Topic: Gambit 2024

[NElizaV]

https://x.com/BrunoMellx/status/1864793928366506100

Spoilers for UXM 7. The comments aren't very positive, albeit for different reasons than mine.

Gambit's actions don't feel very fluid, imo.

Simone comments it's a theme to wonder if rogue's right or wrong, but she's not reacting right. Ok, then why is Gambit enabling her? You don't say "yes, dear" when your sweetheart is going to a suicide mission taking the kids. Things are happening bc they need them to happen.

[NElizaV]

https://x.com/BrunoMellx/status/1864799142419079295

Storm 3, dialogue for the scene we saw before.

[Toadman005]

https://x.com/BrunoMellx/status/1864799142419079295

Storm 3, dialogue for the scene we saw before.

Well, glad it was Remy she was calling/talking to. Rogue was impulsive and stupid there. Nightcrawler grey 11 inches.

[andresa]

https://x.com/BrunoMellx/status/1864799142419079295

Storm 3, dialogue for the scene we saw before.

Thought the dialogue would be worse in this. Not that bad. Still don’t like the art though.

[Toadman005]

https://x.com/BrunoMellx/status/1864793928366506100

Spoilers for UXM 7. The comments aren't very positive, albeit for different reasons than mine.

Gambit's actions don't feel very fluid, imo.

Simone comments it's a theme to wonder if rogue's right or wrong, but she's not reacting right. Ok, then why is Gambit enabling her? You don't say "yes, dear" when your sweetheart is going to a suicide mission taking the kids. Things are happening bc they need them to happen.

he really is nothing more than a neutered support piece in this s*** book.

[NElizaV]

he really is nothing more than a neutered support piece in this s*** book.

I don't even think it's s*** bc it's starting to going somewhere, but it feels more and more that Rogue wasn't the best choice to be the lead and that isn't Simone's fault entirely. Her fault is writing Rogue so alienated from the rest of the group because she's the leader. It feels like she would be more comfortable writing just her and Gambit being just there to be the love interest when Rogue's not saving the world alone.

Gambit's (through Simone's) mistake here is acting as if telling your spouse they're wrong and putting your foot down is a negative aspect in a marriage. "my wife's about to do something dangerous? I better say nothing at all and support her the best I can!" Simone is hinting that Rogue's wrong here and she's failing at not writing Gambit being the intuitive person he is, noticing it, and, doing something about it. Notice that rogue's said before she feels Gambit doesn't understand her, which is dumb as Gambit can read Rogue like an open book (not the way around). We're meant to believe he's observing Rogue crashing and doing nothing but passing time? Pffff.
 

Still, him and Kurt are absent at the end it the other book, so there must be some plan they managed to elaborate, but I'm sure it was all Gambit doing the thinking because despite what Rogue said, he is an strategist.

[Toadman005]

I don't even think it's s*** bc it's starting to going somewhere, but it feels more and more that Rogue wasn't the best choice to be the lead and that isn't Simone's fault entirely. Her fault is writing Rogue so alienated from the rest of the group because she's the leader. It feels like she would be more comfortable writing just her and Gambit being just there to be the love interest when Rogue's not saving the world alone.

Gambit's (through Simone's) mistake here is acting as if telling your spouse they're wrong and putting your foot down is a negative aspect in a marriage. "my wife's about to do something dangerous? I better say nothing at all and support her the best I can!" Simone is hinting that Rogue's wrong here and she's failing at not writing Gambit being the intuitive person he is, noticing it, and, doing something about it. Notice that rogue's said before she feels Gambit doesn't understand her, which is dumb as Gambit can read Rogue like an open book (not the way around). We're meant to believe he's observing Rogue crashing and doing nothing but passing time? Pffff.
 

Still, him and Kurt are absent at the end it the other book, so there must be some plan they managed to elaborate, but I'm sure it was all Gambit doing the thinking because despite what Rogue said, he is an strategist.

Agreed. Gambit is a master strategist, and quick on his feet. Episode 5 of X-Men 97 show as much. Yes, he has Spider-man level reflexes, but, it's not just reaction, it's intuitive brilliance. But when he wants to tibk ahead and pull off a job or heist, he does so. Successfully. When Gambit is written at his best, this is showcased. When he's writting as a buffoon, well...we all know.

[NElizaV]

He's also incredibly lucky because him not doing much is making him slide under all the criticism the book is having. Cyclops fans aren't happy with how this is being set up.

It could have been Gambit being the one antagonising Cyclops who, so far, is doing nothing wrong. Rogue's the one taking the blame. It's definitely not her year.

[Toadman005]

He's also incredibly lucky because him not doing much is making him slide under all the criticism the book is having. Cyclops fans aren't happy with how this is being set up.

It could have been Gambit being the one antagonising Cyclops who, so far, is doing nothing wrong. Rogue's the one taking the blame. It's definitely not her year.

