Is his charming ability and resistance to telepathy still a thing?
Is his charming ability and resistance to telepathy still a thing? Also his second manifestation of Death had him with totally different abilities. Something like turning others into death zombies or something?
Soooo.... Apparently they changed Gambits powers. Something about manipulating "mutant energy" or magical energy... Interesting but hardly has anything to do with Gambits powers. Anyone else think this revelation won't survive outside of this run?All the mutant magic this book was supposed to about was pretty much apocalypse stealing magic to make portals. Now the mutant magic is about combining and channeling ‘mutant energy’, which apparently gambit can do the same way he can kinetic energy. The concept of mutant energy seems dumb and probably won’t last. I guess at least it’s not a power downgrade.
Yeah, Gambit's powers as Death were all over the place and pretty Vague. Not exactly sure what all those abilities even were.
And these:
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Then it was also forgotten.
All of that deathbit coming out to play and doing whatever based on Gambit's emotions was all Mike Carey. Can you believe it?! It was one of the few interesting things he did with the character and then dropped all ideas for Magneto and Rogue to hook up. pfft.
Is his charming ability and resistance to telepathy still a thing? Also his second manifestation of Death had him with totally different abilities. Something like turning others into death zombies or something?
And yet all of the telepaths in the Marvel Universe are 'fine' with their intrusive powers via editorial or whomever is writing the telepath of the month. LOL
I think the charm thing was dropped because it's too #MeToo open for criticism. "GaMbiT's a MANipuLatOr!!!! REE!"
And yet all of the telepaths in the Marvel Universe are 'fine' with their intrusive powers via editorial or whomever is writing the telepath of the month. LOL
I think the charm thing was dropped because it's too #MeToo open for criticism. "GaMbiT's a MANipuLatOr!!!! REE!"
And yet all of the telepaths in the Marvel Universe are 'fine' with their intrusive powers via editorial or whomever is writing the telepath of the month. LOL
writers at the X-office don't seem to know diddly crap about Gambit or his powers/abilities and so they just get left out. See also: Gambit's resistance to telepathy. It's what happens when you hire shoddy writers that don't care about quality or continuity.
I agree with this. But it doesn't explain why Gambit is the only one called a creep and sleazy while popular characters are excused for much worse. You frequently see his TAS scenes and random old comic panels being taken out of context to "prove" Gambit's a creep and to justify writers' lack of interest in him when, in reality, what they're proving is their own incompetence. Editors don't do their jobs, either.
They simply don't like the character. There isn't much more to it than that.
I agree with this. But it doesn't explain why Gambit is the only one called a creep and sleazy while popular characters are excused for much worse. You frequently see his TAS scenes and random old comic panels being taken out of context to "prove" Gambit's a creep and to justify writers' lack of interest in him when, in reality, what they're proving is their own incompetence. Editors don't do their jobs, either.
When I ask "comic fans" what they don't like about Gambit they always refer to something that either didn't happen or some sort of headcanon implanted in their heads from watching the show. Gambit "the lady's man" never really existed in the books. The only glimpses we see of that incarnation are through flashbacks within his solos, so you know they aren't talking about that - cause they don't read his solos.In my experience, 99% of the people who don't like Gambit don't actually know anything about him at all. I actually find it quite funny.
When I ask "comic fans" what they don't like about Gambit they always refer to something that either didn't happen or some sort of headcanon implanted in their heads from watching the show. Gambit "the lady's man" never really existed in the books. The only glimpses we see of that incarnation are through flashbacks within his solos, so you know they aren't talking about that - cause they don't read his solos. Cyclops is 10x the sleaze. Wolverine would have died from some sort of STD years ago if it weren't for his healing factor, and Iceman is almost as "bad", now he's an equal offender having been with at least 3 dudes since coming out only a handful of years ago. Beast and Professor X have more of a dating history than Gambit at this point. But both are perceived as jerks these days, anyway.
In the rarely occasions we see him with some woman on panel, it’s always someone insignificant. He’s never been in a meaningful relationship with a relevant x-woman other than Rogue. There were some huge missed opportunities over the years.
Me too. Especially when Gambit sent Jean a message using what part of his 'charm' allowed him to send cards (and more than one, even if the same card) to her. I think it was a missed opportunity too.
No sense in lamenting what could have been, but I will always mourn the Jean/Remy opportunity that was passed on. Polaris after that...maybe? She seemed a bit mean. Maybe he’d been better off with Danger. They had a vibe. Anyone else an Almost Coulda Been?
As others have said, Gambit isn't a sleaze. He's a flirt, a charming, handsome, charismatic, magnetic guy who COULD have a girl every night, that every woman kinda secretly wishes she could have a one off fling with, he's tall, dark, handsome, charming, but, not a louse. He's had very few confirmed partners, and all of them less problematic than almost any Cyclops or Wolverine have had. Who would his most problematic one be? Candra? I suppose Genevieve? He's a guy who married his high school sweetheart Belladonna, and only left her to prevent a war, had very few confirmed sexual trysts, and then dated Rogue for years. He's a charmer, not a louse.Agreed 100%. He was never a womanizer, he was some serious eye candy for women and they liked what they saw. He always was respectful in my view.
No sense in lamenting what could have been, but I will always mourn the Jean/Remy opportunity that was passed on. Polaris after that...maybe? She seemed a bit mean. Maybe he’d been better off with Danger. They had a vibe. Anyone else an Almost Coulda Been?
Well there was Frenzy. But they had a past. I think it would have been better for them to foster a good friendship. Not much else you could do after the way what's-his-face wrote him freaking out after they kissed.
Cecelia was a fan fab possibly that went nowhere. I think the Polaris-thing is something fans wanted across the board. It was hinted at in at least two runs but ended much like the Frenzy (@&#& you, PAD). Of course there's the Sage-thing that was oddly dangled in front of us.
Cece and Gambit never really had chemistry IMO. They always felt like a clumsy fanfiction couple. A writer just putting his/her two favourite characters together. But that may have just been down to the writing. I've never been a fan of Liu's Gambit or of her comic book writing in general.
Cecelia was a fan fab possibly that went nowhere. I think the Polaris-thing is something fans wanted across the board.
Black Cat could have been a fun friends with benefits. Would have been fun to see him pop up more in Spiderman... Not just his lore randomly being borrowed over there.Now, Black Cat would have been very exciting. They're both thieves with flirty personalities and an affinity for danger. I would actually love to see them interact in the MCU. Maybe she could appear in the Gambit D+ series?
... they were totally incompatible and Gambit was too nice (my only issue with Liu's Gambit).THIS! Liu's Gambit is like a can of soda someone forgot to carbonate.
He actually already climbed Frenzy. Under the 'mighty pen' of Gage, it was confirmed in dialogue that they had more fun in the past and did more than kiss then wrote him freaking out after they shared a drunken kiss. Lame.
Oooh, yeah. I'd have liked to see G climb the tree that is Frenzy.
Sage! That would've been hawt.
And poor Belle, set up to get killed and then they bring her back just to make her into a trope. Insane jealous ex-girlfriend. I was glad to see her in Mr. & Mrs. X as not being a total psycho.
So... in Claremont anniversary special Gambit is possessive by the Shadow King nearly his whole appearance :(There is so much wrong with this. I can't.
And I always wanted Gambit and Polaris to hook up, I don't think she was always meant to be mean though she was cold.
He actually already climbed Frenzy. Under the 'mighty pen' of Gage, it was confirmed in dialogue that they had more fun in the past and did more than kiss then wrote him freaking out after they shared a drunken kiss. Lame.
Aging - I forgot about that. I get it, deal breaker and it would be for me but I still would have wanted that relationship. Her fans were holding on to Havok. Maybe I saw Gambit as the guy to mellow her, instead of the sap we got now kissing Rogue's ass. (I'll always be in the anyone better than Rogue camp. How about dropping her off in Antarctica for a bit. heh heh)
I'm surprised at you! Polaris threw one of his cats into a wall! MEAN!
Also that's a DEAL BREAKER. Sorry, I'm 'shipping Gambit/Danger now. Yup, she has more personality and when he kissed her, didn't get into a snit about it. Was properly grateful.
Maybe Remy is just into mean women. I'm sure the writers intend for them to be "assertive" but I don't think they get it right. I just read "b***hy." Maybe that's internal bias I need to work on.Maybe, he is married to Rogue. LOL There is nothing likable about her for me. She is written to treat him like s*** so ... there you go.
Yeah it was and alluded to in the animated series but never confirmed until the Mighty Pen Gage.
I thought the Frenzy relationship was established much earlier? I seem to recall her throwing at tire at him --- as you do when you run into your ex on the street.
I don't know what people saw in Gambit being with Frenzy (she's not a likable character), Cece (she was boring) or Polaris (what real history did they have before he joined that team?). I heard that Claremont wanted to do a love-triangle with Gambit and Jean... but I hate love-triangles, they always become pointless and it doesn't do the characters, who are adults, any favors to be written as teenagers. Gambit and Sage always got along, they had good chemistry, she clearly enjoined kissing him, although she did have other reasons for doing that and I'm not sure that relationship would go very far.
I don’t remember exactly, but I think PAD was doing something with polarization s dealing with bipolar disorder (hence why some of her behavior). It was a long time ago so I won’t swear to that.
I think the problem with cecelia was it was too rushed and too drawn out at the same time, lol. When astonishing started, they were already off panel super close, going to dinner every week, etc. so it was like they were already seriously dating, but not... Then the gambit solo hit and I guess Liu thought she couldn’t really write a ‘sell’ a serious relationship in astonishing when he was globetrotting around in the solo. So it stayed in the wired limbo holding pattern, with him as the perfect boyfriend, but not a boyfriend... it didn’t help that there wasn’t much chemistry l, so the readers (and other writers) weren’t clamoring for more.Good way to see it. So much stuff off panel, no story telling beyond the fight of the day.
Frenzy is actually one of my favorite "newer" X-Men... so, I disagree with the "[un] likable character" thing. She's got more depth than most of the main X-Men, who more often than not stay with the team, not because they believe in the dream, per se, but because they need help or have nowhere else to go. Like Gambit and a handful of others, Frenzy chose to become an X-Man after feeling what it was like to be needed and be a hero during Age of X. She's natural adrenaline junky that just so happened to get her fix from doing "bad things". Once she got a taste of something else, she ran with that. It's why she became the JGS head of security (to protect the young mutants there, also why she was the first one to confront the Avengers in AvX), or why she allowed herself to be used as a martyr in hopes of the Inhumans using their resources to cure the T-mist cloud. On a smaller scale, she led a resistance team during that time Captain America was a Nazi (the @#@$ were they thinking).
And poor Belle, set up to get killed and then they bring her back just to make her into a trope. Insane jealous ex-girlfriend. I was glad to see her in Mr. & Mrs. X as not being a total psycho.
Totally agree with this comment. Belle has so much potential as an awesome character but has been largely under-used and underdeveloped to play the psycho ex who can't just move on. When she tries, it turns out the guy's a traitor and/or she likes the guy purely because he reminds her of Gambit. She deserves much better, imo, and I was also happy to see Mr. & Mrs. X moving towards a more nuanced approach.
