We love you too, Neko. Youve been a staple of the online Gambit fan community for as long as I've been online. Appreciate you.
Props to the person who made the art. I would credit but can't find the name, if someone does, lets give the love it needs. :)
Love you all Gambit Guildies
Happy New Year!!!Did you draw that? It looks amazing :o
Love you All!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIBkoeQVcAAwoAn?format=jpg&name=medium)
Did you draw that? It looks amazing :o
March? Probably till April.
I... I'm just really hoping Chris Claremont doesn't jump the shark on this. Keep it grounded and don't try to swerve too hard. Art expectations are high for me.
If Gambit gets possessed or something and spends half the time being a demon I’m gonna be so pissed.
Gambit kinda but not really shows up in X-Men Legends #10.
…but then, I love Cobra Kai with a passion, so keep that in mind.
More third person talk from a writer that obviously has known the character via the cartoon.Yeah, it is disappointing.
And at the very start of Summer, one if the coolest mini-series I’ve done in quite a while — Gambit (& ‘Ro) with brilliant art by Sid Kotian!From ChrisClaremont's Instagram.
wonder what his next project is. he'd mentioned something in a previous post about wanting to do something about mutants who didn't want to leave their lives and families for Krakoa.
They'd never let him do that. Not after that Marauders Annual where Brimstone (a demonic character) was basically the voice of anyone that thinks Krakoa isn't the best-est-thing-ever. Don't get me wrong - I liked the concept of Krakoa and agree to narrative reasons for its creation, but I also believe it's #$#%#%% obvious that Hickman meant it to eventually end. He set up too many blatant cracks in its foundation from character behavior, doctrine, and international presence. He even built in a reset button. Most of this 3yr narrative was undone abruptly in about 10-issues between Trial of Magneto and Inferno. Thing is, bringing this up makes you a problem as a reader, so I seriously doubt they'll allow Claremont to sow similar views within the lore and make it a canon view of the situation.
Channing Tatum says “once Gambit went away, I was so traumatized. I shut off my Marvel machine. I haven’t been able to see any of the movies. I loved the character. It was too sad. It was like losing a friend because I was so ready to play him.”(Source: https://wp.me/pc8uak-1lADP6)
Gambit small preview from Claremont Instagram if someone missed it :gambit:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZU7qxBP4lg/?utm_medium=copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/p/CZU7qxBP4lg/?utm_medium=copy_link)I hope it isn't costarring Rogue.
Go to Mr. Claremont’s insta feed and look at the 4th item! You will be so happy!
And the lediableblanc fansite tumblr somehow got an enlarged version of it- https://lediableblancdotcom.tumblr.com/post/674749506855813120/posted-by-chris-claremont-earlier-today
(https://i.imgur.com/YolVxQC.jpg)
Full interviewThat is actually heartbreaking. I knew the Gambit film was a passion-project for Tatum, but had no idea his love for Gambit was that strong.
https://variety.com/2022/film/news/channing-tatum-magic-mike-dog-lost-city-1235168780/ (https://variety.com/2022/film/news/channing-tatum-magic-mike-dog-lost-city-1235168780/)
Another missed opportunity: Tatum and Carolin spent four years developing “Gambit,” a raunchy stand-alone superhero movie about the “X-Men” mutant, for 20th Century Fox. “The studio really didn’t want us to direct it,” Tatum says. “They wanted anybody but us, essentially, because we had never directed anything.”
Tatum was so in love with the script that Carolin had co-written, which resembled the tone of “Deadpool,” that he was open to letting go of directing. “They would call him ‘flamboyant’ in his description,” Tatum says, defending the title character from any pushback as if he were real. “I wouldn’t — he was just the coolest person. He could pull anything off. Most superheroes, their outfits are utilitarian. Batman’s got his belt. Gambit’s like, ‘No, this s***’s just fly, bro! This s*** walked down the Paris runway last year.’ He’s just wearing the stuff that’s so dope because he loves fashion.”
But after Disney merged with Fox, “Gambit” became a casualty of the corporate takeover in 2019.
“Once ‘Gambit’ went away, I was so traumatized,” Tatum says, adding that he swore off watching the Avengers. “I shut off my Marvel machine. I haven’t been able to see any of the movies. I loved that character. It was just too sad. It was like losing a friend because I was so ready to play him.”
And the lediableblanc fansite tumblr somehow got an enlarged version of it- https://lediableblancdotcom.tumblr.com/post/674749506855813120/posted-by-chris-claremont-earlier-todayFinally, something to really look forward to! It looks like a time machine back to when the X-books were good.
(https://i.imgur.com/YolVxQC.jpg)
That is actually heartbreaking. I knew the Gambit film was a passion-project for Tatum, but had no idea his love for Gambit was that strong.I thought the same thing. I really felt for him with the interview and can understand. I don't buy books for Gambit anymore because I seriously can not take his characterization by the last few writers.
Finally, something to really look forward to! It looks like a time machine back to when the X-books were good.
The preview doesn’t tell us anything new about Gambit and Lil Ro’s history (other than Storm rides a skateboard), so I’m hoping mention of Shadow King is just a recap to get us back to what that time was like. Because again…Shadow King = possessed Gambit and I DO NOT WANT.Three days and no one posted this?!
From the script CC had teased earlier in the year, it mentioned a riverboat gambling scene and explosions. Not SK’s usual MO.
How is Gambit walking around in a Midwest town in that outfit? ;D
Three days and no one posted this?!tbh - I don't know. No one has ever done that on the site. It would have to be something I look up at the back end of the site and then add. LOL
https://youtu.be/DjC6NUHhSZI (https://youtu.be/DjC6NUHhSZI)
It was a perfect setup.
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Also, there is no ability for YouTube insert/embed?
Three days and no one posted this?!
https://youtu.be/DjC6NUHhSZI (https://youtu.be/DjC6NUHhSZI)
It was a perfect setup.
...
Also, there is no ability for YouTube insert/embed?
