Does anyone know if you can get a subscription to Chris Claremont's Xtreme X-Men like you could with the Gambit series?paper/floppy - might be hard to get all of the issues. You can get the collected via Amazon (floppy) and if you aren't adverse to digital, you can get it all via Amazon's Comixology.
https://screenrant.com/xmen-rogue-gambit-best-superhero-couple-romance/ (https://screenrant.com/xmen-rogue-gambit-best-superhero-couple-romance/)
Some might not like this but I think the idea is right. Just the execution doesn't always line up with the idea.
I'd like to know that too, it was stated and no back story. Crazy.
LOL when did Mystique and Destiny become "one of the greatest romances of all time"?
There’s a rumor going on that Channing Tatum might be in Deadpool 3. Honestly, I don’t know, this ship has sailed a long time ago.
It's funny, I was just thinking how with all this "multiverse" crap they are leading up to with secret wars, and the rumors of all the old characters, like the FOX-Men and Spider-Men coming back for the big finale, I thought maybe they can throw Channing Tatum as Gambit in there. Just so he can finally play the character if only for a cameo. And give Gambit fans something to have fun with.
But putting Gambit in Deadpool 3 sounds like a bad idea. Why? So Deadpool can just make fun of him and Wolverine at the same time? Sorry but if Gambit comes off looking like a clown in that movie it can completely ruin his chances to be in a proper solo or team movie later. It would be the characters first introduction and anticipation for Gambit can be completely squandered given his portrayal in a silly Deadpool movie. He's not Colossus where you can just make a joke out of him and everyone's fine with it.
Look everyone! Married folk hijinks with Gambit in Magneto colors!no kidding, acid in the eyes. WTF. I know it'd be a problem if I did that to my hubby.
Pretty sure if I did this to my wife in public it'd be a problem...
I think it comes down to imagination. I don't think these writers understand what marriage is. It's not long-term roommates.
Guys relax. Orange team plays baseball vs purple/red team. Gambit is a part of purple/red team.
Gambit has small role but a good written one in X-Treme #2 that gives a hope for a bigger role for him in this mini. I was glad to see him as Wild Card again.
He is front and center on the cover of issue 5 so hopefully he will do something cool. Claremont is still awesome.
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I hope everyone is fine and I wish all you a great 2023!
Stay safe and be happy!
@ Don, yeah, I'll see if I can move them or find them. I found what I did, I didn't take all of Nov 2022. It's here now. I missed December and it took a few to figure out the merge. LOL.
Vague... very vague. I'm sure Rogue will be blameless and Gambit will be off doing the pettiest crap in the world.
Keeping this going. I really enjoyed Gambit's appearances in Captain Marvel 43-45 (and I presume 46 as well but I haven't read it yet). Rogue has been captured by the Brood, and they're doing a rescue. Gambit is there to rescue Rogue, yes, but it's much more about Gambit than it is about Rogue. Lots of callbacks to Mr. and Mrs. X. There is hardly any Rogue in it at all.
Favorite Moments:
Gambit is trussed up with everyone else, who is unconscious and trapped in a power-borrowed Psylocke delusion with everyone else. He figures out the 'Rogue' in it is not real, and quietly tells Psylocke in the illusion (which is smart...yay for not making a big scene). She stabs him with her psychic knife, which breaks him free of the delusion. He has an organic power inhibitor burrowing into his leg, as well as being chained up. But, he has a knife and can cut himself free. He realizes if he cuts the power inhibitor or the ties binding him, he'd notify the Brood he'd broken free, so he cuts his own flesh out of his leg in order to 'cut off' the power inhibitor. This is 100% prime era gambit from way back when, and it was so good to see him being intelligent like this.
Another moment that was really nice: in the delusion, they are all in a galactic party. Lorna and Psylocke and some of the others are watching Gambit leave them to go meet Rogue, who is waiting for him. Lorna says, "Must be nice..." and the others start to tease her for lusting over Gambit, but Psylocke finishes Lorna's actual thought which was '...to be so loved.' She wasn't lusting over Gambit...she was feeling jealous of Rogue. I don't know why but it felt very romantic and made me feel fuzzy inside. Captain Marvel (2019) #45 | Comic Issues | Marvel (https://www.marvel.com/comics/issue/102509/captain_marvel_2019_45)
Anyway, it's been a great arc.
