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Title: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: Nekobaghira on November 12, 2021, 11:45:18 AM
Marvel Entertainment has announced a new Xmen animated series for 2023 on Disney+
It's titled "Xmen'97"

CBR reporting the original voice over actors for the new series, which means Chris Potter thus Gambit will be in it.
https://www.cbr.com/x-men-animated-series-disney-plus-revival/ (https://www.cbr.com/x-men-animated-series-disney-plus-revival/)


https://www.marvel.com/articles/tv-shows/this-week-in-marvel-exclusive-interview-x-men-97-animated-series-hits-disney-plus/ (https://www.marvel.com/articles/tv-shows/this-week-in-marvel-exclusive-interview-x-men-97-animated-series-hits-disney-plus/)


What do you think?

Update; added another link from Marvel's site. Hopefully confirming the intended use of the original voice over actors. Chris Potter's name is in both articles. Bodes well for Gambit and his fans.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: Sparta on November 12, 2021, 12:38:36 PM
Finally some good news in regards to Gambit. He's in the main roster which means he'll be in most episodes (with hopefully a few spotlight eps along the way).
The comics were giving us nothing and will continue to disappoint. The animated series has a far larger audience and this can help propel him to the MCU.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: wantutosigh on November 12, 2021, 01:06:42 PM
If this is a continuation then I absolutely love it. The original voice actors coming back is icing on the cake. As long as it's Chris Potter and not Tony Daniels gor Gambit. And it would be hard to hear anyone voicing Rogue opposite Chris Potter other then Lenore Zahn. I really hope the original writers/creators are coming back for this. That's a big deal and they are important. Better not be new diversity writers who wanna use this show as a vehicle to lecture the audience about real world modern day social justice.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: NicoPony on November 12, 2021, 03:34:22 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/89x4osEodHEoo/giphy.gif)


yesssss.


Cast: That includes Cal Dodd, Lenore Zann, George Buza, Alison Sealy-Smith, Chris Potter, Catherine Disher, Adrian Hough, and Christopher Britton. However, while some of these voice actors will reprise their original roles, some will be taking on new characters in X-Men '97.
X-Men '97 will also add some new members to the voice cast. Those include Jennifer Hale, Anniwaa Buachie, Ray Chase, Matthew Waterson, JP Karliak, Holly Chou, Jeff Bennett, and AJ LoCascio.
We know some voice actors passed away, I think Cyke and Magneto? And Jubilee's actress said she wanted her role to go to an actor of Asian descent. Is that maybe Holly Chou?


I'm hoping...like a mashup of New Mutants/Gen X introduced with the older core cast as mentors/teachers.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: Miss Misery on November 12, 2021, 07:48:16 PM
Good to hear about Alyson's view on having an Asian actress do Jubilee.

As with the Claremont series I just found out about, I am cautiously optimistic about this. Glad to see Lenore and Chris back. It'll be interesting to see what stories they adapt this time.

I hope we get a better score and no third-person speech from our man.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: Nekobaghira on November 12, 2021, 10:16:39 PM
I hope we get a better score and no third-person speech from our man.
You and me both. I don't understand why folks don't get how horrible third person speech sounds. 

Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: wantutosigh on November 13, 2021, 12:48:46 AM
Good to hear about Alyson's view on having an Asian actress do Jubile.

Honestly, I find it a bit sad she feels obligated to step aside in this day and age in fear of being cancelled by the media and twitter. She was a prominent voice actor in cartoons in a lot of our childhoods and it would be great to hear her again as Jubilee.

I agree, they should really calm down with the third person speak. Do it a couple of times for fun but that's it.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: NicoPony on November 13, 2021, 09:27:51 AM
Alyson is still on the show, just voicing a different character.