Very much so. Hopefully, they'll delve deeper into it in the future.
I feel that written well, Belle could easily carry her own on-going series.
I feel that written well, Belle could easily carry her own on-going series.I mean, I guess she technically could. But I think some characters are meant to just be amazing secondary characters and there's nothing wrong with that. I think she is one of those. I'm not really interested in seeing her as anything else tbh. Not everyone needs a spinoff.
it probably would have made more sense for Frenzy and Gambit to be a thing during the Age of X storyline instead of Frenzy and Cyclops. That would have made the connection with Gambit stronger and a bit more natural given they did in fact have a past.
Having said that, in my headcanon, Gambit and Cece eventually decide to end it and remain friends as Cece and Gambit realize that a nice normal life simply isn't in the cards for him.
Gambit and Polaris would have made sense to me coming off of Cece. She being more of a free spirit, a touch crazy and pretty much Gambit's type. I would have loved to see what could have developed if X-factor had continued and especially with Quicksilver's reaction to the relationship. Sadly as with most Gambit writers, PAD never really went all on on the character.
I feel like a lot of Gambit fans during that time had an "anyone but Rogue" mentality. Which I get on some level. But I just didn't think that would be the basis of sound storytelling or an interesting relationship. Which reminds me of my biggest problem with current books: I miss the days when the X-writers did research about characters. I miss when they cared about continuity. Now it seems like they just throw things to a wall to see what sticks. :(
I feel like a lot of Gambit fans during that time had an "anyone but Rogue" mentality. Which I get on some level. But I just didn't think that would be the basis of sound storytelling or an interesting relationship. Which reminds me of my biggest problem with current books: I miss the days when the X-writers did research about characters. I miss when they cared about continuity. Now it seems like they just throw things to a wall to see what sticks. :(
I think the mishandling of characters with large amount of built history is the problem with today's books. The current crop don't care what the history is, only the story they want to tell. It doesn't matter that it doesn't work for the characters.
Even back in the day when there were more pages, some missteps took place, my example would the total lack of reaction from Rogue when leaving Gambit to die in Antarctica. It wasn't address til the fans complained, then only a panel of two devoted because even back then 1990's, writers just wanted to use the characters for the story and not deal with the history. It was a start to the decline of character driving stories.
Fabian, Claremont and maybe a few others understood the history and respected it and worked with it while telling a story. That is what is lacking now. IMO.
My favorite things with Wolverine and Gambit is they had a rapport, I never understood fans who thought the only characters who had anything in relationship wise to Gambit was Rogue and Storm. What? That doesn't even make sense based on the history.
Wolverine and Gambit have gone on trips before, how is it possible to get the bromance between them so wrong. They've stolen the batmobile together for eff sakes. They went a trip to Madripoor and while dubious in trust, they still had each others back. Even PAD handled it better than most and he was terrible with Gambit.
It's so sad, I used to love this hobby so much.
I think the mishandling of characters with large amount of built history is the problem with today's books. The current crop don't care what the history is, only the story they want to tell. It doesn't matter that it doesn't work for the characters.
Even back in the day when there were more pages, some missteps took place, my example would the total lack of reaction from Rogue when leaving Gambit to die in Antarctica. It wasn't address til the fans complained, then only a panel of two devoted because even back then 1990's, writers just wanted to use the characters for the story and not deal with the history. It was a start to the decline of character driving stories.
Fabian, Claremont and maybe a few others understood the history and respected it and worked with it while telling a story. That is what is lacking now. IMO.
My favorite things with Wolverine and Gambit is they had a rapport, I never understood fans who thought the only characters who had anything in relationship wise to Gambit was Rogue and Storm. What? That doesn't even make sense based on the history.
Wolverine and Gambit have gone on trips before, how is it possible to get the bromance between them so wrong. They've stolen the batmobile together for eff sakes. They went a trip to Madripoor and while dubious in trust, they still had each others back. Even PAD handled it better than most and he was terrible with Gambit.
It's so sad, I used to love this hobby so much.
But I wish they could make a good gambit story
Anthony Mackie is a fan of Gambit
https://www.reddit.com/r/xmen/comments/mgd5er/anthony_mackie_is_an_xmen_stan/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/xmen/comments/mgd5er/anthony_mackie_is_an_xmen_stan/)
During an interview for a movie Mackie did with Jamie Dornan, he said that Dornan looks like Gambit and should play the character. So nice to know he is an actual Gambit fan.
As to the rumor, it's very unlikely (the source isn't reliable, either). Still, it’s cool to see Gambit coming up in rumors again.
Yeah, Mackie tries to convience all his co-stars to play Remy ;D
The only thing good about Tatum's interest was his enthusiasm. Not only is he too old now but his only real claim to fame is 'Magic Mike'.
Yeah, that was great having an actor speak so positively about the character when the writers and reviewers were all negative.
Agreed. I loved he was a fan of the character, and thus would have trued his hardest. However, he's a potato head who cannot act, doesn't look like Remy, and is too old now, plus, he's no a draw anymore.
Well damn, bro! LOL!
Agreed. I loved he was a fan of the character, and thus would have trued his hardest. However, he's a potato head who cannot act, doesn't look like Remy, and is too old now, plus, he's no a draw anymore.
The main reason he's not as big a draw right now is because he put his whole career on hold to try to get the Gambit movie made.
Tatum had at least 14 movie projects between 2014 - 2019. And has an upcoming one in 2021 that he is directing. Respectfully, I disagree about his 'hold' on his career.
The only thing good about Tatum's interest was his enthusiasm. Not only is he too old now but his only real claim to fame is 'Magic Mike'.
https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/ryan-reynolds-reportedly-gambit-deadpool-3/ (https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/ryan-reynolds-reportedly-gambit-deadpool-3/)
Noooooooooooooo!
https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/ryan-reynolds-reportedly-gambit-deadpool-3/ (https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/ryan-reynolds-reportedly-gambit-deadpool-3/)
Noooooooooooooo!
About to do another movie with Sandra Bullock. That being said....hes to old to play Gambit. Gaperd Ulliel (French actor) all the way
I honestly can't understand why this guy's name keep coming up. What a terrible, terrible pick for Gambit. Old, French and weird-looking. Gambit should be played by someone young, unknown and good-looking. Disney usually does a good job at casting decisions, so there's hope.
Okay, trying to stay positive here, DP is in the MCU officially in #3. So really, Gambit could be the first X-Man to make it to the big screen in the MCU universe. No doubt there will be many jokes made at his expense, so we will have to gird our fragile Gambit-loving egos, my friends.
I honestly can't understand why this guy's name keep coming up. What a terrible, terrible pick for Gambit. Old, French and weird-looking. Gambit should be played by someone young, unknown and good-looking. Disney usually does a good job at casting decisions, so there's hope.
Him wanting the character in the movie (allegedly) and him actually being in the movie are two different things. I don't think it would make much sense introducing Gambit as a side character in a movie about Deadpool. One thing about Disney is that they recognize and exploit potential when they see it. I'm sure they realize that Gambit could be another Deadpool (in terms of popularity and success) if they play their cards right. I think they'd find a smarter way to introduce him. But we'll see. Aren't these the same people who reported that other stuff about Tatum?Agreed. Apples and Oranges at this point.
Funny, we've waited years for Gambit to finally get a pop. Now in the last 12 months he's had about 5 or 6. I think he's getting a black light pop as well.Agreed. The writers they have are terrible. I don't like the direction or the lack of care for history.
He's popular and prominent enough in the merchandise world. Hopefully the MCU and maybe even a new animated series will help things.
I've given up on the comics, it's just never gonna happen...and no one one buys comics anymore, so he's better off getting a push in other media.
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1383057643149885443?s=19 (https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1383057643149885443?s=19)
New X-Men team announced. Rogue is on it, which leaves Gambit alone with Tini Howard. Personally... I'm terrified. I don't like the idea of him alone with her because without Rogue, she may give him more stuff to do instead of safely being tucked away in the background.
No good can come of this... Perhaps because Tini is doing X-Corp and Rictor is getting a solo book, for some reason - Gambit will get stuck in limbo! Which is preferable to what we've been offered as of late.
I saw this coming a while back, Gambit in limbo is inevitable...and it's happened far too many times in the last 15 years to be honest. Always scrambling for a spot in a satellite X-Book. I don't see the point in him being in Excalibur, we probably have to rely on Duggan for table scraps...and he's trolled Gambit in the past, so...
I'm really hoping the MCU and Disney+ can do something about him, because in the comic world I really think he's finished.
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1383057643149885443?s=19 (https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1383057643149885443?s=19)
New X-Men team announced. Rogue is on it, which leaves Gambit alone with Tini Howard. Personally... I'm terrified. I don't like the idea of him alone with her because without Rogue, she may give him more stuff to do instead of safely being tucked away in the background.
No good can come of this... Perhaps because Tini is doing X-Corp and Rictor is getting a solo book, for some reason - Gambit will get stuck in limbo! Which is preferable to what we've been offered as of late.
Basically the whole of Krakoa voted for Rogue to break up with Gambit. There had to be a Survivor aspect to the island, right?
Did this happen? I'm not reading this garbage. Are they going to break them up?
Did this happen? I'm not reading this garbage. Are they going to break them up?
Maybe it’ll be the moment Gambit realizes Rogue doesn’t actually love him, and he’ll slink off all butt-hurt and Rogue can continue to be the Good Guy and Gambit will just never be Good Enough.
Limbo would be much better than being written by Tini and Duggan (the assh*le).
Never trust the Duggan.
Funny, we've waited years for Gambit to finally get a pop. Now in the last 12 months he's had about 5 or 6. I think he's getting a black light pop as well.Wasn’t there someone here who emailed Funko asking if they were going to make gambit or night crawler pops? They responded back that they didn’t have the license for those? So I guess once marvel let them make those pops, they made those pops.
He's popular and prominent enough in the merchandise world. Hopefully the MCU and maybe even a new animated series will help things.
I've given up on the comics, it's just never gonna happen...and no one one buys comics anymore, so he's better off getting a push in other media.
They won't be on the same team. Nothing official about their marriage ending, speculation for the moment.
More likely he just has Rogue cheat on Gambit and then Gambit will be written like a chump who just accepts it ala the whole Make Carey storyline where Gambit pushed Rogue onto Mags so she could bang him and get it out of her system. More than likely it would be written as Gambit's fault Rogue cheated.
Rathe than a cheating situation, I kinda picture a baby-whiner moment where Gambit says something dumb like: it’s the X-Men or me! And then stomps off like a child while Rogue nobly assumes the mantle of righteous heroism.
I think Gambit would work on Excalibur if the writer bothered to know the character at all. The Guild he grew up in was steeped in magical prophecy. His Tante Mattie is a voodoo priestess. He's pals with Doctor Voodoo. He STOLE THE EXCALIBUR from EXCALIBUR herself. And I don't know if it burned up with his New Sun powers, but he did have some lore crammed into his head by Sinister stolen from Ozymandius. He was even casting magic spells in the first issue of All New X-Factor.
