But most days half the characters I use to know and love now feel more like strangers I have little to no interest in.
But that's modern Marvel for you. Talent as a storyteller is not a concern...how you identify is. Marvel proudly hires extreme progressives based off their identities, not talents (or lack thereof).
I'm sure everyone's already seen, for example, the new New Warriors?
Forgot Excalibur came out. Can someone let me know when Gambit get's killed off or leaves the book? Thanks in advance!
edit: fixed formatting and really small font. LOL - Neko
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Okay back to Gambit. What happened in the latest issue besides Gambit combing Rogue's hair?
I don't think the combing hair thing is completely awful, and if she asked him to comb her hair, as her hubby he would. The problem is the continued emasculation of Gambit.
https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/x-men-gambit-to-come-to-disney-plus-as-a-western-says-mcu-insider.html/ (https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/x-men-gambit-to-come-to-disney-plus-as-a-western-says-mcu-insider.html/)
Trying not to get my hopes to high but this is the third rumor we hear. Gambit coming to the MCU soon may be true. Having Gambit introduced in a solo series before moving to the movies would be amazing.
- Excalibur movies trilogy is planned with Black Knight (John Snow), Kitty, Nightcrawler, Psylocke and Cap Britain.
DC and Marvel are still working on projects and most likely everything will just be pushed back. So books that were to come out 4/15 will come out 5/15 etc.
Wow, dead around here. I hope everyone is well.
Gambit as the Torch. This wasn't a bad series, I liked it. :)
Have you read it? Did you like it?
I'm sure if Marvel survives all this when Disney Plus debuts the Gambit series writers will stumbling over themselves to write him all of a sudden.
It's a shame that the Gambit movie script wasn't made. The script was indeed very good. I see how it would have been an issue. Included at least one New Mutant, asked for the return of a problematic actress and was set firmly in the Fox X-Men universe.
I'm sure if Marvel survives all this when Disney Plus debuts the Gambit series writers will stumbling over themselves to write him all of a sudden.
It's a shame that the Gambit movie script wasn't made. The script was indeed very good. I see how it would have been an issue. Included at least one New Mutant, asked for the return of a problematic actress and was set firmly in the Fox X-Men universe.
Well... It's already happening. So, sorry?
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Don't say I never gave y'all anything. :smitten:
(Was a link to the 2015 Gambit movie script)
I'll keep the link open for a couple days. Download etc etc.
I though it was just fanart but Dike Ruen posted on 24.03 pic and team has the same costumes.
It seems Marvwl comissioned him.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ET4xrSlU4AMp7Zs?format=jpg&name=large)
I new Marvel game is available on Android and iOS called Marvel Superwars and Gambit is being introduced to this game. Here is the first look before the complete character designs is revealed tomorrow.
All this new Gambit stuff seems to confirm that MCU has plans for him.
Cool! Is this game good?
I have Gambit in Future fight. Cool mobile game.
Wasn't able to get Remy in Contast of champions so deleted it.
@Hairlesscat, compelet agree. I didn't like Guilds in script. They were like just like simple burglars from Layman's bad solo. They needed their own rules, ancient traditions, secret info library. Also their own money, clubs and other stuff like in John Wick movies.
It was 2015 second draft. Probably next drafts changed it for better.
Gambit was awesome in it. Loved scene with orange. So dangerous.
Also plan with envelopes. Really smart.
Third act with big thievery is very good written for me.
I am sure that D+ can give more in 6 hours then movie in 2.
But I am sure that we won't get some awesome stuff in D+ thay we could have in that movie.
Also feel bad for Tatum. But it seems he agreed with Disney that he moves away from Gambit project and will be making other projects for Disney.
I don't think it would have taken very much time to establish that the New Orleans Thieves Guild was an organization of elite thieves. A couple of lines about it towards the beginning followed by a montage of his thief training could have done the trick. They could even have extended the run time a little if it were that big of a concern.
The guild could have been shown in better light but the story was already to cramped. Focusing on the guild with have taken the focus away from Remy. Remy was shown to be very similar to the Claremount era Gambit dangerous, sexy n the journey of his character was good.
Hoped with some tweak to the script we could have seen a Gambit movie if Fox didn't cut the budget.
It's a free to play moba game Like league of legends and u can easily get Gambit when he comes out next week for free. He will also come with alternative costumes. I will post it here as soon as I get more information.
Here is the look for Gambit from Marvel Super Wars. He looks amazing btw. Will be posting his gameplay video tomorrow.
I don't think it would have taken very much time to establish that the New Orleans Thieves Guild was an organization of elite thieves. A couple of lines about it towards the beginning followed by a montage of his thief training could have done the trick. They could even have extended the run time a little if it were that big of a concern.
