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Re: Gambit 2025
« Reply #195 on: March 22, 2025, 08:48:35 AM »
At the end, it's just a bad choice of writer. Being horny for a character doesn't mean you are a fan and you will make a good job. She was hired after all the Remy's hype. It was always gonna be all about Rogue.
And it doesn't have to be that way. Scott and Jean or even Scott and Emma are prime examples. The difference was you had writers that wanted to tell Cyclops's story. Some of us may not have liked a lot of those stories or the direction they took the character but at least they didn't just diminish him or make him someone's accessory.

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Re: Gambit 2025
« Reply #196 on: March 22, 2025, 10:30:38 AM »

I agree that this feels out of character. The shades, the introspective behavior, the getting bullied. None of this fits with what we've seen before. He's being bullied because the writher doesn't know Gambit, doesn't care (just pretends) and is incapable of writing him in a compelling way.

Anyway, if this is the worst damage this writer can do, it'll be a win situation. Gambit isn't in the next solicits or on the covers (next arc is all about the new characters... again. It's not like we didn't predict they'd take all the space, right), so if this somehow leads into a solo written by Simone, I swear to God I quit. I doubt it though, doubt Gambit is getting a new solo, doubted last year and still do.   

I quit comics awhile ago. I bought one issue since and it was not good. I didn't even finish CC's mini. Lost interest. Simone is over-rated imv. The reading of the pain all of you are going through with the main man Gambit is tough. I feel for you because you are still participating and getting shafted.

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We need a male writer for Gambit. I know it sounds sexist but the last three women who had a hold of Gambit; he lost his agency and his history. He was never his own character it was all Rogue. This adds to my dislike of her.

I still want that divorce for him and new love interest. I know this statement would upset Rogue fans, but I get the feeling Rogue fans don't care about the character. As long as he is attached to Rogue, no matter what happens it is good for them. There are exceptions of course. Seriously let Magneto have Rogue and let her ruin another male character.

Getting back to the issue of bullying - I think a good topic to address. The execution of the topic sounds to me based on those here sounds like it was done poorly. smh.
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Re: Gambit 2025
« Reply #197 on: March 22, 2025, 11:48:03 AM »
Getting back to the issue of bullying - I think a good topic to address. The execution of the topic sounds to me based on those here sounds like it was done poorly. smh.
Can't remember fully, but i'm sure there was mention of Gambit's adoption not been totally accepted by the guild. It was upon JL's insistence as he knew he needed to be there with them. As I see it, he brought G to them when he realised he was the one they were waiting, but he personally adopted him when he noticed he was the one who saved him when he was a kid. As these people are very traditional, I can see why they wouldn't want the chance to be ruled by a "freak" who's not even JL's blood. Even as an adult some people had reservations about him.

So, while his family seemed to have accepted him, I am guessing it took time for the rest of the guild to do so, and G had to prove himself to them, which he did. This, imo, was a much better story. If you tell me that he is in debt to this guy because he wanted to prove himself so he wouldn't lose his new family as he didn't want to be alone again (instead of being beaten by other kids) I'd believe that because it's in character for him. He wouldn't care what some random kids do, but he would care that his father and new family would kick him out for not being good enough.

What i mean is, if you want to do the "bullying" arc, then have members of the guild questioning his presence: "who's this kid JL brought? He's not one of us, he's probably the son of the devil" yadayada. They wouldn't beat him out of fear of their boss, but they would murmur behind the Lebeaus' backs. The only reason G is beaten by bullies is because writer and readers get a kick out of seeing him humiliated, consciously or subconsciously, for being a charismatic male leader and, imo most importantly, for being a more popular character than Rogue.

I also wonder how much this is because Simone doesn't want or can't use more CC's characters. Royalties, permissions, all that jazz.
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Re: Gambit 2025
« Reply #198 on: March 22, 2025, 12:18:03 PM »
UXM12 & 14 variant cover



Looks amazing, except for the female faces, heh.

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Re: Gambit 2025
« Reply #199 on: March 23, 2025, 01:29:37 PM »
And it doesn't have to be that way. Scott and Jean or even Scott and Emma are prime examples. The difference was you had writers that wanted to tell Cyclops's story. Some of us may not have liked a lot of those stories or the direction they took the character but at least they didn't just diminish him or make him someone's accessory.
You nailed it there. There is no interest on writing a Gambit's story for a variety of reasons despite, past year has proven, he's still a popular character with potential to sell and people generally feel driven to him.