Great observation. As the year of Gambit continues, Rogue keeps taking L's.

[purplevit]

Reynolds:

"The thing is I see Deadpool's a supporting character much more than he is a main because they want that's what they want they want but you can't unless you take everything away. You have to create a situation where he's so much the underdog and I don't think I can do that again so I think if he comes back it's going to be in someone else's movie - Channing Tatum- so excited to play Gambit and I would happily be the fifth banana in his movie or anyone else's."

https://www.gamesradar.com/entertainment/marvel-movies/after-the-massive-success-of-deadpool-and-wolverine-ryan-reynolds-says-he-sees-the-merc-with-a-mouth-as-more-of-a-supporting-character-going-forward/

[wantutosigh]

Reynolds:

"The thing is I see Deadpool's a supporting character much more than he is a main because they want that's what they want they want but you can't unless you take everything away. You have to create a situation where he's so much the underdog and I don't think I can do that again so I think if he comes back it's going to be in someone else's movie - Channing Tatum- so excited to play Gambit and I would happily be the fifth banana in his movie or anyone else's."

https://www.gamesradar.com/entertainment/marvel-movies/after-the-massive-success-of-deadpool-and-wolverine-ryan-reynolds-says-he-sees-the-merc-with-a-mouth-as-more-of-a-supporting-character-going-forward/

I don't want Deadpool anywhere near a Gambit movie. Unless it's a post credit scene cameo or something. I want to be able to take a Gambit movie seriously. Deadpool makes that impossible. That's why I am not a fan of his. For Deadpool to be successful, it's at the expense of all the other characters drama. The shame is Tatum feels owes Reynolds big time.

[hairlesscat]

This is just him reiterating what he said before, no? I feel like it's a bit embarrassing at this point. If MCU Channing Gambit were something Feige were interested in, I'm sure they BOTH would have heard something by now.

[NElizaV]

Marvel probably doesn't want to lose more money and they want something they know will profit, which is DP, but feels like Reynolds is done with it as the main character. Sounds like he's saying "why don't you hire instead this guy who is dying to play the role and I'll just show up for five minutes?" Sounds like a good deal, but I can see why Marvel is wary.

I think there is some interest for Chambit, but also they want a new Gambit for the MCU, someone younger. So, see it from Feige's perspective: "do I invest on something that's on everybody's mouth now and make some quick cash or wait two or three years to go full with it?"

I guess nobody expected Channing to be this accepted and now they don't know what to do with something that many want but was not in their plans. Gambit would be proud, heh.

[Sparta]

Agreed. Gambit is a master strategist, and quick on his feet. Episode 5 of X-Men 97 show as much. Yes, he has Spider-man level reflexes, but, it's not just reaction, it's intuitive brilliance. But when he wants to tibk ahead and pull off a job or heist, he does so. Successfully. When Gambit is written at his best, this is showcased. When he's writting as a buffoon, well...we all know.

I know I took a shot at DeMayo in my previous post (mostly about the grooming thing)...but I'll give him all the credit for writing a great Gambit in that 'Remember It' ep. Arguably the greatest X-Men moment ever in all media...plus his original plans for him in seasons 3 and 4 sounded pretty awesome.

As for Rogue's 2024, don't know what to make of it. Most hardcore Rogue fans weren't happy with her portrayal in XM 97 (I get it). And then to top it off she gets a gooner book based on her Savage Land bikini in the past while all the other female X-Men get much better concepts like epic space adventures, espionage, dark realms etc...If not for Gail having her lead Uncanny (and written with respect IMO). Rogue would've had a stinker of a year.

[NElizaV]

.If not for Gail having her lead Uncanny (and written with respect IMO). Rogue would've had a stinker of a year.

Funny you say that because a couple of comments were disappointed that Storm (#3) is having a sex scene and not R and G. So, it's the same "gooning" mentality, just more PC. She can't escape being seen as a sexual character, the difference is that she's doing it with someone her fans like.


This proves that the problem ain't just Gambit. Both of them are cursed with being associated together in a way the other characters are not. Cyclops is the "leader of the x-men", Jean is "Phoenix". They're together but are having adventures apart from each other and have their own identity. As for Rogue, some of her fans were mad at the Savage Land announcement, but want more sex scenes with Gambit... I know it's not all of them, but it's weird. At least with Gambit, there is the excuse that he's kinda James Bondish and those stories have femme fatales, but there is still so much to explore with him being a thief or a detective. The expectation is that both are meant to be portrayed in bed and that's not different than expect a skimpy outfit and some flitting with Magneto. It's still fanservice even if it's with your spouse. It's not a thing you see much among fans of Scott and Jean.


It's gonna be funny if the Savage Land number ends up being good and the cover was mostly bait. Doubtful, but hopeful.