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Iceman - The Dragon Mythos
« on: May 02, 2024, 03:30:55 AM »
Sharing this because I know there are some other fans of Iceman here that may have interest in his Dragon Mythos, an analogue to the Phoenix Mythos.

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Recent events in the comics have brought renewed interest to the Dragon Mythos, companion to the Phoenix Mythos, and sent the chronicling of its story roaring back to life! Now with all preexisting material revised and a MASSIVE UPDATE that includes a TON of new material!

Learn:

    How the Dragon Mythos got its start as a fan theory in the 1970's!
    How Chris Claremont's plans to use the shadow-side of Kabbalah as an adversary for Jean/Phoenix and the X-Men came to cast a defining shadow across the nascent Dragon Mythos!
    How J. M. DeMatteis began to lay the foundation for the Dragon Mythos in the 1984 Iceman mini-series(and how it would lead to then-X-editor Louise Jones(Simonson) later adding her own significant contributions to the Mythos).
    What sits opposite the White Hot Room on the Kabbalistic Tree of Life and Death, why Tiferet/Tiphereth is a 'White Hot' Room and what opposing 'Power' balances the Phoenix Force!
    How Kieron Gillen drew directly from the Zohar, the textual foundation of Kabbalah, to craft the scene with 'Apocalypse' in Immortal X-Men!
    Which Sefirot and Qliphoth are now revealed as established Marvel Comics Universe realms!
    Why Iceman had to actually be erased from existence to complete his journey into becoming the Dragon!

New additions now include material from the recent Resurrection of Magneto mini-series, and even more annotations for the 1984 Iceman mini-series!

All that and much, much more!

2024 marks not only the fortieth anniversary of the historic 1984 Iceman mini-series that started Iceman's journey to becoming the Dragon on the printed page, but it is also literally the Chinese Year of the Dragon! All the pieces are in place for a story that is decades in the making!

In the recent final issues of Immortal X-Men, the White Hot Room saw fit to warn the mutants of a coming threat that is in some way akin to Satan! Are they ready!?

Are you?!

Prepare yourselves for the arrival of the ultimate supernatural threat, as two old friends with opposing destinies see their entwined fates... at last... collide!

The Dragon Mythos

(Part Two is coming soon!)

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Re: Iceman - The Dragon Mythos
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2024, 10:16:37 PM »
While I am learning the Dragon Mythos, it sounds interesting. Would it make Iceman an IceDragon? As much as I love dragons, I only know what info you posted. :)
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Re: Iceman - The Dragon Mythos
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2024, 11:08:12 AM »
While I am learning the Dragon Mythos, it sounds interesting. Would it make Iceman an IceDragon? As much as I love dragons, I only know what info you posted. :)
Sorry I took so long to respond, I've been quite busy.

Well, he has adopted the form of an icedragon back when he ate Thor...


The Dragon Mythos is my magnum opus for Iceman, a culmination of arcane knowledge and esoterica I have cultivated for decades.

I've talked about it piecemeal off-and-on over the years but never put it all together or done it so comprehensively. With some of the setup recently in the final issues of Immortal X-Men, the last Jean Grey mini-series and Resurrection of Magneto...it looks like Marvel is FINALLY going to go all the way with making OG Iceman the Dragon.

Yes, I'm talking about the REAL Iceman coming back in a story literally decades in the making. I'm hoping it happens in the final issue of X-Men Forever out next week, but I can wait a little longer...

I'm working on part two now, but I would love to hear your thoughts on what I have so far, either here or at ABP. I keep hoping the Profezzor will post his thoughts there, he expressed interest in The Dragon Mythos back when I started it, but has stayed mum since my massive update. I know he's read it, but he wont tell me what he thinks even in PM, which I guess means he doesn't like it.

I know CC008 was interested in it a few years back, but it's been a couple of years since I've seen him posting anywhere. The only people talking about it on ABP are me and Whitecrown(a Jean fan that also likes Bobby). t would be great to get some kind of a discussion going there but when people read it the most common reaction is 'interesting' or just silence.

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Re: Iceman - The Dragon Mythos
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2024, 10:17:04 AM »
Yes, I'm talking about the REAL Iceman coming back in a story literally decades in the making. I'm hoping it happens in the final issue of X-Men Forever out next week, but I can wait a little longer...

No such luck.  :(

 But there is this:

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https://aiptcomics.com/2024/05/06/x-men-monday-tom-brevoort-from-the-ashes/

AIPT: So, when sorting through X-Fans’ questions, I picked up on some concerns over their favorite characters not appearing in any promotional images. I’m going to list some characters and you tell me… whatever you can tell me!

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AIPT: OK, how about Iceman?

Tom: Iceman, yes.
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AIPT: OK, Tom — final question. Six months into the “From the Ashes” era… what three X-Men characters will X-Fans be talking about?

Tom: Wow. That’s a good question.

I’m pulling up my master chart here. For the sake of argument, rather than starting in May, let’s say from June. So that pretty much puts us around December. Let’s see… who do I have on my little chart and who can I point to?

I think we’ll definitely be talking about Inmate X.

I think we’ll definitely be talking about Iceman.

And I think of all people… again, this is probably more of a tease than it’s worth, but what the hell… we’ll talk a little bit about Stevie Hunter.

It's interesting not only because of the Iceman mentions, but the context. He went into some detail on most of the other characters...but for Iceman, 'whatever you can tell me' apparently wasn't much.

And again, Inmate X people are already talking about and have been for some time, which suggests whatever is happening with Iceman is comparably BIG.

Whatever is coming, I don't think it's going to be simply another power feat or even him leading a team like X-Factor. Could it be, at last, the D-----!? ;)

Fingers crossed! (Toes too!)

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Re: Iceman - The Dragon Mythos
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2024, 03:06:21 AM »
https://abetterplace.boards.net/

The Iceman site forum. I don't have a links page anymore but will give Ice's site our fan love. I'll work out the rest.