I am also reading X-treme X-men right now, which is fine for Gambit, but not as good. It was interesting that they added there that Gambit has a group of street kids working for him now, keeping the peace and helping keeping other kids on the streets safe. /Not/ stealing. X-Treme X-Men (2022) #2 | Comic Issues | Marvel (https://www.marvel.com/comics/issue/100065/x-treme_x-men_2022_2)
Also looking forward to Rogue and Gambit March 1. We'll see. [size=78%]Rogue & Gambit (2023) #1 | Comic Issues | Marvel (https://www.marvel.com/comics/issue/103023/rogue_gambit_2023_1)[/size]
All a little out of date until we get more, but if I'm missing any Gambit titles right now, let me know? Thank you!
I'm beginning to think Claremont has a very specific idea about Gambit's fighting style.
Generally I'd assume the writer leaves most of the action specifics to the artist, but Claremont seems to be dictating much more descriptive details for his artist to follow. I'm referring to the move where Gambit headlocks his opponent with his staff from behind and flips them over his back, faceplanting them into the ground.
X-Treme X-Men#42 from 2004 drawn by Igor Kordy:
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Gambit#4 from last year drawn by Sid Kotian
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And now this issue by Larroca:
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3 different artists over a 20 year time span, drawing the exact same move. Never seen any other artist have Gambit doing this maneuver unless Claremont was writing.
Cool review!
Yes. Cap Marvel is a good X-Men team book now.
I think that Gambit may appear in Duggan's X-Men 20-21 that is also Brood arc.
But will see. Duggan can't be trusted.
Is this new X-treme X-Men series supposed to be set in modern continuity or is it a story from the time the original series took place?
Everything about this series seems like it's from back in the day. The uniforms, Rogue being powerless and tattooed etc.
New article out today: https://aiptcomics.com/2023/02/20/x-men-monday-stephanie-phillips-gambit/ (https://aiptcomics.com/2023/02/20/x-men-monday-stephanie-phillips-gambit/)
Rogue being the core of every answer comes as no surprise like no one would've guessed she is the protagonist with all the synopsis revolving around her. That's how imbalanced this is.
Phillips doesn't sound that much different from Thompson, who is a huge Rogue fan that also happens to like Gambit, especially with Rogue (at least Thompson can write a decent Gambit when Rogue is not the focus).
Also, those covers are awful with a few exceptions. Sucks that I always feel afraid instead of excited.
Bought Rogue and Gambit 1 and regret a lot. R&G 1 is a terrible book about Robot Rogue and pathetic loser Gambit. It felt like reading a Tini Howard book again and I don't need such things in my life.I hardly recommend not to buy it. This book is just a frustration.
Read it on readallcomics.com. Was finished in less than 5 mins. Don't care for this writer's take on Gambit and Rogue. I'm not paying money for this. Why is the writer creating this kind of drama between them? Why is Gambit getting so drunk that he pukes all over Rogue? This is dumb. They should have gotten Kelly Thompson to write this. She and Claremont are the only ones who seem to know Gambit and Rogue as the characters they are.
Someone has to say it.
WTF is up with women writers of Gambit. Any clue?
I've read women writers for years with novels and none of them wrote men horribly. I don't understand. I love women writers except when it comes to Gambit. When I say that about women writers, I have entire kindle library that is full completely women written material. I got a few male writers but they don't dominate my library.
I don't get it. No offense to anyone.
Isn't this a modern issue in general in the comics? Seems to come from a feminist agenda where men have to be weak, inept, and dumb in order to prop up the female characters. Which in turn makes the females seem like insufferable b****es. It's all over Hollywood as well. For the record, I really didn't have a problem with how Kelly Thompson portrayed Gambit for the most part. She was just too focused on Rogue of course.
I read the issue for Rogue and Gambit. If you read the little in between pane, it has a set of text messages between the two that explains why Gambit was drunk. It wasn't alcoholism....he and Rogue were on vacation, had reservations at a fancy restaurant, she was late, and while Gambit was waiting he ordered a bottle of wine for the table and then she kept getting later and later and he was drinking it.
Not great, but....Not completely gone. Worth noting, anyway.
