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Offline wantutosigh

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Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« on: December 19, 2017, 05:35:59 PM »
Ummm... has anyone seen this yet? What did everyone think? I'll refrain for now on saying too much in case everyone is still waiting to see it. But I will say that... I really... really... did not like this movie. :'( 

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2017, 05:47:42 PM »
i love how butt hurt its made some of the theory fans but the film as a movie is not that good, very forced no pun intended, the Rey Kylo Luke plot is the only thing i liked about the move

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2017, 06:07:03 PM »
I am in minority but I really loved it.


I hated episode 7 because it has nothing new in it. The same movie but for new generation.
 Episode 8 has some mystery and really like Kylo plot too. He was lame in episode 7.
Really liked it. Luke was badass.

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2017, 07:37:44 PM »
I really liked it. Would have loved it if the character named Rose was completely removed from the movie.  The last 1/3 was freaking awesome though.

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2017, 10:28:52 PM »
I have so many problems with this movie. Force Awakens set up a bunch of stories/character arcs/ideas that this movie just dropped or did nothing with. Multiple subplots that went nowhere or were pointless. At least three hyped up characters were just a waste of time or made meaningless. No real character arcs for anyone expect Poe who at least had a solid story arc. Finn and Rose subplot was just awful. Rose just dragged down the character of Finn and she does not feel like a Star Wars character. A lot of humor fell flat. Kylo Ren ended on a bad note. Luke's entire "arc" was totally unsatisfying.


I can just go on and on. I went into this movie honestly thinking I was going to love it. But after it ended and it kept just sinking in I couldn't deny it. When The Force Awakens ended I couldn't wait for the next one and was super excited about where the story was going to go next. After Last Jedi ended I was just in a state of minor shock trying to come to grips with what I just saw. I'm not excited at all for the next one. I don't even know where they could go from here. It's like they just let Rian Johnson do whatever he wanted disregarding anything JJ Abrams set up while at the same time letting him disregard setting anything up for the future. JJ really is going to have his hands full trying to make something interesting for episode 9. Anyway, the whole thing was just a real bummer for me.
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Offline Miss Misery

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2017, 06:45:26 PM »
I liked it, but then with SW I'm easier to please than with other fandoms...I didn't like the Rose/Finn plot and wasn't pleased with Luke's transition; I guess it's understandable, but I'm still not happy about it. Also, Poe got off too easily, imo.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2017, 08:32:23 AM »
How did I miss this thread. I trust you folks when it comes to things like this - I haven't been feelin' this film. As in, the hype didn't get me to go opening weekend and I still haven't seen it. Now, I'm in the wait til on demand, dvd mode or go see it. LOL. I'll probably go see it but still, there was something different in marketing wise for this one too.

However, I've been warned by others that I might have an issue or two with the film. LOL And you all are confirming it. Not a bad thing.  :)

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2017, 07:10:51 PM »
Thinking about it more, what happened to Luke makes me like it less and less. I may yet join the crowd! :-D
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2017, 07:18:20 PM »
im so conflicted over Luke on one hand he has ascended and is fitting on the other it sucks lol

Offline wantutosigh

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2017, 08:38:28 PM »
Luke Skywalker is one of the most iconic heroes in all of film history and he was not properly honored or respected in this movie. Given the two year long wait to see this beloved character once again, they handled it maybe as badly as they could have. IMHO

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2017, 10:12:41 AM »
I mean, I can see why it was done—to make him more complicated...but this isn’t just anybody. And i’m glad to see Mark Hamill disagreed with the choice at first (and still isn’t completely comfortable with it). He’s said he tried to reconcile the change by thinking of the Luke here as “Rian’s Luke” whereas the one in the original trilogy is “George’s Luke.” That doesn’t make me feel any better, because characters should remain consistent, regardless of who’s in charge. But then i’m Preaching to the choir, lol

Hated the casino subplot. I think i’m Supposed to love Rose but she just feels forced.

I did like the crystal foxes, though.

Also remembered that Luke was the one who sent out the map, so why now has he all of a sudden given up?

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Offline Meliorist

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2017, 01:33:52 PM »
I liked the movie but then, I have always been pretty lukewarm (ba dum tshh) to the Star Wars movies. The extended universe was more fascinating to me and the Rogue One movie was one I enjoyed a lot as well.


What I liked was that there is character growth and development because the Force Awakens just felt like it recycled A New Hope...take that with a grain of salt because it has been more than a decade since I watched any of the original trilogy.


The Luke character arc was nice to see because of what he is supposed to represent. He failed big time and maybe not entirely his fault but he did lose the next generation of Jedi. That has to sting, especially since it came from a moment of weakness. That all opened him up to a more honest view of the Jedi because failure is our greatest teacher. It allowed him to see flaws that weren't apparent when all he had to compare was Vader/ Emperor. Eventually he decided to get his Yoda on, despite his misgivings, and then he got his Kenobi on and died for a cause. There was a nice symmetry in his arc, with lessons as well. Even great men fail, even heroes need help, even a Jedi can be wrong. Thanks to Rey, he tried again.


The casino was also a part that I like but only because of Finn. When he whooped as he entered the casino, I remembered that he was a clone trooper without a name until Poe gave him one. Finn never saw any part of the world that wasn't though a scope or visor and that made the casino glamorous to him. He didn't see the decadence, he saw what life could be like. Rose, though I don't like the character, pointed out what life is. She pointed out the cruelty and corruption. For me, Finn's naivety is the only reason why the scene worked.


So, while I did enjoy the move, I also see while people don't because  I appreciated what they tried to do even if they execution of it was lacking.

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2017, 05:18:59 PM »
I finally saw this film today. I liked it. 

I understand some of the criticisms with Rose, it was like they needed someone with Finn to do certain things in the film. It couldn't be Poe and not Rey.

As for Luke, I understand why some would not be happy with how he was developed in this film but I think since I knew that going in, it didn't bother me that much.

I liked Kylo Ren, and thought some of his stuff was clever.

I will say this - I was literally shocked at how many people were in line for the movies today and most of it for Star Wars.  I was in a full theater too. Blew me away.  I think I'd like to watch it again just to better process the whole thing.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2017, 06:08:08 PM »
Glad that you liked it, Neko :)


I liked it a lot because for me it was a fresh Star Wars movie. Episode 7 has nothing new for me as for Star Wars fan.

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2017, 10:49:07 PM »
I think I liked TFA better, it was a bit of a rehash, but a well done rehash. I did like TLJ, but if you think about at all, it starts to make less sense.