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Bourbon Street => Media - TV, Movies, Music, and Games => Movies => Topic started by: Dantay on May 21, 2016, 11:02:27 AM
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i got to see the film the other night and was wondering if any of you want spoilers, i will say this much about the film it does not deserve the negative reviews its getting but it is not that good a movie defiantly not the worse in the X series but far from the best,
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I would say let some time go by .... I don't want spoilers but I'm not rushing out to see the film either. Though it would give me something to do today. LOL
And I'm not surprised by your comments. It has had nothing that for me was appealing while some trailers looked good. Nothing that made me think, oh wow, I gotta go see this. TBH - too much Mystique.
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I would say let some time go by .... I don't want spoilers but I'm not rushing out to see the film either. Though it would give me something to do today. LOL
And I'm not surprised by your comments. It has had nothing that for me was appealing while some trailers looked good. Nothing that made me think, oh wow, I gotta go see this. TBH - too much Mystique.
waaaaay too much of Mystique shes the Wolverine of the First Class franchise even with Wolverine in the films she out Wolverines him
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waaaaay too much of Mystique shes the Wolverine of the First Class franchise even with Wolverine in the films she out Wolverines him
Yeah, she's been a detraction for me. Too much focus on her character.
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I'm actually giving this film a miss! With the quality of superhero movies right now I just can't handle Singer. And the teenage cast just don't do it for me. It was handled okay in first class but this doesn't appeal to me.
And yes, Mystique being the main character bothers me. My dislike of Jennifer Lawrence is a factor too.
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Why does everyone here have it in for JLaw?
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Why does everyone here have it in for JLaw?
Because she's overrated and annoying?
Okay that's a bit harsh. I'll say that I did used to like her. But over time she's started grating on me. Too much of a relatively good thing I guess?
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Because she's overrated and annoying?
Okay that's a bit harsh. I'll say that I did used to like her. But over time she's started grating on me. Too much of a relatively good thing I guess?
If I understood your post correctly, you're saying you think she's overexposed? That definitely can make you resent an actor.
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If I understood your post correctly, you're saying you think she's overexposed? That definitely can make you resent an actor.
Yes, I think she's over exposed as well. Certainly the Hunger Games films didn't help with that, even though they're successful. It's too much JLaw in a shorten time period.
I'm certain I'm in a minority but the Hunger Games is not all that great either.
I also think Fox tried capitalizing on her star power for the film when Mystique was never that pivotal in the Xmen.
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I have seen the movie twice now. Not to spoil it, but the movie was ok.
I suspect that most people find the movie bad because they had too much action scenes in the movie and very little character story/development, also people seems to feed up with JLaw
The Fox version of Poccy is starting to grow on me, they could have done it better, but he's not that bad
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i think the biggest problem for me is that this is just one giant trailer for the next one, theres lots of stuff thats like oh this is going to happen but not in this movie wait for the next one, the young x-men i felt had good development and didn't waste any screen time, the Horsemen were wasted and two of them utterly pointless, lots of acton was good the special effects were not that good same can be said for most comicbook films this year and in previous years, the end credits scene filled me with dread more so than excitement, goddamn corp, you will all know what i mean when you see it
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I also think Fox tried capitalizing on her star power for the film when Mystique was never that pivotal in the Xmen.
That's what I believe as well. I do think it was handled well in DOFP, though.
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Why does everyone here have it in for JLaw?
She can't act.
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Thanks God Gambit wasn't a part of this movie.
It is a garbage movie with some good Quicksilver and Magneto moments.
I liked first 30 minutes but after mansion scene this movie became so dull and bad.
There were nothing special in fights.
I hope Gambit solo will be in future with Deadpool. I don't want more movies with X kids.
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So, I guess I shouldn't go see this in the cinema then?
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I wouldn't say you shouldn't go see it as different people like different things. The purpose of this film was similar to BvS in that it was a vehicle to set up the future just as BvS set up the Justice League. Viewed against that backdrop, I think the movie was fine. The movie wasn't designed to give everyone focus as there were just too many characters in the film but I suspect some of these characters will now be farmed out to different franchises.
