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Title: Secret Wars
Post by: Nekobaghira on November 16, 2014, 07:23:52 PM
New event: Secret Wars

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=57121

Edit: I added some general info about the event via wiki, since this is a sticky thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Wars_%282015_comic_book%29

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The storyline involves the Marvel Universe combining with various other alternate universes (including the Ultimate Marvel, Age of Apocalypse, and Marvel 2099 universes) into Battleworld, a world that exhibits aspects of the various universes. This results in a new, single universe that will become the status quo for Marvel Comics, similar to how DC Comics restructured its universe in storylines such as Crisis on Infinite Earths.

The core limited series will be eight issues long, likely running for five months. The mini series are in three categories, which are Battleworld, Warzones, and Last Days. One of the core miniseries is Ultimate End which ends the Ultimate Marvel imprint after 15 years. Ultimate End is written by Brian Michael Bendis and artist Mark Bagley, the team that began the Ultimate Marvel universe with Ultimate Spider-Man.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Dantay on November 16, 2014, 08:17:33 PM
video in link
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=57121
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: DonPriceTag on November 17, 2014, 08:31:05 AM
 ???.... Ah, %#@%.

This really is just a big excuse for them to handpick characters status ques from past media and timelines and shoe horn them together. Not to mention they might be eating Malibu comics... This may be the only interesting part. Do this. Fresh meet.

Just reboot the universe and bypass all this foolishness Marvel... Who comes up with this crap?
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Nekobaghira on March 18, 2015, 03:40:37 PM
Updating this thread, going to sticky it too, since its the big event next.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/gabriel-clarifies-secret-wars-effect-on-marvels-publishing-line

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David also provided the site with the following list of series which will come to a conclusion as a result of the "Secret Wars" event, with the caveat that some may return in the future in some form or another.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Nekobaghira on March 18, 2015, 04:30:35 PM
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/nicieza-sandoval-bring-age-of-apocalypse-to-secret-wars

Nicieza is working on Secret Wars
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: purplevit on March 18, 2015, 05:40:25 PM
Fabian - Great News :D

Magneto and Rogue in one book :-[
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Askia32 on March 18, 2015, 06:08:03 PM
Woops, posted this in another thread, and late.  Sorry, I wish I saw it was already posted.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Nekobaghira on March 18, 2015, 06:15:18 PM
Woops, posted this in another thread, and late.  Sorry, I wish I saw it was already posted.

LOL - all I good, I do that too.  :)  And I'll fix it or merge or just let it go.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Spoonz on March 18, 2015, 06:49:09 PM
Didn't they put the AoA universe to bed already?  I thought it was destroyed.  And also half of those characters have died like, twice already.  Just let it go, Marvel!
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: cc008 on March 18, 2015, 06:53:50 PM
Didn't they put the AoA universe to bed already?  I thought it was destroyed.  And also half of those characters have died like, twice already.  Just let it go, Marvel!

I'm more excited for that series than any other one in secret wars.  Like FabNic said, it happens in a separate reality than the original AoA BECAUSE the last AoA was literally destroyed. I loved the series that spun out of X-Force and I'm glad they're going back to it for this. How could they not with all the other events they're revisiting?
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: remydat on March 18, 2015, 07:53:17 PM
There should be any number of universes where Apocalypse rose to power as there are alternate universes out there where Xavier was hit by a bus or died via some other method than Legion.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: DonPriceTag on March 18, 2015, 08:32:48 PM
I love AoA but that cover just reminded me its what inspired Roguneto... I wonder who they'll be keeping from this reality? I'm going on the assumption that they are going make a new universe out of thus giant pool of characters. What an undertaking, while it sound unnecessary, it sure does look like a fun job... I bet there's a lot of arguing.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Dantay on March 19, 2015, 05:16:08 AM
Fab is Back  ;D noice
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: DonPriceTag on March 19, 2015, 08:51:24 AM
Marvel to cancel 33 books for Secret Wars

https://youtu.be/7tSFx1_zLMU
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: purplevit on March 19, 2015, 09:38:10 AM
Marvel to cancel 33 books for Secret Wars

https://youtu.be/7tSFx1_zLMU

Wait. Why Magneto is not cancelled?
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: DonPriceTag on March 19, 2015, 10:16:49 AM
Pretty sure it is... Or will be.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Nekobaghira on March 19, 2015, 10:50:34 AM
RE: Magneto - if its sales keeps dropping it will be cancelled. 

There were several titles not mentioned.

Moon Knight
Squirrel Girl - c'mon really? This book will be around?
Ms. Marvel - not sure why it wasn't mention, but Capt. Marvel was. 

Looks like a reboot to me.  Guess, we'll see.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: DonPriceTag on March 19, 2015, 11:18:45 PM
RE: Magneto - if its sales keeps dropping it will be cancelled. 