I mean, let's be honest: if Jean-Luc hadn't adopted Remy, Remy would probably still be picking pockets and running petty scams. He had talent, but he needed training. This script makes it seem like he was already going to be a master thief without Jean-Luc and the Guild.
Also, don't worry! I'm sure we'll get even more Gambit badassery in the MCU. ;D
I don't want Marvel writers (aka SJW identity politic pushing progressive twats) touching Gambit.
I want REAL writers to do so.
Like... like Chris Claremont? Dude, the X-men are the most inherently and overtly political superhero comics.That's what I said! It's so silly to complain about SJW and identity politics in X-men. They are literally one big metaphor for the Civil Rights Movement.
I'd be really surprised if Gambit was introduced as a good guy. Ant-Man had to give up his life of thievery (sort of) before he got hero status. Unless the MCU takes a radically different view of property crime post-Thanos, stealing is morally ambiguous at best.
Like... like Chris Claremont? Dude, the X-men are the most inherently and overtly political superhero comics.
Like... like Chris Claremont? Dude, the X-men are the most inherently and overtly political superhero comics.
That's what I said! It's so silly to complain about SJW and identity politics in X-men. They are literally one big metaphor for the Civil Rights Movement.I think perhaps some ideas are not being presented clearly enough for a differentiation between CC's days and today's day and age. Just a thought.
Neko, Disney + still only gives me the option of Wolverine and Storm as profile Avatars. I don't get it. >:(Without doing research, I have no idea why that avatar wouldn't show up. Very weird I can totally get the frustration. Try the search in app, can't hurt, right?
Like... like Chris Claremont? Dude, the X-men are the most inherently and overtly political superhero comics.
That's what I said! It's so silly to complain about SJW and identity politics in X-men. They are literally one big metaphor for the Civil Rights Movement.
People can’t seriously compare a character/plot-driven writer like Claremont to brats who yell at the people who consume comics to try to win arguments on twitter. Plot and character should come before political correctness. Or let’s just pretend that a character like Snowflake is as relevant and significant as a character like Storm.
However, some people's identities have been shoved down everyone else's throats as the default when it is not.
So, here's the thing. For me, this is not about artistic merits as that is a huge rabbit hole that I have no desire to travel through. There is an entire generation that started reading before Claremont who think his stuff is absolute crap. There are people who would kill you for thinking that Grant Morrison's fart noises aren't genius. And on and on and on. Someday (if not even now), there will be people who love the current style of storytelling and its thematic elements. That is their choice and I take no issue with anyone's take on these things.
What I find ridiculous is the idea of complaining about there being too much diversity in a comics franchise that is unabashedly based on the Civil Rights Movement.
Are there annoying people on the internet? Yes, there are. Of MANY different political viewpoints.Some more than others.
Is that ALL there currently is to people and groups who fight for social justice? Absolutely not. There is lobbying, there are protests, there are calls to action.
People's rights are still being threatened.
And terms like SJW are regularly flung at people in order to shame and discourage them from caring about the human rights of others.
I find the term offensive.
I also find that it is often used by those privileged enough to ignore minorities and their problems.
It is also exceptionally privileged to decry identity politics, since a person's race/sex/class/sexual orientation/etc. affects virtually everything about their world and the way they experience it.
We ALL "play identity politics".
However, some people's identities have been shoved down everyone else's throats as the default when it is not.
If you have a problem with writing and character, say that. I do too.
But blaming diversity and inclusion in a comic like X-men is just ridiculous given its history.
I read Claremont in his time. So, I can absolutely speak to that fact that his writing was progressive, for the time. But, it was natural, fluid, it came from a place of well-intended optimism. That is not what the vast majority of Marvel's "progressive" garbage is, today. I already spoke about it at length earlier in this thread, I believe (and specifically about Iceman). If you cannot differentiate, I'm afraid there's not much I can do about that. I could list examples, but, ultimately, subjective interpretation would be argued, and it would become circular and pointless.
P.S. Chris Claremont would ABSOLUTELY have been considered a progressive/"SJW" in his time.
Gambit's gameplay video has been released for Marvel Super War and he will be available to play later today.
https://youtu. be/DjmkGoemKME
Yeah his future fight skills set are good but he is like a glass canon where he can't take much hit. It also disappointed me that he didn't get any new skin since his debut. In Superwar he is a marksman type hero so his attacks reach peak once he levels up to 15. He is also getting an alternate costume but real money will be needed to get it. Gambit can be bought using in game coins without having to pay any money but you can also purchase him.
Yes u will need a VPN currently as the game hasn't released globally yet. I loved that they went with MMX as alternative costume as it is a very recent book and we will get more costumes in the future. My in game name is Saiyanbaba if u wanna add me as it friend.