Thanks for all of the info Purp! Greatly appreciated. :gambit:ALways glad, Boss ;)
Claremont drives me a little nuts sometimes with how much he has to mention how different his Gambit would've been. It's like, yeah we get it. Thing is Chris, the Gambit that was eventually realized after you left has tons of fans and through all the years still to this day remains one of the biggest fan favorites of the X-Men team. With basically no help from the movies. So keep that in mind please. Chances are that if he got his way Gambit might not be as beloved as he is. Thank you for creating him but understand he has tons of fans.
Purp, at 1:27:40 CC says "Chose to use elements of his past that were hitherto unsuspected"
I said this on CBR and I’ll repeat, I wonder if Claremont is getting to the point where he’s mixing up some of his past ideas. Because he Ed interviews in the 90’s about some of his original plans and kitty was never involved with the gambit ones. His original description of his gambit ideas sounded like gambit was going to be conflicted to some extant (though I suppose I could have been reading into it.)
The character definitely wouldn’t have been as popular, because I can’t imagine evil pedo gambit being a fan favorite (or making it into the cartoon.)
It was a Friday night and Ann [Nocenti, X-Men editor] took us out to dinner and didn’t tell us about a X-Factor until it was, like, 6:30-7:00 at night and the office switchboard was already closed. I wanted to call Shooter, but I couldn’t remember his direct line. Ann knew his number, but she wouldn’t tell me. She told me to just sit down, have another drink and relax. I mean, she played me beautifully. Since it was a Friday, I had the whole weekend to go berserk. I spent the weekend coming up with a whole new set of characters that they could use for X-Factor. The fact is, Ann did the smart thing. If I actually had gone in to see Shooter on Friday night, I would’ve quit. I was so pissed off. I couldn’t believe what they did to Cyclops. He was supposed to be a hero and they had him walking out on his wife and newborn child and not even thinking twice about it. No one was connecting the dots.”
-Chris Claremont, Comics Creators on X-Men
https://aiptcomics.com/2022/02/11/x-men-monday-questions-chris-claremont/ (https://aiptcomics.com/2022/02/11/x-men-monday-questions-chris-claremont/)
First lewks at Gambit #1 and time to ask CC some well-thought questions. C'mon GG, let's come up with some good ones!
https://aiptcomics.com/2022/02/11/x-men-monday-questions-chris-claremont/ (https://aiptcomics.com/2022/02/11/x-men-monday-questions-chris-claremont/)
First lewks at Gambit #1 and time to ask CC some well-thought questions. C'mon GG, let's come up with some good ones!
THE QUEST IS REVEALED in Tini Howard and Bob Quinn’s [/size]KNIGHTS OF X #2[/color][/size]! Betsy Braddock has assembled her Knights! Their mission: to save Otherworld from Merlyn and his powerful henchmen...by finding the holy grail of mutantkind. But Otherworld is vast, and innumerable armies stand in their way. When Merlyn targets the Crooked Market, a safe haven for mutantkind, the Knights must split up. Will Captain Britain find the grail? Will Gambit lead the others into a deadly trap? Death looms over the Knights — in more ways than one.[/color]
It is just a rumor but I think it is right. So check if you don`t afraid of Doc Strange 2 Spoilers.
I warned :)
It seems that Xavier in Multiverse of Madness in XTAS version.
Old leak showed Xavier in his floating yellow chair and other stuff. Other stuff got confirmed to be true with a second trailer.
Also MM2 trailer has teases of Savage Land and animated universe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nqmd-2Uo90 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nqmd-2Uo90)3:20 for animated stuff.
It seems that XTAS team would be canon in MCU.
X-Men 97 can start after Xavier death in MM.
Also Wolverine (not Jackman) is rumored for MM2 too.
It is just a rumor but I think it is right. So check if you don`t afraid of Doc Strange 2 Spoilers.Purplevit, you doing okay? :/
I warned :)
It seems that Xavier in Multiverse of Madness in XTAS version.
Old leak showed Xavier in his floating yellow chair and other stuff. Other stuff got confirmed to be true with a second trailer.
Also MM2 trailer has teases of Savage Land and animated universe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nqmd-2Uo90 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nqmd-2Uo90)3:20 for animated stuff.
It seems that XTAS team would be canon in MCU.
X-Men 97 can start after Xavier death in MM.
Also Wolverine (not Jackman) is rumored for MM2 too.
https://aiptcomics.com/2022/02/23/x-men-monday-145-chris-claremont-gambit/ (https://aiptcomics.com/2022/02/23/x-men-monday-145-chris-claremont-gambit/)
Dagnabit. But why do we keep asking CC about his original intentions for Gambit? I think Gambit fans must like a touch of masochism.
Hm...little afraid this is going to be the Adventures of Lil Ro with her sidekick, Gambit. But the Stormy temper-tantrum page is pretty darn cute.
In the very few times I've read Duggan's take on Gambit, he's actually been entertaining and fun. I did get a Han Solo vibe in his characterisation (maybe because of the space opera setting). The Gambit/Destiny b***hy mother-in-law interaction was too similar to Mystique, it would've been better to have tried something a little different. I know Duggen likes banter and quips, and that's fine but an alternative approach would've been better. The Rogue/Destiny reunion was a little cold too.
While he does tend to portray him as a "joke character" at times, there are far worse writers out there that have written him. I was actually surprised that he had more panel time than Rogue in a book where she is a main cast member. I actually liked the issue overall, and Gambit was the best part of it.
i took destiny's referring to gambit as an 'assassin' as a dig on his role in the mutant massacre. she's just tarring him with the same brush as the rest of the marauders.
duggan and howard's writing is very shallow, just an interpretation of the characters so they're more caricatures. i find their stories to be very boring. i just think: ugh, i don't even LIKE any of these characters anymore. to make up for lack of characterization, duggan imparts sitcom humor and howard teases innuendo about queer relationships. xtwitter eats that sh!t up.
also this orchis thing is boring too. all of these people are interchangeable. i actually thought dr stasis and feilong were the same guy until someone on cbr detailed why each orchis character is so very boring and stupid. who can tell all these evil megalomaniacal scientists (EMS) apart anymore? then that OTHER EMS shows up, the adversary? what's his name again? evolutionary, that's it. actually, who CARES i bored myself trying to figure it out.