There were several titles not mentioned.

Moon Knight
Squirrel Girl - c'mon really? This book will be around?
Ms. Marvel - not sure why it wasn't mention, but Capt. Marvel was. 

Looks like a reboot to me.  Guess, we'll see.

Remember, they said it wasn't a reboot. They are just destroying the current 616 universe and rebuilding it from the ground up with hand picked pieces of other concepts. Totally not a reboot. ;)
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: purplevit on March 20, 2015, 04:19:25 PM
LUCA PIZZARI'S EXCLUSIVE SECRET WARS SKETCHBOOK EXPLODES

http://marvel.com/news/comics/24301/luca_pizzaris_exclusive_secret_wars_sketchbook_explodes


Some kind of Egyptian X-men in SECRET WARS JOURNAL.

There is a sketch of Gambit that merged with Sinister.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Dantay on March 20, 2015, 04:35:52 PM
LUCA PIZZARI'S EXCLUSIVE SECRET WARS SKETCHBOOK EXPLODES

http://marvel.com/news/comics/24301/luca_pizzaris_exclusive_secret_wars_sketchbook_explodes


Some kind of Egyptian X-men in SECRET WARS JOURNAL.

There is a sketch of Gambit that merged with Sinister.

god damn that is awesome, is this a definite
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Nekobaghira on March 20, 2015, 05:50:55 PM
Looks good.  How interesting it could be.  Adds to the Secret Wars.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: purplevit on May 02, 2015, 07:46:19 AM
http://www.comicbookresources.com/comic-previews/secret-wars-journal-1-marvel-comics-2015

http://www.comicbookresources.com/comic-previews/secret-wars-journal-1-marvel-comics-2015

Gambit with cards and sinister sign is sitting at the table in page 3
Title: Secret Wars #0
Post by: Nekobaghira on May 02, 2015, 05:11:31 PM
Secret Wars #0
Hickman
Renaud

Valeria Richards - is doing a briefing with other kids.  Had no idea there were so many young genius' in the MU.

They're building a ship (a life raft) so that the human race can be restarted.  Not sure who gets to ride the thing, only that is a limited number of seats.

The Cabal is a group of baddies lead by Thanos.  And those who were friends are now foes.

A handpicked group of engineers, builders and scientists are picked for the raft.  We don't know who they are yet.

Two different Earths from different universes are going to collide.  And it appears MU from both Earths are trying to do something about it or  going to fight.  

I guess to get to the raft or stop the collision its not really stated.  It ends with everyone getting into position to fight.


That's the start.  Not sure how much I will follow it, but the book was free today as part of free comic book day.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: purplevit on May 02, 2015, 05:55:34 PM
Was Namor there? Is he alive?
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Nekobaghira on May 02, 2015, 08:04:32 PM
Was Namor there? Is he alive?

Yes, he is alive.  He had some device for destroying worlds but Reed stopped the think tank (group of guys deciding that) on that plan of action.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Dantay on May 02, 2015, 09:45:04 PM
Yes, he is alive.  He had some device for destroying worlds but Reed stopped the think tank (group of guys deciding that) on that plan of action.

Hope he kicks Panters ass
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: purplevit on May 03, 2015, 06:34:04 AM
Hope he kicks Panters ass

Me too!
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Nekobaghira on May 11, 2015, 05:21:52 PM
Reboot ... relaunch ....?  LOL

http://www.newsarama.com/24463-is-marvel-rebooting-its-comics-after-secret-wars-one-marvel-exclusive-writer-says-so.html

Well, at least Ms. Marvel gets a relaunch with the same writer.  

Another story via CBR .... Info on Battleworld
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/gillen-lays-siege-to-secret-wars-battleworld
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: purplevit on May 13, 2015, 09:05:19 AM
Who knows when Modok #1 arrives? Gambit will be in this and I hope not as huge head with little legs
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Nekobaghira on May 13, 2015, 09:26:24 AM
Marvel's calendar says May 27th for M.O.D.O.K. Assassin #1
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: purplevit on May 13, 2015, 10:31:56 AM
Marvel's calendar says May 27th for M.O.D.O.K. Assassin #1

Thanks! Not excited about this book but I hope he will get a good appearence.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Nekobaghira on May 13, 2015, 10:44:14 AM
Thanks! Not excited about this book but I hope he will get a good appearance.