Too many Gambit-haters writing X-Books at the moment.
Been like this for 20 years.
MCU and Disney+ are our only hope.
Yeah, I don't want Gambit on X-Force of Hellions for the exact reasons you listed, NicoPony.
Yep, it really is looking like the only hope for comic Gambit is for Gambit to be important in the MCU. Those same writers will suddenly be falling all over themselves to write him and say how they have always liked Gambit.
I kept hoping as time went by and people that grew up with Gambit started writing and editing the comics that he would get a place of prominence in the comics again, but aside from Kelly Thompson that has not happened. I guess there is still time for that though.
Nah, nah, nah. Not what I meant. Gambit can work in a magical-mystical book... not the @#@[email protected]$ that Excalibur has been about. Gambit makes fun of fairyland situations, he gets a kick out of it. We've seen that. The kind of supernatural book that would work with him is something with the tone of Midnight Sons or the last half of PADs X-Factor (Investigations). That and... #[email protected]@[email protected] if you cant write superhero comics - you shouldn't write superhero comics.
TBH, I don't know what Excalibur is about. And when I try to find summaries/reviews on it, it seems no one else knows what it's about either. ;D I get what you're saying now. I want Gambit in the real-world where he belongs. Not in Avalon or Otherworld or whatever the hell. I have never been into high fantasy like LOTR, but I like Harry Potter, The Magicians, because it incorporates reality. Like, magic CAN be real, my owl just hasn't arrived yet.
I'm all for exploring different genres with superheroes. When it comes to magic, if there's no explicit rules, then there seems to be no danger/repercussions. If it doesn't have ties to the world, then there's no impact or growth for any of the characters trapped in Excalibur.
Now there's an X-Corp, which I wonder will it be anything like PAD's concept of a corporate sponsored X-Team, or do we watch X-Men write TPS reports?
OK, changing topic. Can we talk about Gambit's Gala outfit? For someone who likes pink, comes from NOLA, this looks more like his PJs (if we didn't know he slept in the buff).
I'm going to pretend that the shirtlessness is the designer knowing Gambit eschews shirt-wearing and not just because he was lazy and didn't feel like finishing his drawing.
X-Corp was supposed to come out a while ago but got pushed back. From what I can tell it centers around Corporate Espionage and how Krakoa is taking over industries - which is what I thought Marauders was leaning into, to be honest. It's another avenue someone like Gambit could easily guest star or become a regular in - buuuut it's being written by Tini Howard, so, adamantium-hard pass on that.
Again another reason why I think Excalibur is ending. With her over there and Rictor getting his own book (The Druid) - perhaps it's done but maybe at least a different creative team? Maybe when Bryan Edward Hill returns with Fallen Angels - he'll cast Gambit? The book of wasn't great but I dug the tone and it was the only book where Sinister after like himself.
Don, where did you get info about Rictor solo book? I can't find it anywhere.
I hope Excalibur will end soon but it probably won't end till issue 25 or 27 that will be October or December.
Don't care for Gala but Gambit's look is boring. Probably just a wallpaper look for a wallpaper character that won't have even a line in a main story.
Don, where did you get info about Rictor solo book? I can't find it anywhere.
I hope Excalibur will end soon but it probably won't end till issue 25 or 27 that will be October or December.
Don't care for Gala but Gambit's look is boring. Probably just a wallpaper look for a wallpaper character that won't have even a line in a main story.
Is MODOK a rip off of Krang from TMNT, or the other way around?
March Sales Estimates
10) Demon Days X-Men 1
21) Children of the Atom 1
23) X-Men 19
35) X-Force 18
37) Deadpool Nerdy 30 (one-shot)
40) X-Men Legends 2
43) Wolverine Black White Blood 4
61) SWORD 4
67) Hellions 10
75) Excalibur 19
84) X-Factor 8
88) Cable 9
Cable is cancelled already with #12. Not sure if X-Factor is cancelled but it is not solicited for July.
Excalibur is next X book with the worst sales so hopefully #22 on July will start it`s last arc and after it we would never see Howard writing Gambit again.
"The Trial" does fit better. I agree.
But I hope it does spell the end of the Excalibur book seeing as Howard is moving onto X-Corp. She could be doing two books but I wouldn't understand why with so many writers I'm sure are interested in writing Marvel's newest pet project. I have the same hopes for Duggan. Currently he's writing Marauders and Cable. Cable is ending - and while there's been no news about Marauders, we know he's writing X-Men.
My hope is that Gambit is moved to Marauders and the book gets a new creative team. I don't know if the above are books being added to the line, or taking over what's already there. If it's the former, then what? 3 or 4 writers will have 2 books each in one franchise?
For me, it's move Gambit or limbo. I agree with you guys and I've said as much before. Gambit would work better in Hellions or X-Force but I don't want him turned into a running death gag under a writer that will undoubtedly take advantage of it.
However, I doubt his death would be as simple as those on the Hellions who either don't have a lot of people concerned about them or have family that have 100% bought into the Resurrection protocols.
Rogue, hasn't seemed to buy in yet, neither has Gambit just with how they've carried themselves in conversations about Krakoa and it's future. Either one of them dying would have huge implications for the other spouse even with resurrection I don't think any writer wants to deal with. And I don't think anyone want to read more than once.
Similar to the idea of Rogue getting pregnant. It works as a conversation within a subplot, but it actually being a "thing"... Sounds like a lot to deal with in an action comic at this point.
Rogue, hasn't seemed to buy in yet, neither has Gambit just with how they've carried themselves in conversations about Krakoa and it's future. Either one of them dying would have huge implications for the other spouse even with resurrection I don't think any writer wants to deal with. And I don't think anyone want to read more than once.
Similar to the idea of Rogue getting pregnant. It works as a conversation within a subplot, but it actually being a "thing"... Sounds like a lot to deal with in an action comic at this point.
Personally, they should do something with Gambit and Sinister, but that's far too much to hope for. Gambit to me is the Black Widow/Hawkeye of the X-Universe, espionage is more his setting, not fantasy.
Would Gambit getting resurrected return him to his original factory settings? If so, please go ahead and Egg him. New Sun nuke Krakoa.
Rogue won’t get pregnant once she realizes she is gay for Polaris. When Gambit says: WTF, wife? They can say he’s a white cis male homophobe and send him packing as an bigoted dinosaur. Or if he asks if he can play too, they’ll say he’s a perv.
Egg him I say! Have Cerebro glitch, and Gambit wakes up with no memory of Rogue, Apocalypse, or Clown Pants.
Has Gambit met the crazy new Sinister yet? I am dying to know his take. My theory is that Sinister is like Michael Keaton’s character Number Four in Multiplicity. He’s a copy of a copy of a copy.
That was an excellent post... however, I haven't thought, about clown pants in years. Thanks for that...
I don't know how a rebirthed Gambit would work... Cyclops has been resurrected at least once, but perhaps twice, and still doesn't have control over his optic blast.
Problabily wont go further, but I reached Donny Crates about making a Gambit book. I still have things to do after Birthright but wanted him to know we could do it
OK, changing topic. Can we talk about Gambit's Gala outfit? For someone who likes pink, comes from NOLA, this looks more like his PJs (if we didn't know he slept in the buff).
I'm going to pretend that the shirtlessness is the designer knowing Gambit eschews shirt-wearing and not just because he was lazy and didn't feel like finishing his drawing.
In fairness, his costume seems to have a bit more creative flair than Angel's.
Emma looks like she found a lost colony of yetis, skinned their leader, and declared herself their queen in one of her looks...
Again. It was just a rumor Rictor was getting a solo using the title. And then this image came out. You can see it under "Classified"
"THE DR" are clear at the top.
Not a definite, but it's something to look at.
(https://terrigen-cdn-dev.marvel.com/content/prod/1x/x_lineup-social-1920x1080_04_1.jpg)
Gambit is channeling his inner Vampire Lestat, I’m convinced of it.
https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/marvel-x-men-the-animated-series-favorite-character/ (https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/marvel-x-men-the-animated-series-favorite-character/)
How do you vote on this? Do you have to have twitter?
https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/marvel-x-men-the-animated-series-favorite-character/ (https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/marvel-x-men-the-animated-series-favorite-character/)Yes, you have to have twitter to vote or comment. They want to read opinions from fans. I didn't see this until you posted. I'll check for the direct twitter link. I'll edit this post when I find it.
How do you vote on this? Do you have to have twitter?
May 15th tweetYeah, yeah, should have said Xman - but I had already deleted a tweet because I forgot to add a comment. I'm done with it. :crazy2:
Gambit because he is the sexiest Xmen EVER. Everyone is 'thirsty' for him.
I watched a video that said the same thing a while ago. I would love for Rogue to appear in CM2. But the whole good boy bad girl thing seems like it should be the other way around. Or like maybe they should both be bad guys who meet and flirt as bad guys before both eventually find their way to the X-Men individually. But whatever. We shall see.
I believe so. It doesn't seem to be on their Bookface.
I listened to a podcast recently re: Disney+ and Gambit in the MCU. The "sources" say that Rogue would be intro'd in Captain Marvel 2 and G-man would have a Disney+ show. And when the two met, Gambit would be the "good guy" (kinda) and Rogue would be the bad girl.
I watched a video that said the same thing a while ago. I would love for Rogue to appear in CM2. But the whole good boy bad girl thing seems like it should be the other way around. Or like maybe they should both be bad guys who meet and flirt as bad guys before both eventually find their way to the X-Men individually. But whatever. We shall see.
Just want you all to know, I love all of y'all here. Talking here about anything is so much saner than anywhere else. I wish we were together more often.
This may be unlikely but doesn't it seem Rogue and Gambit are surrounded by their friends applauding them? And Gambit is embracing Rogue. Could there actually be a baby
announcement after all? It was teased in the first issue.
I haven't been paying close attention to the story. How are X-Men squads selected on their island?
Just want you all to know, I love all of y'all here. Talking here about anything is so much saner than anywhere else. I wish we were together more often.
I know it's hard with the lack of content. I'm about ready to join our fearless leader in comic eXile with X-Men being so rudderless. I had high expectations coming out of HoX and PoX and even a few months in and then it turned downward gradually. I'd say Excalibur crashed and burned right out of the gate. First issue was horrible and very hard to read - never recovered for me.
I don't understand why Gambit got stuck there outside of his marriage - but if you have space for this nonsense, why not entertain the idea of a name writer that wants to write him not falling into a hole..?
To be fair, one of the writers said something baby news, but it will probably end up being someone completely random like the last baby hints were. Or it will be Jean with the 17th summer’s kid. Megan is decent guess though, because she’ll go back to limbo after Excalibur ends. It’s possible Howard was planning a baby story, but no way in hell Dugan let’s her write that now.
Think they’re clapping bc Rogue got made an X-Man.
Lol, someone said the same thing about Meggan bc of how it looked like her hand was on her belly. Everyone has baby rabies.
Or it will be Jean with the 17th summer’s kid.
It appears Rogue will be on a new team. Jean, Cyke, Wolverine (female), and a few others.
I won't be buying it and it appears Gambit is either in limbo or something.