To buy or not to buy, that is the question. I'm thinking not so much and if I do, it will be digital. Not spending for a 35-40 drive/gas included with not wanting to go to a LCS.
I know ComiXology has been complaining about but when I buy CC's mini, it will be from there.
LOL
To buy or not to buy, that is the question. I'm thinking not so much and if I do, it will be digital. Not spending for a 35-40 drive/gas included with not wanting to go to a LCS.Or you can subscribe to the print issues through Marvel.
I know ComiXology has been complaining about but when I buy CC's mini, it will be from there.
LOL
So this is completely random but I saw this on Reddit-the op said it is photo of a beer in Australia, lolhttps://www.purvisbeer.com.au/collections/coconspirators-brewing-company/products/co-conspirators-the-dealer-ipa-355ml-can
https://www.reddit.com/r/xmen/comments/tc35rf/found_this_guy_on_a_random_australian_beer/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/xmen/comments/tc35rf/found_this_guy_on_a_random_australian_beer/)
Wow lookin like some kinda infringement there, but it’s the wild Wild West over in Australia.Magneto style beer, lol
Too bad I hate IPAs. Bitter and tastes like soap, should be more of a Magneto style beer.
Someone on CBR brought up that Dauterman is only confirmed to be drawing the hellfire variant for Gambit #2, but that it could be anyone, because variant covers aren’t confined to logical things like who is in the book. Sigh.. they are correct, it could be a Emma cover.
This has basically nothing to do with anything but there was a mention of the cancelled Gambit movie on the podcast Newcomers and omg Nicole Byer auditioned for a part in that movie! Aw, it would have been so funny!
https://open.spotify.com/episode/05kq6pk5gTJ3QFWjLTOiWZ?si=8N30OLehRomf6BjomrU97g (https://open.spotify.com/episode/05kq6pk5gTJ3QFWjLTOiWZ?si=8N30OLehRomf6BjomrU97g)
The period piece was the aspect I liked the least. I was done with the prequels and wanted the movies to move back to the ‘modern day’.
Understandable. And as much as I like the period aspect, I will say putting Gambit in the '50s--'70s does feel...off.I think the period elements were handled pretty well in the script. For me, the only issue is with how Gambit would then be brought into the present Fox timeline. Or were they planning on doing that at all?
Understandable. And as much as I like the period aspect, I will say putting Gambit in the '50s--'70s does feel...off.
https://screenrant.com/popular-marvel-comics-superhero-couples-ranker/ (https://screenrant.com/popular-marvel-comics-superhero-couples-ranker/)
Not surprising at all. Are Gambit and Rogue really not together anymore? I don't pay any attention to that Krakoa trash but I thought I would've heard this.
I figured. I mean I do frequent a Gambit fan site regularly, I think someone would've mentioned it. ;)
Still shows you that Gambit and Rogue are consistently seen as the top couple in Marvel. Since they got married, they've barely done anything with them. It's pretty absurd. The writing and vision right now is soooo lacking.
Gambit is putting the 'gay' in Gala. Or the 'gall' in Gala. Guess it depends on your pronunciation.
Anyway - I can get behind this, the general fervor around the design, the blatant pandering to females and queer audiences, and the awesome fanworks generated. I feel a bit more positive suddenly.
Who Zac Efron Could Play in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (cbr.com) (https://www.cbr.com/zac-efron-mcu-character-possibilities/)
Can I just say that I don't want Zac Efron anywhere NEAR Gambit? Kthanks.
I didn't think it was possible, but this would be an even worse casting choice for the character than Channing Tatum.
Also Jon Hamm as Sinister and Gambit’s nemesis…? I’m super into Hamm because he played one of my favorite characters ever - Don Draper (I have a type, okay?). He’s also got great delivery, and can play a comedic role. I think his acting range would be perfect for whatever version of Sinister we get. And Hamm in a Gambit movie? I’d die of happiness. Can he do a British accent though? If Tim Curry was younger, I’d pick him for Sinister. He looked great in a cape and corset.
https://www.cbr.com/jon-hamm-open-mr-sinister-mcu-x-men/ (https://www.cbr.com/jon-hamm-open-mr-sinister-mcu-x-men/)
I miss Mad Men. I remember Hamm said he did one for "A Young Doctor's Notebook" where he played the older version of the same character also played by Daniel Radcliffe. I wanted to see it but I'm not sure it ever aired here in the States. If it did I missed it. :'(
Here's a link where Hamm talked about struggling with the accent. https://younghollywood.com/news/daniel-radcliffe-recorded-jon-hamm-s-lines-to-help-perfect-british-accent.html (https://younghollywood.com/news/daniel-radcliffe-recorded-jon-hamm-s-lines-to-help-perfect-british-accent.html)
https://mobile.twitter.com/DavidNakayama/status/1525734585887170560?cxt=HHwWgICp1bXhv6wqAAAA (https://mobile.twitter.com/DavidNakayama/status/1525734585887170560?cxt=HHwWgICp1bXhv6wqAAAA)
Can't see him playing Cyclops either. But possibly the other two. I would really love for the MCU to look at actors who aren't as well-known to play the more prominent X-Men characters - especially Gambit. Kind of like what Fox did with Hugh Jackman. He only became a household name AFTER he started playing Wolverine. I think that ensures that you choose people who are right for the role.
I can see him being a kick-ass Cyclops, Havok, or Cannonball.
Scott not a ‘professional’ thief, he was a computer programmer who stole from a corrupt company when he found out they were corrupt, but got caught. Then he tries stealing again when he got fired from Baskin-Robbins and got caught again. ;)I would say Scott was a professional in the sense that he had been using his know-how to steal for years undetected and even planned and executed a heist for money. He definitely isn't as good of a thief as Gambit though since he gets caught a lot.
So that’s already very different background, with gambit becomes a professional thief, because he was a abandoned, homeless kid with no other options. Which would make him something of a unique character in marvel and other movies, because that would be more of origin story for a tragic, sympathetic villain rather than a ‘hero’.Very true. Nicieza once said that Gambit is a good study in nature vs. nurture and I agree. He is fundamentally a good person. He's kind, he loves deeply and is even nurturing. But he was raised in the underworld to cheat, steal and lie, so he rarely got the chance to show that side of himself.