I hope so too.  And I don't want it to be a waste of money. 
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Dantay on May 13, 2015, 12:27:18 PM
Who knows when Modok #1 arrives? Gambit will be in this and I hope not as huge head with little legs


he has a cameo which also means he could be dieing in it  :-\
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: purplevit on May 13, 2015, 04:59:10 PM
he has a cameo which also means he could be dieing in it  :-\

Unfortunately dieing is not the worst thing that can happen to him.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: cc008 on May 13, 2015, 05:59:51 PM
616 Deadpool and Wolverine are already dead.. it's only fitting 616 Gambit joins them in "Starring In FOX X-Films But Currently Dead in the Comics Land"
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Nekobaghira on May 13, 2015, 06:06:54 PM
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/in-your-face-jam-did-secret-wars-just-win-me-over

Brett White's take on Secret Wars. 

Cool image with Sinister.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: cc008 on May 13, 2015, 06:20:15 PM
Sinister in this is now an automatic buy.  I guess I'm reading SW now.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Dantay on May 13, 2015, 07:54:25 PM
Sinister in this is now an automatic buy.  I guess I'm reading SW now.  :laugh:

dont bother its not worth your money, He has a trial by combat style thing infront of God (Dr. Doom) against one of the Captain Britain's, Brian i think?  the blonde one, he gets beheaded but gets back up and kicks ass, Doom prevents him from killing Brian???...the blonde one and thats it for Sinister
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: cc008 on May 14, 2015, 10:32:44 AM
dont bother its not worth your money, He has a trial by combat style thing infront of God (Dr. Doom) against one of the Captain Britain's, Brian i think?  the blonde one, he gets beheaded but gets back up and kicks ass, Doom prevents him from killing Brian???...the blonde one and thats it for Sinister

Ah, man. Bummer. Ok thanks.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: DonPriceTag on May 14, 2015, 06:27:16 PM
So now we know what Battleworld is. Doom's private sandbox he created by grenading Marvel multi-verse... Not sure how I feel about this.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: bigstupidjellyfish on May 14, 2015, 10:09:33 PM
Dr. Doom is the best villain and Hickman knows it. He's also been setting it up since at least his F4/FF run.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: DonPriceTag on May 14, 2015, 11:23:42 PM
Dr. Doom is the best villain and Hickman knows it. He's also been setting it up since at least his F4/FF run.

Don't get me wrong, Secret Wars #2 was as good as it was confusing. Its more mysterious than befuddling.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Nekobaghira on May 15, 2015, 10:57:49 AM
Secret Wars Ultimate End #1

http://www.comicbookresources.com/comic-previews/ultimate-end-1-marvel-comics-2015-2015

Note that Bendis is on the Skottie Young cover.  LOL
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Toadman005 on May 15, 2015, 12:24:18 PM
That cover represents everything wrong with comics these days.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Nekobaghira on May 15, 2015, 01:05:18 PM
TBH I thought the cover was egotistical. Or maybe its some joke I don't get.  LOL
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: cc008 on May 15, 2015, 02:50:38 PM
I think it's a cool cover.. I just have developed a pretty strong distaste for Bendis and how he thinks he's above everything.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Toadman005 on May 15, 2015, 04:04:28 PM
TBH I thought the cover was egotistical. Or maybe its some joke I don't get.  LOL

no, you nailed it. Him AS HIMSELF, on a cover, arrogantly smirking like he's a demigod genius, "dropping the mic", ugh.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Nekobaghira on May 16, 2015, 07:32:31 PM
Some news about SW and Battleworld.  Not allot just what will be around after the event:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/when-secret-wars-ends-not-everything-from-battleworld-will-go-with-it
Title: Post Secret Wars - 8 months Later the New MU
Post by: Nekobaghira on May 18, 2015, 01:06:36 PM
8 months later ....

http://www.newsarama.com/24543-marvel-talks-about-post-secret-wars-marvel-new-mu.html

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Marvel has finally elaborated on an announcement they made to a room full of comic book retailers at C2E2 last month - that the publisher will be jumping ahead 8 months in story time after Secret Wars, similar to the recent "Time Runs Out" or DC's "One Year Later" storylines.

“In the same way that events jumped forward in time eight months in Avengers and New Avengers during the lead-up to Secret Wars, so too when we enter the new Marvel Universe eight months will have passed for all of the characters as well,” Senior Vice President of Publishing Tom Brevoort explained. “This provides our creators, even apart from Secret Wars, to drop into exciting new situations and status quos on the fly. So look for surprises and mysteries and changes galore as series resume in the NEW MU.”

"New MU" seems to be the official designation for the post-Secret Wars landscape of Marvel's main comic book continuity.

Marvel also confirmed that Secret Wars series A-Force and Weirdworld would continue after the event's end, and confirmed that both Maestro of Future Imperfect and the creature team in Mrs. Deadpool & The Howling Commandos would as well. The titles previewed on Free Comic Book Day - All-New, All-Different Avengers and Uncanny Inhumans take place in NEW MU as well.

Brevoort went on to say that every one of the Secret Wars tie-in series would contribute something forward after Secret Wars ends.