I was hoping to see some X-Men merch for sale. I really want a tee with the old is new again characters on it.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: anya on November 13, 2021, 12:15:50 PM
There actually were some shirts, etc out with the TAS with redesigned uniforms (which started a lot of speculation about if a new cartoon was coming, lol)
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: DonPriceTag on November 15, 2021, 02:35:58 PM
X-Men originally tackled a lot of stories from around its years of airing and before - if they are taking up where they left off... we know how Gambit-heavy the mid to late 90s were for Gambit as a solo act (I think 3 solo/duo books?). Including his centric stories we can look forward to adaptations of; Operation Zero Tolerance, Magneto War, The Trial of Gambit, The Hunt for Xavier, Revolution, the Neo conflict, The Twelve... that's just random storylines from the late 90s. That era was very different from one the OG series was based on. Less centered around Cyclops' leadership, more fluid.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: NicoPony on November 16, 2021, 01:35:30 PM
There actually were some shirts, etc out with the TAS with redesigned uniforms (which started a lot of speculation about if a new cartoon was coming, lol)


Time to Christmas shop!



https://www.kohls.com/product/prd-4429803/girls-7-16-marvel-x-men-gambit-collage-panel-logo-graphic-tee.jsp?prdPV=275 (https://www.kohls.com/product/prd-4429803/girls-7-16-marvel-x-men-gambit-collage-panel-logo-graphic-tee.jsp?prdPV=275)


Kohl’s knows little girls want to wear Gambit.


Now where’s the adult sizes? How come I can find child-sized Gambit shirts, but only adult Pokémon socks? What a world…
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: wantutosigh on November 16, 2021, 02:51:58 PM
https://www.cbr.com/x-men-animated-series-best-romance-rogue-gambit/ (https://www.cbr.com/x-men-animated-series-best-romance-rogue-gambit/)

I have to agree with this sentiment.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: DonPriceTag on November 17, 2021, 11:31:30 AM
With the announcement of the show, the first knee-bend comes from my man Clay Mann  ;D .  Lamenting how much he misses the franchise. Last I checked he was under an exclusive DC contract - but a public tweet is more like a warning shot. His contract is probably coming up and he's throwing out feelers. He's become a star artist. He comes back over the line he could probably pick his project. Avengers was a nice gravy boat with the MCU - but those characters are being phased out on the big screen. The X-Men is the new ticket for the foreseeable future. I said it. Cant wait for those "creators" to all of a sudden love Gambit.


https://twitter.com/Clay_Mann_/status/1460814320217034758
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: NicoPony on November 17, 2021, 12:42:39 PM
There was a lot of Twitter chatter recently about our Guy, the majority of it being positive. I was happy to see Mr. Mann show up this morning in my feed.


It’s great to have the X-Men back on the small screen. You get much more intimate character driven stories, less OMG THE WORLD IS ENDING mad rush of random characters joining the fray like in movies. I don’t know that 97 will be the vehicle that delivers the kind of readership they’d gained back in the 90s. Comics aren’t that accessible or affordable. Some of them are not even readable. I know I’ve stared at a Bachalo drawn page before and just went: wut is going on here?! And Howard’s dialogue might as well be written in Greek. No idea what’s going on. The animated series does give a sort of Cliff’s Notes version to catch people up on what the X-Books are all about. A cleaner bare bones story of events is far more relatable than the ‘multi-plot-point need-a-spreadsheet and several diagrams to explain’ world Hickman has made. I hope the plot points 97 chooses to hit don’t involve anything Milligan/Austin came out with.


XTAS was campy, hokey at times, but it was also fun and optimistic. The movies just sucked the life out of X-Men and we ended up with Morrison that started 20 years worth of depressing toxicity. How much infighting and constant losing does anyone want to read? I hope the impact the cartoon has on the books is to bring back some of the joyfulness, the familial relationships, the playful banter I miss. Yeah, the XTAS Rogue and Gambit relationship was fun for all the reasons the article said. Just someone hide all the issues of Bizarre Love Triangle and Blood of Apocalypse from the Marvel Studios writers’ room and we’ll be fine.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: DonPriceTag on November 17, 2021, 12:51:27 PM
...Blood of Apocalypse...


 :'(
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: purplevit on November 17, 2021, 02:03:17 PM

With the announcement of the show, the first knee-bend comes from my man Clay Mann  ;D .  Lamenting how much he misses the franchise. Last I checked he was under an exclusive DC contract - but a public tweet is more like a warning shot. His contract is probably coming up and he's throwing out feelers. He's become a star artist. He comes back over the line he could probably pick his project. Avengers was a nice gravy boat with the MCU - but those characters are being phased out on the big screen. The X-Men is the new ticket for the foreseeable future. I said it. Cant wait for those "creators" to all of a sudden love Gambit.


https://twitter.com/Clay_Mann_/status/1460814320217034758 (https://twitter.com/Clay_Mann_/status/1460814320217034758)



Hickman told that X-Foice have planned stories for next 2 years.
Hopefully it means that 2023 would have X-Men relaunch inspired by X-Men 97 release.
Such big relaunches are planned in advance so I won`t be surprised if Tom King and Clay Mann would get it.