Especially if they keep the ‘he was born with eyes’ angle, then he a abandoned, homeless, disfigured kid. And in movie, facial disfigurement is almost always the hallmark of a bad guy, lolThat reminds me of when Blade attacked Gambit assuming he was a vampire because of his eyes. Fun times.
He needs to feel unworthy while being one of the X-Men's most reliable BECAUSE of that reason.
hairlesscat how have you not changed your avatar to sinister's cat yet?Sinister has a cat? Anyone have pics? TEACH ME YOUR WAYS! Honestly, I've kind of tuned out the comics since Gambit's last ongoing was canceled. Not a fan of most of these more modern X-writers. :(
your reminisces of FabNic have made me nostalgic.
totally agree with your guys' points. though, be prepared, if gambit is intro'd as a thief in the mcu, he's gonna get caught. they are probably not going to show him on his best day when all goes smoothly and he gets away scott free.
i'm trying to think back on the other mcu movies... tony is a playboy warmonger jerk who becomes a hero. cap starts off noble nerd and becomes a hero. thor is a self-absorbed turd who comes around and becomes a hero. strange, same. turd-to-hero tale. lang and peter are both screw-ups, but not bad, who kind of inadvertently become heroes. gambit needs a new angle from all that. the extremely reluctant hero, maybe. like: i really really want to be having sex and stealing things, but FINE i guess i'll go save the world. geez. someone pour me a drink.
Joe Quesada .... years too late. He screwed Gambit hard core. And he did not care about female fans, I know this due to a dismissive email sent to me.
He cancelled the first ongoing due to "too many books". While we've had some good books, KT and TH are awful (IMO). There is no fixing until somebody actually gives a crap about the character and more than a love interest. IMO
Good. He should have been gone a long time ago. All he cared about was Cyke.
https://www.ign.com/articles/joe-quesada-retires-marvel-comics-editor (https://www.ign.com/articles/joe-quesada-retires-marvel-comics-editor)
i'm confused why a professional thief who can afford a penthouse apartment in tribeca and lives in a state-sponsored paradise where everything is free wants to sell pop-tarts to elves for extra cash. is kellogg's sponsoring him to break into a new market or something? is he using black market candy bar imports as a front to win the hearts and minds of otherword citizens thru transfats? this book raises more questions than produces answers. like: who are these people? why are they here? what is going on? is this the real life? is this just fantasy?
Gambit figuring out how the cards work isn't too big of a stretch. He did tell Laura's fortune with regular cards in X-23, and his connections with the Thieves Guild will have him a source on how these things work. What we need is clarification on how his powers actually work. What happens when he decides he doesn't want to throw a card he already charged? Can he uncharge them? Where does that uncharged energy go? This is where that "mutant energy" might come in handy. We could get some actual mechanics behind how his "charging" actually works. Unfortunately Tini has way too big of a cast to focus on this, not to mention she doesn't explain things in the first place. Maybe we'll get some exposition in his upcoming series.
That's all well and good. The problem comes when this book eventually ends or he leaves the roster. What then? The character's base function is altered. Now the next person is going to come in and do one or two things - ignore like any of this nonsense happened, or continue to build on it. By the next rotation - this may not be close to the same character. Look what she's done to poor Rictor and Betsy. Without a clean wipe, the characters are forever altered. Thankfully Rictor is a C-lister and Betsy's most famous iteration as Psylocke is protected by Kwannon continuing on. Gambit's not so lucky. He doesn't have a clone out there and he's far from a 3rd tier character. He's a top 10 x-men character that will continue to be in the rotation despite how badly current-day writers try to bury him.
If Tini actually gives Gambit's power some definition, I'm ok with it. The whole "turns potential energy into kinetic energy" is kind of vague. Potential energy as we know it for our application is basically the energy applied by the Earth's gravity on an object relative to its position. (There is another definition involving elastic force but that has nothing to do with what he does.) So if he's fighting in Denver he should theoretically be much more powerful than if he's fighting in New Orleans. But what happens when he is in space? Is he converting energy based off the sun? If the energy conversion happens when he releases an object, then it should have no gravity applied on it and frankly would be impossible to aim. That leaves me with the conclusion the conversion doesn't happen until after the impact. All this has me asking: What exactly is his power?
I’ve always understood Gambit’s powers as tapping into of potential energy of an object and converting it to explosive kinetic energy. I mean it’s pretty ambiguous but that’s what I’ve thought it was for the last 30 years.
I can also convert the potential energy of any object into kinetic energy…by throwing it, but I’ve yet to make anything explode.
If we think too much about it... we will hurt ourselves. Let's just settle with "he makes things go boom".
Oh while we are on the topic of his true powers, if Gambit dies, what are the chances the quiet council decides to not resurrect him? Wouldn't he come back at full power and possibly inadvertently blow everything up? ;D
I wish Wanda's spell was "No More Omega Mutants."
The classification is stupid. It's like an endless argument between two thirteen year old boys over which superhero would win in a fight. Having amazing powers is fun and all, but not what makes me love a character.
I wish Wanda's spell was "No More Omega Mutants."
The classification is stupid. It's like an endless argument between two thirteen year old boys over which superhero would win in a fight. Having amazing powers is fun and all, but not what makes me love a character.
'Omega' is stupid because their powers are just whatever the plot calls for. Supposedly Captain Britain can fly, but in the last issue of KoX, she's hanging upside down by her legs from a ledge. b***h, can't you fly? Don't you have TK or something? Magneto can terraform a planet, but not push a metal space station into the sun. Why? because it gives him a headache. Jamie Braddock can birth a space station, but not stop Merlyn's army "because reality is too thin." What???
In Excalibur, Gambit can catch missiles and absorb them, I guess. Or like, make a bullet vanish? It's all just: whatever. If he could suddenly generate magic exploding kittens, it wouldn't surprise me.
But I guess if I'm going to be serious for one brief moment, I'd say the resurrections seem to make mutants stronger, see: Synch. So, if the plot called for it, yes, Remy could come back with enhanced abilities. I am guessing Scott came back with the visor and Karma came back with a metal leg because it was a personal choice. Gambit would likely make it his personal choice not to have New Sun powers.