“As we’ve been saying, the building blocks of the NEW MU are being established throughout the various Secret Wars titles, with every series contributing something to the NEW MU," Brevoort says. "Whether that something is a character, a place, an environment, an object, a status quo, or any other thing that you might think of."

Translation - like most recent Marvel events, the publisher is billing Secret Wars as the current 'big thing' but also as the precursor/lead-in to the next 'bigger thing' - New MU.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Nekobaghira on June 05, 2015, 11:45:54 AM
Secret Wars Journal #2  out on Wed 6/10

http://www.comicbookresources.com/comic-previews/secret-wars-journal-2-marvel-comics-2015

Those of you who love Sinister, this might be worth picking up.  :)
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: purplevit on June 05, 2015, 12:13:55 PM
Secret Wars Journal #2  out on Wed 6/10

http://www.comicbookresources.com/comic-previews/secret-wars-journal-2-marvel-comics-2015

Those of you who love Sinister, this might be worth picking up.  :)

Sinister and Spurrier sounds good to me :)
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: purplevit on June 10, 2015, 05:14:24 PM
I really liked this Daredevil/Sinister short story by Spurrier.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Dantay on June 10, 2015, 05:41:44 PM
I really liked this Daredevil/Sinister short story by Spurrier.

the art wasnt great, but the story was in the end twisted, good read
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Nekobaghira on July 08, 2015, 11:41:24 AM
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/secret-wars-star-wars-continue-to-lead-marvel-to-top-of-sales-charts-in-june-2015

Sales charts for June - and how well Secret Wars is performing.  Star Wars doing well is no surprise to me.

Xmen '92 did fairly well too.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: purplevit on July 08, 2015, 03:04:08 PM
I relly liked AOA #1. Fabian was really good. There were no rogneto in it and I really hope I won`t see it in futere issues too.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: DonPriceTag on July 08, 2015, 03:45:47 PM
I was thinking about DLing AoA and Civil War... Then saw they both cost $5 each. Can't say the amount adds up to enjoyment. Not buying but I see Gambit is back in X92... I giggle every time he talks in the third. I'll wait for the main SW title.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: purplevit on July 11, 2015, 06:34:48 PM
A fan asked why some characters, like Storm and Wolverine, get the spotlight over others, like Rogue and Gambit. "It's all about who's writing the books," said Alonso. "There's a lot of love for Rogue and she's in a team book ['Uncanny Avengers'] and there's been a lot of love for Jubilee. She's popped up recently... The great thing about all them is that they could all anchor a solo series, like Cullen's 'Magneto.' Meet the writer who gets the character and we'll do it."

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/sdcc-inhumans-mutants-collide-in-all-new-all-different-marvel

Asked about Gambit and gave answer about Jubs? LOL
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Nekobaghira on July 11, 2015, 07:59:02 PM
I noticed that - Gambit was ignored in the answer.  He is right about one thing which we've always known.  It's who is writing the books.

IMO - there are not too many in if any at the moment who give a crap about Gambit or want to write him.  
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: DonPriceTag on July 11, 2015, 10:21:05 PM
A fan asked why some characters, like Storm and Wolverine, get the spotlight over others, like Rogue and Gambit. "It's all about who's writing the books," said Alonso. "There's a lot of love for Rogue and she's in a team book ['Uncanny Avengers'] and there's been a lot of love for Jubilee. She's popped up recently... The great thing about all them is that they could all anchor a solo series, like Cullen's 'Magneto.' Meet the writer who gets the character and we'll do it."

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/sdcc-inhumans-mutants-collide-in-all-new-all-different-marvel

Asked about Gambit and gave answer about Jubs? LOL

That was funny. And expected. I firmly believe Gambit is considered a "no fly zone". And the only reason we've seen this much so far is because his roles were already written into books. Since they were minor and have no real influence on how most will view him they were allowed to remain. Just a theory that makes sense in my head.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: AeroSennin on July 19, 2015, 02:17:14 AM
Why is Gambit such a no go Zone?. .  Is it so they can establish Rogue as a go to Gal with out him attached to her at the hip?
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: remydat on July 19, 2015, 11:02:36 AM
Don is suggesting it's because Gambit is going to appear in a Fox film so Fox wants to downplay the character.

Although Alonso's answer is what I have been saying for years.  It's about the writers.  Not a lot of them want to write him.  The reality is if you Mike Carey brought him back because he wanted the character after he disappeared after BoA.  When Carey did nothing with the character, Liu wrote him mainly because she loved him from X-TAS.  Then he got a solo mainly because of the editor pitching the idea to Asmus who really wanted to do the project.  Not so sure about Peter David.