I read the issue for Rogue and Gambit. If you read the little in between pane, it has a set of text messages between the two that explains why Gambit was drunk. It wasn't alcoholism....he and Rogue were on vacation, had reservations at a fancy restaurant, she was late, and while Gambit was waiting he ordered a bottle of wine for the table and then she kept getting later and later and he was drinking it.
Not great, but....Not completely gone. Worth noting, anyway.
I did miss that. It would have been much better illustrated than in a dialogue box. But yeah, I read Gambit the drunk, then Gambit the hung over with Destiny over him and taking the opportunity to lambast him. Not a great starter... I'll give the second issue a shot now, lol.
I didn't say it was a great start, and I know the ongoing problems. It saddens me but I know I might not be the target audience for every Gambit comic...and I'm liking Captain Marvel. I just wanted to point it out in case people missed it.
Hey now...
Doesnt really explain anything. This is Gambit. In NOLA. Not Bobby Drake. I don't think Gambit is above drinking because he's pissed - but it doesn't make much sense for Gambit... in New Orleans. It makes less sense for him to be fighting Thieves Guild hitmen. He's on the floor drunk - because he couldnt find anything else to do? Listen - it could get better. But this is a bad start.
I see Rogue heading to an Avengers book this Fall with Captain America, Quicksilver, Deadpool and Psylocke. Wonder what that means for Gambit.
I see Rogue heading to an Avengers book this Fall with Captain America, Quicksilver, Deadpool and Psylocke. Wonder what that means for Gambit.
I think that's a one-shot for free comic book day. Of course Duggan pulled her into it.
This is interesting...
"And how does Gimmick, breakout star of CHILDREN OF THE ATOM and 2023’s MARVEL’S VOICES: PRIDE, fall under the Goblin Queen’s sway?"
I don't buy that the awfulness comes from the writer's lack of understanding of the characters. Her writing is just below mediocre. She's just another talentless, self-absorb joke of a writer just like other "talents" at Marvel.
Dark X-Men synopsis feels not sincere.
Really, it should be like this:
From mastermind X-Office and editors that gave you:
1. No Gambit in HOX/POX
2. 4 years of suffering with Tini Howard's Excalibur
3. Dumb Gambit who blow up himself to Death in KOX
4. Pathetic Gambit in R&Gambit book where he is afraid to fight Black Panther and must put innocent life of kind woman in danger, so he can escape.
Here comes a brand new awesome book that Gambit fans must buy to see Gambit used as wallpaper or not used at all, because this is the way Steve Foxe used (he did nothing in 5 issues except being dumb and blowing up his friends in space) Gambit in HOX 92 mini.
Please Gambit fans buy our book about Jean clone and D listers whom noone cares about because whe added Gambit just for sales. He will be a wallpaper but we know he sells.
Gambit#1 is #20, R&G#1 is #12, but first amazing Tini Howard book without Gambit Cap Britain Betsy #1 is just #87.So please Gambit fans buy our books but remember that Gambit is a creep and X office hates him.
This is probably the worst characterization I've seen regarding Gambit. If not the worst, it's top 2 or 3. Absolutely astounding how badly (or efficiently) they are assassinating his character. I felt like great steps had been made to re-build his character in recent months with Claremont writing him in 2 books and Thompson's solid portrayal.This is their revenge for us s***ting on Howard. She didn't write the best Gambit but at least most of what she did with him was arguably in character. The X-Office is showing us what they can do with the gloves off.
This is like 2 steps forward, 3 miles back. Good grief! :-\
This is their revenge for us s***ting on Howard. She didn't write the best Gambit but at least most of what she did with him was arguably in character. The X-Office is showing us what they can do with the gloves off.
Some sinister coincidences are here.
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In R&G #3, Gambit leaves a comic called Rogue and Gambit, way to go. All he does in this issue is get scolded (again) by a fellow X-Man, get kicked out, and then talk about how mysterious Rogue has become??? Very lackluster story.Show of hands of who actually wants Gambit back in this book?
This is top three worst Gambit depiction ever, up there with "clown pants Gambit" and Racky LeBeau. All I hope for now is for this to be so irrelevant, so insignificant that it can be brushed off and never touched upon again. With our luck, though, it's just silly hope.