Going forward, I suspect some of them to end up in X-men, some of them to end up in New Mutants, and some of them to end up in X-force. So a lot of these guys were just getting extended cameos to introduce them to the movie verse and and the characters that got a little more focus like Jean Grey for example are likely to be the leads in the movies that Singer will continue to head up. The others will probably get fleshed out in other films. I knew Shipp for example has talked about wanting to do New Mutants and I suspect Psylocke and Angel may end up in X-force.
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So, I guess I shouldn't go see this in the cinema then?
I think you should. I am sure you will find something that you will like there.
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So, I guess I shouldn't go see this in the cinema then?
not worth the money but if the film doesnt do well that could mean bad news for the x-movies
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not worth the money but if the film doesnt do well that could mean bad news for the x-movies
Or they'll oust Singer. I mean, nothing against the guy personally or as a director but I think it's time to bring in somebody new. You know? Four films in the series is more than enough, it's showing that he doesn't know what to do with it now. Same characters again etc.
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http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/x-men-director-says-mystique-chould-go-solo-with-or-without-lawrence
I don't get it, Mystique is no big deal to me ... but w/e
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http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/x-men-director-says-mystique-chould-go-solo-with-or-without-lawrence
I don't get it, Mystique is no big deal to me ... but w/e
I'd understand a Jen Lawrence solo... but why would anyone care about a Mystique movie without her? The only reason they'd do it, is to hold onto Jen. I don't think anyone outside of cosplayers look forward to Mystique. Jen Law as her is just smart business. Without its... whaa?
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http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/x-men-director-says-mystique-chould-go-solo-with-or-without-lawrence
I don't get it, Mystique is no big deal to me ... but w/e
Would it shock you to know that the people who are completely against a Gambit film on other forums, think a Mystique film would be awesome?
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Comic book girl 19 did a review of this movie, for like 45 minites. She really hated it :/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aTBlBuIzTY
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Why do they always cast short guys to play Cyclops?
Anyway, I saw this a few weeks ago, and yeah it's a disappointing film, a lot of repetition of previous films, for instance, the Quicksilver scene, William Stryker/Alkali Lake (yet again), Magneto trying to redeem himself (I just don't buy into it) ...and for some reason Mystique is a hero and an inspiration to all mutant kind.
I think the reason why it performed poorly (domestically) in the Box Office was probably because they overestimate certain characters like Professor X, Magneto and Mystique, I understand the relevance of some of these characters (and they're played by fine actors), but I just don't think people will fork out money to see SIX Professor X and Magneto films.
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I didn't see this film in the theater because of JLaw. She is too over exposed to me, and that it was also set in the past was a deterrence but overall not as horrible as I thought.
I finally watched Xmen Apocalypse on demand (I get to watch it more than once and still pay less than a theater ticket).
I think of the that trilogy, it was probably the best, imo. I really liked it. Mystique was alright, while I still think she is too important to the Xmen in this series, it wasn't obnoxious. Loved Mags though - he started over and lost it all again. Man, the guy doesn't get a break.
The guy who played Nightcrawler was awesome. I just loved every moment he was on the screen.
While the Horsemen were not done like the comic books, how it was done was believable more so than the comic books. I really liked Angel's metal wings, very visually appealing.
I liked the Phoenix effect in the end with Jean.
The nods to the older films ... nice tough.
The after credits scene is great! Just plain great. Sinister Corp?! bwahahaha.
Anyway, I enjoyed it overall. Probably the most of any of the films. :)
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I just finally watched X-Men Apocalypse and I don't see the problem a lot of people spoke of. I'm a hard core fan and have plenty of hang ups but I'm adult enough to separate the books story from the movie franchise. The only real issues I had with this was the fact they killed off Apocalypse. He's a villain that could have been uses again and then of course Mystique somehow always being at the center of everything. They let Hollywood contracts and ego get in the way of the story. I rolled my eyes every time she said she was going to fight... She's a shape shifter. What was she planning on doing? Confusing Apocalypse to death?
Was it my favorite X-Men film? No. Was it anywhere near X3 or Origins? Heeeeeell no.