That did indeed happen…The discussion thread in CBR was …interesting and eventually got locked, lol. It was like, ‘why tf did karma come back without her leg?’ ‘Because disabled people exist you ableist!’ Yeah, it was…fun…
...wait did Karma die and come back without her legs? That was an example, right? That didn't actually happen, right?
Pretty sure she was killed by Dani in the Crucible, then came back right before the Gala, and yes, she chose to be an amputee.
So I am assuming Scott chooses to come back brain damaged! :D
There was a very brief discussion between NorthStar and Kyle about resurrecting mutants without phycological trauma, too. I think it touched on our experiences making us who we are versus not having so many mentally ill mutants.
Wolverine and cyclops were preserving a trademark. Karma doesn’t have a trademark, let’s e honest. She didn’t even make it in to the terrible new mutants movie. It was a twitter level political statement (because,yes, the writer got in on calling people who didn’t like it ableist.) though, they didn’t have anything to say about Xavier strolling around, or about any of the other characters getting modifications during the resurrections, coming back younger or stronger etc. yes, i got slightly over worked at this, because I had crushed my foot in a car wreck and even though it healed pretty well considering, magically being healed completely would be nice and it does not makes me freaking ableist. Next those guys break an arm or leg, don’t get a cast, wanting to heal is ableist. *grumble, grumble* *rant over* *deep breathes…meditation music playing…*
So reading up on how the reviving works, if Gambit signed up for it Hope could dampen his powers so he wouldn't need surgery from Sinister. But all this ableism talk has me wondering will be come back with red and black eyes. Seems like a bad feature to have as a thief. ;D
I'm not familiar with Williams, but neither KT and ML write Gambit that well IMO. I feel like the last writer who really got Gambit was James Asmus.
...ah @&$&.
he is FREED from being under her pen! rejoice!
Oh no, I get what you're saying. I'm just saying that neither one wrote a particularly good treatment of Gambit. ML's Gambit was mature, but he was also boring. And Gambit is anything but.
i wasn't specifically saying they should write gambit, but that they have a good handle on family dynamics (spouses/partners, children, friendships).
i appreciate liu for giving us a more grown-up gambit.
i don't think KT wrote a bad gambit. i think she wrote a boring gambit. he was a foil for rogue's development. otherwise rogue would be talking to a wall. at least he was a sexy wall.
fabnic, asmus, then maybe cc are best at gambit.
:cheers:
he is FREED from being under her pen! rejoice!
If you look real close, you can see Gambit left a message:tell my cats I love them
Don't you bring Remydat into this. He's busy enjoying his kid. No need to sully that... My concern isn't Gambit's death... It's that when mutants die in Otherworld, when they are brought back - they are different. Sometimes drastically. Most often mentally and psychologically completely different... Have you seen Rockslide lately? Or Gorgon?
That's a joke... Right?
Don't you bring Remydat into this. He's busy enjoying his kid. No need to sully that... My concern isn't Gambit's death... It's that when mutants die in Otherworld, when they are brought back - they are different. Sometimes drastically. Most often mentally and psychologically completely different... Have you seen Rockslide lately? Or Gorgon?
I didn't know Remydat had a kid - Congrats to him and family.
No, I haven't seen Rockslide or Gorgon. I've been MIA for a long time despite keeping this place rolling.
At least its 'Otherworld', not sure what it means but ... I'm alright being clueless.
With his death, does it mean his marriage is over?
Don't forget the spoilers for a week, unless this isn't really new. LOL
Firstly, congrats to Remydat, that's wonderful news to hear.
About the spoiler post...
That's my concern too, it's not the death that worries me, (what I've read of the death scene tells me there's much more to play out)...it's what happens afterwards and who writes it. But I think they are trying to fix the Otherworld resurrections in the upcoming stories, and there are a few avenues for Gambit to be restored again, there are theories about the Siege Perilous, the Death persona etc.
I was not prepared for this issue, and now I'm paranoid for the brand new Gambit.
There are people, entire groups actually, that have existed in the in the Deaf and Blind communities(as well as other 'disabled' groups) for a long time that are completely opposed to things like the Cochlear Implant and other such devices and procedures. They view being Deaf or Blind as analogous to being Gay or Black etc. They have their own communities and cultures and they view anything that could 'treat' or 'cure' as an attack on their community and culture, even a threat to their very existence.
Totally understandable.
Is a deaf person getting a cochlear implant ableist? If a mother chooses to correct her fetus’ deformity in utero, is that ableist?
I’ve understood the general lack of wheelchair access, and other things able-bodied people take for granted to be ‘ableist.’ Discriminating against people on the autism spectrum or with different intellectual abilities is ableist. Correcting a physical impairment isnt being ableist. I think the author is really reaching here. She just wanted to have Karma with a metal leg bc it looked good with her pink cotton candy gown she wore at the last Gala and she’s covering it up with some nonsense virtue signaling. Forge must feel similarly, but having mechanical bits actually makes sense for his powers. Of course he’d want to make improvements and modifications just because he can. Like Don said, don’t make no sense for Karma.
...ah @&$&.:coolsmiley:
One thing is for certain, she can't have sex on his grave as that would be Scott/Emma brand infringement. GraveSex > KarmaLeg.
Also, how long do we figure before Rogue is screwing someone else? I would bet she waits until the funeral at least.
There are people, entire groups actually, that have existed in the in the Deaf and Blind communities(as well as other 'disabled' groups) for a long time that are completely opposed to things like the Cochlear Implant and other such devices and procedures. They view being Deaf or Blind as analogous to being Gay or Black etc. They have their own communities and cultures and they view anything that could 'treat' or 'cure' as an attack on their community and culture, even a threat to their very existence.
Several of my family members have cognitive/intellectual differences. I don’t know if they’d want to be ‘cured’ either.