Yeah thanks for filling us in WhiteVeils. I had been wondering what was up with our boy.
Question for all: Is "All New X-Factor" with Gambit on the team worth checking out? I've been thinking about picking up the books.
Yeah thanks for filling us in WhiteVeils. I had been wondering what was up with our boy.
Question for all: Is "All New X-Factor" with Gambit on the team worth checking out? I've been thinking about picking up the books.
Yeah thanks for filling us in WhiteVeils. I had been wondering what was up with our boy.If you mean the one penned by PAD, it started out good but then he became obsessed with new characters he created and lost interest in Gambit.
Question for all: Is "All New X-Factor" with Gambit on the team worth checking out? I've been thinking about picking up the books.
Just a few updates.
Captain Marvel issue 50 did not have Gambit in it, focusing just on Carol Danvers and her 'afterlife'? Overall, through 49 this was a nice sequence for Gambit: He wasn't the star, but he was a good contributor and even a leader. Lots of callbacks to old X-Factor (?) days (I think?). He probably won't be in this series any more.
Rogue and Gambit 4.
Gambit did not 'abandon' Rogue, and was following her to help, which was good and what I thought he was doing. However, he didn't make it in time.
From the dialogue and so on, the author is hinting that part of what is going on with Gambit is in response to his recent 'death' in Knights of X, and he's dealing with some sort of trauma and depression. Not his best look, but it doesn't bother me as bad as some...at least they are pointing to there being a reason for it. Everyone is wanting Gambit to open up and share his feelings with Rogue, but they're pointing out that she's keeping all sorts of things secret from him. She uses the excuse 'it's just the job', but just because she has an excuse doesn't mean that it's going to not be extremely difficult for Gambit to try to be open with Rogue.
Anyway.
Extreme Xmen ended its arc without really another big moment for Gambit, unfortunately, but he held his own in the fights. Not a central character.
Anyway...don't know if he's in anything else, but trying to keep things updated.
Ahem, remember the affair? You don't? Good it never happened.
All-New X-Factor had some nice moments but overall was a wasted opportunity with no ending.
Gambit had some nice moments with Polaris and Quicksilver but overall he was just there like a POV without big influence.
Gambit appeared in Marvel Voices Pride Anthology in Black Cat story. He told that he is not a King anymore and she used Chandra gem that for some reason in Nola to contact Chandra and take her on a date.
Didn't read it.
Just saw a review.
Not sure how authentic this is, but rumor has it that both Taylor Kitsch and Channing Tatum is gonna appear on the Deadpool 3 movie. Hopefully not X-force style if it's real. Source 1 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/deadpool-3-features-two-incredible-x-men-cameos-no-one-expected/ar-AA1cTJqX?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=7a16cb94a17f4cbcaebff37a74929ad9&ei=11&fbclid=IwAR0TaN3CmF_94uNc2UlmYfOOqTFPhJ9A7yJaG9zozEvJI8v89PKTCTtjox4) 2 (https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/channing-tatum-deadpool-3.html)
Gambit appeared in Marvel Voices Pride Anthology in Black Cat story. He told that he is not a King anymore and she used Chandra gem that for some reason in Nola to contact Chandra and take her on a date.
Didn't read it.
Just saw a review.
Ended my subs a few years ago, digital if I'm interested and I've yet to finish the Claremont mini. I'm getting rid of my 'floppies'. I've literally pulled any Gambit books that mattered to me and getting rid of the rest (in any way I can btw).
Wait, they did @#@$ what?! You know what... don't care. Haven't read an X-Men comic in 2 months and have no plans to in the future. Ending all my X-Men subs at my next comic store pickup. That leaves WILDcats only on my pull and that's a limited series. I feel like it's over.
According to MTTSH (very very reliable leaker), Channing Tatum has already filmed his Gambit cameo in "Deadpool 3" :gambit:
Aside from X-Factor and Mr and Mrs X, when was Gambit recognized as the King of Thieves anyways? Might as well dump the title. It's as impactful as his hypnotic charm power.
According to MTTSH (very very reliable leaker), Channing Tatum has already filmed his Gambit cameo in "Deadpool 3" :gambit:
As long as it this came doesn't involve him getting killed by Deadpool, it should be interesting. If the other rumors are true, Deadpool is killing the Foxverse. I hate those "Deadpool murders everyone" comics. In a movie, it'd be even worse and even more pointless.