Gerry Duggan tweeted the cover art for issue #2. (X-men).
LOLOLOLZ
Excalibur is missing from the August solicits. So you're probably right, Excalibur is done for.
Meanwhile, there was a Gambit/Frenzy sighting. The two of them are walking into the Gala together on the Green Carpet in New Mutants previews. Please let Frenzy take Gambit to a galaxy far far away from Excalibur.
I hope not. I like SWORD but Gambit may be as out of place there as he was in Otherworld. Don't get me wrong... I like the idea of him in space - but as an adventurer or maybe a pseudo-space pirate scoundrel-type. I wonder if he's one of those empty spots on the info-pages in SWORD? Staff positions that haven't been filled.
Yeah, the full team is 7 people - Jean, Cyke, X-23, Synch, Sunfire, Rogue, and Polaris. Not the biggest of names - but as name-heavy as Marvel typically allows their X-men books to be ... because I guess they like testing how far a book can go before they reboot it.
Surprised you didn't hear about it before now, boss-lady
Unfortunatelly Excalibur is not dead yet and just skipped August.
Weren't the X-Men on Utopia more than ten years ago? What the appeal of X-Men and isolation?
Unfortunately, Gambit doesn’t really get a chance at new exploration, he’s in a box. The major players who get all the attention and hold all the power are Magneto and Xavier. I do not understand why so many writers have such a hard-on for Magneto.
It's the cape.
He couldn’t be lying, we saw him blow up the books on panel. Whether or not Hickman bother with an explanation, we’ll see...
Remy got back missed part of brain by Sinister. Probably got completely un-lobotomized by Faiza in Gambit #17 but it never was used later or explained. Because no writer cared.
Problabily wont go further, but I reached Donny Crates about making a Gambit book. I still have things to do after Birthright but wanted him to know we could do it
Rats, I think it happens in X-Men #202 Endangered Species and just happens that is not a book I own. 201, check. 203. Yup. No 202. Anyway...maybe it was a sleight of hand? ;D If it was drawn by Ramos or Bachalo it's anyone's guess what is going on at any particular time because the art is just so nonsensical and horrendous.
Asmus was hobbled, not allowed to have Gambit do anything, interact with anyone, or become too interesting lest it have any impact at all in the rest of the universe. It was left vague just what G was capable of.
Is it too much to hope that Gambit would be involved in Inferno? Wishful thinking, considering the author. But if it involves Mystique, the Diaries, Destiny and Sinister...
Sinister is cooking up babies over in Hellions. He and Destiny had worked together on Black Womb. The Inferno arc, at least the 80s version, had to do with babies. The upcoming one has a baby in the teaser art. C'mon, man. Mystique and Gambit team-up round two! What could possibly go wrong?
Don`t want to be a negative one but I don`t expect anything good for Gambit at all. Hickman marked characters that he wants to use. Remy is not one of them.
yeah yeah i know. it's going to be the same five characters featured in every major storyline regarding "the fate of mutantkind." but it's fun to imagine how easily Gambit could play in this storyline.
Yeah, I agree. The only hope is that some writer would want to write Gambit and get him for a new project. Like Duggan chose Rogue for his new X-Men team. If Hickman continued to write a new X-Men team then it would be for sure Monet on team instead of Rogue like in HOX POX and even Swords of X event.
Nico- I thought he destroyed the diaries in Messiah Complex, I think? When he was with Sinister pretending to be a maurader. He acted like it was an accident because another maurader threw off his aim
Yeah, I agree. The only hope is that some writer would want to write Gambit and get him for a new project. Like Duggan chose Rogue for his new X-Men team. If Hickman continued to write a new X-Men team then it would be for sure Monet on team instead of Rogue like in HOX POX and even Swords of X event.
Good grief.
So much lack of Gambit, we'll have too read fanfic. :crazy2:
AppleJ wrote this a couple months back. Thought it was pretty good.
https://www.archiveofourown.org/works/28944381 (https://www.archiveofourown.org/works/28944381)
The Gala event kicked off yesterday. I heard that there was some ROMY wallpaper in a few panels, but since I only tune in to Hellions, I didn't see it. It makes sense Gambit would avoid Sinister at a party.
...Jubs with Shogo symbiot.But art is beautiful as always...
Dead Gambit is better then No Gambit at teaser.
It is the first time that he is used on event poster.
Think the people on the ground are the ones questioning the status quo.
Havok: But why can’t Maddie come back? I miss getting spanked.
Gambit: Apocalypse is a tool! Why is no one listening to meeee???
Wolvie: This islands pollen count is off the charts and now I have hay fever permanently.
Jean: ain’t nobody gonna tell me nothiiiin
Polaris: stop mansplaining everything to me DAD!
I read Hellions and enjoy it a lot but I probably missed that data page:(
Stay home with the cats?!
Well that Brooks Inferno promo pic with Gambit on the ground (with a few other A-listers) gives me hope that he might have a role to play in a major event.
He doesn't need to be front and centre, just a respectable showing.
you know... even knowing Tini has some plans for Gambit alone, does any of you get excited about it?
https://aiptcomics.com/2021/06/14/x-men-monday-110-hellfire-gala-week-2/ (https://aiptcomics.com/2021/06/14/x-men-monday-110-hellfire-gala-week-2/)
AIPT: Speaking of X-Couples, X-Fan Kristen said Gambit and Rogue have been side by side since their wedding. Now, they’ll be transitioning into having an extreme work life/home life shift to the point they largely will not be living together. How did the decision play out to put them in different books? And similarly, X-Fan Scott Evans asked if the X-Men Election caused Tini Howard to have to change her plans for Excalibur.
Jordan: It wasn’t a real election. [Laughs] There was only the one character that got actually elected in real life — we just picked who was going to be on the team for those other six characters. So you know, when we started planning the book, Gerry was like, “Hey, I’d like to use Rogue.” And Tini was like, “Cool, that sounds neat.” And that was long enough ago that Tini didn’t have to blow anything up.
As for Gambit, there was some back and forth on that, actually. Like, what should happen to him? If Rogue is going to join the X-Men, should he go live there as like, a little househusband or what? And there, Tini was like, “Actually I do have stuff I would want to keep doing with Gambit and I think it makes sense for him to stay here in Excalibur and do these things.” And we went great, it’s not a problem. And don’t forget, this is Krakoa, they have gates. They can walk from New York to England…
AIPT: X-Fan Emmanuel Boyd pointed out that Gambit revealed he has his own plans. What can you tease about these plans and how soon might we see them?
Jordan: Keep reading, keep reading. It’s in Excalibur. Tini, like I said, does have stuff in the hopper for Gambit. And it’s going to be playing out there. So if you want to see what mischief Gambit’s up to, that’s the place to look. Although, they’re husband and wife. So he makes appearances in other places. He will appear at least a little bit in X-Men. I’m not saying he’s in every issue of X-Men, but I do know there’s at least a scene in X-Men that I’ve seen drawn already that is pretty great.
you know... even knowing Tini has some plans for Gambit alone, does any of you get excited about it?
"househusband?"
The annoying thing is they would never say this the other way. Imagine the flack a writer would get for saying something like, "Oh maybe Rogue should just be a housewife now." While Gambit is off adventuring. The headlines and twitter mobs would be going ape.Agreed. I almost said the same thing. Gambit has been emasculated and its hard to support him in any book when you can't recognize the character that was once so much more than he is now.
Worse than that, “little househusband.” Having cats makes no difference, you can still be a housewife or househusband kids or no kids. Household management is a fine occupation, I have myself spent time in this pursuit. But not ideal for a comic book superhero.
Man, I used to want to be Gambit. Attractive, gift of gab, athletic. Now Gambit is me, has too many cats, doesn’t leave the house, falls down for no reason.
Excalibur #22 cover. Gambit looks how I feel about this book. Tired, and just kinda like:why?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E377b08XIAEqzTd?format=jpg&name=large (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E377b08XIAEqzTd?format=jpg&name=large)
It was the logic of "WHAT THE @#@$" for Gambit. The @#[email protected] does that even mean? Why was that even a thought in the head of an X-Men writer?
The annoying thing is they would never say this the other way. Imagine the flack a writer would get for saying something like, "Oh maybe Rogue should just be a housewife now." While Gambit is off adventuring. The headlines and twitter mobs would be going ape.
Not worth the mobs and how easily upset they become at the injustice of Rogue being a housewife.
Why its seen as some horrible thing, I don't know.
Women do domestic stuff all the time. Some are even creative by calling it domestic engineering.
At this point, Gambit is a trophy husband with no character. The traits given after he was created is long gone.
It is reverse sexism.
Since TH supports the LGBT+ community, you'd think she would be smarter in her answers. You would think she would know better than to label. Is the comment some sort of 'shaming'? In the world of woke, something to think about.
I agree about the stripping down Gambit's character. He is not only boring, he's replaceable with anybody.
TV handles problematic characters all the time and gain much love from fans with them I don't know why comic books are what they are now.
I may edit my comments, the world of woke scares me into silence.
It is apples to apples because it's a stupid idea for any established marvel superhero. It's used disparagingly for a chuckle for Gambit. But if used to joke about Rogue would set them off. Hypocrites and just a lame comment in general.
I have very little hope for Gambit going forward unfortunately. I'm even losing hope for him in the MCU.
My bad on getting who said what wrong. I should look it up too but in the grand scheme of things, bleh.
My general thought is ... somebody else should handle Gambit. Not a person who doesn't get him.
As for writers ... writing for themselves. Isn't that fanfic? I think it is because they certainly don't support continuity.
It is apples to apples because it's a stupid idea for any established marvel superhero. It's used disparagingly for a chuckle for Gambit. But if used to joke about Rogue would set them off. Hypocrites and just a lame comment in general.
I have very little hope for Gambit going forward unfortunately. I'm even losing hope for him in the MCU.
Watch these mofos trip over themselves to personally butcher his character at the mention of a live-action project.
Tini wanting to hold onto him might be a self-preservation tactic. Look at her line-up: Braddock (not Psylocke), Rictor, Meagan, Jubilee. I'd argue the name "Psylocke" is a selling point - not Betsy Braddock. The look that people recognize is with Hellions (but I can easily say that "Kwannon" isn't popular either, but way less known than "Betsy"). Marvel split one character into two. Gambit is legit her biggest name and he's an unutilized background character.
Hellions is a gem of a book. I wish I jumped on at the beginning. Loving it now, though... Even with clown Sinister, who's actually pretty funny... Not Sinister, but still very entertaining.
Got no evidence bit Wells seems the type of writer that would use Gambit very well. But despite his misuse, I think Gambit is still protected to a point. They can humiliate the character and annoy us all they like but I think they'll only go so far - as we saw in Deadpool V Gambit. As bad of a story as it was, it could have been worse.
Hopeful this next arc with these magician people is the last, that Betsy “proves” she’s a worthy Cap Britain and puts this to bed. If she can make Rictor king of the Druids in two pages, surely she can wrap up her failing flailing Queen Betsy storyline in three issues.