At this point I'll rank my favorite X-Men movies as the following;
DoFP
X2
XMA
XFC
X1
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I hated it. But everything was good untill they blow up school. After that everything became ridiculous for me.
Quicksilver was great but overall action scenes in movie were lame. Beast vs Psylocke fight was too bad(
And the most stupid thing in movie is Magneto. He helped to kill Apocalypse so he is a good guy now? How many had he killed at the end? Millions? They should have killed him.
Apocalypse was lame too. He is so dangerous but can't kill anyone)
From good to bad
DOFP
Deadpool
X2
First Class
X1
Apocalypse
X3
Origins
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You put Origins and X3 over "The Wolverine"?
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I don't know how I would list these movies. I would have to think about it, but DoFP, and First Class were not all that great to me. I guess its how you see things.
DoFP - all it did was do a reset.
I still haven't seen Deadpool yet. Not sure when I'll get to it.
X1 was good, X2 and X3 .... they were okay.
I haven't watched "The Wolverine" all the way through, and I've tried. I get bored 30 minutes in and move on to something else. Origins was okay at best.
XMA - I actually enjoyed. Enough to watch it again. Which I guess is my standard for things. Though don't hold that in high regard, I watch lots of movies over and over .. because TV is just noise for me while I do other things. LOL
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You put Origins and X3 over "The Wolverine"?
Ofcourse not ;D I just forgot about it. "The Wolverine" is 3/5 for me. I would give it 4 if it had better ending. But still I think I enjoyed it a little bit more then First Class or at the same level.
DOFP
Deadpool
X2
The Wolverine
First Class
X1
Apocalypse
X3
Origins
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I don't know how I would list these movies. I would have to think about it, but DoFP, and First Class were not all that great to me. I guess its how you see things.
DoFP - all it did was do a reset.
I still haven't seen Deadpool yet. Not sure when I'll get to it.
X1 was good, X2 and X3 .... they were okay.
I haven't watched "The Wolverine" all the way through, and I've tried. I get bored 30 minutes in and move on to something else. Origins was okay at best.
XMA - I actually enjoyed. Enough to watch it again. Which I guess is my standard for things. Though don't hold that in high regard, I watch lots of movies over and over .. because TV is just noise for me while I do other things. LOL
Wow you lumped X1 and X2 in with X3?! It's like... Like I don't even know you :'(
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Wow you lumped X1 and X2 in with X3?! It's like... Like I don't even know you :'(
Awwww. I base it on how easy it is for me to re-watch them. I can easily re-watch X1. I find both X2 and X3 a bit more difficult to re-watch.
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Hey guys, long time no post...
Neko, I think you would really enjoy Deadpool. It's very different and 100% worth the 90 minutes of your time. But I completely agree with The Wolverine. People can say whatever they want about the acting or actors or source material for that movie.. It just bored me so easily. I actually haven't seen Apocalypse yet. I tend to enjoy all of the movies and I'm able to separate them from the source material. I'm not really too picky when it comes to changing things in the movies as long as it makes sense. But I'm sure I'll enjoy Apocalypse.
I'll try to post more consistently... been tough with my internship, work, grad school, coaching and whatever else. I haven't forgotten about you guys.
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Great to see you cc008 ;)
I agree with you.
Deadpool is really easy to watch and rewatch it.
For me it was like 15 minutes of action, then 15 mibutes of conedy, 15 minutes of romantic scenes plus some erotic and action again.
That is what I liked the most about Deadpool movie. It was a great mix of different things.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2U0PgGtzM8
Honest Trailers - X-Men: Apocalypse
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2U0PgGtzM8
Honest Trailers - X-Men: Apocalypse
LOL I was about to post this! Freaking hilarious. "Congratulations, you played yourself."
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That was hilarious. Gotta agree with some of the comments too. Especially about Mystique being a hero and leading the Xmen when she was a villain a few movies back. LMAO.
"At least we can all agree the third one is always the worst."
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LOL I was about to post this! Freaking hilarious. "Congratulations, you played yourself."