Point is unless you are Cyclops or Wolverine, whether you appear in a book or not is basically down to the writer.  Although I think the next several months will tell if Don is on to something but I think it is too early right now because the fact is Gambit has been suffering from not a lot of writers liking or understanding the character long before the film was announced.  Deadpool also has a movie and after the initial concern he was going to get blackballed by Marvel, he has like multiple books post Secret Wars. 
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: DonPriceTag on July 19, 2015, 11:48:35 AM
Why is Gambit such a no go Zone?. .  Is it so they can establish Rogue as a go to Gal with out him attached to her at the hip?

Its a long story, thats come to this. Gambit's popularity peaked in the 90s, which made him a top 5 or even 3 X-Man. He was even leading for a small time. Even after he peaked, he was still very popular. His appeal lasted after a couple of overzealous writers/editors tried to kill him off permanently. His use began to dwindle after the first X-Men movie. He was included in it. Marvel, not having their own studio at the time and not owned by Disney, decided to heavily feature the movie characters; Cyclops, Jean, Storm, Rogue, Colossus (even tried to pair the latter two at one point). Costumes and appearances were tweaked to mirror the movies. Those like Psylocke, Cable and yes, Gambit got put on the back burner. What didnt help was the fact that the next couple of writers werent Gambit fans, or just didnt have plans to use him. Some claim they didnt find him interesting, others were just so disgusted with the 90s, most characters that were created during the time werent given a fair shake. Psylocke, though an 80's character was most popular in the 90s, she was resurrected and brought back into the lime light due to being included in Remender's Uncanny X-Force. From that point she was almost an edict to be everywhere X-Men related. Cable stayed out of limbo due to being paired with Deadpool, however he fell into that pit eventually. Gambit became a carry-on bag for Rogue all the way up to Blood of Apocalypse. Once that train wreck was done, he was exiled into Limbo until he popped back up in Messiah Complex.

He stumbled around the X-books for a while, then got a solo and rejuvenation project to being him back up to speed. A couple writers requested to use Gambit and his new status qou but were blocked by Carey because he wanted use him to boost sales on his books, I assume (putting him on covers of books he had nothing to do with, pushing the idea of triangle between him, Rogue and Magneto), though he did use him AoX fairly well. So he went utilized for another year or so until his solo ended. He was then moved to be X-Factor as the lead character. That was short lived as it became somewhat obvious that the book was shifting gears and focusing more on Quicksilver. Most attribute this to Marvel's sudden need to push the X-Men line to the side to focus more on Avengers characters, ie, the ones they exclusively control. The book got cancelled and the creative team moved to a Spiderman book that basically sprang out of X-Factor. With no where to go Gambit has been seen in a handful of Secret Wars books, mostly dying. Many also attribute this to the fact that his solo movie had started to build momentum. No expects Marvel to give shine to a character with a movie on the horizon. Though Deadpool is getting a new book and team roster spot (he was killed off around the same time they announced his movie). But Deadpool sells books. I never thought they'd kill him for long. But for that redeeming move by Marvel, they also killed off theyre biggest bread winner in the X-Men, Wolverine (pretty close to Days of Future Past, and before X-Men Apocalypse or his next solo movie), only to bring him back incredibly changed. The codename "Wolverine" belongs to a woman now and  Logan is extremely old, hence they call him "Old Man Logan".

So to summarize Gambit is a not go because;
X-Men are seemingly being marginalized as a whole (theory)
Marvel doesnt help promote Fox movie properties (theory)
Current X-Men Writers arent interested in using him/ Marvel wont allow the writers that do want to use him, use him
Past X-Men writers ignored him for so long, younger readers barely understand him
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: red joseph on July 19, 2015, 11:58:23 AM
Although Alonso's answer is what I have been saying for years.  It's about the writers.  Not a lot of them want to write him.  

Eh I've got to agree with Don on this one. Two of the three main x-men writers are Gambit fans and have previously expressed their wish to write Gambit, moreso then they have with other X characters. Obviously we don't know either way which is the truth, but I lean towards Gambit being a no go character or he's due to appear in an unannounced book.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Dantay on July 19, 2015, 12:41:18 PM
Why is Gambit such a no go Zone?. .  Is it so they can establish Rogue as a go to Gal with out him attached to her at the hip?

No its not, Rogue and Gambit have been re-established apart, and thanks to Asmus it was shown the two could be written as friends without angst, even if Rogue admitted to loving him, it wasnt a plot point. Rogue has been re-established in Uncanny Avengers sadly not to well, id rather have no mention of Gambit or have him in Limbo than getting the Rogue treatment as of late or since Carey
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Nekobaghira on July 19, 2015, 03:08:19 PM
Why is Gambit such a no go Zone?. .  Is it so they can establish Rogue as a go to Gal with out him attached to her at the hip?