I've got no clue of what you're talking about. ;D
https://screenrant.com/guardians-galaxy-2-yondu-mary-poppins-xmen-gambit/ (https://screenrant.com/guardians-galaxy-2-yondu-mary-poppins-xmen-gambit/)
Interesting connection they make here.
A few thoughts...
To start, some of you may be wondering what the heck an Iceman fan is doing here. 'Did he get lost, the poor thing?'
Ultimate Xmen 13-14 written by Chuck Austen - do you remember why he did the fill in for the book, because the writer of Ultimate Xmen didn't like Gambit. Stated as much in interviews and all of that, this is the stuff that really beats on a fanbase.
Glad to see you post Icefanatic. You are always welcome here. And my apologies for not visiting your forum more often. ABP is friendly and that is a good thing even if people are slow to post. People are slow to post here too.
Jubilee's face says it all.Now, that is funny.
You could rename the site Rogue’s Husband Guild and get a ton more members!! ;D ;)
I only tease the ones I love.
Ultimate Xmen 13-14 written by Chuck Austen - do you remember why he did the fill in for the book, because the writer of Ultimate Xmen didn't like Gambit. Stated as much in interviews and all of that, this is the stuff that really beats on a fanbase.Such a pervasive lack of professionalism in the X-Office. This is EXACTLY why I gave up on reading the new books several years ago. You shouldn't have to like a character in order to write them and give them a fair portrayal. Agatha Christie didn't like Poirot. Doyle hated Sherlock Holmes toward the end. Both writers put their own personal feelings aside and continued writing the characters because they realized that it was about their readers and not their egos.
Jubilee's face says it all.
A few thoughts...
I have no idea where this is headed except we will probably all eventually be wearing burqas and making pleasing hums at each other to avoid anyone seeing or hearing something that might offend them.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbr.com/marvel-characters-deserve-tv-adaptations/amp/ (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbr.com/marvel-characters-deserve-tv-adaptations/amp/)
Anybody see this? Notice how the author never actually gives us a REASON why Gambit shouldn't get a Disney+ series? Also, while I agree with Storm, I think it's ridiculous to say that Professor Xavier isn't interesting enough to have a series. I mean, I don't think I'd want one. But that is mostly because I think his backstory should be explored and alluded to in the main movies. But certainly not because he isn't interesting.
admin edit: formatting.
Enough with baby-dragon-boy nonsense! Stop trying to make it happen - it's not going to happen. No one cares!
Pandering and baiting are the problems, and have been for ages. Like by insinuating a throuple involving Wolverine/Cyclops/Jean with zero considerations for character growth and history, and then not bothering to address the complexities of a polyamorous relationship is pandering. If they’re trying to sell it as recognition of a kind of relationship outside of the heteronormative, then they are doing it wrong. Right now it comes across as some straight dude’s idea he had about Logan and Scott making Jean the Eiffel Tower. Then they bait a queer audience with the insinuation of a lesbian relationship, then make the audience pay for 20 issues worth of comics just to see them dance together. Or give the gay audience a book and immediately cancel it after getting recognized for their attempt. Then again, if you’re waiting for that all-female girl power team or for a POC to have a major role in the X-books, well you can have that…but only kinda because the same five white dudes (plus Emma Frost) are still headlining all the comics and calling all the shots. All attempts so far at being ”woke”, just more pandering and baiting, is worse when you do it under the guise of being inclusive. Lies, I tell you! it’s all lies!
Got no evidence bit Wells seems the type of writer that would use Gambit very well. But despite his misuse, I think Gambit is still protected to a point. They can humiliate the character and annoy us all they like but I think they'll only go so far - as we saw in Deadpool V Gambit. As bad of a story as it was, it could have been worse.
I don’t hate krakoa, but I don’t really like it either. I was more than done with the extinction stories, so change of pace isn’t bad. Don’t like the whole ‘humans are supposed to go extinct and mutants are unquestioned next step in evolution (because that’s never been a science thing, the ‘next step in evolution) and the magic plants… how do mutants have so much more power/control now? Magic plants, that make medicine and food and houses and computers and more land and they teleport too…
Magneto has in fact been recognized as a Saint now. Here he is as the blessed Virgin Mary, based on Michelangelo's Peita.
Ave Magneta.
Spoiler image:
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1410335662369345542/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1410335662369345542/photo/1)
Also... aside from Wanda's amazing support, is that a frilly lining around the crotch and legs of Wanda's costume or is that just some weirdly drawn musculature? Either way glad to know that being a corpse doesn't mean you can't grace the cover of an '80s Romance.
Otherwise, the technical skill is good.
In other news, Xmen #1 will have 24+ covers.
That is much better. ;) . And I think it’s more like forty covers, it’s ridiculous.They have to be doing a 1:1 ratio. Order the books and get what you get as it were. Gambit might be on one of them. :D
I’m not entirely sure what it means that Hickman isn’t at the helm. Did he dictate story beats and then the rest of the x-office follows a general outline?
Okay... now he is talking third person too?!! oh damn...
YOU GUYS!!! GAMBIT IS ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING!!
https://comic-watch.com/news/sneak-peek-exclusive-preview-of-marvels-excalibur-22 (https://comic-watch.com/news/sneak-peek-exclusive-preview-of-marvels-excalibur-22)
Catching a bullet? Blowing it up? Stealing something from Otherworld??
Claremont instagran:
Grabbing a tad of reward time after finishing Ga***t 3. Plus lots of other crazy stuff. Nothing like playing catch-up on deadlines.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CRAPYYdMjNH/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CRAPYYdMjNH/)
Purp Thanks for the scans as I stopped reading the pile of trash that is Excalibur. Tini still sucks writing Gambit but I didn't have a problem with his power uses here. I also don't think they really need to be explained in any detail as we have seen echoes of them before. Gambit has caught bullets and other fast objects before, he has powered Iron Man's suit as well as being the power source for Khan's interdimensional portal in X-treme, and with his death persona, he has used mystical cards before as he trapped someone within a card during Hellbound I believe it was.
admin edit: site crap as always.
I'd be fine with Claremont writing Gambit again. I think he would get Gambit back to the basics with a fun adventurous story. Asmus, on the other hand, is a hard pass. The more I read his run, the less I like it. I'm all for someone new taking a shot at a Gambit book. At this point I just want someone to take Gambit away from the hands of that awful untalented Excalibur writer. Warping Gambit's powers is not character development.
I think I read somewhere that CC gets paid whether he writes a book or not.
Having write Gambit would be a nice change from the current crop of writers.
I recently re-read Asmus' series and I actually came away liking it more. The pity-party stuff was lame, but him giving Tombstone a hard time was truly a treat. I seem to remember the same as Purp, Asmus' hands were tied.
Meh, the data page ended up being something else. Sinister is experimenting on himself, his favorite subject. FabNic was setting it up like Sinister might have some kind of empathy/humanity towards Gambit way back when, but that ship has long sailed. By this time, I'm sure Essex just feels Gambit is a nuisance. Every time Gambit is around, all Sinister's s*** gets broke.
Him being an unwanted baby is enough of a backstory considering the rest of the guild stuff is cuckoo bananas as it is. Not that I'm not totally into cuckoo bananas.
At this point I just want someone to take Gambit away from the hands of that awful untalented Excalibur writer. Warping Gambit's powers is not character development.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't have any kind of burning desire to know Gambit's parentage. I am perfectly fine with that facet of his life remaining a mystery.
I am more than okay with Claremont writing a Gambit solo, even if it is set in the past. I have always wanted a Claremont written story where Gambit is the undisputed star and main character.
Although same as NicoPony I would hope he won't try to push the Gambit as Sinister experiment thing. Not a fan of that. Also, I am expecting Gambit to be in a suit of some kind for this story, sigh. Not a big fan of that either, but Claremont seems obsessed with putting him in one now.
Super Agree!!! This is how I have always felt about it. I am perfectly fine with him being a normal mutant with normal human parents that did not want him because of his eyes of something. His origin does not need to be any more complicated. I know comic writers and a lot of fans are obsessed with every character being connected in some way, but I feel like it makes the Marvel Earth feel smaller and everyones origins overly convoluted and less unique and interesting.
I liked Asmus. I think he was just very limited in freedom or characters that he can use in Gambit`s book or what to do.
Asmus wasn`t allowed to use Black Cat, to make a rematch with Cap, to make Gambit in love with a male character and seduce other male character (Thanks Daniel Ketchum for not allowing it or Gambit would end up like Iceman now), to tell a story about Gambit`s real parents. Maybe something more but I don`t remember right now.
Super Agree!!! This is how I have always felt about it. I am perfectly fine with him being a normal mutant with normal human parents that did not want him because of his eyes of something. His origin does not need to be any more complicated. I know comic writers and a lot of fans are obsessed with every character being connected in some way, but I feel like it makes the Marvel Earth feel smaller and everyones origins overly convoluted and less unique and interesting.
[/size]Also, I am expecting Gambit to be in a suit of some kind for this story, sigh. Not a big fan of that either, but Claremont seems obsessed with putting him in one now.
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IMO - being a thief and all. Classy all the way, with a black or pin stripe suit.
I miss when Gambit would just wear a leather jacket ripped jeans and boots as his casual wear.
I was thinking that Claremont wrote a treatment for Tatum`s Gambit. In script for movie it was revealed at the end that Gambit is Sinister`s son.
Then I remembered X-Men The end and old theory video:
https://www.reddit.com/r/xmen/comments/4c3mh6/xmen_gambit_theory_video_with_new_evidence/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/xmen/comments/4c3mh6/xmen_gambit_theory_video_with_new_evidence/)
Interesting what everyone is thinking. Would you like this to be used?
I would like Gambit to be a resurrected Adam Essex, NOT a clone. With all pod people from Krakoa it feels like a logical time for reveal. And NicoPony shared not so long ago a Hellions data page that was similar to Black Womb.
Rogue in general is the most offensive thing .... and it wouldn't be that way if writers were not worshiping her or self inserting themselves and demeaning Gambit for her. Apologies to Rogue fans, those who are here are good people. The bad people are on fanfic and the other place(s). Lets face it, the day of the forum is gone. IMO
As for suits for Gambit. Can't agree with the brown one. That was one of the worst eye sores I've seen.
IMO - being a thief and all. Classy all the way, with a black or pin stripe suit.
I guess I'm the odd one out in feeling that the theory Claremont provided in The End made some sort of sense and I didn't hate it. However, I love the idea you posited here, too!
As to his parents in general, does every character need a connection to another one? Or some strange sci-fi origin story? No, not really.
The story someone concocted for Rogue's parents in her solo series some years back comes to mind as strange and needlessly convoluted. The part with her aunt was the only thing in that that felt like it had any emotional integrity to it. The otherworldly bells and whistles felt like they were thrown into the pot by someone who was trying too hard to come up with anything other than "typical". Those are just my feelings though.
With Gambit, on the other hand, I feel like it makes sense that his origin may not be so straightforward, and obviously, in the hands of a good writer, could be done wonderfully.
Can someone please tell me what these clown pants are?
Can someone please tell me what these clown pants are?
The clown pants were in X-Men(2013) #23 written by G. Willow Wilson. And yeah that was a low point for the character.