As long as it this came doesn't involve him getting killed by Deadpool, it should be interesting. If the other rumors are true, Deadpool is killing the Foxverse. I hate those "Deadpool murders everyone" comics. In a movie, it'd be even worse and even more pointless.
Agreed. Though, I find it hard to imagine Channing Tatum finally being able to play Gambit just to have the character killed off or humiliated. I hate the "Deadpool murders everyone" stuff too. Why would they think that's a good idea? They already murdered Mr Fantastic and Professor X in Dr Strange 2. Now they're going kill off more X-Men in a meta Deadpool movie? Man, that's really hyping up the X-Men for the MCU. If true I don't know what the hell they're thinking. I honestly don't like any of the X-Men being in a Deadpool movie anyway.
Wait, they did @#@$ what?! You know what... don't care. Havent read an X-Men comic in 2 months and have no plans to in the future. Ending all my X-Men subs at my next comic store pickup. That leaves WILDcats only on my pull and that's a limited series. I feel like it's over.
Ended my subs a few years ago, digital if I'm interested and I've yet to finish the Claremont mini. I'm getting rid of my 'floppies'. I've literally pulled any Gambit books that mattered to me and getting rid of the rest (in any way I can btw).
As for Gambit, he went downhill after Asmus.
What has happened to the industry, I don't understand it and now I'm at the point, like you - I can't care.
Those still reading, keep us up to date. It is appreciated. :D
Not sure how authentic this is, but rumor has it that both Taylor Kitsch and Channing Tatum is gonna appear on the Deadpool 3 movie. Hopefully not X-force style if it's real. Source 1 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/deadpool-3-features-two-incredible-x-men-cameos-no-one-expected/ar-AA1cTJqX?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=7a16cb94a17f4cbcaebff37a74929ad9&ei=11&fbclid=IwAR0TaN3CmF_94uNc2UlmYfOOqTFPhJ9A7yJaG9zozEvJI8v89PKTCTtjox4) 2 (https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/channing-tatum-deadpool-3.html)
Interesting. Told you it would be easy purp. ;)
Honestly I think bringing the multiverse nonsense to Deadpool 3 is a dumb idea as well. I hate this multivariate crap. Supposedly Ryan Reynolds was not allowed to ad-lib at all during the filming of this movie. :idiot2: Isn't that the whole reason why the first 2 were successful?
Not that that god-awful Rogue and Gambit series is over, can we pretend it never happened? It's just so pointless. Def not the first time Rogue comes off as cold, but I just can't handle Gambit being dumb and unlikable. Pretty art wasted on such immature, inconsistent pages of garbage. An AI could come up with a more plausible and emotional relationship.
Interesting. Told you it would be easy purp. ;)
Honestly I think bringing the multiverse nonsense to Deadpool 3 is a dumb idea as well. I hate this multivariate crap. Supposedly Ryan Reynolds was not allowed to ad-lib at all during the filming of this movie. :idiot2: Isn't that the whole reason why the first 2 were successful?
Glad that trash R&G mini ended. Pure garbage.
Gambit will fight Odessa Drake who is a leader of NY Thieves Guild in X-Men Anthology.
https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/marvels-voices-x-men-1-2023-guide-first-look (https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/marvels-voices-x-men-1-2023-guide-first-look)
Raphael Draccon and Carolina Munhóz, bestselling Brazilian fantasy novelists and screenwriters, take one of Marvel’s most iconic couples out on a date in their very first Marvel work! Drawn by artist Jethro Morales, this story is packed with twists and turns as Gambit drags Rogue out for a romantic night out to… rob the Thieves Guild?!
(https://cdn.marvel.com/content/1x/marvoicesxmen2023001_draccon_munhoz_morales.jpg)
So on a scale of 1-10 are people more or less upset that R&G are still together based on how anti Gambit the last mini was ?I try not to blame characters for bad writers. Marvel's writers are more than capable of hating Gambit and writing him terribly even if Rogue didn't exist.
So on a scale of 1-10 are people more or less upset that R&G are still together based on how anti Gambit the last mini was ?The consensus seems to be ignore the mini except for what Rogue did at the end, since that actually has potential consequences. Nobody is blaming Gambit or Rogue for anything, as everyone agreed all characters in this mini were written poorly.