That is a cool alternate costume, and I don’t know enough about video games to make any other comments. ;)
About movie/ TV speculation, since we are in speculation mode, if the rumors are true (big if there) and rogue is a bad guy in captain marvel 2, that’s it out for a couple more years and a (possible) gambit tv show would also be a few years away. But if they came out at similar times, rogue would have that one ‘bad guy’ appearance, but gambit would have a year or two’s worth of tv shows. She it’s possible he joins the X-men first and that would be the possible good guy/bad girl dynamic that was mentioned. Not that he’s going to be a straight arrow’ type character. Of course, this is all still glorious speculation...
Thanks. Cool! Will try to download it tomorrow and find you.
Something I've always found appealing about the X-Men was exactly the diverse cast of characters from different countries, cultures and backgrounds, and the strong female characters. That’s something I loved as a kid and still do. However, I do have a problem with how inclusion and diversity are handled nowadays, in comics and other mediums, by incompetent so-called writers, adults who act like spoiled brats and attack anyone who dare disagree with their hypocritical political view. The problem isn’t diversity (that’s the whole core of the X-Men), it’s HOW it’s done for the past years.
This is exactly what’s happing now. A vocal minority of supposed progressives imposing their agendas on everyone else. It seems every character created as of late has to be diverse somehow. That's not even realistic. It really isn't diversity when almost no one can relate.
How can they not be diverse? If you mean there's a lot of non-heterosexual characters
there's been a huge attitude shift between my generation (early Millennial) and the people born 1998/99 onwards in terms of sexual and gender identity (and labels in general).
I also teach young people (have for years), and I do see more acceptance in this generation, which is a very positive trait. But again, that hasn't been the point of this discussion. I think you can be whatever you want but you don’t have to right to be offensive to whom have a divergent point of view and expect only respect in return. You don’t have the right to impose your choices on others.
I've been teaching undergraduate students for the past 5 years and young people are much less likely to apply the identity labels I would have worn at the same age. The vast majority of them are accepting of how everyone else chooses to present themselves, and if or when people change. The two biggest Cons in the UK- Thought Bubble and MCMLondon (rip for now)- are stuffed every year with young people from that same demographic, getting excited to meet creators who write characters who are like them.
It's not only business sense to reflect those young people in the comics that Marvel puts out; it reflects the shifting demographics of the writers who are emerging as the hot talents of the industry, even if not all of those writers are not under 25.
Anyway, the diverse range of sexual/gender labels used by The Youth of Today used to really confuse me, but since spending the last five years teaching The Youth of Today they're actually a much cooler and more accepting group of people than my own cohort were. It's like Cure fans not understanding why people like Nirvana, or people my age not getting Ariana Grande. And the X-men are still very relevant to them.
Yes u will need a VPN currently as the game hasn't released globally yet. I loved that they went with MMX as alternative costume as it is a very recent book and we will get more costumes in the future. My in game name is Saiyanbaba if u wanna add me as it friend.
*sighs* This topic got old but ....It did, didn't it. I had a whole comment written out, still do but decided to say 'eff it'. Now, I've completely shortened my comments because 'eff it'. LOL
Are you folks able to screen cap what Gambit looks like or was that in an earlier post by Kenta.
Can't find you for some reason. Add me. Purplevit
Are you folks able to screen cap what Gambit looks like or was that in an earlier post by Kenta.
I would like to see the art if possible. :)
Can't find you for some reason. Add me. Purplevit
It might be due to the region. As each region is divided into different parts so that might be reason I am also not able to find u. Saw some of your art of Twitter and you are amazing. Are you a professional artist?
Neko for some reason I am not able to attach all 4 images as the size shows to be to big. Could u please edit it.
I did read couple of issues of Excalibur but couldn't continue. It was badly written n the only saving grace was the art. Most of the character felt out of character always whining or depressed. Gambit was a joke in this book. Did it get better later on?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/wegotthiscovered.com/movies/gambit-reportedly-rrated-deadpool-3/amp/ (https://www.google.com/amp/s/wegotthiscovered.com/movies/gambit-reportedly-rrated-deadpool-3/amp/)
WGTC are telling that Disney can make a Gambit R rated movie is Deadpool 3 will be a success.
I don't believe it. I think correct rumour is from a different source about D+ series for Gambit.
No. It is till bad. Maybe even worse.
I don't trust WGTC as they are mostly wrong with their information. I am open to seeing an r rated take on Gambit but I don't see Disney as a brand making a R-rated movie except for Deadpool.
Gambit just got a new uniform for Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3. The costume is inspired from Age of Apocalypse but the colour for the uniform changes looks closer to Shazam. Still it does look cool.
I love how everyone remembers it as hod bad ass it was for Gambit to steal the Batmobile, but make no mention of him K.O.ing Nightwing. Honestly, that's a very impressive feat. Far more impressive than stealing the Batmobile.