Hah) I liked the most part how Apocalypse was killing peoples in seconds and then never was using his powers again agains X-Men
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Hey guys, long time no post...
Neko, I think you would really enjoy Deadpool. It's very different and 100% worth the 90 minutes of your time. But I completely agree with The Wolverine. People can say whatever they want about the acting or actors or source material for that movie.. It just bored me so easily. I actually haven't seen Apocalypse yet. I tend to enjoy all of the movies and I'm able to separate them from the source material. I'm not really too picky when it comes to changing things in the movies as long as it makes sense. But I'm sure I'll enjoy Apocalypse.
I'll try to post more consistently... been tough with my internship, work, grad school, coaching and whatever else. I haven't forgotten about you guys.
Good to see you post! Deadpool is on my list of movies to watch. I just haven't done so yet but I do plan on it. ;D
I liked the Apocalypse movie. My only thing and it was there before I saw the film was the importance of Mystique and JLaw. But I understand why studio went in the direction they went in and for those reasons its easy to overlook to a degree.
Good luck on all your stuff, you sound incredibly busy!
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I watched Apocalypse... It was good, I enjoyed it. A decent successor to Days of Future Past, but nowhere near as awesome. I'm glad the Xavier/Magneto/Mystique trilogy is over and we can get to more diverse movies now. (Deadpool 2, X-Force, New Mutants, Gambit, future X-Men films)
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^ Agreed. I also would like to see other characters get some attention in the films. It seems we've had a ton of Charles, Erik and Mystique.
Wolverine is in a lot too but not so much in the Days of Future Past trilogy.
X-Force should be fun or so I hope. And I hope Gambit's film gets rolling.
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I'll take any characters at this point besides those 3. They bore me to death.. they always have.
I thought Wolverine was used extremely well in the First Class trilogy though.. cameo in first class, uniting both timelines in DoFP (let's be honest, in the movie-verse, he's the only character that made sense in doing this), and an AMAZING cameo in Apocalypse (I though so anyway). We knew it was coming because of the one tease in a trailer, but still... I loved that cameo.
I'm super curious to see what Deadpool 2 brings and how that is handled. Given the success of the first movie, does it get a bigger budget? Does it introduce Cable and Domino and lead into X-Force? Does Gambit fit in to any of that anywhere?
The one good thing about Deadpool v Gambit in the comics is now they have an established history and Gambit could very well show up with Deadpool on screen at some point. Which would be just delightful.
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I do not like to be a negative one but I think that Wolverine cameo was bad in Apocalypse ;D
He were supposed to be crazy and mad in this cameo. All what I saw was a bad fighting.
I expected Logan to be really mad like animal. Smth crazy like scenes in Mad Max. But for me Apocalypse gave Wolverine only a one more bad fight in movie verse.
I am really excited about last Wolverine R rated movie. Maybe at the end they will finally do him justice.
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I do not like to be a negative one but I think that Wolverine cameo was bad in Apocalypse ;D
He were supposed to be crazy and mad in this cameo. All what I saw was a bad fighting.
I expected Logan to be really mad like animal. Smth crazy like scenes in Mad Max. But for me Apocalypse gave Wolverine only a one more bad fight in movie verse.
I am really excited about last Wolverine R rated movie. Maybe at the end they will finally do him justice.
You were expecting "feral" Logan. When he was in the Weapon-X program, he wasnt feral. He was without conscious but still a trained black-ops agent. He was a madman, but not a wild animal. Its why when he escaped he was able to find himself again. It was brainwashing. Late 90s Wolverine was the "feral beast". I'd love to see that. Running on his hands and feets, overgrown bicuspids, drooling and roaring but still forming words.
But Gambit can fit because there's no definition as of yet. They can bring Gambit in as a young adult around the current X-Men's age, a twenty-something or even fully grown like Xavier, Mystique and Beast. Same with Rogue and I think this will happen sooner rather than later. If they ever plan to capitalize on the "Romy" nostalgia on the big screen, it'll have to be within the next couple iterations. The XTAS fanbase right now ranges from, I'd say 28-45 years of age, right now. Though XMA made money, it's very likely they are feeling pressure as fan response wasn't great and I'm sure that effected Blu-Ray/Digital/DVD sales.