Willow... Right... You right... Why did I think it was Wood? Did he take over after she left or something?
I guess I'm the odd one out in feeling that the theory Claremont provided in The End made some sort of sense and I didn't hate it. However, I love the idea you posited here, too!
So it was just to make fun of him then. The free back rubs thing sounds even worse believe it or not.
I'd actually be more annoyed if his connection to Sinister was just left unexplored. Plot holes and unexplained strings annoy me to no end.
I didn't hate it, either. At this point, Gambit's origins not having connections to Sinister would be nonsensical.
Having said that, no need for any kind of relation to the boring Summers, please.
The combo is worse.
(I apologize in advance.)
4chan rumor so don`t be very excited. But it would be really cool if it was a real one.
https://www.cbr.com/netherrealms-marvel-fighting-game-leaks/ (https://www.cbr.com/netherrealms-marvel-fighting-game-leaks/)
The roster for NetherRealm's long-rumored Marvel fighting game has supposedly leaked.
The character list for the game includes, "Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Wolverine, Black Panther, Spider-Man, Groot and Rocket (duo character), Blade, Gamora, Moon Knight, Ghost Rider, Gambit, Shang-Chi, Kitty Pryde, Invisible Woman, Mr Fantastic, Hulk, Skaar, Doctor Octopus, Blob, Mojo, Bullseye, Mephisto, Daken, Arnim Zola, Venom, Abomination, Deacon Frost (and) Madam Masque."
Deadpool will be offered as a pre-order bonus. The first DLC pack will reportedly include Daredevil, Cyclops, Raiden and Kylo Ren (of the Star Wars franchise).
Worse than clown pants was that... person calling Gambit skeevy to justify the clown pants, and his offering free massages and getting the brush-off *sigh*
Don't look Don! The eye sore that is clown pants in the thread.
Thanks for posting it - andresa, I had looked for far too long so that others who didn't know about them would understand. LOL
edit: they're worse than I remember and those shoes! oof.
Ahh... I remember the 'skeevy' comment. When pressed to give examples of such behavior we got crickets. Gambit does have questionable behavior but only die-hard fans that actually read his books would know of the literally 1 or 2 bad looks over his career (the Nun-thing and Storm... and the latter was a two-way street). Most people who trash Gambit make up most of their mental images of him in their heads and just run with headcanon. Cyke, Emma, Wolverine, Angel, Psylocke, and Xavier are ten times more "skeevy" than Gambit has ever been in his 30yr comic history. It's bull*%#%.
Well, whatever there is to be said about T.H.’s writing, at the very least she doesn’t use her book as a forum to sh!t-post on Gambit. Can’t say the same for other writers.
Most people who trash Gambit make up most of their mental images of him in their heads and just run with headcanon. Cyke, Emma, Wolverine, Angel, Psylocke, and Xavier are ten times more "skeevy" than Gambit has ever been in his 30yr comic history. It's bull*%#%.
Yeah, super agree. That bothers me so much. I have long found Cyclops to be a bit on the disturbing side when it comes to women and you have no idea how much Emma Frost getting a free pass on everything she does bothers me. The speculation around that Inferno cover with Frost on it has bothered me for kind of that reason too. People want her to be part of the "take down" of Xavier and Magneto as if she has any moral high ground whatsoever over either character and want her to take over leadership of Krakoa as if she wouldn't make questionable decisions as well(like I don't know, manipulating the minds of some world leaders or something like she already did lol).
You want to point out some bad behavior? Cool, bring a story out of it and show the character growth.
But hey! Wolverine getting the teenager Jean in ultimate xmen is super cool!! - SARCASM.
Think some writers can’t deal with characters they can’t either see themselves being or see themselves wanting to have sex with. Which is why Emma gets such focus. Upcoming solicits look great if you’re a fan of Emma. Wonder what that’s like, to see your fave appear in multiple books every week looking awesomely righteous. Guess I’ll never know.
But hey! Wolverine getting the teenager Jean in ultimate xmen is super cool!! - SARCASM.
That reminds me of X-Men Evolution (a show I never cared for), where some people got angry over that Gambit was only a few years older than Rogue, even though they were not dating, but these same people had no problem with a high school student being with Wolverine...
Gambit in X-Men 2 preview.
https://www.superherohype.com/comics/502089-exclusive-preview-x-men-2#2
Damn, that small description of events has me nervous.
Sadly, that's not the first time I've seen people liking and deafening statutory rape pairings, especially these days. I don't see that many people referencing Evolution, at least to the places I go to, and the fact that the writers wanted to kill off Jean and force Scott and Rogue together, despite the fact the two had next to no real connection or similarities, really showed the god awful writing that show had.
Different strokes...I do think Evolution was the best depiction of Rogue I've ever seen, and the only one I like.
Rogue can't risk her flawless reputation, other than her porking the Master of Magnetism (on trial) and her rubbing of mouth-holes with Wade Wilson (murderer 1000x over), by letting it be known her card-sharp husband is gambling in the basement. But we hold Gambit to higher standards because he is that much more of a man.
Gambit in X-Men 2 preview.
https://www.superherohype.com/comics/502089-exclusive-preview-x-men-2#2 (https://www.superherohype.com/comics/502089-exclusive-preview-x-men-2#2)
That'll be probably be the only page he'll be in for this issue, and I guess that's fine considering that he's not part of the main cast, so I understand that. But Duggan's got his voice right, he's pretty much in character here.
I enjoyed Evolution Rogue as well. But TAS Rogue will probably always be my ideal media depiction of Rogue.
Re: love triangles. Any teen drama is going to have them. At least Rogue/Scott is different. And the Wolverine/Jean angle wouldn’t work bc …gross. Evo Wolvie is like the Keeper of the Keys at Xavier’s. It’d be like Hermione making out with Hagrid.
RE: XTAS
It wasn't just Rogue screaming, Jean did a lot of that as well. It was annoying.
I think I internalized the XTAS Gambit/Jean cooking scene where they both annoy one another and that’s why I like them so much together.
Jean got done dirty, following in the footsteps of token female characters in the 80s shows that came before. Do you know how annoying it was as a child to pretend to be Cheetara and faint repeatedly while all my friends got to be Panthro and kick ass with nunchucks? Jean = New Cheetara. Her costume was also an abomination. But as a girl, take what you can get. Batman TAS was the superior show when it came to female characters. Cyke kinda got beat with the jerk-stick, setting up years of fans believing him to be a prissy stuck-up dick. If you’re going to hate him, hate him for leaving his wife and kid, cheating on his second wife, and having sex on her grave with Emma Frost. Wolverine wasn’t so much a rebel as just a freakin’ mean person. Seriously, so mean.
I think I internalized the XTAS Gambit/Jean cooking scene where they both annoy one another and that’s why I like them so much together.
What are they doing with him (& Rogue) now? :gambit:
To put the Rogue & Gambit mini plus Mr and Mrs X in a different perspective… it took fourteen issues to resolve all of Rogue’s various problems to at least try to make her palatable. The problem with the relationship was never Gambit. He was always pretty straightforward with his intentions towards Rogue with the exception of the very early issues of the X-Men 1991 series. He had every reason to leave the X-Men to protect himself, and instead stuck it out because he loved Rogue, who made him want to be a better person. He told her he loved her, he showed her he loved her, and at every turn was rejected or ignored. He had his spaz moments, mostly due to Rogue and her continuous rejections.
But.
He got better. She doubled down on being—herself.
So yes, the Thompson’s run is Rogue-focused not just because she is the author’s Mary Sue, but because it was Rogue’s fault. She was the reason for the angst and unhappiness.
It does irritate me though, that Thompson never had Rogue apologize. “I’m sorry for how I treated you, I made terrible choices and mistakes” would have gone a lot further for me than her excuses and explanations for her abominable behavior.
It just sucks that mr and mrs x had to end just as there was room to focus on Gambit's story.
Watching Rogue harp at Gambit in X-Men 2 made me cringe, not because it was wrong or annoyed me, but because I don't trust any of the current writers to portray them properly.. to Duggan's credit, this wasn't bad. Gambit was doing something fairly in character. I think it'd make more sense for him to be divorced from Excalibur completely for continuity sake, but this was fine as long as it doesn't become a running joke.
https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/deadpool-black-white-blood-2-preview-art (https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/deadpool-black-white-blood-2-preview-art)
Gambit spotted in Deadpool Black White and Blood #2.
Not interested in Gambit being anywhere near a Deadpool book.
I MISS seeing Gambit art .
I PREFERR his with out the cowel (head thing)
especially when not of his uniform. :gambit:
There is no new Gambit art in 2021 ?
https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/deadpool-black-white-blood-2-preview-art (https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/deadpool-black-white-blood-2-preview-art)
Gambit spotted in Deadpool Black White and Blood #2.
https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/deadpool-black-white-blood-2-preview-art (https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/deadpool-black-white-blood-2-preview-art)
Gambit spotted in Deadpool Black White and Blood #2.
Hickman is leaving X books after Inferno mini.
Hickman: So after Inferno, I'll be leaving to go work on my 'Next Big Marvel Thing™' and starting in January the X-Line will rocket forward starting with a weekly series that leads into the very cool, refocused, line of books. Yes, it's taken us a little while to get everything assembled correctly, but the end result — everything that's coming after Inferno — is going to be pretty great.
"So refocused line of X books will start from February or March with new #1.
have you peps heard anyhing about a post credit scene from Shang Chi that hints Gambit?
have you peps heard anyhing about a post credit scene from Shang Chi that hints Gambit?
There's nothing. Gambit is just one of the many names people are throwing around.
Just ideas if Claremont is really writing a 3 part Gambit story for Legends.
So what if it was a story in the past revealing that Gambit was really working for Sinister with a mission to destroy X-Men from within and would betray and fight Sinister and refuse to work with him at the end? [/color][/size]I would make it with time jumps and adding some canon existing moments that changed his motives. So the final battle would be after X-Men #45 with emotional impact on Gambit from a story with Rogue and Sinister cameo that soon Gambit must betray the X-Men.It can be done as a solo Gambit story without X-Men even finding out at the end about his bad motives before he chooses a side of good. Or maybe only Storm would know and keep it as his secret because he chose the right choice at the end.I would love that:)[/color]
[/size]https://screenrant.com/gambit-contest-champions-marvel-strongest-heroes-phoenix/amp/ (https://screenrant.com/gambit-contest-champions-marvel-strongest-heroes-phoenix/amp/)
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I don’t know what to make of this. “Marvel admitted he’s an A-List hero”? When? Like 20 years ago? This article makes it sound like they were forced to confess after a water-boarding session. ‘Admit it! Gambit is great! Or else you get the hose again!’
I don’t know what to make of this. “Marvel admitted he’s an A-List hero”? When? Like 20 years ago? This article makes it sound like they were forced to confess after a water-boarding session. ‘Admit it! Gambit is great! Or else you get the hose again!’It was written by Claremont, and he's always treated Gambit rather decently. This was the 1st time Claremont had written Gambit since his early 90's departure. Plus it was released at a time when Marvel editorial respected Gambit (Quesada wouldn't take over as EIC for another couple years).