Vita Ayala (writer of Children of Atom) told that her three all-time favorite X-men are: Storm, Mystique, Gambit.
Everybody catch wolverine? Kubert’s doing the wolverine cover, right but not interiors?
Weird to have Candra appear, I thought she was dead. Killed by Storm because she took some stone from her.
Weird to have Candra appear, I thought she was dead. Killed by Storm because she took some stone from her.
Did he grab a missile and absorb the energy?
I'm a bit 'wtf is this' about the whole issue.
It seems that my Gambit MCU related question will be answered tomorrow by Mikey Sutton (The one who provides most MCU rumours). Fingers crossed for some good news.
That’s cool, purp. What’s this guy’s track record away, as far as rumors go?
That’s cool, purp. What’s this guy’s track record away, as far as rumors go?
What was your question? Is there a live scheduled or something?
He got a lot right in the past like that Spider-man was going to be in the MCU.
I asked if there any update on Gambit series and if there any plans where ow when Gambit will appear on big screen after D+ introduction.
Lords of the Long box making a video every week where they are answering questions from fans. Fans can ask them on Lords youtube chanel in comments or on Sutton facebook page. I asked the same question for the third time. Today heard that it will be answered tomorrrow:) It is for me tomorrow morning. In USA it is probably today late night.
So reply:
Gambit will join X-Men after D+ introduction. May appear sooner if director or writer will find a significant place for him.
That answer feels like there are just no new Gambit related scoops.
Everyone just check this awesome stuff!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NegUHlzn_qs&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NegUHlzn_qs&feature=youtu.be)
https://youtu.be/NegUHlzn_qs (https://youtu.be/NegUHlzn_qs)
I ask fellow guild members to talk about their opinions of it. What they like and maybe what they didn't like. This is like a little glimpse into what an mcu Gambit movie or show could eventually look something like. Considering it's production and care put into it, this video could wind up being very popular and actually make some waves and could go a long way to show how much potential there is for Gambit in the mcu. I mean think about it, this is now officially the best live action version of Gambit.
Don't know why that post has shrunken down so small. :(
I SO prefer Remy WITHOUT his cowl! :gambit:Lol, I hadn’t thought of that watching the video,but, true. That guy does ‘need’ longer hair though. ;)
Listen, I'm gonna bring it up again. The Gambit fan film has now reached 700k. In 10 hours it has gotten over 100,000 views. Through word of mouth alone it has gotten more and more traffic as the days have gone by. In a couple of days it will be at the 1 million mark. This is all around good news for us as Gambit fans. :gambit:
Koo
Very true. Hopefully, some big wig takes notice and realizes there's a fanbase there.Given some titles/character the MCU is adapting, a Gambit FILM is a no-brainer.
http://comicbook.com/movies/news/brave-new-worlds-alden-ehrenreich-auditioned-to-play-gambit/ (http://comicbook.com/movies/news/brave-new-worlds-alden-ehrenreich-auditioned-to-play-gambit/)
Interesting article about another actor who is a Gambit fan.
*Don't know why the link is so small.
Solo was OK movie. Actor tried his best to play Solo but he wasn`t good enough. Won`t like him as Gambit.
http://comicbook.com/movies/news/brave-new-worlds-alden-ehrenreich-auditioned-to-play-gambit/ (http://comicbook.com/movies/news/brave-new-worlds-alden-ehrenreich-auditioned-to-play-gambit/)depends on device used to post, I think. No clue, I just fix and roll on. LOL
http://comicbook.com/movies/news/brave-new-worlds-alden-ehrenreich-auditioned-to-play-gambit/ (http://comicbook.com/movies/news/brave-new-worlds-alden-ehrenreich-auditioned-to-play-gambit/)
Interesting article about another actor who is a Gambit fan.
*Don't know why the link is so small.
Solo was OK movie. Actor tried his best to play Solo but he wasn`t good enough. Won`t like him as Gambit.
He was actually really funny in Hail, Caesar!, but nobody's going to look good as a stand-in for a young Harrison Ford apart from IRL young Harrison Ford or River Phoenix.
http://comicbook.com/movies/news/brave-new-worlds-alden-ehrenreich-auditioned-to-play-gambit/ (http://comicbook.com/movies/news/brave-new-worlds-alden-ehrenreich-auditioned-to-play-gambit/)Interesting. But I'm glad he didn't get the role. Just like Channing Tatum, he is physically wrong for the part.
http://comicbook.com/movies/news/brave-new-worlds-alden-ehrenreich-auditioned-to-play-gambit/ (http://comicbook.com/movies/news/brave-new-worlds-alden-ehrenreich-auditioned-to-play-gambit/)
Interesting article about another actor who is a Gambit fan.
*Don't know why the link is so small.