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You were expecting "feral" Logan. When he was in the Weapon-X program, he wasnt feral. He was without conscious but still a trained black-ops agent. He was a madman, but not a wild animal. Its why when he escaped he was able to find himself again. It was brainwashing. Late 90s Wolverine was the "feral beast". I'd love to see that. Running on his hands and feets, overgrown bicuspids, drooling and roaring but still forming words.
But Gambit can fit because there's no definition as of yet. They can bring Gambit in as a young adult around the current X-Men's age, a twenty-something or even fully grown like Xavier, Mystique and Beast. Same with Rogue and I think this will happen sooner rather than later. If they ever plan to capitalize on the "Romy" nostalgia on the big screen, it'll have to be within the next couple iterations. The XTAS fanbase right now ranges from, I'd say 28-45 years of age, right now. Though XMA made money, it's very likely they are feeling pressure as fan response wasn't great and I'm sure that effected Blu-Ray/Digital/DVD sales.
Yep, you understand me right.
Really I hope to see Gambit solo and then next X-Men movie in future. In future with new recasted Rogue. I want them to be in Deadpool timeline.
Not a fan of X kids)
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Agreed. No more of this stuck in the past nonsense. Bring everyone back to the present. Though I'm sure if I agree about the apocalypse movie, because I still haven't seen it yet. :P. It just didn't look that interesting. A new 'bad guy' , but still with round 12 of magneto's man pain...ugh, enough already.
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If I had to guess, I'd say that now that the First Class trilogy has ended, everything from now on will be in the present. That's my hope anyway.
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Agreed. No more of this stuck in the past nonsense. Bring everyone back to the present. Though I'm sure if I agree about the apocalypse movie, because I still haven't seen it yet. :P. It just didn't look that interesting. A new 'bad guy' , but still with round 12 of magneto's man pain...ugh, enough already.
LOL - I had not thought of it that way even though I recognized it. Too much man pain, agreed and they had to use some of the footage from the other films to nail it home. LOL
It was a bit much.
If I had to guess, I'd say that now that the First Class trilogy has ended, everything from now on will be in the present. That's my hope anyway.
Me too. The films don't have to be "dated" as it were. I also hope for the present as well.
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I'm a little concerned because Kinsberg? Said that the next movie would be in the 90's, following the pattern. But hopefully apocalypse 'underperforming' (combined with first class underperforming) convinces them that the general audiences isn't as interested in the period pieces as they are. And maybe they should finally forget about that and moved 'back to the future'.
Heck if they like the new 'students, they can keep them and pretend they've aged a couple decades with nothing more than a haircut (like they've done with all the first class people. ;D
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Yes, the FC trilogy is done, but they have those actors signed on for at least another film. There's no way they got that young talent to sign on for ONE film. They'll have at least one more and have be presented to us ten years older, but IMO the only X-kid that could pull off being in their 20s is Sofie. The rest of them are still short and awkwardly growing into adulthood (the kids: Nightcrawler, Cyclops and Storm). Well maybe Storm actress too. Its easy to make girls look older. I WOULD LOVE A X-MEN MOVIE SET IN THE 90S.
ONE MORE TIME! ONE MORE TIME! ONE MORE TIME!
C'mon guys, chant with me!
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I loved Nightcrawler in Apocalypse. I thought the look was great. I'd love to see that guy play Nightcrawler again. I also liked the choice for Storm.
Jean and Cyke were alright. Cyke sort of reminded me of the guy they had play Reed in Fantastic Four.
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one... more... time? :'(
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ONE MORE TIME! ONE MORE TIME! ONE MORE TIME!
C'mon guys, chant with me!
one... more... time? :'(
One more time?!!!!
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I could be down for 'one more', but only if they break the past pattern of having good characters, only for them to stand around as colorful wall paper, while mags goes though round 13 of epic manpain with Charles as his long suffering battered girlfriend. :P
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvEzdmRpbGM after credits ...funny stuff
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that was hilarious ... loved it.