The consensus seems to be ignore the mini except for what Rogue did at the end, since that actually has potential consequences. Nobody is blaming Gambit or Rogue for anything, as everyone agreed all characters in this mini were written poorly.Yeah, that wouldn’t have made the mini any better. It’s was bizarrely anti gambit and rogue (rogue didn’t even try to help the ‘hostage’ and she ends up fricking kidnapping manifold.)
It’s not night crawler, it’s stupid Azezeal (or however you spell his stupid name. Night crawlers dad from the very stupid Draco story.) Nightcrawler is going to be prentending to be Spider-Man in the latest reboot of his low selling series. Apparently the not a preacher and not a cop reboots didn’t stick, so the newest is not Spider-Man.My bad, I didn't know Azazel was in the Marvel verse. Thanks for giving me info.
Yeah, that wouldn’t have made the mini any better. It’s was bizarrely anti gambit and rogue (rogue didn’t even try to help the ‘hostage’ and she ends up fricking kidnapping manifold.)I've no words. smh.
He actually started out in the comics, in one of the worst comic stories ever written, the Draco, by Chuck Austen. A good quote about it from the House to Astonish podcast, (it also applies to dreadful mini) ‘If you like this story you are wrong, and I can prove it with math.’Ah, Chuck Austen... I remember reading a fanfic back when he was writing X-Men, where Gambit and Iceman go to his house to have a talk with him about how he was writing their characters. It was the first time I ever saw a creative used as a character in a fic and it's still not something that's common now. I've looked for it over the years but I haven't see it again. I remember in it Austen kept saying how much he loved their characters and kept trying to defend how he was writing them, and the more he did that the more Gambit just wanted to blow his ass up.
X-Men 97 Gambit
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X-Men 97 Gambit
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Nice! Copied this link and the comment from CBR:
Quote from Jbenito
Short video of Hasbro execs showcasing some of the new toys at SDCC. I particularly like when Ryan Ting makes it a point to say Gambit is his favorite X-Man at 3:40 and Agent M remains quiet. :cool:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1682531416410562561 (https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1682531416410562561)
https://www.spirithalloween.com/product/adult-gambit-costume-x-men/250179.uts (https://www.spirithalloween.com/product/adult-gambit-costume-x-men/250179.uts)Damn, that is COOL!
Check out what'sgoing to be at Spirit Halloween this year.
Cool, lol. That cool though. Was there ever a costume before, even in the original animated series days? I remember seeing Wolverine costumes, but no one else.
https://www.spirithalloween.com/product/adult-gambit-costume-x-men/250179.uts (https://www.spirithalloween.com/product/adult-gambit-costume-x-men/250179.uts)
Check out what'sgoing to be at Spirit Halloween this year.
I wonder if that cover is representative of the books actual content?
Are Moon Knight and Gambit even gonna appear in this issue?
The cover art appears to be an homage to Moon Knight#53:
(https://i.imgur.com/KiHfgu2.jpg)
Particularly the middle panel from this page:
(https://i.imgur.com/5ZiMtFe.jpg)
It was a subplot that started in the Infinity War crossover from 1992. Gambit and Moon Knight square off for the 1st time and Psylocke scans Moon Knights mind. She discovers he has some kind of disease. She tasks Gambit with breaking the info to him. This issue and the one previous wrap up that subplot.
Interesting... I'm not familiar with this issue. You'd think it would have been referenced in their fight back in AvX.
WOW, I want it. LOLMarvel Tarot Deck and Guidebookhttps://www.rizzoliusa.com/book/9780789341235 (https://www.rizzoliusa.com/book/9780789341235)
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The problem with Jordan White isn't his opinions, apparently, it's not even his taste in characters - it's his backbone. I wasn't expecting him to admit that he liked Gambit more than Rogue. You wouldn't guess that based on what he's allowed his writers to do with the character in the past few years. Especially in Howard's parade of D&D X-Men books.
https://aiptcomics.com/2023/10/09/x-men-monday-223-x-m-a-jordan-d-white/ (https://aiptcomics.com/2023/10/09/x-men-monday-223-x-m-a-jordan-d-white/)
AIPT: I was going to say, Blob is very successful with the X-ladies. One more relationship question before we move on. X-Fan Sebastian Galindo wanted to know what you think of Rogue and Gambit’s marriage. Personally, Sebastian loves it.