Interesting. But I'm glad he didn't get the role. Just like Channing Tatum, he is physically wrong for the part.
I would say editors and Marvel chiefs even more then bad writers.
Cullen Bunn pitched Gambit solo and Asmus later again. Marvel just don't want it.
Nicieza's solo were cancelled because Quasada thought that there were too many X books. Back then Gambit outsold Hulk, Black Widow and Deadpool.
Even when they give him a solo book. They just don't care and let it fight for survival. Gambit solo always are left without promotions, crossovers or tie ins. All other solo books for characters have stuff planned to rise sales and support book.
They don't even give the dude alternative covers.
Variants would help but Marvel's model for incentive programs at retailers is flawed. And the variants general benefit a different book and not the one intended.
Definitely! Variants are the easiest way to raise sales.
So Gambit can be called a ladder now. Ladder Gambit can show how badass are other characters cause they will save poor Remy from falling into cave with catching every cliff on his way or from lame Warvolfes because he is too stupid and his charged cards can`t do any damage and now can`t even explode for some reason.
Sooo, he's basically become a [email protected]?
https://comicbook.com/movies/news/x-men-original-movie-gambit-beast-danger-room-nightcrawler/ (https://comicbook.com/movies/news/x-men-original-movie-gambit-beast-danger-room-nightcrawler/)
So now we know Gambit was supposed to be in the first X-Men movie. Which makes sense. I'm sure we can thank the scumbag Brian Singer for the lack of Gambit in the movies.
I honestly haven't cared much what they did to comic Gambit since his last solo ended. *shrugs* Gambit is going to be a big deal in the MCU (I strongly suspect) and that will force them to start writing good stories about him again. Whether they want to or not. But until then? Nah, count me out.
So now we know Gambit was supposed to be in the first X-Men movie. Which makes sense. I'm sure we can thank the scumbag Brian Singer for the lack of Gambit in the movies.
Sawyer from lost would be a great Gambit.
Didn't Singer say that he didn't include Gambit in the film because he would be too similar to Wolverine? Which is just bulls**t, anyone who's read the comic or even watched the cartoon (it's also said that Singer just watched the animated series and didn't read the comic) could perfectly see that they have completely different personalities. If true, it seems more like Singer didn't want Gambit taking the spotlight away from Wolverine.
Didn't Singer say that he didn't include Gambit in the film because he would be too similar to Wolverine? Which is just bulls**t, anyone who's read the comic or even watched the cartoon (it's also said that Singer just watched the animated series and didn't read the comic) could perfectly see that they have completely different personalities. If true, it seems more like Singer didn't want Gambit taking the spotlight away from Wolverine.
Other than being a popular bad ass, they're very different. But, you're right...I think Gambit is often sabotaged because he does syphon some of Wolverine's "cool". And lets face it, the first 3 X-Men movies were "Wolverine and supporting cast". Cyclops had, what, 20 minutes in X2? He was killed off early X3. Halley Berry in her prime (damn!) barely having anything to do. Creepy boy Singer just wanted to wank off to Jackman's wolverine.
Yeah, they were never very alike, but singer was clearly focused on wolverine. Who’s is ironic, consider, after the marvel movies blew up, singer was doing and interview and was asked (politely ;) ) why the X-men movies didn’t do as well as marvel’s. And singer said something like, of course marvel does better, they have iron man! It’s like really? You had wolverine, who was ten times more popular than iron and all the popular characters, like gambit, rogue, Storm, you completely squandered. *smdh*HE SAID WHAT?! That is by far the most ridiculous thing he has ever said! And he has said some pretty ridiculous things.
Yeah, they were never very alike, but singer was clearly focused on wolverine. Which is ironic, considering, after the marvel movies blew up, singer was doing and interview and was asked (politely ;) ) why the X-men movies didn’t do as well as marvel’s. And singer said something like, of course marvel does better, they have iron man! It’s like really? You had wolverine, who was ten times more popular than iron and all the popular characters, like gambit, rogue, Storm, you completely squandered. *smdh*
If I could find a tweet, Rosenberg responded to one of my tweets along the lines:"If not liking Gambit disqualifies me (he tweeted something about Gambit and I said I withdraw all my praise for his uncanny X-Men run), then I can give you a long list of other writers that feel the same"I don't remember what I said, but it was a joke. I think I struck a nerve and he responded with that. Pretty honest... Not sure if it was 100% professional or even wise to denigrate his company's product... But he said it. I'll try to track it down.
Coincidence or not, these unprofessional obnoxious idiots who hate everything post 80's are exactly the writers I find the the most overrated.
I don't remember what I said, but it was a joke. I think I struck a nerve and he responded with that. Pretty honest... Not sure if it was 100% professional or even wise to denigrate his company's product... But he said it. I'll try to track it down.