Some of their replies for old 2019 X-Men Monday.


AiPT!: OK, Tom, if you could do a 12-issue maxi-series about an X-Men character, who would it be?
King: Uh, does Jon Hickman leave any left? I don’t know, are the X-Men going to survive this whole thing?
AiPT!: Clay would draw it…
King: Who do you want to draw on the X-Men? You just want to draw Gambit’s butt again.
Mann: No, it’d be the original–the Blue Team, Gold Team.
King: The original X-Men? That’s 30 years after they launched
Mann: I’m Hickman and I redo the X-Men. Blue Team, Gold Team, 10 characters–done. Not this new Alpha Men with flowers…

https://aiptcomics.com/2019/08/12/giant-sized-x-men-monday-23-terrificon-2019/ (https://aiptcomics.com/2019/08/12/giant-sized-x-men-monday-23-terrificon-2019/)






Edit: Cleaned up some code - DPT
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: DonPriceTag on November 17, 2021, 02:07:54 PM
"Alpha men with flowers" lol. That's funny. But words from a man locked behind an exclusive contract. He won't talk that recklessly, right now.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: anya on November 17, 2021, 08:55:18 PM

Time to Christmas shop!



https://www.kohls.com/product/prd-4429803/girls-7-16-marvel-x-men-gambit-collage-panel-logo-graphic-tee.jsp?prdPV=275 (https://www.kohls.com/product/prd-4429803/girls-7-16-marvel-x-men-gambit-collage-panel-logo-graphic-tee.jsp?prdPV=275)


Kohl’s knows little girls want to wear Gambit.


Now where’s the adult sizes? How come I can find child-sized Gambit shirts, but only adult Pokémon socks? What a world…


Lol. Here’s one from kohl’s that’s in mens. Not the same design, but still the ‘re-designed’ uniform
https://m.kohls.com/product/prd-4434025/mens-marvel-x-men-gambit-x-logo-distressed-portrait-tee.jsp?skuid=75732599&CID=shopping15&utm_campaign=YM%20LICENSED/NOVELTY&utm_medium=CSE&utm_source=google&utm_product=75732599&utm_campaignid=15096102625&gbraid=0AAAAADytpHYOSYHS6jt_Vf8qMJDUN7hpy&gbraid=0AAAAADytpHYOSYHS6jt_Vf8qMJDUN7hpy&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoNPI5OSg9AIVVGpvBB1RFATvEAQYEiABEgLDBPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://m.kohls.com/product/prd-4434025/mens-marvel-x-men-gambit-x-logo-distressed-portrait-tee.jsp?skuid=75732599&CID=shopping15&utm_campaign=YM%20LICENSED/NOVELTY&utm_medium=CSE&utm_source=google&utm_product=75732599&utm_campaignid=15096102625&gbraid=0AAAAADytpHYOSYHS6jt_Vf8qMJDUN7hpy&gbraid=0AAAAADytpHYOSYHS6jt_Vf8qMJDUN7hpy&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoNPI5OSg9AIVVGpvBB1RFATvEAQYEiABEgLDBPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)


Oof, that’s a long link.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: Sparta on November 20, 2021, 11:06:11 AM
Jeez, has anyone read the Feb solits? Yeah, I think XTAS will be our go-to for news. Even if it is over a year away, we'll get interviews, character designs and teasers along the way in 2022. I know that Lenore Zann said she has the script that she'll be reading this weekend so stuff has already been written so it seems.

I noticed Chris Potter popping up in a LOT of comic-cons (with the rest of the voice cast) and doing many X-Men interviews in the last 2 years. I have a feeling Disney had the new series planned a little while ago with those teaser avatars (remember those?), and probably Covid delayed a few things. 
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: NicoPony on November 20, 2021, 12:48:43 PM
Jeez, has anyone read the Feb solits?