Jordan: It depends on what you want from them, you know? So, those are characters that I like. I like both of them quite a bit. If I’m being fully honest, I like one of them a little bit more than I like the other. But I’m also not crazy about either of them — I’m not like a super fan of either of them — so I don’t have super strong opinions about “Here’s when they worked best” and “Here’s the thing that they should be doing at all times.”The difference between your typical X-character and your typical non-X-character is that a random superhero in the Marvel Universe is more likely to have a solo book. Most of them are solo characters who have to work on their own. And taking a character like that and giving them a permanent relationship, like a marriage, has a lot of difficulties behind it.
Courtesy of Marvel ComicsI’m not saying there are no stories about married people, but I think they change the stakes and they change what kind of story you can tell kind of fundamentally. However, on the X-front, mostly they’re not characters who we tell solo stories about. Mostly, they’re characters that are told about in a team context. And I feel like that gives us a lot more wiggle room to do things with those characters that you might be less willing to do with a solo character. So you’ve got characters who you go, “You know what, let’s allow those characters to be married.” It just means you’re probably not going to have as many stories where everyone is flirting with Rogue or “Who is she going to choose” stories anymore. If we tell a story about Rogue’s relationship, it’s going to be about her relationship with Gambit and whether it’s working or not, and how they’re going to make it work. And it’s the same with having children — it’s slightly more likely and more acceptable for an X-character to have a child than it is for a non-X-character because to some extent you can go, “Well, that character can become a parent character rather than the whole book is now about a parent.”
Jordan: So, with Rogue and Gambit, I can understand people who feel strongly in both directions, because obviously their romance is super fun. And to see it be paid off and you can go, “You know what? It worked for those two. Look at those crazy kids, they’re in love.” And sometimes they lie to each other and then they fight, but I feel like that can work.But that’s not to say I don’t understand the other side, because again, there are people who love different things about those characters. I mean, is Gambit still going to flirt with everybody? Yeah, but he’s probably not going to kiss as many ladies as he might’ve back in the day. And wouldn’t it be great to give Gambit his own series where he’s going around the world stealing things and romancing women in every port? Yeah, but it’s probably not going to happen while they’re married. Anyway, I think they’re great, I think they’re fun, I love that they have cats together.
OK, so the character I like slightly more than the other is Gambit because I see some cool potential in him that I always want to do more stuff with. And is it a concern that it might dull his edges a little bit to have him as a married guy? Yeah, maybe a little bit. Maybe it shapes the kind of stories you want to tell with him. And the ideal story that I might want to tell with Gambit might not be the one that we would tell when he’s married
Courtesy of Marvel ComicsAIPT: Makes sense. And while Remy is your favorite of the two, several X-Fans actually sent in Rogue questions. In fact, this next question gets submitted a lot, so I’m finally going to ask it. Dave, Haley, and S wanted to know if it’s possible for Rogue to get a new costume since she is one of the only characters that didn’t get a new look in the Krakoan era.Jordan: No, I’m sorry. It’s not possible.
So the answer is yes, it is possible. I mean, ask yourself this question: If we are going to give her a new costume in our plans, do you want me to tell you? Or do you want it to be a cool surprise that happens?AIPT: They need to know so they can finally get a good night’s sleep, Jordan.Jordan: You’re going to see her wearing something different at some point. I know that for a fact. But I don’t want to tell you anything more about it.
But on that note, thanks for a great conversation, Jordan! I’m already looking forward to the next one — once we know a bit more about what happens after the Fall of X. But for now, X-Fans, let’s take an eXclusive look at some of the Fall of X panels coming in the not-too-distant future to a comic near you, courtesy of Jordan.
The problem with Jordan White isn't his opinions, apparently, it's not even his taste in characters - it's his backbone. I wasn't expecting him to admit that he liked Gambit more than Rogue. You wouldn't guess that based on what he's allowed his writers to do with the character in the past few years. Especially in Howard's parade of D&D X-Men books.
Leo Castellani's X-Men 60th Anniversary variant.
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