[size=78%][/size]Grant Morrison, [size=78%][/size][/size][size=78%][/color][/size]Ed Brubaker, Mark Millar, all penned major X-titles in the 2000's, and all openly admitted their hatred of the character (Gambit). So, small wonder he was regulated to [size=78%][/size]lesser titles and faded into obscurity.[/size][/size]
Have comic book writers ever felt the need to be 100% professional about their company's product? It's been a while since I've really delved into comic book news; I know you've got your hooks in much deeper than I do, but when I was keeping up, I remember it not being unheard of that writers thought nothing of expressing their like or dislike of certain characters and any fans of those characters would just have to clench their teeth an see how it played out in the comics.
I know it's been said many times on this forum; it's basically a fan-fic standard of writing.
Amaya bros show off their CGC Gambit collection.
https://youtu.be/jP3lx6jKpMI (https://youtu.be/jP3lx6jKpMI)
Yep, all of them. Overrated.
Social media gave fans a means to express their opinions directly to the writers I guess. It's not uncommon to see writers being unfairly rude to fans like they're not entitled to have their own opinion.
Is there a thread for us all to show off our Gambit collection? :P
Could be. We got enough interest?
Holy s*** dude, that's a Gambit shrine! :gambit:
This is what I always point out whenever someone tries to pull the "Nobody knows who Gambit is/wants a Gambit movie" card. No one - literally not one single person - was asking for an Iron Man movie before it was released. Gambit has way more fans than Iron Man did before his movies. And also has more going for him as a character in general. If Iron Man and Ant Man can have successful movies, why can't Gambit who is arguably a way more interesting character?
I must've missed this comment...
Before Iron Man came out he was the most hated character in Marvel Comics (Civil War era). I can name you 10 X-Men characters that had a larger fan base than Stark.
Not sure I have anything to share...
Bang, it is awesome collection!!! Really cool :gambit:
Not sure I have anything to share...
This is what I always point out whenever someone tries to pull the "Nobody knows who Gambit is/wants a Gambit movie" card. No one - literally not one single person - was asking for an Iron Man movie before it was released. Gambit has way more fans than Iron Man did before his movies. And also has more going for him as a character in general. If Iron Man and Ant Man can have successful movies, why can't Gambit who is arguably a way more interesting character?
Awesome collection!
Love all that gold #1s and glorious 350.
Original art is very beautiful!
Great collections. I have a nice little Gambit collection but I still haven't set up a display for it. Definitely something I eventually want to do though.
But yeah, whenever people say things like Gambit's not well known enough for his own movie or he couldn't hold his own movie or nobody is asking for a Gambit movie, it drives me nuts. All of those statements are false or irrelevant. As has been stated already, if Guardians and Ant Man can be hit movies than Gambit is a no-brainer. People who say Gambit couldn't hold his own movie just don't know anything about the character. Probably just saw a few episodes of the animated show. The "nobody is asking for" comment is possibly the dumbest. Guess what, nobody asked for Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Guardians, Indiana Jones, Back to the Future, Star Wars, The Godfather, Shawshank Redemption, and on and on and on. The dumbest argument made about any movie. It's not about what people ask for, it's about making a great film that brings in audiences.
When I hear "no one is asking for" or "everyone is demanding" or "everyone is talking about", I take it to mean some self important Buzzfeed or Screenrant writer and their echo chamber buddies on Twitter. Example: read an article claiming fans have been "demanding" Kate Bishop as Hawkeye for years. Uhm...no, they haven't been. Anyone. Anywhere. Ever.
What's creepy is how they all secretly agree t a collective narrative they all radically push. A week ago, there were a dozen articles about the Snyder cut, and anytime Green Lantern was mentioned there was a mandatory 3-4 paragraphs and links to other articles advocating for using Jon Stewart in favor of Hal Jordan. A collective, blatant effort to push a character (for sake of diversity) rather than for the narrative purpose (Jodan comes canonically before Stewart).
Absolutely. Or "fans have been asking for a Kitty Pryde movie". Huh? :idiot2:
But the "nobody is asking for this" argument that you constantly hear from comment sections drives me nuts.
(https://cdn3.movieweb.com/i/article/fYMbFJ7nwF7AHi26rYePvpE4mYAwbx/798:75/X-Men-Juggernaut-Brett-Ratner.jpg)
I found this picture and I remembered that the third person on the right was rumored to have been Gambit. I remember thinking that I wish that had been true, but now looking back at how they treated him later on, what difference would it have made if that really had been him???
Probably nothing that will lead to nothing. But Excalibur 11
Gambit got Candra`s gem that contains her power.