It's going to be a long, cold, lonely winter.


All I want for Christmas is for Excalibur to be cancelled and for a new book with Gambit to be announced. Who is chipping in on my gift?


Our family Disney+ avatar is Gambit. I feel like I'm the only one watching it, so that's fair. Did everyone change theirs?


What do you want to see for Disney+ XTAS Gambit?


No headsock? Third-person talk? End up working for Sinister at some point?
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: Sparta on November 21, 2021, 08:45:25 AM

What do you want to see for Disney+ XTAS Gambit?


No headsock? Third-person talk? End up working for Sinister at some point?


1. A better display of Gambit's thieving skills.

2. The Sinister connection.

3. Some references to Nicieza and Asmus' solo runs. Courier, Joelle etc...

4. From a ROMY perspective, a bit more progression other than just having Rogue rebuff him and then fretting over him whenever he's in danger. Probably an X-Men #24 adaptation could be a good starting point.

5. Gambit and Wolverine team-ups.

6. Jean-Luc Lebeau appearance, unfortunately they missed an opportunity with 'X-Ternally Yours'

7. If they do costume redesigns. I'd go purple and black, I think the Disney avatar has that.

8. No third-person talk, if they REALLY must do it. Minimize it.

9. The cats.

Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: NicoPony on November 21, 2021, 10:28:41 AM

1. A better display of Gambit's thieving skills.

2. The Sinister connection.

3. Some references to Nicieza and Asmus' solo runs. Courier, Joelle etc...

4. From a ROMY perspective, a bit more progression other than just having Rogue rebuff him and then fretting over him whenever he's in danger. Probably an X-Men #24 adaptation could be a good starting point.

5. Gambit and Wolverine team-ups.

6. Jean-Luc Lebeau appearance, unfortunately they missed an opportunity with 'X-Ternally Yours'

7. If they do costume redesigns. I'd go purple and black, I think the Disney avatar has that.

8. No third-person talk, if they REALLY must do it. Minimize it.

9. The cats.


I love all these ideas. Let's have Don weigh in on number 9.


One more: backstory on why Storm knows Gambit well.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: Sparta on November 21, 2021, 11:23:16 AM

I love all these ideas. Let's have Don weigh in on number 9.


One more: backstory on why Storm knows Gambit well.


Probably a reference to UXM#266-267.

There's Morlock Massacre as well...but I don't think Disney will go that dark.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: Miss Misery on November 22, 2021, 08:14:08 PM
I want
Jean-Luc: Original Recipe Dapper please, rather than Extra-Crispy Midlife Crisis Pirate.
Romy: please make them a couple...one that COMMUNICATES, ffs
Thieving: I realize it'll go against his statement at the end of X-Ternally Yours, but I don't care, I want him to be a thief. Or, at the very least, use his thieving skills more on missions.
NO THIRD-PERSON SPEECH.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: wantutosigh on January 18, 2022, 12:12:49 PM
https://youtu.be/cF9PnZsVKIs (https://youtu.be/cF9PnZsVKIs)

At 1:11:55 it seems that Lenore Zann confirms that there will be a romance between Rogue and Magneto and we're hoing to get a love triangle. Noooooo! >:(   Guys, if this show ruins Gambit I'm going to be devastated. Devastated. We all know this will possibly set up the writing for Gambit to be a cuck who mopes around about Rogue. I have been so disappointed with all forms of entertainment lately. Marvel, Star Wars, DC, other franchises, movies, shows, comic books and on and on. They can't do this to me. All I want is a good Gambit I can enjoy in a decent animated show. That's all I'm asking for here. I will be so bummed if they screw this up.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: purplevit on January 18, 2022, 01:18:51 PM
I don't think that she confirms it with her answer.


At this point I have a very low expactations for everything with Gambit that is not solo projects.
I am glad that Xtas will return but I don't have high hopes for it because I doubt that we will get a Gambit lead and  centered on him episode from it.

Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: wantutosigh on January 18, 2022, 01:36:44 PM
I mean, the interviewer asks her who is Rogue real love, Magneto or Gambit. Now, none of these voice actors know anything about X-men lore outside of the show. Instead, her answer is "we'll have to see what decision she makes in this show" or something like that. Read between the lines. If this wasn't in the show she would have just said Gambit because I'm sure she would know nothing about Rogue and Magneto. She also says, " we'll have to see in the show". Sounds pretty confirmed to me. If not, that was an incredibly bizarre answer.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: andresa on January 18, 2022, 02:29:20 PM
I mean, the interviewer asks her who is Rogue real love, Magneto or Gambit. Now, none of these voice actors know anything about X-men lore outside of the show. Instead, her answer is "we'll have to see what decision she makes in this show" or something like that. Read between the lines. If this wasn't in the show she would have just said Gambit because I'm sure she would know nothing about Rogue and Magneto. She also says, " we'll have to see in the show". Sounds pretty confirmed to me. If not, that was an incredibly bizarre answer.


The question is bizarre in itself and her answer makes me all kinds of scared. The show has no reasons whatsoever to go down that road, I'll be furious if it does.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: NicoPony on January 18, 2022, 09:19:13 PM
There’s nothing more progressive than having a twenty-something year old pair up with a 60+ year old patriarch. I would like to be able to watch this with my kid, but if that’s a storyline, hard pass.


Welcome to your future, young women! Gotta see it ta be it. Hashtag SeeHer!
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: wantutosigh on January 18, 2022, 11:32:03 PM
What? ???
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: NicoPony on January 19, 2022, 08:18:07 AM
#SeeHer is a hashtag campaign to have more positive images of women in media and advertising. So, women doctors and stuff, as opposed to rolling around on the hood of a car wearing a bikini.


I can’t imagine how they’d include the Magneto/Rogue romance in a Saturday morning-esque cartoon. Carey got clap back for it and that was pre- MeToo. He couldn’t imagine why so many women would be upset about it, after all Magneto is preternaturally virile! Us ladies must have all been on our periods at the time.


Shirt like that ain’t gonna fly any more than Gambit kissing a sleeping woman without consent or Wolverine sadboi stalking a married woman.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: Sparta on January 19, 2022, 10:09:40 AM
Lenore in her answer doesn't really confirm anything, a bit of a vague response to the question. Though I do expect the love triangles for Rogue and Gambit to continue, there was quite a few in XTAS, (Cody, Belladonna, Archangel etc.) There will be angst because the romance was still undefined for most of the series. A few more obstacles is expected, which I'm fine with.

XTAS Magneto in a triangle with Romy? I can't really see it. But certain other characters? Definitely.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: wantutosigh on January 19, 2022, 11:29:01 AM
NicoPony- I know you make a lot of tongue-in-cheek and sarcastic posts but I just didn't understand what you said in that first post. The difference here is Eric and Julia Lewald said the writers for this don't have the same "Saturday morning kids show" restrictions that they had in the 90's. That they can tackle more "adult themes". If that includes a weird romance with a villain of her grandfathers age I'm not going to be too happy.


Sparta- I know we're all in denial here but when asked about Gambit and Magneto, instead of answering, Lenore says something nice about both and then says, "you'll have to tune into the series to find out what Rogue will do." I mean it's a clear tease for the show no? Sounds to me like she doesn't want to answer because it might be a spoiler. We know Lenore Zann has already recorded her dialogue for the show and is aware of Rogue's storyline. I hope she was just being weird but it seems like a pretty clear response to me.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: NicoPony on January 19, 2022, 12:38:11 PM
I thought ‘adult themes’ would mean Wolverine would stab something other than robots.  :laugh:   If they do a cartoon version of AoA, then the Rogue/Magneto thing may be what we’re looking at. After which everyone will look around and be like: god, how f-ed up was that? And Gambit actually comes off looking awesomely heroic, like saving the universe with the power of his love for Rogue (or something along those lines).
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: wantutosigh on January 19, 2022, 12:47:24 PM
I thought ‘adult themes’ would mean Wolverine would stab something other than robots.  :laugh:   If they do a cartoon version of AoA, then the Rogue/Magneto thing may be what we’re looking at. After which everyone will look around and be like: god, how f-ed up was that? And Gambit actually comes off looking awesomely heroic, like saving the universe with the power of his love for Rogue (or something along those lines).