I’m gonna stand by my original statement, any of those guys ever break leg, arm, whatever, don’t get a cast, show what a good, non-ableist person you are…
Anyway…as far as, KoX…if it were almost any other writer, I’d the Death stuff was definitely foreshadowing something and the death persona was going to come in play. But, but with Howard, I don’t know, she’s just not very good at this stuff… You’d think editorial would step in, but they allowed some terrible stories tp get through, and I guess they thought the writers enthusiasm would pull it off? I don’t know how these things work.
You're 100% correct..the editors are supposed to be the gatekeepers but I fear the culture in Marvel, especially in the X-office is to let the creators create for the most part. Probably some interoffice political and social stuff mixed in there as well. It seems as if people either don't know what a less than stellar idea looks like or are too scared to call it out. Not saying all runs are perfect and without blemish but X-Men in the past 10-8 years has been more miss than hit. They seemed to be on a very interesting track with Hickman but it stalled in 1st gear, left this on the side of the road and he bought a new car.
"New casting calls for an ‘Untitled Marvel Studios Show’ might hint at Gambit & his adoptive parents making their debut in the MCU."
https://twitter.com/XMenUpdate/status/1544405288350015488?s=20&t=FtBClH3mswt9_v005iE0CA (https://twitter.com/XMenUpdate/status/1544405288350015488?s=20&t=FtBClH3mswt9_v005iE0CA)
Also X-Men 12 tells that Stasis is original Essex.
So baby Gambit before he was turned into a beautiful mutant?
I gasped when I saw the reveal. BABY ADAM!!!
I'd assumed from Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix that Adam died of a congenital defect. But maybe he was a mutant and his mutation killed him?
Or maybe child was dying as human. Essex wanted him to be alive and turned into mutant. Mutant baby became very beautiful and not broken.
Original Essex tried experiment on himself first and created Diamond Sinister. Experiment succeeded so he made the same experiment on dead or dying son. But son was stollen by Guilds and raised to become Gambit. Or maybe clubs and diamond Sinisters are both results of the experinment.
Adam Essex is my head canon Gambit. Will see next week.
If Gambit will join new X-Men team at Gala then maybe Duggan really has some Gambit/Sinister plans. If not, then Remy is doomed for eternity with Howard.
Hey, don't lose hope, Nico! If anything, this casting call gives me hope for Gambit's future in the MCU. Sure it sounds like Julien Boudreaux and his parents, but that just means they are taking the time to develop Gambit's milieu before they even introduce him. If there is an Assassins' Guild, there has to be a Thieves' Guild. And they aren't going to give us the Thieves' Guild without Gambit. I know you were concerned that Gambit might not be a thief in the MCU. But I think this shows there is a good chance he will be. And judging by Julien's age, we may get to see Gambit's banishment from the Guild. Turn that frown upside-down!!!
Learning that the casting was for Echo and not a Gambit Disney+ series followed by the fact Howard is allowed to continue writing at Marvel was the one-two punch I didn't need when I was already down.
Hey, don't lose hope, Nico! If anything, this casting call gives me hope for Gambit's future in the MCU. Sure it sounds like Julien Boudreaux and his parents, but that just means they are taking the time to develop Gambit's milieu before they even introduce him. If there is an Assassins' Guild, there has to be a Thieves' Guild. And they aren't going to give us the Thieves' Guild without Gambit. I know you were concerned that Gambit might not be a thief in the MCU. But I think this shows there is a good chance he will be. And judging by Julien's age, we may get to see Gambit's banishment from the Guild. Turn that frown upside-down!!!
... Have I convinced you yet? LOL!
What the hell is Echo?Lol, she’s a daredevil character, who showed up in the Hawkeye Disney plus series. She worked for Kingpin, until she found out he had her father killed. She getting a Disney plus series now, because Fiege has been able to make D-list character movie stars and he’s getting drunk on his sense of power. He’s trying to make every no name character that passes his fancy famous, while ignoring proven commodities like, say the X-men. ;D
Lol, she’s a daredevil character, who showed up in the Hawkeye Disney plus series. She worked for Kingpin, until she found out he had her father killed. She getting a Disney plus series now, because Fiege has been able to make D-list character movie stars and he’s getting drunk on his sense of power. He’s trying to make every no name character that passes his fancy famous, while ignoring proven commodities like, say the X-men. ;D
So are we all secretly agreeing to pretend Gambit is not in the AXE preview? That outfit and what he's doing is so ridiculous for a minute I thought one of Sinister's Gambit clones from when he fought the Phoenix 5 somehow got outside.
Thanks. That all sounds pretty accurate to how things have been going. I haven't watched a lot of the more recent Marvel stuff. I just can't. So some of the Boudreaux's are going to be in this show possibly? Damn, if the show is awful, it could definitely wind up hurting a possible Gambit show or their inclusion in a Gambit-centric story in the future. This stuff depresses me. :-\
Gala leak confirms that Gambit is NOT on new Duggan's team.
Gambit was mentioned in passing in the Gala today. Jean told Scott if he doesn't get reelected he can take Gambit's spot in the kitchen. That's probably why Gambit was around in X-Men. He wasn't tagging along with Rogue, he was the team's cook. ;DHe also ran a mini casino in the basement, lol
Gambit was mentioned in passing in the Gala today. Jean told Scott if he doesn't get reelected he can take Gambit's spot in the kitchen. That's probably why Gambit was around in X-Men. He wasn't tagging along with Rogue, he was the team's cook. ;D
Yeah... I didn't get that. We know Gambit does cook and he takes pride in that - but I think this was just another dig. They really cant stand that he has a fanbase and they just try their best to denigrate the character at any chance they get. It wasn't funny. I confused me. Glad I just skimmed this thing.
To be fair Gambit would find everything that everybody else cooks to be bland, except for maybe Rogue who probably never learned how to cook. ;D
when it co-stars Storm…well, why even have gambit on the title at this point.
Yeah that's what I was thinking. Marvel probably wanted a Gambit series and asked CC and he probably worked it out so it can be in the past so he can work Storm in there. Seeming like Gambit will be the sidekick in his own title. I wonder if "Ro" will be a better thief. Or perhaps she can save him a bunch of times. CC definitely made it seem like the story set up was more for "Ro" as he didn't even mention Gambit.
Well I read Knights of X 4.