Hi AeroSennin - welcome to the board.   :)

I don't have much to add, others have already stated most of what I think on it.  IMO - Rogue hasn't been a go to Gal in some time.  Remender has not done anything with her character other than give her a power up grade and regressed her base power.  She has Wonder Man's powers - giving her strength and flight but now she has to worry about her absorbing powers.  

Remender killed her off for a year, in a time travel story, or another planet type story. Which seems to be the only stories he likes to write.

While I think its great that both characters are re-established without each other, which needed to be done a long time ago.  Both characters are unique again and are not defined by each other, neither has really shined in a long time.  Once Carey left (and it can be debated about how he handled Rogue), she hasn't had a whole lot of attention given to her.  

Gambit suffers from the 90's love/hate thing.  He's not the only character with that problem but since we're his fans we notice it more with him.

I still hope for a team book for Gambit or something, but the climate at Marvel seems more different now than it ever has been.  
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: remydat on July 19, 2015, 04:04:12 PM
Eh I've got to agree with Don on this one. Two of the three main x-men writers are Gambit fans and have previously expressed their wish to write Gambit, moreso then they have with other X characters. Obviously we don't know either way which is the truth, but I lean towards Gambit being a no go character or he's due to appear in an unannounced book.

Which writers are you referring to and when did they say what they said?
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: DonPriceTag on July 19, 2015, 05:10:58 PM
Which writers are you referring to and when did they say what they said?

Well I believe Hopless was one. He wanted him for Cable and X-Force. He was denied because of Carey had claimed him for Legacy much like Remender claimed Rogue for UA. Something about it may interfere with what he had planned... Those plans never came fruition... I don't think so anyway because all he did with him was put him on the cover of two issues along side Rogue and Magneto... But perhaps he had no hand in that. To be fair, he isnt the artist.

Holpess even want to do a crossover with Asmus, but time didn't permit... All the while Wolverine was in 3 X-Men books, his solo and an Avenger book. About the same with Captain America LOL. Oh bias Marvel. You kill me.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: red joseph on July 19, 2015, 05:33:42 PM
...and the other one was Cullen Bunn. I can't remember the specific quote but he's been mentioned as a fave character of his for a while.

A quick google got this result: http://www.thenewestrant.com/2013/01/interview-time-cullen-bunn.html

So that's two thirds of the main x-books. 
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Nekobaghira on July 19, 2015, 06:26:04 PM
Gillen wanted to write Gambit as well, can't recall the book he was on at the time.  He said he didn't fight hard enough for him. 

Hopeless gets his shot with Star-Lord & Kitty Pryde book.

I think Bunn would have an interesting take - certainly might be darker. 
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: remydat on July 19, 2015, 06:36:58 PM
I remember the Hopeless stuff but he wanted him for Cable and X-force as far as I recall because it fit his plot/team.  Same with Gillen on UXM where Sinister was featured.  And as Neko pointed out, Hopeless has him in the Starlord book and for all we know it's because he fit that book better than a main book.

The Bunn stuff is the first I heard so I will grant you that but I seriously doubt that if a character is not being used by anyone and a writer really wants him that Marvel is going to say no.  There are a ton of Wolverine and Deadpool books post secret wars. 
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: DonPriceTag on July 19, 2015, 09:02:52 PM

The Bunn stuff is the first I heard so I will grant you that but I seriously doubt that if a character is not being used by anyone and a writer really wants him that Marvel is going to say no.  There are a ton of Wolverine and Deadpool books post secret wars.  

We don't know the inner workings of Marvel these days. These are the same guys that denied Asmus access to several characters (inside and outside of the X-Men) and even barred him from writing most of his storylines. These are fictional characters... They don't have agents, contracts or need to sleep. I can't fathom why you'd be denied access to anyone in the catalogue unless they are dead or about to undergo some sort of groundbreaking change. Carey stopped Gillen (maybe it was more Gage/editor at the time, but he didnt strike me as the forceful type...) and Hopeless from using Gambit, even though he BARELY used him, himself. Remender stopped the entire MU from using Rogue, though she did die momentarily.

As for the Wolverine and Deadpool stuff... Money talks. They sell too much to stay on the shelf.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Dantay on July 20, 2015, 03:34:42 AM
Deadpool has one book that sol ok the others got canceled, he's not as profitable as Marvel would hope but he has his fans high up
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: AeroSennin on July 20, 2015, 03:43:40 AM
As a thought on the secret wars.  Do you think it would have been an interesting twist to have a Gambit where in the ensuing chaos he takes full control of the guilds and goes black ops strike team in battleworld .  No need for him to be as restrained with the big bads out there and pretty much it being dog eat dog.  They could have made epic use of the asmus power up to play hit and run fights and pitched battles.  A chance to have him grow up and be a leader even if he doesn't like it.  I can't imagine him being passive in something this big.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: remydat on July 20, 2015, 02:12:39 PM
We don't know the inner workings of Marvel these days. These are the same guys that denied Asmus access to several characters (inside and outside of the X-Men) and even barred him from writing most of his storylines. These are fictional characters... They don't have agents, contracts or need to sleep. I can't fathom why you'd be denied access to anyone in the catalogue unless they are dead or about to undergo some sort of groundbreaking change. Carey stopped Gillen (maybe it was more Gage/editor at the time, but he didnt strike me as the forceful type...) and Hopeless from using Gambit, even though he BARELY used him, himself. Remender stopped the entire MU from using Rogue, though she did die momentarily.