Yeah who knows what they mean by "adult themes" in this day and age. If they do something with AoA like you said then I'm ok with it as that could work out fine. Actually that could be a potentially really good alternate look at their relationship. Or if Sparta is right that it could be a one-off episode similarly like what they did with Rogue and Archangel in the original show that wouldn't be so bad. But it only takes one writer on staff who loves Magneto and this can all go terribly wrong.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: NicoPony on January 19, 2022, 01:14:23 PM

But it only takes one writer on staff who loves Magneto and this can all go terribly wrong.


A reasonable and fair expectation, given we were all traumatized by the more recent Rogue/Magneto incident. I mean, my initial reaction was to start talking nonsense. We should start a support group.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: wantutosigh on January 19, 2022, 01:34:25 PM
Well it becomes scary because the whole Rogue and Magneto thing not only makes Rogue unlikeable but it has the potential to really ruin Gambit's character. It makes my ptsd act up again. Maybe a support group is the way to go. XD
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: Icefanatic on January 19, 2022, 05:16:40 PM
Keep in mind that any Rogue/Magneto pairing could involve 'Joseph', or at least the concept. Remember, 'Joseph' was originally intended to BE Magneto, de-aged and with amnesia rather than a clone. That could allow the pairing minus a lot of the ick factor.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: Nekobaghira on January 19, 2022, 06:18:56 PM
I don't want Iceman to be a rebel. It felt wrong to me  ... I guess we'll see.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: wantutosigh on January 19, 2022, 06:51:41 PM
Keep in mind that any Rogue/Magneto pairing could involve 'Joseph', or at least the concept. Remember, 'Joseph' was originally intended to BE Magneto, de-aged and with amnesia rather than a clone. That could allow the pairing minus a lot of the ick factor.


That'd be a nightmare too. Honestly, they didn't do all that much with Gambit and Rogue's relationship in the original show actually. So it would be extremely strange to jump into a big Magneto/Joseph love triangle in season 1 of a relaunch. But I don't put bad writing past any project now-a-days. Some of the story and character choices in modern shows/movies etc have been insanely stupid.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: Sparta on January 19, 2022, 09:28:18 PM
Sparta- I know we're all in denial here but when asked about Gambit and Magneto, instead of answering, Lenore says something nice about both and then says, "you'll have to tune into the series to find out what Rogue will do." I mean it's a clear tease for the show no? Sounds to me like she doesn't want to answer because it might be a spoiler. We know Lenore Zann has already recorded her dialogue for the show and is aware of Rogue's storyline. I hope she was just being weird but it seems like a pretty clear response to me.


We'll find out more later I guess. For now, I'm just happy we have Gambit in an animated series voiced by Chris Potter, and if you're a Romy fan, there will be development because they're constantly standing next to each other in promo pics and Zann and Potter have been doing a lot of cons together in the last couple of years, they've still got a huge fanbase if you look at the YouTube vids dedicated to them (and the view- count). But yeah, there'll be obstacles, and if it includes Magneto then we'll see how it plays out, but I would be surprised considering Rogue and Magneto in XTAS barely acknowledged each other in 5 seasons and they already did an AoA storyline which Rogue wasn't even in. So I don't know, might just be a single episode like the Archangel one where they fought Apocalypse, or that one episode where she had a crush on Colossus. If it's an ongoing thing, Magneto would have to be part of the main cast and 95% of his storylines are politically driven rather than romantic.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: DonPriceTag on January 20, 2022, 08:16:58 AM


I love all these ideas. Let's have Don weigh in on number 9.




I missed this... NO. There's no reason for the cats. You can't just paste cats to Gambit. Those things are the result of deep-seated sexual tension between Gambit and his future mother-in-law. Don't you taint this unholy incident with those useless fleabags!


And no, there will be no Rogue/Magneto incidents. 1. it's still Disney 2. they couldn't justify that nonsense in the books outside of the single book series it occurred in, not counting AoA. It's not making the animated show.


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I thought ‘adult themes’ would mean Wolverine would stab something other than robots.  :laugh:    If they do a cartoon version of AoA, then the Rogue/Magneto thing may be what we’re looking at. After which everyone will look around and be like: god, how f-ed up was that? And Gambit actually comes off looking awesomely heroic, like saving the universe with the power of his love for Rogue (or something along those lines).