X-men office only wants one single plot: everybody hates mutants and everybody must suffer all the time. So, of course little Remy was going to be bullied as a kid, the difference being, that Rogue did hit back, Remy had to suffer it.

There are unlimited possibilities with Gambit, but to make it easier, you can go well with 1. unresolved lines from his childhood (where he came from, who are his parents, etc), 2. thief related stories, including his time with the guilds or after he was exiled until he joined the x-men. That if you don't want to break the status quo and make him again the KoT, which would probably keep him away from the team. That would be my ideal, but I know it's not happening.
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Re: Gambit 2025
« Reply #200 on: March 23, 2025, 03:17:24 PM »
https://tombrevoort.substack.com/p/156-make-new-mistakes

"But the beat goes on in the world of X, and so also dropping this week is UNCANNY X-MEN #12, our long-awaited spotlight on Gambit. Gail Simone collaborated with Cajun artist Gavin Guidry on this one for extra accuracy, and it also introduces a nefarious figure from Remy’s past, the Vig."

I didn't realize the artist is Cajun. I'm going to reserve judgement on this being a total s***-show until I actually read the whole thing. I'm not getting my hopes up, though.

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Re: Gambit 2025
« Reply #201 on: March 23, 2025, 04:33:18 PM »
The one being Cajun should be the writer, imo.

The artist is fine. He has a Gambit sketch up for sale on his website that's quite pretty.
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Re: Gambit 2025
« Reply #202 on: March 24, 2025, 12:18:39 PM »
UXM12 & 14 variant cover



Looks amazing, except for the female faces, heh.


I mean, recreating Jim Lee, 90% of the work is already done
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Re: Gambit 2025
« Reply #203 on: March 25, 2025, 08:37:26 PM »

They're also in bed and semi naked in the spoilers. I'm not posting it because I just ate.

And yes, it's all about HER.

ETA: I just noticed... she's not wearing pants there.

Read X-hibitionists - Monthly from Marvel.

(I know, I know, don't give them ideas.)
You did, you gave them the idea.
She's always parading half naked in a house that's not even theirs and that's full of kids.

GO HOME. Go to your own place instead of leeching off this poor guy whose little girl you probably keep flashing all the time!
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Re: Gambit 2025
« Reply #204 on: March 26, 2025, 02:19:05 AM »
Uncanny X-Men 12 is a delightful story full of heart. Loved it!

Glad to see Remy happy.

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Re: Gambit 2025
« Reply #205 on: March 26, 2025, 08:38:07 AM »
And yes, it's all about HER.


You haven't even read it yet. The few panels I saw don't give much hope, but I'll only complain after I read the whole thing. I also hate like all they do is look horny and talk about sex as if there's nothing more to thir relationship.

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Re: Gambit 2025
« Reply #206 on: March 26, 2025, 09:13:05 AM »
Also Ultimate Gambit appears in Ultimate Wolverine #3 today. I didn`t read it but Sparta and most fans told that he is cool and survived issue.

Also it seems he is a couple with Ultimate Kitty as they kiss.

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Re: Gambit 2025
« Reply #207 on: March 26, 2025, 02:03:57 PM »

You haven't even read it yet. The few panels I saw don't give much hope, but I'll only complain after I read the whole thing. I also hate like all they do is look horny and talk about sex as if there's nothing more to thir relationship.
I enjoyed it more than the Harley new comic.

I don't hate it, as it's not bad (just gave it a quick look,.I'm working), but Simone just doesn't have ideas for Gambit to make him look like the badass he is. She needed a excuse for the team to be there because the one important is Marcus' daughter. This is one of those things when things happen because the plot demand it, rather than natural occurrences. The plot ain't bad either but it's just there. It's sad because it was promising,.imo. my favorite team is in UXM, but I'm connecting more with Cyclops' team now despite it has people I actually dislike.

Gonna read Ultimate later, because I like capable Gambit which it's always a plus.

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Re: Gambit 2025
« Reply #208 on: March 26, 2025, 03:16:16 PM »
X-Men related, Kelsey G and P Stewart are back for Doomsday.


Also McKellen. Thread moves fast.
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Re: Gambit 2025
« Reply #209 on: March 26, 2025, 03:53:36 PM »
Are these current Ultimate titles connected to the early 2000's line of Ultimate comics? If they are, how did they go about resurrecting Gambit?
And why are Gambit and Kitty in Russia fighting Wolverine?