They lost Gambit lol
Also lots of things happening off panel again.
someone pointed out on another forum that maybe the lack of talk about gambit is bc CC doesn't want to spoil too much about the main character's story - same reason he was so happy to blather on about his original storyline for gambit back in the AIPT interview. it has nothing to do with what's going on in the mini, so he can talk ad nauseam about it.
the last panel on the page looks like remy is saying: how lucky it is i have this coat.
does the coloration on storm's eyes on the first panel make it look like she has tears welling up or is that just a strange choice on the colorist's part?
only one week away now!
if they lost his body i have to imagine it'll turn up as something/someone else entirely. roma better've picked it up and revived him. SHE CAN TOTALLY DO THAT as she's done it for NINE other mutants before.
someone pointed out on another forum that maybe the lack of talk about gambit is bc CC doesn't want to spoil too much about the main character's story - same reason he was so happy to blather on about his original storyline for gambit back in the AIPT interview. it has nothing to do with what's going on in the mini, so he can talk ad nauseam about it.
Rachel probably didn't call him to come to the meeting point like she did everybody else because he shut her ass down when she wanted to scrap the mission to go look for her crush. He's probably alive right now completely lost somewhere
We are supposed to fill in the gaps right? That's my take.
Maybe he’s drowning in the Swamp of Sadness because he misses his cats so much. Gaw, it’s good he’s dead and missed the Sad Swamp bc I don’t want to see Howard’s take on what troubled thoughts lie in the dark pits of Gambit’s soul. It would be the derpiest derp that ever derped.
I think the only guarantee is that whatever happens to Gambit won’t be of any interest lest it detract from Betsy’s amazing saga. Good smokescreen—I mean, KISS though!
Gambit's dark struggle would be having to cook for the team while all out of seasoning and aromatics. The only thing in the pantry would be boxes of instant Kraft macaroni and cheese.
Gambit's dark struggle would be having to cook for the team while all out of seasoning and aromatics. The only thing in the pantry would be boxes of instant Kraft macaroni and cheese.
So is anyone excited for the sneak peak we will get at comic con for X-Men97? Maybe a look at new animated Gambit? Perhaps a quick soundbite of Chris Potter? Anybody?
Just happy Gambit's not in that A.X.E. nonsense. I can avoid that money grab altogether now.
What if...Gambit's biological parents were a mutant and an external?
You know if I thought the writers these days paid attention to any previous character interactions I would completely accept why Betsy and Rachel aren't concerned with Gambit's death. Betsy because he was considering killing her at one point and Rachel from that one incident when Gambit wanted her out of his way so he hyperfocused on that memory of the Blob naked. ;D
Edit: if you guys were hoping that the new Xtreme X-Men team would save him, nope it's set in the past.
CC always had a thing for that trio and I'm okay with it. :D
Don't think Betsy every found out about that. And Gambit wasn't considering killing her so much as he was considering letting her die from her injuries at the hands of Sabretooth. In the end though, he ended up calling Beast and Xavier when she started to flatline so as far as anyone would be aware, he helped save her.
Best we could probably hope for as Claremont won't have to deal with any of the baggage from the crap Gambit storylines since X-treme. Bishop, Gambit and Sage back together is a plus.
Don't think Betsy every found out about that. And Gambit wasn't considering killing her so much as he was considering letting her die from her injuries at the hands of Sabretooth. In the end though, he ended up calling Beast and Xavier when she started to flatline so as far as anyone would be aware, he helped save her.
Best we could probably hope for as Claremont won't have to deal with any of the baggage from the crap Gambit storylines since X-treme. Bishop, Gambit and Sage back together is a plus.
No kidding, and let him go where-ever to the 'cleanse'. LMAO
I don’t know what’s going on with the event. I thought the response was positive…? Are the x-men being made bad guys again? I just saw they were fighting giant monsters (again). Like, where is Godzilla when you need him, this is more his shtick.
I went to my LCS to get a 'floppy' (paper copy) of Gambit #1. They didn't have it because it sold out in two hours on day of release. I would have had to been there at opening time to get one. The guy suggested I call and see if there is a copy that isn't pristine or wait second printing. (meaning bent on the spine and all that stuff.)
I see that as win as my shop is a 'medium' shop in sales.
I like the idea of Gambit screwing up when trying to save Storm. He should be new to this hero business so he won't know how to properly secure her, much like how Spiderman killed Gwen Stacy.
they made this just for Neko I think.agreed, how did they find out! LOL
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they made this just for Neko I think.
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So two different Gambits today. Claremont's take was much better. Howard's wasn't that bad, seeing how Gambit was clearly not in his right mind what with dying and freaking out about resurrecting wrong (it looked like Gambit even while dead was struggling to hold on to his identity by remembering his love for Rogue). Also loved Deathbit with yet another set of powers. The tradition continues!
I really dislike the male superhero underpants on the outside. No One Wants To See That. LOL
Hey now it could be worse. Whoever is writing X-force could get Gambit. Have you seen what they done to Sage? We would be begging for Howard again.*chortle* ahhhh, NO to Howard ... Forever. LOL
Hey now it could be worse. Whoever is writing X-force could get Gambit. Have you seen what they done to Sage? We would be begging for Howard again.
I sadly read KoX #5. I always think it’s not going to be as bad as everyone says it is. No. It’s worse. Betsy editorializes the entire plot, tells Rachel how to use her own powers, calls Gambit a b@st@rd and that she’s going to “get him home to his wife where he belongs.” But it’s coming from a bad@ss woman so that’s not condescending AND sexist at all. Interesting how she opens with Misogynist Merlyn who “hates all the women”, you know, for reasons. Lucky we have Betsy to show all the men who’s the BOSS. TH has written Betsy as a self-absorbed, self-satisfied, take no criticism, always proven right, invincible, know-it-all. And now she has a girlfriend!
Rockslide and Shiro’s appearances were completely random and seemingly irrelevant to the plot. With any other writer, I’d say it was foreshadowing. Maybe they were shoe-horned in there to set up another writer to take over Excalibur and bring these two on board.
Cleanse the pallet by re-reading Gambit 2.
