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« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2009, 11:46:03 PM » |
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It would be interesting to see where the relationship goes with those two, but I don't want to see anything else ROMY in the hands of a writer who has bad writing style(s). The writers just put him on the back-burner, and that's just sad. It angers us fans b/c we want to see Gambit happy, and the writers are just tossin' him to the side. What gives, Marvel?  Well at least Carey is writing Rogue well. Sure Gambit is in the backburner but he still suports and is with Rogue and thats the important thing. I think Carey writes an amazing Rogue. I hope he goes on to write ROMY forever and ever.
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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2010, 06:23:24 AM » |
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Like with the Trial and the Death arc. And with the reintroduction of DeathSeriously, where is he going with this? I'm pretty sure that it's just going to turn into another reason why they can't be together.
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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2010, 09:51:08 AM » |
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Well at least Carey is writing Rogue well. Sure Gambit is in the backburner but he still suports and is with Rogue and thats the important thing. I think Carey writes an amazing Rogue. I hope he goes on to write ROMY forever and ever.
I would have said the same thing up until I saw the cover for 232. Now I'm skeptical about it. But even last issue was amazing. I hope 232 doesn't ruin the whole arc for me...
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« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2010, 01:05:02 PM » |
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Has anyone read Marvel Previews. It states that there are several men buying for Rogue's attention and now that she can touch, she has a choice. And who she's picks will surprise us. I don't know about you, but this doesn't sound like it's Gambit. And if it's not, I'm going to be very upset. Now, I admit that I never liked this new arc, but after Xmen Legacy where she gets control over her power and they kiss, she seemed happy. True that she wanted to talk to Remy later about "us", but that she can suddenly turn her back on him and fall for someone else because she can touch is ridiculous.
I can't stand Carey's writing of Gambit. He's a popular character and because Carey doesn't like him, he wants to get rid of him. And the best way is for Rogue to find someone else. And Marvel just doesn't give a hoot. I'm about to quick the books and read just fanfiction from people like Valerie who knows what she's doing when writing Gambit's character.
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« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2010, 02:25:59 AM » |
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Has anyone read Marvel Previews. It states that there are several men buying for Rogue's attention and now that she can touch, she has a choice. And who she's picks will surprise us. I don't know about you, but this doesn't sound like it's Gambit. And if it's not, I'm going to be very upset. Now, I admit that I never liked this new arc, but after Xmen Legacy where she gets control over her power and they kiss, she seemed happy. True that she wanted to talk to Remy later about "us", but that she can suddenly turn her back on him and fall for someone else because she can touch is ridiculous.
I can't stand Carey's writing of Gambit. He's a popular character and because Carey doesn't like him, he wants to get rid of him. And the best way is for Rogue to find someone else. And Marvel just doesn't give a hoot. I'm about to quick the books and read just fanfiction from people like Valerie who knows what she's doing when writing Gambit's character.
Well I sure hope that Gambit stays with Rogue otherwise what would be the point of him as a character? Right ROMY fans? But honestly Carey is writing Gambit exactly the way us ROMY fans tell Carey to. Heres hoping he continues supporting Rogue in all of her adventures.
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« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2010, 02:53:29 AM » |
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Well I sure hope that Gambit stays with Rogue otherwise what would be the point of him as a character? Right ROMY fans? But honestly Carey is writing Gambit exactly the way us ROMY fans tell Carey to. Heres hoping he continues supporting Rogue in all of her adventures.
I gotta disagree... I mean, I'm a ROMY fan as the day is long, but I don't think that's the only point for him as a character... That's the problem that ROMY has run us into... He's become "Rogue's beau" instead of just "Gambit". In a healthy relationship, both people are not only the other person's better half, but they are still their own person as well. He's losing his identity because people aren't writing him in the relationship properly because they don't want to take the time to write him well. He's a very complex character and the writers are basically making him out to be this pawn for Rogue to play with as she wishes. Which is out of original character for her too. I want them to be together. I want the "surprise" to be that she picks him because obviously us fans think they're not gonna do that for us because of how things have happened in the past. But I want it to be good for the both of them. He doesn't need to be a doormat and she doesn't need to be the user. I love both characters dearly and I love them together even more, but only if done properly. IMO, the best ROMY I've seen is in X-Treme X-Men and in X-Men: The End... sadly, both done by Claremont. >< If only he can write them properly, we have problems...
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« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2010, 07:34:40 AM » |
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Well I sure hope that Gambit stays with Rogue otherwise what would be the point of him as a character? Right ROMY fans? But honestly Carey is writing Gambit exactly the way us ROMY fans tell Carey to. Heres hoping he continues supporting Rogue in all of her adventures.