I do not like the idea of Gambit in a Deadpool movie at all. Especially not for his first appearance. It's probably the last way I'd want it done.
Found it.
Claremont teases Gambit 4 on his IG.
(https://i.redd.it/zhljc1ctkbk71.jpg)
Could not agree more. I want Gambit to be part of the careful planning they are obviously putting into the X-Men reboot. I don't want him sidelined into a goofy Deadpool movie and introduced way before all the other X-Men. Plus, I am so done with the old Fox and Sony franchises. I want a completely clean slate for these characters. I am already bummed about the upcoming Spider-Man and Doctor Strange sequels. I loved the first two Holland Spidey movies and was really looking forward to the third until I started seeing all the rumors of the about Sony characters appearing. The recent trailer completely removed all my excitement for it, and I have never not looked forward to a MCU movie. And now the rumors are starting about the next Doctor Strange movie... sigh.
Reynolds and Tatum are friends. If Gambit to appear in D3 than he to be used as Domino or Cable in D2 and not as Shatterstar.
I think it would be cool but probably won't happen.
Yeah. All I got from that is maybe "Gambit #4"
I think he uses some shorthand symbols so that makes it harder to read.
i see:
gambit #4 outline 18 to 21
open @ riverboat on Matisse(?) poker high stakes table folk having fun
[then there is a drawing of a poker table]
counterpoint re: doc talking @ remy being away
remy top [indecipherable] at the bottom
cut to them [indeciperhable]
banks(?) medal(?) cloves(?) school's ok days to see(?) lol, wut?
why? next one, remy takes (talks?) to mob he [indeciperable]
solars(?) on trail
the last word i can read is "rules"
he spells 'remy' several times, using lowercase 'r'.
see, sometimes spending the day reading manuscripts from the early 1800s translates to real world applications. i've read a lot worse. haha.
I think it was planned as part of Legends at the beginning.
Maybe Legends sales made Marvel to change their mind because Gambit #1 by Claremont will sell better than Legends #10 by Claremont.
Claremont hates Hickman X-Men era. So it will be placed in past for sure.
Don, do you think that Claremont will use his treatment for Tatum's script as inspiration for Gambit comic?
I think he uses some shorthand symbols so that makes it harder to read.
i see:
gambit #4 outline 18 to 21
open @ riverboat on Matisse(?) poker high stakes table folk having fun
[then there is a drawing of a poker table]
counterpoint re: doc talking @ remy being away
remy top [indecipherable] at the bottom
cut to them [indeciperhable]
banks(?) medal(?) cloves(?) school's ok days to see(?) lol, wut?
why? next one, remy takes (talks?) to mob he [indeciperable]
solars(?) on trail
the last word i can read is "rules"
he spells 'remy' several times, using lowercase 'r'.
see, sometimes spending the day reading manuscripts from the early 1800s translates to real world applications. i've read a lot worse. haha.
Don't say sexy things like that to me. I don't like being excited unnecessarily. All jokes aside - I don't think that script is being thrown away entirely. I'd assume chunks of it will be used in the MCU and since the MCU routinely harvests their scripts from comics I wouldn't be surprised if they have Claremont adapt parts of it (seeing as he inspired parts of it) and use his story as something of a filter between the original Fox treatment and what will become the MCUs version.
Ahhah))
Yeah, I hope that part of scipt would be used in Claremont's story and later in MCU. But Claremont probably only wrote a treatment for it and never read a full script.
Damn, I would pay a lot to see Gambit so dangerous that enemies even afraid of slices of orange in his hands.
That moment in script was soooo good.
Nah nah nah, the bathroom fight scene!
2 new event books announced for January 2022.
X of lives of Wolverine and X of deathes of Wolverine.
Not a joke. I thought it was a joke first.
It will be a weekly series written by Percy like House of X and Powers of X.
So it seems that new #1 titles will start on March and April.
you can tell the hickman era is over if they're launching events that don't focus solely on magneto and emma frost. i'm actually glad for wolverine, he's done jack-crap for two years (something about fighting plant people). over-saturation has made me hate some of these characters sucking up all the oxygen of every book they're in.
the nice thing about solo titles is that they are easily ignored. not like crossover events which is just me committing to being confused for a couple months because i refuse to buy any other book except the one i want to buy. like, i still don't know what happened in messiah complex. or x-cutioner's song for that matter. you think i'm gonna buy x-force? screw that.
hopeful that if there is a gambit book it is taking place in the present. maybe these are his "plans" he mentioned in excalibur. if he's putzing about NYC as we saw in x-men, then he's not traipsing around krakoa. i did figure out it says "cut to them detonating bomb" in cc's script. unclear who "they" are, could be gambit and his companion. plus we have the deadpool issue coming out next week, and he's at a pool party. fun!
i think i finally figured out how to make sense of excalibur. just pretend gambit is brian braddock, rogue is meggan, jubliee/shogo combined are their creepily precocious elf baby. i can't explain rictor tho. his existence is still a mystery to me.
hopeful that if there is a gambit book it is taking place in the present. maybe these are his "plans" he mentioned in excalibur. if he's putzing about NYC as we saw in x-men, then he's not traipsing around krakoa. i did figure out it says "cut to them detonating bomb" in cc's script. unclear who "they" are, could be gambit and his companion. plus we have the deadpool issue coming out next week, and he's at a pool party. fun!
Not interested in this too.
Nothing about those titles interest me. Coming from a wolverine fan and die hard overall X-Men fan. We've seen this. How is that going to be interesting. I know what they thought. "Everyone likes Wolverine! Let's make a whole @$$ event around him! Yeah they'll buy that!"
Rumor has it that Hickman's era ended some time ago. They'd moved on and started developing their own ideas which how Hellfire Gala became a thing and why Planet Sized read like it existed all on its own (characters out of place, dressed differently, not referencing thing that just happened at the party etc). You can tell Hickman guided Duggan through the story and even what parts of X of Swords was his. I think it's obvious that whole event was reworked halfway through. The promo art had zero to do with what happened. They scrubbed entire solicit publishing schedules to make that work
Not interested in this too.
I think it will be similar to Days of Future Past movie. Wolverine`s mind will be sent in 10 alt Wolverine bodies from 10 Moira`s lives. One by one we will see how all X-Men and Wolverine will be killed in all 10 lives so at the end Logan will find a way how to stop death cycle and start Second Krakoa age.So I am sure that most X-Men will appear as alternative cameos but probably just to be killed in some brutal way for shocking moments.
I doubt it. It seems Hickman helped to create next Line of X books for near years.
Oh, no he was the Head of X and planned out EVERYTHING. But he just said in an interview that when it was time to move on (Im assuming some after X of Swords or before), the rest of the office was happy to stay in act 1 of the 3 that he planned. Several months ago on the same site in a different interview the current X-Men editor (Jordan White) said himself that they've "moved on" from Hickman's original plan. The X-Men writers want to stay in this era for the time being instead of evolving the story as Hickman stated. What we're seeing is Duggan, Ayala, Howard, Percy etc. sorta doing their own thing - which is why things seem disjointed and rutterless. They aren't telling the same narrative we started in HoX/PoX.
Gambit has a million and one cool story arcs to choose from, and this guest chooses the Foxx one?! Go on somewhere with that nonsense!
I can’t imagine anything more tedious than that.
“If people liked it with Moira, what would happen if we did it with Wolvie?” Don’t we have enough iterations of Logan?
This is a little tedious too:
https://anchor.fm/cerebrocast/episodes/Episode-049-Remy-LeBeau-feat--Chris-Robinson-e16o8kh (https://anchor.fm/cerebrocast/episodes/Episode-049-Remy-LeBeau-feat--Chris-Robinson-e16o8kh)
It has some moments.
Maybe not a solo-solo. Remy’s at his best as a mentor or friend. He needs someone to play off of. My favorite parts of the past stories was Gambit/Ororo, Gambit/Courier, Gambit/Fence, Gambit/X-23, Gambit/Wolvie. Also Gambit/Quicksilver because that was great. Just a whole page of them slapping one another in the face.
Gambit has a million and one cool story arcs to choose from, and this guest chooses the Foxx one?! Go on somewhere with that nonsense!
Remy needs a reason to put his skills to good use. Randomly showing up with a dumbass sidekick while wearing a beanie is not ideal.
LOL, that guy was so out of it, I think he might've been partaking of the aromatic herb during that interview.
The unbearable and super not-funny accent parts on behalf of the host aside, the idea of Gambit needing an author to come up with a Treatise on Remy LeBeau is food for thought.
Remy's motivations haven't been beyond being Rogue's loveseat (I decided he's no longer a coat rack, and he's moved past armchair, and has now graduated to loveseat/small sofa because he's so cosy). Otherwise, he's been showing up to a) steal stuff because he can or b) help friends when he can.
Anyone want to make a treatise on Gambit? A whole new world for Remy that moves beyond Guild/Rogue. What's his motivation? Who is his foil? Who is his buddy? What is his quest? What is the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
Comparing Gambit to Catwoman is apt. Before I fell in love with X-Men on Saturday morning there was Batman: The Animated Series after school. Loved Selina Kyle, I even named my cat Isis after her's on the show. I loved her motivation was stealing from rich people and corporations because they were destroying the environment and mean to animals. Remy needs a reason to put his skills to good use. Randomly showing up with a dumbass sidekick while wearing a beanie is not ideal.
You mean the sidekick wearing the black & white horizontal stripes with a mask who's about to steal you quarter pounder? Such stealth...
Thought we agreed to never talk about beanie-gate again... of was that just me? Clown pants, stupid beanie... helluva time for the cajun it was post-X-Factor.
Excalibur 23 is garbage.I loved completely The Deadpool: Black, White, and Blood #2. I wish that writer would do a Dedapool V Gambit vol 2. Really fun issue
YawnI can delete if you want me to do so. We don't have a 'delete' per say, its called 'remove'.
Edit: Sorry, this is what I thought in my head when reading the last few posts and without thinking, I posted it. I came back to delete it but couldn't figure out how.
I'm just not a fan of Deadpool and it all sounds very Deadpooly. At least it doesn't sound like it's mocking Gambit.
It is headcanon for me that Gambit was training that guy when Rogue found him. Or auditioning him for his International Guild.
"Time to go-go gigolo!" Hilarious. Wished he was that and more ....
I'm going to adopt this as well. It makes sense for his character to try to be a mentor to other young thieves, and otherwise invest his loyalty in people who do not deserve it.
All the nicknames... :smitten:
Gambit was in character, had a personality, had an appropriate reason for being there, sticks to his moral compass in the face of DP's wanton murdering, but also shows trust/camaraderie with the guy.
Or you can tune into Excalibur where Gambit, literally and figuratively, is not playing with a full deck.
Excalibur finally ends with #26 on December.Too long of a run, but good that the pain is over.
Hopefully 2022 will be a good year for us.
I would love Tatum as Gambit.
We had teen, old and female Loki this year. We can have different Gambits too.
We haven't seen a single mutant yet - and you're looking forward to time-variants? ;D
Yep:) And a lot of them in Deadpool 3.