Aaaaaaannnd this is when I found out that my LCBS didn't give me my issue of Gambit #2 last time I visited...
Gambit being a "bastard" isn't sexist, because the term is gender neutral.
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I wasn't referring to the term 'bastard.' If the author had written the hero of the story telling Rogue or Jean or Bei: "Go home to your husband" XTwitter would've burnt to the ground. >:D
Santos and Shiro's appearances were seemingly random to me. They weren't literally there, they were both in Gambit's head. Does he spend a lot of time thinking about either one of these people? I don't recall any recent interactions that would have them loom so large in his psyche. Maybe they go to his poker games.The Santos thing was just how everybody feels about dying in Otherworld. Everybody knows he came back wrong, that Santos appearing was Gambit's fear of coming back wrong. Gambit specifically knows this because there was a whole thing after Sword of X where they were worried about Betsy coming back wrong if she was dead. Shiro? That was Howard mistake. Remember when Shiro "burned away" Apocalypse's influence on him (Before they broke into the X-Mansion to try to snatch Polaris so she can join them as Horsemen but not working for Apocalypse). It was a wrong callback to a bad era of Gambit writing. She thought Shiro stopped him from being Death, when it just removed the Apocalypse leanings he had.
It'd be great if he grappled with this Death persona. Hope the next author does something with it. Fingers crossed for Sins of Sinister. But that's not until after CHRISTMAS!! Seven Swans a'Swimming for Sinister. [/font]
Sounds like someone got their Gambit question answered right off the bat!
https://aiptcomics.com/2022/09/12/x-men-monday-171-x-m-a-jordan-d-white/ (https://aiptcomics.com/2022/09/12/x-men-monday-171-x-m-a-jordan-d-white/)
Noice! Congrats ‘Vit. ;)
Sounds like someone got their Gambit question answered right off the bat!
https://aiptcomics.com/2022/09/12/x-men-monday-171-x-m-a-jordan-d-white/ (https://aiptcomics.com/2022/09/12/x-men-monday-171-x-m-a-jordan-d-white/)
Noice! Congrats ‘Vit. ;)
The Santos thing was just how everybody feels about dying in Otherworld. Everybody knows he came back wrong, that Santos appearing was Gambit's fear of coming back wrong. Gambit specifically knows this because there was a whole thing after Sword of X where they were worried about Betsy coming back wrong if she was dead. Shiro? That was Howard mistake. Remember when Shiro "burned away" Apocalypse's influence on him (Before they broke into the X-Mansion to try to snatch Polaris so she can join them as Horsemen but not working for Apocalypse). It was a wrong callback to a bad era of Gambit writing. She thought Shiro stopped him from being Death, when it just removed the Apocalypse leanings he had.
Lol I tried to post that cover but I have the hardest time figuring out how to post images on this site so I just gave up.Assuming browser and device functionality...
After years of bad writing, I was ready that Gambit would need to be saved or help from Marissa or Ro to defeat Warhawk. No, Claremont delivered.
But have no fear! Claremont is here! Thank you CC!!!If anyone knows the Cajun best, its CC. He helped create him. Gambit needs to not be in the hands of people who don't get him. Or editors who don't care.
In the Wham! Jitterbug themed follow-up to yesterday's DP announcement, who is pictured in the final photo standing with Reynolds? I don't know actors/celebrities very well.
If anyone knows the Cajun best, its CC. He helped create him. Gambit needs to not be the hands of people who don't get him. Or editors who don't care.
*happy dance*
edit: and CC isn't catering to any particular character, or so it seems, he's on his game.
I think a Deadpool movie is a poor first introduction of Gambit into the MCU. I honestly don't like anyone in a silly Deadpool movie. I think bringing Hugh back for it is a dumb idea and I think this multiverse crap is really muddying the waters.
Pretty much goes without saying that it’ll be Rogue-centric but I hope this means the end of Gambit as village idiot. Why would you have a smart powerful woman paired with a total moron? I am hopeful because she is a Parks and Rec fan, Leslie and Ben are my absolute favorite fictional couple. Sexy Smart Funny Romance, please!
One female writer wrote G poorly. But TBF, she wrote ALL the characters poorly.I'm not debating you. We all have a different view, I literally stopped buying comic books because of KT's interpretation. TH just made things worse.
Honestly, the absolute relief I feel now that I know Gambit is free from Otherworld is palpable.
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G did die in Otherworld, went thru the Siege Perilous, and everything hand-waved away with the explanation of "It's Magic!" and all is well. Not an AU but easily ignorable.
I'd be shocked if this "person" didn't just mostly focus on Rogue and actually did a good job with Remy's character. Shocked. You all know the way these things go now-a-days. And I like Rogue but if both of their names are in the title I want them both to have focus in the story. But we shall see.Agreed with all of this, especially the stuff I put in bold.
And I'm sorry but "Gambit & Rogue rolls off the tongue way better then "Rogue & Gambit.
Can't imagine why anyone would be offended Neko. Seems like a perfectly legitimate conversation we're all having. With some slightly differing viewpoints which is no big deal.Thanks. :)
Not gonna judge it just bc the author is female and has an education.
A character I am unfamiliar with, Manifold, is on the cover. Anyone wanna give me the low down on what this dude is all about? Has he ever interacted with G&R before?
Apologies to all if I've offended anyone enough to leave.
However, its things like this that makes me wonder.
Carlos Gomez is a very good artist.
This mini is a half of year away.
Will wait for some interviews with writer to see her view. After TH interviews only about Apoc and Betsy we knew that Excalibur will be lame even before #1 arrived.
I think that this mini and main plot was teased in Duggan`s X-Men 9,10,12.
Destiny wants Rogue to join her and Mystique on Krakoa and leave X-Men (Rogue leaves team after #12) and Gambit.
Destiny tells that Remy is not worthy and that Rogue must leave him. Or something like that. Also Destiny told that soon Rogue will change and will see Krakoa and Gambit the way Destiny sees.
Rogue leaves X-Men to joim Destiny because only Rogue can save mutants from entering some portal and never return.
Gambit #5 of the mini will be out on Nov 16th. Or so, comixology says.