As for the Wolverine and Deadpool stuff... Money talks. They sell too much to stay on the shelf.

Well that's right, we don't know the inner workings at Marvel so we are both just speculating.

Asmus was denied characters that other writers had plans for as far as I am aware not because of some Agenda against Gambit as if that were the case then they wouldn't have made the solo in the first case.  The dude had been completely marginalized and was the last person anyone suspected was going to get a solo which is why it was a shock to most of us when it happened.

I am not saying you aren't correct, I am saying it is too early to read into this any more than what it has been for years now which is that writers and editors don't really like Gambit all that much.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: DonPriceTag on July 20, 2015, 05:07:52 PM
Not saying Marvel has/had an agenda out exclusively for Gambit. At least not more than they do for the entire X-Men line. I never thought they'd "cancel" the X-Men. They make up more than half their comic book profit line. But I do think they don't want to help Fox out either. I believe they'll eventually make their characters look and behave differently than the takes we see in the movies. The characters they can do without altogether will just have to sit on the sidelines.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Nekobaghira on July 20, 2015, 05:53:41 PM
As a thought on the secret wars.  Do you think it would have been an interesting twist to have a Gambit where in the ensuing chaos he takes full control of the guilds and goes black ops strike team in battleworld .  No need for him to be as restrained with the big bads out there and pretty much it being dog eat dog.  They could have made epic use of the asmus power up to play hit and run fights and pitched battles.  A chance to have him grow up and be a leader even if he doesn't like it.  I can't imagine him being passive in something this big.

That would require those that planned the event to even think of using Gambit.  He's not top of mind, especially with those who planned these events. 

In your scenario, sure it would make sense to have him be a player in the event. 

Would it have been interesting, sure.  Sadly we'll not get too much Gambit in the Secret Wars event. 
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: AeroSennin on July 20, 2015, 06:15:07 PM
I know that but I figured it would have been awesome.  I could totally see him and his guild crew getting lost in the cracks of battleworld between the barriers stuck in walls as such and using them to hop into areas and running early sabotage missions.  I could have totally seen him and his crew running an incursion before the triscellion fell messing with defenses and structures.  Maybe stealing an iron man suit while running amok in the buildings foundations
/secret levels.   And bugging out just before the 616 heroes arrive.  You know almost marvels personal ninja corps.  Just thieves and assassins  doing the hard dirty work setting things up all guts no glory but I don't think his ego is so fragile he needs it.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Nekobaghira on July 20, 2015, 06:52:05 PM
Sounds great! It would be great to have Gambit be hidden and yet do some interesting things.  Like steal the Iron Man suit.  Didn't mean to be a Debbie Downer, sometimes I forget that speculation can be allot of fun.   ;)
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: AeroSennin on July 20, 2015, 09:12:39 PM
I'll take a bit of speculation and fun where it comes.  Esp with marvels attitude to its xmen ip and more specifically gambit. . . .  (poor guy lost it all in legacy. . . . ).  But I can't help seeing the missed opportunity in this. . .  he could be used as the subtle pushes to help 616 teams even those that fail.   If they wanted tension they could have started him with a limited number of men that whittle down to 0 as a final battle looms (drama stress heroics maybe a traitor) and help some of the known survivors make it back to the new verse.  If they want him to die it could be a heroic sacrifice.  . .  or a new way to bring him back in a darker capacity have him make a giant final battle to buy other teams time and have sinister pick up the beaten  gambit.  (Gives option to escape or create as unwilling henchmen. . .  haunt the x-men/ avengers who would have to battle with fighting the dude who saved them) maybe let him escape later to find his own space so many interesting things they could have done. . .  it would also give us closure/certainty on a favourite.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: purplevit on August 05, 2015, 01:39:35 PM
AOA #2 was good. Not as good as #1 but I liked it.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Nekobaghira on August 06, 2015, 12:25:56 AM
Who is the kid in the image?
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: purplevit on August 06, 2015, 12:57:01 AM
Who is the kid in the image?
Cypher. He is a POV character in this.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: purplevit on August 09, 2015, 04:34:17 PM
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/axel-in-charge-the-question-of-a-bisexual-hercules-looking-inside-invincible-iron-man-2015

Alonso: The big X-Men relaunch kicks off in October with "Extraordinary X-Men" #1 and #2 by Jeff Lemire and Humberto Ramos. It's followed in November by Dennis Hopeless and Mark Bagley's "All-New X-Men" and Tom Taylor and David Lopez's "All-New Wolverine." December will bring Cullen Bunn and Greg Land's "Uncanny X-Men," and then we'll get Jeff Lemire and Andrea Sorrentino's "Old Man Logan" in January.