Everyone just check this awesome stuff!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NegUHlzn_qs&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NegUHlzn_qs&feature=youtu.be)
https://youtu.be/NegUHlzn_qs (https://youtu.be/NegUHlzn_qs)
If I could find a tweet, Rosenberg responded to one of my tweets along the lines:
"If not liking Gambit disqualifies me (he tweeted something about Gambit and I said I withdraw all my praise for his uncanny X-Men run), then I can give you a long list of other writers that feel the same"
I don't remember what I said, but it was a joke. I think I struck a nerve and he responded with that. Pretty honest... Not sure if it was 100% professional or even wise to denigrate his company's product... But he said it. I'll try to track it down.
Only now just seeing this. Pretty good. Also a bit saif that this is one of the best Gambit depictions in any media in a long time.
2.9m views thus far.
Found em.
I don't think we'll be starved for Gambit centric media for long. On this day and age I think Marvel will be pressed to focus on stories and characters that fans like, not the ones the creators want to make us like. I don't know hoe long the comics will be around, but I think characters like Gambit who have mass appeal will be eventually be getting more attention over "Werewolves", Landsharks, Gabby, Kitty Pryde, know-it-all teenagers. Just my take.
I don't think we'll be starved for Gambit centric media for long. On this day and age I think Marvel will be pressed to focus on stories and characters that fans like, not the ones the creators want to make us like. I don't know hoe long the comics will be around, but I think characters like Gambit who have mass appeal will be eventually be getting more attention over "Werewolves", Landsharks, Gabby, Kitty Pryde, know-it-all teenagers. Just my take.
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Only now just seeing this. Pretty good. Also a bit saif that this is one of the best Gambit depictions in any media in a long time.
Whoa, I was shocked when it hit a million, dang nearly three!
2.9m views thus far.
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We live in HiX-Men era of X comics where Cypher will end up as one of the main characters and will be important.
Almost noone cares about Cypher.
Hickman don't care about Gambit at best and hates him at worst. He won't be in a main stories or a central figure in books while Hickman is main there.
When the X-Men debuts in the MCU, the comics will be forced into changing. Despite a bunch of overrated writes who hate him, Gambit is sill a very popular characters. There are lots of people that don't read comics but remember and like Gambit because of the cartoon, and will love to see him in the MCU. I do believe if (when, I hope) Gambit gets his own Disney+ show and starts showing up in movies, things will start to change in the comics, especially because it's still years ahead before it happens.
When the X-Men debuts in the MCU, the comics will be forced into changing. Despite a bunch of overrated writes who hate him, Gambit is sill a very popular characters. There are lots of people that don't read comics but remember and like Gambit because of the cartoon, and will love to see him in the MCU. I do believe if (when, I hope) Gambit gets his own Disney+ show and starts showing up in movies, things will start to change in the comics, especially because it's still years ahead before it happens.
And then we have James Gunn who hates Gambit but would love to make X-Men movie with Doop, Fantomex, Storm and Wolverine.
And apparently we're all just gonna forget about the thousands and thousands of tweets he deleted about "tasty little boys" and whatever other disturbing sh* he said. Fantomex is basically them trying to combine Gambit and Deadpool and not doing a good job with either. Hate that character. Luckily he won't be doing an X-Men movie.
I honestly think there are a bunch of writers who don't really know how to write Gambit and aren't good at that type of character so because they're insecure they just say they "don't like" or even "hate" him so they don't have to be burdened with writing a character they can't handle. It's pretty pathetic.
https://www.cbr.com/marvel-chris-claremont-anniversary-special/ (https://www.cbr.com/marvel-chris-claremont-anniversary-special/)
Seems like Gambit will be featured. Not totally sure how I feel about this.
https://www.cbr.com/marvel-chris-claremont-anniversary-special/ (https://www.cbr.com/marvel-chris-claremont-anniversary-special/)
Seems like Gambit will be featured. Not totally sure how I feel about this.
Cool! Ireally hope it has old school badass best Claremont's Gambit!
I'm not sure either, Claremont is hit or miss but there are issues he's written with Gambit that I have enjoyed.
I don't like that cover art, Gambit doesn't look at that good, I hope the interior handled better. Gambit's frown is too long, imo.
I might buy this ... not sure yet. Might go the digital route. :)
Agreed. Claremont is hit or miss in modern times. He also seems to always want to change Gambit in some way. Listen Chris, all the fans that are still here 30 years after you've created this character, don't want him changed. We just want him written well. A smooth badass with impressive abilities.
Is that lil' Ro with Gambit in the artwork?
Has anyone else noticed Gambit is the only male in tbe image?I had not noticed that until it was pointed out, interesting.
Has anyone else noticed Gambit is the only male in tbe image?
Amazing, Purplevit!!
I hope they do an animated series with this line-up. I'm tired of just relying on ONE comic book to read about my favourite character. We need new avenues.