It'd be weird for them to go back to AoA. They already did that with "One Man's Worth". That multi-part episode was actually what inspired AoA in the comics. On second thought - because it inspired the story and it was such a smash hit, they might very well revisit it and I just soiled myself.  :(
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: NicoPony on January 20, 2022, 08:28:39 AM
Omg! It IS Disney!!!
If X-Men = Disney
And Gambit = Prince of thieves.
Then Gambit = Disney Prince! 


Disney princes always get the girl! (unless you’re Hans, then you don’t count, bc you’re evil)
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: purplevit on January 20, 2022, 09:53:05 AM
Omg! It IS Disney!!!
If X-Men = Disney
And Gambit = Prince of thieves.
Then Gambit = Disney Prince! 


Disney princes always get the girl! (unless you’re Hans, then you don’t count, bc you’re evil)


Or Disney Scoundrel Prince?


(https://yt3.ggpht.com/ytc/AKedOLSA8radjAZgkGYwXciw-zH3zNHcJDA4dt1ZhbGK=s900-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj)
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: purplevit on January 20, 2022, 09:54:22 AM

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Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: wantutosigh on January 20, 2022, 12:19:28 PM

We'll find out more later I guess. For now, I'm just happy we have Gambit in an animated series voiced by Chris Potter, and if you're a Romy fan, there will be development because they're constantly standing next to each other in promo pics and Zann and Potter have been doing a lot of cons together in the last couple of years, they've still got a huge fanbase if you look at the YouTube vids dedicated to them (and the view- count). But yeah, there'll be obstacles, and if it includes Magneto then we'll see how it plays out, but I would be surprised considering Rogue and Magneto in XTAS barely acknowledged each other in 5 seasons and they already did an AoA storyline which Rogue wasn't even in. So I don't know, might just be a single episode like the Archangel one where they fought Apocalypse, or that one episode where she had a crush on Colossus. If it's an ongoing thing, Magneto would have to be part of the main cast and 95% of his storylines are politically driven rather than romantic.


Well Sparta, the original series ends with the X-Men and Magneto forming a sort of alliance. They've already said that the new show will begin with the team being separated and having to all come back together. If they have Magneto as the one bringing them together and leading them then yes, I would expect him to be part of the main cast.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: Miss Misery on January 21, 2022, 02:34:12 AM
I listened to the interview and...I really don't see much to be worried about yet. First of all, I don't know why he threw that question in there, and second of all I just can't see them doing a love triangle with her, Gambit and Magneto, "adult themes" or no. Her answer to me suggested that she was covering her ass by dancing around the topic.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: Nekobaghira on January 21, 2022, 09:37:48 PM
The project is too far away for answers to anything. It's in conception mode and show runner mode with looking for artists and animation.  Too soon to know anything, imo.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: wantutosigh on January 21, 2022, 11:46:37 PM
The project is too far away for answers to anything. It's in conception mode and show runner mode with looking for artists and animation.  Too soon to know anything, imo.


Cal Dodd and Lenore Zann have recorded their dialogue for their characters. The writing is at least mostly done. So you are incorrect.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: Nekobaghira on January 22, 2022, 09:23:19 AM

Cal Dodd and Lenore Zann have recorded their dialogue for their characters. The writing is at least mostly done. So you are incorrect.
Perhaps. *shrug* I don't mind being wrong but I'm not going to give accolades to every person involved in the project that has nothing to say; to only stir up speculation and not say a damn thing of value. 'Please tell me how much to not bother with this show, thank you.' That is what it's saying. That is not how PR works. PR is to promote and gain interest in the project, to form an audience in advance not dissuade. I get the whole, 'we can't tell you' thing but ... again, PR is there for a reason. IMO.
There was nothing in that interview to gain anyone's attention. IMO.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: anya on January 27, 2022, 11:02:28 AM
It’s definitely not a plot point that would drive interest in the show, because as marvel found out the hard way, there only a handful of people on the internet that actually like roguneto. The only driving force behind it was middle aged male comic writer fantasy.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: wantutosigh on April 28, 2022, 02:28:36 PM
https://boundingintocomics.com/2022/04/28/x-men-97-head-writer-hints-disney-plus-series-will-reflect-modern-issues-the-world-is-a-very-different-place-than-when-the-original-was-first-made/ (https://boundingintocomics.com/2022/04/28/x-men-97-head-writer-hints-disney-plus-series-will-reflect-modern-issues-the-world-is-a-very-different-place-than-when-the-original-was-first-made/)

Well... This was exactly what I was worried about. My expectations have lowered significantly.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: Nekobaghira on April 29, 2022, 05:47:57 AM
*chuckles* I am 'earnestly' losing interest. LOL
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: NicoPony on April 29, 2022, 08:18:24 AM
Ew… that site is horrible. Sounds like a lot of biased ranting meant to fan the flames of culture wars. I would not take their opinion as an indication of how the show is going to play out.