It means Gambit in limbo at least until 2016? >:(
2015 year was really bad for Gambit comics
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: DonPriceTag on August 09, 2015, 04:55:15 PM
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/axel-in-charge-the-question-of-a-bisexual-hercules-looking-inside-invincible-iron-man-2015

Alonso: The big X-Men relaunch kicks off in October with "Extraordinary X-Men" #1 and #2 by Jeff Lemire and Humberto Ramos. It's followed in November by Dennis Hopeless and Mark Bagley's "All-New X-Men" and Tom Taylor and David Lopez's "All-New Wolverine." December will bring Cullen Bunn and Greg Land's "Uncanny X-Men," and then we'll get Jeff Lemire and Andrea Sorrentino's "Old Man Logan" in January.

It means Gambit in limbo at least until 2016? >:(
2015 year was really bad for Gambit comics

Not necessarily. The missing mutants are said to return or pop up as part of an upcoming arc... but I would think something of that caliber would be talked about if it was happening in the first arcs. So, yeah. You might be right... sucks.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: winterwolfen on August 09, 2015, 04:57:54 PM
Maybe gambit had a bad comic year, but if the movie turns out great next year, I don't think marvel will be ignoring it and maybe start to lunch new titles.
Heck, just look up gambit busts/statues on eBay, the prices just keeps getting better, while no one likes rogue, LOL.

Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: purplevit on August 09, 2015, 05:10:31 PM
Maybe gambit had a bad comic year, but if the movie turns out great next year, I don't think marvel will be ignoring it and maybe start to lunch new titles.
Heck, just look up gambit busts/statues on eBay, the prices just keeps getting better, while no one likes rogue, LOL.



Rogue Cut was terrible. I liked original DOFP much more. I hope Rogue would be recasted when Gambit will join X team movies.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: DonPriceTag on August 09, 2015, 08:37:16 PM
Maybe gambit had a bad comic year, but if the movie turns out great next year, I don't think marvel will be ignoring it and maybe start to lunch new titles.
Heck, just look up gambit busts/statues on eBay, the prices just keeps getting better, while no one likes rogue, LOL.



That's funny... Because Marvel has done nearly the exact opposite. I guess it boils down to what Marvel/Disney believes is more important; capitalizing on Gambit's popularity due to a hit film and use it to sell more books or bury the brand to not further Gambit's influence, by that sacrifice some possible revenue.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Dantay on August 10, 2015, 02:31:44 AM
Maybe gambit had a bad comic year, but if the movie turns out great next year, I don't think marvel will be ignoring it and maybe start to lunch new titles.
Heck, just look up gambit busts/statues on eBay, the prices just keeps getting better, while no one likes rogue, LOL.



Fantastic 4 dude the film didn't prevent the title from getting canceled don't hold your breath on Marvel capitalizing on Gambits movie or promoting him, unless its Marvel owned movie property they don't care
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: purplevit on August 10, 2015, 04:46:25 PM
Nicieza will write Deadpool & Cable: Split Second mini

http://www.polygon.com/comics/2015/8/10/9126523/the-creators-of-cable-deadpool-will-team-up-again-for-deadpool-cable

First book that I would like to try after SW relaunch.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: DonPriceTag on August 11, 2015, 08:36:16 AM
Marvel loves them some Deadpool. Avenger, Cable and Deadpool and Deadpool along with his SW mini series. Marvel really is a mysterious thing.
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: purplevit on August 21, 2015, 05:45:32 PM
AXEL-IN-CHARGE: Inside "All-New Inhumans," Expanding "Amazing Spider-Man"

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/axel-in-charge-inside-all-new-inhumans-expanding-amazing-spider-man

James Asmus is gonna be co-writing Inhuman book with Charles Soule
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: Dantay on August 21, 2015, 05:58:08 PM
AXEL-IN-CHARGE: Inside "All-New Inhumans," Expanding "Amazing Spider-Man"

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/axel-in-charge-inside-all-new-inhumans-expanding-amazing-spider-man

James Asmus is gonna be co-writing Inhuman book with Charles Soule

hmmmmm nope still not interested, just give him an x-men book already or get him and Mann together to resume Gambit sole
Title: Re: Secret Wars
Post by: purplevit on September 02, 2015, 05:04:44 PM
AOA #3 is really good. Everything is really epic.