I really hope this is a tease for an X-Men animated show. It's very interesting that it's the same artwork and character design from the Disney + avatars. It makes you think maybe they are thinking about an animated show. I hope so. Don't like how Storm is shorter then Jean Grey though.That would be nice. It could be that Disney just wants some designs to use until the next movie or cartoon starts. I think it could be telling that they are using the TAS cast and updated costumes, nit the movie or evolution’s cast and costumes. Hopefully that means TAS ‘ratings’ on Disney plus have been higher than the others and maybe Disney will lean that direction with the new movie or cartoon
He's not in it (well, maybe just his hand is), but Marvel Zombies Resurrection 4 had Valerie using Gambit's hand, saying Forge got it "from a very powerful mutant. His name was Remy LeBeau."
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https://www.cbr.com/x-men-strongest-martial-artists-ranked/ (https://www.cbr.com/x-men-strongest-martial-artists-ranked/)
They finally have Gambit in the right spot.
Chris Claremont Anniversary Special #1 preview:
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This was posted on twitter.
No X news from Disney but a LOT of stuff got confirmed from Lords of the Long box and Sutton rumors. It is a good sign for Gambit D+ old scoops.
On another topic, someone on reddit made a gambit filter for Instagram. I don’t really know the details of how these things work (or the likelihood of viruses involved) so I’m just posting the link to the reddit page:
https://www.reddit.com/r/xmen/comments/kbs81y/instagram_now_have_a_xmens_gambit_inspired_filter/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/xmen/comments/kbs81y/instagram_now_have_a_xmens_gambit_inspired_filter/)
Yeah it definitely sucks that there is no new X-news for the MCU. But at the same time, this means that they must really be taking their time to think about how they will be introduced. I think they realize how high the stakes/expectations are here. The X-men are so huge that even people who don't read comic books knew who they were before their movies. The only other Marvel franchise which I would say has similar brand recognition is Spider-Man. I really can't wait to see what they have in store.
I agree that they are biding their time with the X-men because they know how well-liked they are. But I wouldn't be so quick to write off Captain Marvel and especially not Black Panther. Both movies were hugely successful both critically and commercially and have their own fans. I see no reason to assume CM2 won't do well. And while T'Challa was undoubtedly the star, BP was very much an ensemble movie with many strong characters that people loved. I see Shuri taking the helm because people really liked her, but who knows?
I think that's it. Disney/Marvel know the gravy train is coming to a halt. Sorry, but, Iron Man and Cap are gone, Thor won't be around much longer, they'll get a one-off Black Widow, Boseman's tragic/unexpected passing leaves Black Panther dead in the water, Sony could yank Spider-man at any time, Captain Marvel is NOT popular/marketable and lets face it....these titles coming out are equally as undesirable except to Marvel cinematic fanboys. Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings and Eternals do not move the needle the way Iron Man or Captain America do. And the sequels (AntMan 3, CM 2, Gurdians 3, etc.) will gain less on returns and will be less well received as they're not building to another huge event.
Also, we have to remember that Disney/Marvel Studios MADE Captain America and Iron Man what they were. These weren't even characters that the general public particularly cared about before the MCU. They can easily do it with other characters.
...the X-Men property is leaps and bounds above anything that we saw when the MCU first started. They don't need to make them into anything. They just need to bring them to life and not screw it up.Oh, don't worry. No one is saying the MCU needs to "make" the X-Men. But I think they are spending a lot of time thinking about how to introduce them, how to maximize the storylines, etc. And that makes me happy.
Feige made Starlord and the Guardians of the Galaxy an A-list franchise. I trust his overall judgement. His casting and long-term planning are excellent, although some of the directoral choices have been a little bland (see: Peyton Reed, Kenneth Brannagh, Boden and Fleck).
Thor and Hulk are also not going anywhere.
Soooo.... Apparently they changed Gambits powers. Something about manipulating "mutant energy" or magical energy... Interesting but hardly has anything to do with Gambits powers. Anyone else think this revelation won't survive outside of this run?
Is his charming ability and resistance to telepathy still a thing? Also his second manifestation of Death had him with totally different abilities. Something like turning others into death zombies or something?
is this the thing apocalypse 'sensed' within gambit? (the only thing i know about what's going on is what i've read here in summation, so, not a lot). i was hoping more for the magic-relationship g had with the excalibur title would've been whatever old kingdom nonsense sinister deposited in his brain about five million years ago. but i guess that might require actually knowing the character - so let's just invent something new, right? magic mutant powers it is.
no, it won't survive. this is going the way of the fart-powers. and the blind precog-powers. and the new sun powers. am i missing another random set of powers here?
Is his charming ability and resistance to telepathy still a thing? Also his second manifestation of Death had him with totally different abilities. Something like turning others into death zombies or something?