Claremont wrote the x-men with earnestness and emotion too. It adds drama. It makes characters relatable. In XTAS, everyone was an exaggerated caricature of themselves. And yeah, teen girl me ATE IT UP. Charming hot dude declaring his love and devotion out loud for a woman he can’t touch? C’mon! That’s earnestness and emotion right there. So yeah, if they’re keeping that kinda stuff, I’m ‘all in.’
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: wantutosigh on April 29, 2022, 11:22:30 AM
It's not an opinion piece. It's a quote from the showrunner himself. And multiple sites have reported on his quote.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: NicoPony on April 29, 2022, 12:16:10 PM
Oh, I think I made the mistake of reading all the way to the bottom of the page where it says “Related” and “Related opinion.” All of which were terrible.
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: DonPriceTag on April 29, 2022, 01:07:15 PM
Yeah... Taylor injected a lot of "modern day" issues into X-Men Red and it stands as one of my most disliked series to date. It was like reading a comic book written by a Buzzfeed editor. I'm fine as long as Feige keeps his finger on the pulse. It's X-Men, but it's still the MCU. I don't think he'll let it go off of the rails too much. He very much likes to appeal to a broader audience over pandering to specific groups.


Has anyone seen this theory of how this might fit into the MCU?


https://youtu.be/gx_E4SHg-TI



Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: Miss Misery on May 02, 2022, 12:41:37 AM
I don't see an issue with De Mayo's comments.

If anyone's going to have issues with the new show, I guarantee it'll be the folks at Bounding Into Comics. 😆
Title: Re: Xmen'97 (new animated series)
Post by: Icefanatic on May 02, 2022, 01:03:21 PM
https://boundingintocomics.com/2022/04/28/x-men-97-head-writer-hints-disney-plus-series-will-reflect-modern-issues-the-world-is-a-very-different-place-than-when-the-original-was-first-made/ (https://boundingintocomics.com/2022/04/28/x-men-97-head-writer-hints-disney-plus-series-will-reflect-modern-issues-the-world-is-a-very-different-place-than-when-the-original-was-first-made/)

Well... This was exactly what I was worried about. My expectations have lowered significantly.

Same. Feels like a bate and switch. 'Watch it 'cause it's a continuation of what you loved, it's right there in the title, X-Men '97'... but yet it's retooled for the modern world. I'm thinking I'll wait for the entire first season to come out, check out what people are saying before I decide to watch it or not. The last thing I need is another contemporary reboot ruining my affection for something I loved.

Also, I can count on one hand the number of writers who can spew out that kind of stuff on Twitter and still produce anything I can enjoy reading or watching, and have fingers left over.

*chuckles* I am 'earnestly' losing interest. LOL
Yep. They tease you with what you want. Then they give you what they think you should have. I've been through that so many times in recent years I half expected it from the start but I still managed to get my hopes up that this would be different. I figured with the same people coming back to continue the original story there was a chance, but then you see the types of people working on it and... :(

Yeah... Taylor injected a lot of "modern day" issues into X-Men Red and it stands as one of my most disliked series to date. It was like reading a comic book written by a Buzzfeed editor. I'm fine as long as Feige keeps his finger on the pulse. It's X-Men, but it's still the MCU. I don't think he'll let it go off of the rails too much. He very much likes to appeal to a broader audience over pandering to specific groups.


Has anyone seen this theory of how this might fit into the MCU?


https://youtu.be/gx_E4SHg-TI (https://youtu.be/gx_E4SHg-TI)
The sad thing is Taylor can write well when he restrains himself. Most of the people producing stuff like that are pretty much limited to that being all they can do, they write the way they Tweet. Taylor can do better, he just doesn't.