I respectfully disagree with above commentary as well.  Whats the point of him as a character? This entire site is devoted to him, there is a point to the character. He is the dark hero of the group, he is more relevant to the Xmen now than in the past because that type of hero has become popular. Marvel just doesn't see it because they'd rather use other characters. He is stealth, charming, and has an incredibly dangerous power, that he only uses when he needs to, he doesn't always rely on his powers. He's a survivor, he knows how to take care of himself and how to help others. I could go on but I would think his "point as a character" would be more obvious, and I'm sure others could add to his "point as a character" if they so wish. But for me ... his point as a character is NOT to be Rogue's beau. IMO of course and with respect. You imply his only reason to exist is to be with Rogue. That is not Gambit as a character at all, I'm a Gambit fan first, and I don't really care all that much for Rogue so the implication that he his nothing more is bothersome. Bothersome meaning its a shame that he is viewed in such a way. Since I don't view him that way at all.  Carey is writing for the ROMY fans? Is he really? I don't think so. I think he pitches ideas to Marvel of stuff he wants to write about, I don't think the fan's desires come into play at all. Marvel says okay or nay, and then every once in awhile, tell the writer they have to participate in whatever cross over event they deem necessary. He'll stop story mid arc if he has too to be in the dictate, and then pick up where he left off. You also imply that all ROMY fans want Gambit as a supporting character for Rogue. What do you mean by that? Do you mean that all ROMY fans want Gambit as background material? I would be curious to hear from the rest of the ROMY group on this forum - is that what you want from Gambit? Just Rogue's boyfriend and nothing more? I merely ask questions for further clarification, and so that we can really discuss the subject.  Please do not feel any offense. Admin note: this sort of topic has a way of getting ugly fast, lets not go there. Please express yourself but with respect to others, no personal attacks or character bashing please. :end of Admin note.
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« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2010, 10:45:28 AM » |
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Well I sure hope that Gambit stays with Rogue otherwise what would be the point of him as a character? Right ROMY fans? But honestly Carey is writing Gambit exactly the way us ROMY fans tell Carey to. Heres hoping he continues supporting Rogue in all of her adventures.
Nothing personal meant by this at all but this is exactly the thinking that makes me despise Remy anywhere *near* her! Really? Is this truly how you feel? Wow...
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« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2010, 01:05:32 PM » |
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As an old skool ROMY fan (read, before Antarctica and the relationship seemed to be the healthiest for them both), I would love to see them together.
BUT NOT if it means Gambit plays second fiddle to Rogue and his only 'point' is to be her support. That's not a healthy relationship and it also makes for horrible reading and does a great disservice to both the characters.
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« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2010, 02:57:01 PM » |
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I am definitely a ROMY fan and Rogue is one of my favorite characters and the one that got me interested in the x-men in the first place, but I like Gambit better as a character whether he is with Rogue or not and would like to see him written as more than a support character regardless of whose support character he is.
...I think it would be nice if one of the writers would turn it around for a while and write Rogue as a support character for Gambit.
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« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2010, 03:10:53 PM » |
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...I think it would be nice if one of the writers would turn it around for a while and write Rogue as a support character for Gambit.
Agreed. Completely.
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« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2010, 06:14:11 PM » |
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Agreed. Completely.
Absolutely. It's far past her turn to show some support if she "cares" as much as you all seem to think she does. And I'll shut up now because I understand this is a Remy/Rogue friendly area. 
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« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2010, 10:50:24 PM » |
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IMO, the best ROMY I've seen is in X-Treme X-Men and in X-Men: The End... sadly, both done by Claremont. >< If only he can write them properly, we have problems...
Oh X-Treme X-men had the BEST Gambit. Gambit tied to a bed for half of a year screaming for Rogue to save him. With is shirt off too! My cup runneth over! *druels* I think you hit it right on the noggin. I think all of us ROMY fans are in agreement that X-treme x-men was the best version of Gambit in a long time. I always think of Rogue and Gambit being the opposite in a relationship. Where Gambit is the princess that Rogue has to save him  Carey isn't bad but your right he just doesn't write the romance as well as Claremont. Plus Gambit has this death thing going on, ew.
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« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2010, 11:07:14 PM » |
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Oh X-Treme X-men had the BEST Gambit. Gambit tied to a bed for half of a year screaming for Rogue to save him. With is shirt off too! My cup runneth over! *druels* I think you hit it right on the noggin. I think all of us ROMY fans are in agreement that X-treme x-men was the best version of Gambit in a long time. I always think of Rogue and Gambit being the opposite in a relationship. Where Gambit is the princess that Rogue has to save him  Carey isn't bad but your right he just doesn't write the romance as well as Claremont. Plus Gambit has this death thing going on, ew. it wasn't a bed. it was a platform thingy... but yes, def yum with the half-naked. however, he wasn't screaming for Rogue to save him. He wanted her as far away as possible. And he's fully capable of saving himself... he's done it multiple times.
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« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2010, 04:00:17 AM » |
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I always think of Rogue and Gambit being the opposite in a relationship. Where Gambit is the princess that Rogue has to save him  Plus Gambit has this death thing going on, ew. This is probably why you and I will always agree to disagree.  I have never seen Gambit as a princess in need of saving. He can take care of himself quite well. I don't mind the Death thing, it was the powers that I hated when he was first changed into Death, now that its more in alignment in what he can do, I would be curious as where Deathbit would go? But ... that "dark" road was the out of the book, so I'm guessing unless some other writer comes along, we'll never know. And its sooo vague that if they wanted to ignore it completely, thats easy to do as well. A mostly naked Remy is always good in my book! XXM and XM:TE were good and bad. CC is such a hit or miss type writer. There were moments where you're thinking, hey, he's got it right! And then he goes overboard. He certainly had a field day with XM:TE, talk about hitting the ROMY thing, married with kids, you have to enjoy that if your in that camp. 
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