The current state of entertainment is sad right now. I really worry about all of it going forward. It doesn't seem like it's going to get any better for a while. It's also why I worry about a Disney Gambit show/movie. What are they going to do to him so that he's not "problematic"?
I've seen this compliant several times, that Gambit flirts (oh how dare he) even when he's with Rogue, but as always, they never go into details on this, they can't list a single title, vol. or issue number, no quotes or show any images proving any of it. Asking for details and you'll either get none or just barely a handful of pitiful examples with no context. It's just all this vague talk or their lying there asses off, many of these websites are written by people (mostly males) who've never had a girlfriend or even been out on a date in there life, inadequate self-conscious losers, but they want to act like experts on such things. If one actually takes the time to read the comics, you'll see that Gambit is one of the best things to ever happen to Rogue. Nobody really cares for CBR anymore, they only make those kinds of articles for clicks, don't give them any.
I’ve been rereading a lot of old X-Men comics (because I’m so not interest in anything coming out) and Gambit solos as well. Honestly Layman’s solo is worse than I remembered. Remy was called out on flirting while having a girlfriend (“that mutie-cutie with the streak in her hair”) by a supporting character. And this book is also responsible for that horrible Lili Penrose incident that led to the supposed sex tape, which is number one (and only) evidence that Gambit is a cheating scumbag, even though the content on the tape was never clarified. All in all, Gambit has never been written cheating on Rogue. The few instances I recall him having flings were when he and Rogue were on one of their hundreds breaks. Gambit is supposed to be a ladies’ man but has never been much of it. I mean, except for Rogue, he hasn’t had any significant love interest within the X-Men (maybe because he was paired up with Rogue really early and it stuck. I would’ve enjoyed him having a relationship with some other X-woman, for a change). Also he’s been married twice. Some scoundrel.
Always viewed Gambit as a flirt, and a man that COULD pull any chick he wanted, but, didn't...as in he was very exclusive. Which makes him better than say, Tony Stark. s***, Wolverine's had more confirmed sexual partners than Gambit.
The sex tape thing was an absolute mess for several reasons. First of all, it IS the only evidence we have of Gambit "cheating" on Rogue. Second of all, the entire incident felt as if it happened because of this perception that men are incapable of refusing sex when it's offered by a hot chick no matter what the circumstances or whether they actually like her or not ("I may be homo sapian superior, but I am still only human" or whatever the line was). Another instance I felt like the writers were the scumbags rather than Gambit, especially because it actually seems to be played as an unmitigated triumph that he succeeded in getting away with it and snowing Rogue???
I agree that it speaks volumes about the writers rather than the character. On the other hand, female writers like Lui and Thompson wrote Gambit as (too) nice and devoted.
I agree with your comments spot on 100%. My only issue with this one is, I feel Liu had little choice. I agree, her Gambit is too nice...but, I think she rehabilitated his character quite a bit, she clearly understood him and his relationship with other characters, and she respected the character's fans. Yes, he was too soft. I felt this more a problem in her X title, than X23, where he was meant to be a mentor, but, she the main character...basically, he couldn't outshine her....bt still, her take on him was the best one (IMO) we've gotten in ...a decade, save maybe Amus.
Agreed. I actually loved seeing Gambit in X-23, his big brother role, how the two of them bonded, how he called Wolverine out on not being there for Laura. Yeah, he was soft and sweet but he was also badass. Can’t say the same about Liu’s X-Men run, though. Gambit was barely there and his relationship with Cecilia Reyes was boring, they had nothing in common. Missed opportunity because Liu is a Gambit fan and she had a good grasp on him.
Agreed. Him losing a fight to Mystique, him refusing to even fight Bobby because it was pointless, doing nothing of note...disappointing. I did enjoy his diner issue with Wolverine though. I actually used to tweet with Liu years ago, about Gambit or Game of Thrones...she was very polite.
He also had great moment when he told how he defeated his death persona and when noticed Iceman while Karma weren`t aware. I liked Liu`s Gambit in AXM. He was cool but only supportive. He was a leader of a reason.
edit again: Liu would have used Rogue, but wasn't allowed. She wrote a romy story that was published in a collection of Xmen stories. She had a far better handle on the relationship than one would think.