Not talking about gag. FOX Xavier is rumored for Strange 2. He will be a variant for shure. Deadpool and maybe Cable with Domino probably all will be back as variants too in DP3.
Personally, I hope any inclusion from Fox's X-Men is limited. I'd really want to see a fresh start for the franchise - not a continuation of the mess that Dark Phoenix left behind.Agreed. That movie was pulled in ONE week, it was so bad and that was before COVID.
Saw a Catwoman comment before, got me thinking it's too bad Marvel & DC don't do crossovers anymore. With Gambit & Rogue married and Batman & Catwoman married, would a been a good opportunity for a new 4-issue mini-series. Some entity needs the best thieves for a heist and recruits Gambit & Catwoman, while Batman & Rogue team-up and go after them. The banter and flirting between Selina & Remy would have been priceless.
The Batmobile might make for interesting conversation ;D .
Played a little bit with Gambit 2012 covers.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1445388424345686022 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1445388424345686022)
Very nice, looks great. Awesome job!
Played a little bit with Gambit 2012 covers.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1445388424345686022 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1445388424345686022)
OH YEAH! Didn't Gambit steal it??? The plot thickens.
You're a gentleman, and a scholar
Very nice, looks great. Awesome job!
Purp your animated covers brought me joy and it was so sweet of Mr Asmus to reply. Class act!Thank you! Happy to hear that you liked :)
Anson Mount who played Black Bolt:
"If you give me my choice of Marvel characters, I think Black Bolt would have been number two, second only to Gambit. Gambit is just one of the coolest characters in the Marvel universe and obviously I'm partial to him because he's the Southern superhero. He's definitely not one of the more powerful characters if you line them all up facing each other [laughs].
But his wit and his ability to overcome such a dark past and then the far future reaches that Marvel has done with him in terms of the scope of his possible futures, it's just amazing. I think it's a really rich territory and even if it's not with me, I hope Marvel does something with Gambit. Now, I'm probably too old so, you know, there's some people out there that have been calling about Reed Richards, but I don't know. My dance card's a little full right now and so is theirs."
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Holy @#@$, he's a nerd like us. That was a surface take on a character most people wouldn't be able to make in passing. He speaks like one of us...
I just afraid that after relaunch Howard will hold Gambit again so she can torture us more. I am sure that she hates him for some reason and is trolling Gambit fans on purpose.
Page from garbage excalibur 24
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Is it just me, or has Tini been having a lot of characters refer to Gambit as "stupid" during her run?
Howard is working on Catwoman now. Y’know, cause she does such a good job writing thief capers and about married het couples.
Still no word on CCs Gambit project.
I think I've stated several times that I want this to be a present-day take - if for no other reason than get him away from all the current writers. But also to FINALLY explore his current role as Head of ITG/IAG.
But what do you guys want? Past, present? Random adventures? Established lore deep-dive?
Head of Guild stuff...I'd like a fresh take from a up-and-coming writer for this. Don't know if I care too much about political aspects of the job, but he could go around as an enforcer, taking out the bad actors in the Guild. He just needs a foil to join him. And a cat-sitter.
When you pick it up, can you please take a sharpie marker and draw him some dang irises? Driving me crazy.
Someone told me: ‘boy, the writing [on Excalibur] must be bad if you’ve turned on the cats.” It is, it really is.
It does sound like he is at least interested in playing in the current continuity. Not Krakoa, but Krakoa adjacent.
Hey Purp, andrei and anyone else who visits here that is an artist. There is an author on Twitter Stephanie Cooke - looking for an artist. She wants a portfolio sent with sequential art. You know, storyboard type stuff.
It appears to be a children's book, so no smut.
I know this isn't the right thread but didn't want to make one either as by the time this is seen, she may have already hired someone.
https://twitter.com/hellocookie (https://twitter.com/hellocookie)
And now back to this thread. I'll start a 2022 late in December of 2021.
Marvel editors teased a new book Immortal X-Men. Not sure if Yu art is for this book.
i love remy's sketchy look in yu's hands.
sad it's a cover (lies, all lies), and that Gambit is still wearing his Excalibur look. Probably token representation for Excalibur line, since we also have Kitty (Marauders), Cyke (X-Men), what looks like Domino (X-Force).
i like the hooded coat look from excalibur. but i thought his outfit showed up magically or something...? not that i'm asking anyone to explain to me howard's writing. i know it's just random nonsense that keeps happening.
We can't get a Gambit project (TV/Streaming/Movie) off the ground no matter how much Tatum Channing pushed but yet ..... he's announced another Magic Mike film. bleh. Having watched two of these films, I can't care.
Is Gambit in anything after the new year?
I saw that Gambit / Rogue cameo in Trial in Magneto #4, which has me very worried. Those two panels were so utterly pointless (Gambit & Rogue walk in with margaritas in-hand, say "whoa, a battle with monsters, guess we should join," and end their scene). I'm worried they're making him somehow connected to Wanda's killer, a brief tie-in to the big revelation in issue 5. We did see Gambit, Wolverine, Jean and Polaris on Hickman's Inferno cover, all unconscious or worse as well...still don't know what that's about.
Trial of Magneto stopped making sense after issue #2. I liked issue one and two, but then three was like: WHAT??? #4 only added to the nonsense. Gambit and Rogue's appearance, I think, was to answer the question of: Why are all the newly-elected X-Men here BUT Rogue?
Answer: Because she and Gambit were double fisting cocktails while shopping. Which, if we're following some kind of timeline, takes place immediately after the Gala(?). So Rogue got elected to the X-Men and the first thing she thought was REMY, GIT IN THE CAR. WE'RE GOIN' SHOPPIN'!
I want to know where Quicksilver disappeared to? Wanda's brother! He got his butt looked at by Northstar back in issue two and then - gone.
It seems that Knight of X will be just a new name for Excalibur.
I just hope that Howard is not writing him anymore but ready for the worst.
Unfortunately it looks like their keeping the stupid hood-thing and his staff is still made of wood...
Immortal X-Men is not in the cards for Gambit. IXM will be written by Gillen, so at least it'll be entertaining.
Ugh, this image implies Magneto as the Christ figure. Gross. Like we haven't seen him portrayed as God and the Virgin Mary already.
https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/immortal-x-men-kieron-gillen-lucas-werneck-full-announcement (https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/immortal-x-men-kieron-gillen-lucas-werneck-full-announcement)
Nothing to do with Gambit other than he has cats.
And to tease Don.
If Gambit ends up in Knights of X, I insist we all call it Kox. Not an acronym. K-o-x, but actually pronounce it as ‘Kox.’
Then we can say: “did you hear, Kox out this week!” “Did you see solicits for Kox?” “Kox just isn’t doing it for me lately.” Or “gosh, I am so excited for Kox! I can’t wait for more Kox!”
I think the best case scenario is Williams writing this book, really, unless it’s an entirely different writer altogether we haven’t heard of or had hinted at. I don’t mind her dialogue because she actually writes a team book and everyone has something to say. compare that to X-Men, which is basically a Larraz coffee table book of beautiful pictures and Duggan occasionally throwing in a word bubble per page. Takes less than 2 minutes to “read” XMen. At least Williams isn’t Hickman, who drowns you in plot points so confusing you need a diagram to figure out what just happened. And then he literally gives you a diagram. Howard tosses up word salad while the characters do inexplicable things. I’ll take the Claremontian style dialogue bubbles where we actually know what the characters are thinking, feeling, and WHY they are doing the things they do.
Nothing to do with Gambit other than he has cats.
And to tease Don.
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Remy cher, is dat you? From X-Men #6, maybe? Pepe? Can anyone confirm?
the only thing gambit did in today's excalibur is to ask where his cats were at.
everyone else stood around and told betsy she was great or talked about how great she is.
and fall.. He did a lot of falling, too. Cant forget that. One of the most agile X-Men characters there is... falling, sliding, and being an idiot.
The art isn't very good either. IMO
to be fair...all the characters suck. they are the absolute worst versions of themselves.
let's look at the award-recipients for this year:
jubilee - worstest mom award
rictor - whiniest babyman award
gambit - stupidest himbo award
betsy - entitled self-absorbed b!tch award
honorable mentions:
jamie - conveniently useless award
bird-lady - who are you and why are you even here award
shatterstar - [email protected] award
congrats to all our losers! and on a special note, Gambit was the proud recipient of the [email protected] award last year, so him falling out of the stupid tree and hitting every branch on the way down is actually an improvement! Good for him.
Too cartoon-y. Everyone looks like they are 14-yr olds, even if they are given proper features. Laziness.
That will actually get me to buy a comic book again! Great news.
Howard set the bar so low, it’s mesospheric. There’s no where to go but up. Bring on the Claremontian word bubbles and reassure me Gambit once spoke in complete sentences.
“The Gambit Train runs on Gambit power” still haunts me. Will buy it this series. Will not buy another ‘Betsy and The Others’ book.
I'm not crazy about the cover art but this Sid-guy is dope. Has a very Jim Lee / Micheal Turner. Looking forward to see this project come to fruition. Probably the only thing outside of X-Men Red, Immortal X-Men and Legion of X that I'm looking forward to. Yes... I'm looking forward to Immortal X-Men.
Great news. I didn’t find anything about it being a mini, though, which is even better.I don't think I'll do hard copies anymore. I need to get rid of half my collection as it is. Takes up too much space.
Me too. I haven’t bought comics in so long.
Homie your detail and shading is getting so much better. I love what you did with his face.
yeah, the grayscale and halftone, [email protected] love it. also the Bang you dead nod. Not enough heart eyes for this. :smitten:
I'm sorry. I know I am VERY late on this and maybe this is a little off-topic. But I just watched GOTG... Did James Gunn actually talk s*** about Gambit, and then turn around, steal his origin story and give a watered-down version to his Peter Quill?! Did that actually happen or is it just my imagination?!
The hating is real. It's like they all know Gambit is a great character, but don't want to admit it for some weird reason.
Yep. He is a Gambit hater. He also loves Fantomex XD
I'm sorry. I know I am VERY late on this and maybe this is a little off-topic. But I just watched GOTG... Did James Gunn actually talk s*** about Gambit, and then turn around, steal his origin story and give a watered-down version to his Peter Quill?! Did that actually happen or is it just my imagination?!
The hating is real. It's like they all know Gambit is a great character, but don't want to admit it for some weird reason.
Really doesn't make sense. Fans of Fantomex should by proxy love Gambit. He's a shameless copy. Trenchcoat-wearing, french speaking, french named, "super spy", agile, marksmen, "ladiesman" member of the X-Men. If that ain't a carbon-copy - I don't know what is
I'm sorry. I know I am VERY late on this and maybe this is a little off-topic. But I just watched GOTG... Did James Gunn actually talk s*** about Gambit, and then turn around, steal his origin story and give a watered-down version to his Peter Quill?! Did that actually happen or is it just my imagination?!
The hating is real. It's like they all know Gambit is a great character, but don't want to admit it for some weird reason.
This is all but good news to me! Cuz I also think his works sux hard balls to death... and the fact he doesnt like Gambit doesnt have a thing to do with the char itself, but with his lack of talent